" Bush wrecked the economy with corrupt crony capitalism and Wall Street greed, and trashed the Constitution with his war crimes and torture. Now Obama is trying to pick up the pieces while know-nothings scream "socialism!" at him. "

" Steve, the democrats are hardly alone in driving for a one world Govt. I've heard both party leaders refer to it. They are relying on us to keep in fighting while they run away with our sovereignty and give it to the UN for handling. I apprciate your worry about Obama's drive for what seems like socialism but you've got to remember that it was Bush that wanted and authorized the first bank bail out. "

" But if God is God, as most of us in America believe He is and as our founding fathers believed then He is fully aware and in control of the program you have just described. He has informed us beforehand of this scenario and that is a testimony to the truth of Gods Holy Bible and the truth is continuously being revealed through the fulfillment of its prophecies that are currently progressing at an escalating rate. The secular progressives are falling right into the overall plan of false messiahs as revealed by God. When the Messiah Jesus sits on the One-World-Government throne it will be according to Gods plan and He will rule the nations with a rod of iron. There is no righteousness or justice in Marxism and the world is a witness of that, but of the throne of Jesus Christ God says, Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne; Mercy and truth go before Your face. Psalm 89:14 "

" Becky, there is a lot of truth in what you said. I am not defending Bush he disappointed me in many ways but not in every way, but do you ever recall him being called or viewed as the messiah? "

" WHAT?.....no comments about godless muslims?

and Stevie.....if your children are missing, you need to call the authorities.

and you're telling me your culture has changed? how is your home life affected? do you now speak another language? have to dress differently? are you told what church to attend (or boycott)? did they take your TV remote? are your cars gone?.....just how has your culture changed?

and finally, as far as i know, your elected officials haven't resigned, or been forced into gulags....

what a load!!!!..........LMAO!!! "

" The writer also seems to have missed that it was Bush's No Child Left Behind law that forced teachers to "teach to the test". But I doubt that this person would be concerned with accuracy or honesty. "

" I love the part about testing school children. Here's the facts as I know them. Bush's "No Child Left Behind" should have been named "No Large Testing Corporation Left Behind" because most of the money went to his brother's large testing corporation, not educating children. What makes it even funnier is that public schools in every state were already testing (have been for years), but the legislation forced schools across the nation to dump their tests and use the ones his brother's firm created instead of the ones they were using. What makes it even funnier is that Bush did the same thing for his brother's company while governor of Texas. Funnier still is that after half of the Texas school children failed the test, it was "dumbed down" so Bush could later claim that "test scores had improved significantlY" while he was in charge.

Bush's presidency exhibited all the signs of Fascism, including the most important requirement of letting corporations run the government for their own welfare at the expense of the people and the Good of the Whole. When government is run for the welfare of the few at the expense of the many, most people suffer. "

" Bush Raided the Treasury, when we had a Surplus of money, 2001, and gave it out to the rich, and the privileged. Then spent 2 billlion a year on Iraq, as a personal vendetta to make his Daddy proud.

Now you Lush Limbaughs cry foul.... "

" I totally forgot about that info Bernie. Thanks for reminding us. "

" No Jon I haven't but the only ones who've I've heard call Obama "the messiah" is the GOPs. I've never heard the Dems call him that. Until we get it through our heads that BOTH parties are corrupted and BOTH parties have lead this nation to where we are now nothing will ever change. I honestly feel that most of the GOP really aren't as strong a Christian as they claim to be or they wouldn't be selling us all down the river for lobbyist/corporate greed. I feel that they talk a good game and try to keep the Christian right all hyped up on things that they could care less about like abortion and they have no intentions of doing anything about it. If they wanted abortions banned again, they would have done it when they had control of the legislature and White House. If they did ban it, they couldn't whip everybody up in a frenzy to proove what good Christians they are to get you all to vote for them on just that one issue alone. You are being duped just like many on the left are being duped on many other issues like public option insurance. It's time we quit our in fighting between us, quit blaming each other for DC's actions and start pointing our fingers directly at them and blame the true culprits. Not each other. "

" Bernie wrote on Nov 16, 2009 11:33 AM:
" I love the part about testing school children.

I would just like to point out that although you are blaming No Child Left Behind on Bush it was actually Ted Kennedy that pushed it though the Senate and it received overwhelming bipartisan support in Congress. It was nothing like the Hate Crimes Bill that had to be sneaked through by attaching it to defense spending. Fascism, not in any sense of the word! "

" Good letter, Steve. Keep it up. "

" I'm not surprised that reverend Jon is against any sort of hate crime bills. "

" Good post Becky again I agree with almost everything. I am wondering about the GOPs calling Obama messiah though. I have referred to him as the messiah or your messiah but my intent was as a way of scorning those who do seem to think that he is. I certainly do not think he is messiah and if there is any Republican that does I would really like to know who it is. I think what you have heard from GOPs is it being used in the same context that I have because there are those on the left that think he is the savior of the world. Those left leaning radicals would not use the word messiah but that is how they view him. I agree some Republicans have tried to use Christianity as a means of gaining votes. Some Republicans I believe are Christians and some are not. A lot of people do not understand that just saying you are a Christian does not make you one. And also critics of Christianity often try to paint someone evil as a Christian just to throw a bad light on Christianity. Is it any worse to use Christianity to appeal to the Christian base than it is for those who hate Christianity to use that hate to gain votes? Supporting the advancement of homosexuals and abortion is hating Christianity. Supporting the Hate Bill was a vote against Christianity because we all know that the Hate Crimes Bill is aimed at Christians who speak out with what the Christian Bible says about homosexuals and abortion. Anyone running on the platform of what a good Christian he is probably is not really a Christian. There seems to be a viewpoint by the left radicals especially in the mainstream media that any politician that declares any Christian values is automatically unfit and disqualified and that is unacceptable for our nation that was founded upon Christian principles by founders who were predominately Christians.

Question for you Becky: who are the true culprits you mentioned we should point our fingers at? "

" i cannot agree more. the new deal has proven to be the undoing of the incentive to improve oneself and become the means by which the federal government has grown far beyond its intended role. the state/local/federal tax revenues ae so far out of constitutional balance that cities simply cannot survive wihout fewer local dollars going to washington "

" Jon, it IS the right-wing nut jobs that keep referring to our President as "the Messiah". You justify it because it's what you think we think? Wow, the audacity of hope...oh wait, I mean of ignorance. You have no idea what I think - and honestly, Obama is no more my savior than the tooth fairy. I believe in his honor, his courage, his determination, his intellect and his wisdom to pull this country out of the slop that Bush left behind (they should've named that law, "No President Left Behind" and Bush wouldn't have met AYP!).

As for the founding father's christianity, I'm SURE you must be referring to the greatly revered Thomas Jefferson? He evidently is rolling over in his grave a lot lately according to the Faux No-News sources. Well, perhaps someone should inform y'all that Jefferson thought he was so uppity he could re-write the New Testament to suit his own purpose? None of this divinity crap - or raising from the dead...or virgin birth, etc. He took all of that out. Certified wacko, and he's just one of our founding fathers! He called his book,"Life and Morals". Kinda reminds me of Republicans - taking accurate testimony and twisting it in a way that suits them and claiming it to be gospel! "

" Who's the bigger communist, Chairman Mao or Chairman Oba-Mao?

You make the call! "

" Jon Vanatta wrote on Nov 16, 2009 6:48 PM:
" Good post Becky again I agree with almost everything. I am wondering about the GOPs calling Obama messiah though.
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Jon and Becky- the use of the Messiah label for Obama has come up on this site several times.

It happens almost always the same way.

An Uber-Liberal challenges a conservative poster with the made up by the GOP variant, usually to slip a good thread from a topic or point with misdirection to something meaningless.

Using the term is a good political point since so many of his supporters have shown such adoration towards this man from the very beginning of his reign.

Here is a simple list of just a few of the lefts implication of Obama being their messiah (from a previous post):
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shumphreys wrote on Sep 11, 2009 4:27 PM:
" Just Wondering you and your brethren are the ones that called Obama the Messiah, I never heard any liberal use that term. Far too religious for a good liberals tastes. You seem to confuse legitimate criticism with illegitimate attacks. I haven't heard any liberal object to legitimate criticism. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the concept of legitimate? "
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A sampling of those who arent noted as being conservatives for your perusal:

Oprah-
Barack Obama rally in Des Moines, Iowa-
"I am here to tell you, Iowa, he is the one. He is the one!"


Oct 10, 2008 ... Louis Farrakhan calls Obama 'The Messiah'

Chris Matthews: "It's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg.

Ive never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament.

Time's Nancy Gibbs in the magazine's Nov. 17, 2008 cover story:

"Some princes are born in palaces," wrote Gibbs. "Some are born in mangers. But a few are born in the imagination, out of scraps of history and hope."

Of course the ultimate one is the photo from the OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE BLOG photo of Obama be portrayed with a halo around his head

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Photostream-Business-and-Pleasure-in-August/

Short link: http://tinyurl.com/motpvo "

" "Question for you Becky: who are the true culprits you mentioned we should point our fingers at?"

Anyone who strives for a one world govt which is "leaders" from BOTH parties. Obama promised to stop the wars immediately, stop the whittling away of our Constitution and resume the rule of law. He hasn't done any of that. Anyone in DC who will not do a REAL investigation of 9-11 because their story doesn't reflect not just the facts, but ANY fact of physics and common sense. So, Jon, you tell me. Who in DC isn't crooked and looking after his own skin? "

" "Supporting the advancement of homosexuals and abortion is hating Christianity." According to your reasoning Mr.Vanatta supporting the rights of others to practice their religion or no religion is also hating Christianity. REAL Christians Mr. Vanatta support the rights of ALL people, homosexuals and heterosexuals, those that choose to get an abortion and those that don't, those that believe in a God and those that don't. You are the one who has followed a false Messiah and will find and are now left behind. "

" Oh and Mr. Vanatta REAL Liberals don't think Obama is the Messiah, because they don't believe in the concept of a Messiah because they have no need for one. Only fools like you are looking for something out there (a Messiah) that will never come. "

" It amazes me. Liberals been working hard for decades to brain wash people -- yet Steve, along with a few others on this site, --some how managed to survive their attacks. How'd that happen. Steve says,

"Progressive liberals have for decades been engaged in the decomposition of American culture that progressively teaches school-children at a younger and younger age to believe in a demythologized American history by demonizing the founding spirit that was in fact deliberately informed by the Judeo-Christian worldview."

I don't know how old Steve is, but I'm betting he was one of those KIDS -- yet he managed to escape those awful liberals. He should tell us how he did that.

What? You say you used your BRAIN and made up your OWN MIND as to what is true and what is not. WOW! I'm impressed. "

" Jon, here's just one example of BOTH parties taking, well basically, bribes from big companies:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/us/politics/15health.html?_r=3

Genentech, a subsidiary of the Swiss drug giant Roche, estimates that 42 House members picked up some of its talking points 22 Republicans and 20 Democrats, an unusual bipartisan coup for lobbyists. "

" Becky asked, So, Jon, you tell me. Who in DC isn't crooked and looking after his own skin?

You know Becky there are a few but there would be very few wouldnt there. It seems to me about 7 Democrats and maybe just a few more Republicans but I am not making a name list right now. We need a turn over! I hope and pray to get it in the 2010 elections, there certainly is plenty of incentive for a turn over on both sides of the isle. This president needs to receive a message if he can come down off his pedestal long enough to even see it, Or stay home long enough to see it. He needs to understand he was not elected by Americans to be president of the world and he needs to quit bowing to whom he conceives as royalty especially to a nation that sneak attacked us and that we gave back their sovereignty. Can you imagine Douglas McArthur bowing to the emperor of Japan? I fully realize that most on here are not old enough to remember WWII. "

" Jon, I'm glad you have removed the rose colored glasses and yes, there are a few good people too on both sides. As far as Obama's bow, Nixon bowed, Reagan bowed and bush held the leader of Saudi Arabia's hand and kissed him on the lips. It's called interacting with other cultures and respecting their way of living. Sometimes we American's feel that our way is the only way and to do it any other way is wrong when it's not, it's just different. "

" Obama is destroying this country. I am afraid it will be a shell of what it was when he took office. "

" THIS IS A SHOUT OUT FOR HELP!!!!!!!

I'm trying to figure what I want to give out as CHRISTMAS presents this year...

I'm leaning toward CHAIRMAN OBA-MAO t-shirts or OBAMA CONDOMS.

Should I go with the t-shirts or the condoms?

I dunno....but I'm thinking I'll go with the condoms because...

'HOPE' IS NOT A FORM OF PROTECTION and condoms are THE ULTIMATE in STIMULUS PACKAGES! "

" NeoCon Academician

You are shouting in the Library, go sit in the corner for 30 minutes. "

" NeoCon Academician--

Try writing some original jokes. We might pay more attention. "

" Becky, inform me more of who Reagan and Nixon bowed to. As for Bush I do not have to defend him, I voted for him and if the election were again with Bush against the same man I would vote for Bush again. A bow is symbolic of submission and not appropriate protocol for the POTUS. If Reagan and Nixon bowed to a head of another country that was wrong and does not make it appropriate for Obama. "

" ....needs to understand he was not elected by Americans to be president of the world and he needs to quit bowing to whom he conceives as royalty especially to a nation that sneak attacked us and that we gave back their sovereignty. Can you imagine Douglas McArthur bowing to the emperor of Japan? I fully realize that most on here are not old enough to remember WWII. "

Jon, you don't know much about history, do you? Your lack of knowledge of presidential events is almost as appealing as your lack of understanding modern science.

Have you seen the pictures of Nixon bowing to the Japanese emperor (who was at the helm when Pearl Harbor was attacked)? Or how about Bush Jr holding hands and kissing the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia on the cheek. What about the pictures of Eisenhower bowing to Charles de Gaulle? Of course Fox news isn't showing any of those pictures, so perhaps you're unaware that that happened. Fox is busy criticising Obama for doing the same thing his Republican predecessors did, and that was showing respect to foreign dignitaries. "

" " NeoCon Academician--

Try writing some original jokes. We might pay more attention. "
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You felt the need to comment...so it seems as though you were paying more attention... "

" " NeoCon Academician

You are shouting in the Library, go sit in the corner for 30 minutes. "
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WHAT? IF YOU TAKE THE BEER BOTTLE OUT OF YOUR MOUTH MAYBE I COULD HEAR YOU.... "

" Obama bowed! Obama gave a "terrorist fist bump!" The first lady has bare arms! Obama uses fancy mustard!
Listen to yourselves. You right wingers are laughable in your insane, ranting foolishness. You seem to have become completely unhinged. "

" Nixon did not bow to Hirohito! I looked at the picture it is nothing like a bow, Hirohito was short and Nixon looked down on him.

Obama bowed from the waist!

Reagan did not bow to anyone except Nancy.

That is only a nod of the head Eisenhower made to De Gaulle! De Gaulle should have been on his knees licking Ikes boots.

Leftist liberal attempts to make something out of nothing. Go back to your crib and cry all night about your runaway wimp messiah you are trying to defend! LOL at those bowing pictures.

When a man stands before congress and before the American people in a nationally televised address and says health care will not cover illegal aliens, and then it does and when he says there will be no federally funded abortions and he takes it out just for the House vote and then wants to add it back in for the Senate and when he conducted his whole campaign saying his would be a transparent administration and it turns out to be the most secretive partisan administration ever and when he surrounds himself with tax cheats, Chicago thugs, terrorist bombers, Mao admirers, Marxists, Communists, and Islamic terrorists, when he gleefully signs a hate crimes bill that could only be passed by sneaking it through as an attachment to funding for our brave men and women fighting overseas, then I have absolutely no respect for him.


I do not defend Bush, why are you trying to defend Obama?

Harry Potter you would do better to stop dwelling on your revised history and wake up to what is going on in the present and how it will affect our grandchildren. "

" Jon Vanatta wrote on Nov 17, 2009 6:32 PM:

" Nixon did not bow to Hirohito! I looked at the picture it is nothing like a bow, Hirohito was short and Nixon looked down on him.

Yeah right Jon, and you think rock formations look like dinosaurs. lol!

I'll say this for you Jon, you have quite an imagination. "

" Obama bowed! Obama gave a "terrorist fist bump!" The first lady has bare arms! Obama uses fancy mustard!
Listen to yourselves.
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Yup! It won't be long til Chairman Oba-Mao don's his red hammer and sickle barret... "

" joe hardy wrote on Nov 17, 2009 3:09 PM:
" Obama is destroying this country. I am afraid it will be a shell of what it was when he took office. """""



you can get passports at the post office "

" NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 17, 2009 9:02 PM:
"Yup! It won't be long til Chairman Oba-Mao don's his red hammer and sickle barret"""""



Comrades HP and TQ, there will be a meeting at the Gulag Saturday night to review our invasion tactics.... "

" The Question wrote on Nov 17, 2009 6:30 PM:
" Obama bowed! Obama gave a "terrorist fist bump!" The first lady has bare arms! Obama uses fancy mustard!
Listen to yourselves. You right wingers are laughable in your insane, ranting foolishness. You seem to have become completely unhinged. """"""


to them "unhinged" is acceptable. murderous is acceptable. lying is acceptable. all insanity..... "

" Jon Vanatta wrote on Nov 17, 2009 3:59 PM:
"If Reagan and Nixon bowed to a head of another country that was wrong and does not make it appropriate for Obama."""""



and just as inappropriate for any american to bow in prayer. "

" Sarah Palin is collecting the income for a bestselling book with her name on it that she did not write and may not have even read. She was handed a state governorship that she threw away when it bored her. She was handed a vice presidential nomination that she refused to prepare for, thereby embarrassing herself and this nation in a spectacular fashion. Now she's busy whining about a cheesecake magazine photo that SHE happily posed for. Poor, poor widdle Sarah.
Palin has never earned any of the many rewards that have been showered upon her. She is NOT a victim and has NEVER been a victim. Whatever the opposite of a victim is, she's that. "

" The Question wrote on Nov 18, 2009 3:38 PM:
"Whatever the opposite of a victim is, she's that."""""


she the breathing definition of "political prostitution". "

" Comrades HP and TQ, there will be a meeting at the Gulag Saturday night to review our invasion tactics.... "

Count me in, fb. Don't forget your little red book. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 18, 2009 4:35 PM:
" Comrades HP and TQ, there will be a meeting at the Gulag Saturday night to review our invasion tactics.... "

Count me in, fb. Don't forget your little red book. "
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Strange, it has always been the opposition who was sent to the Gulag and the party elite were at the politburo.

But how did you get a red one?

I would have thought it would be the standard little blue pocket Obama book of earth shattering quotes.

http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Obama-Editors-History-Company/dp/0978736842 "

" I see Sarah Palin is banning the press from her speeches now. I guess she doesn't want to get any of those tough gotcha type question, you know like what books have you read lately.

The funny part about that is that the McCain camp is saying she was told to prepare for that question. Who knows, perhaps she was too busy outfitting her drooling tribe with RNC money when she should have been preparing for the interview. "

" Obama and Holder intend to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in NYC on American soil.

In doing this Mohammed, a non-uniformed, foreign battlefield captured, foreign country held combatant, will be given the rights of an American citizen. An action like this, by Obama and Holder, has NEVER before occurred.

The implication of this occurrence is collossal and I can't believe none of the media spinmeisters have acknowledged the main devastating implication.

Upon the commencement of Sheikh Mohammed's trial, any of America's enemies, whether dressed as civilian dressed terrorists or a CIVILIAN DRESSED FOREIGN NATIONAL SOLDIERS, will have the 'right' to do as much damage as possible to our military or our civilian society, then thrown down their arms in front of an American soldier and demand to be read their Miranda rights for trial in an American civilian court!

Just image if China, with an army of 200 million, decided to go to war with America on foreign soil and had all of their soldiers dresses as civilians.

We wouldn't have enough soldier-police officiers available to read the civilian dressed enemy soldiers their rights, let alone have enough courts to try these civilian dressed soldiers in!

Our civilian court system, already overloaded for civil and criminal litigations, would shutdown. Our enemies would win by default.

And you folks put Obama in office... "

" Its obvious that both parties have great shortcomings.Greed,lust, and power corrupt them when they have been in office too long.
The parties have both good people in them and bad people in them.
Neither should cater to the lobbyists. And members of Congress and the Senate should never get automatic raises. They should not get raises until our country comes out of this recession. Where you or I might get a nickle,dime or quarter raise, they get thousands of dollars a year. And all the benefits!I signed a petition that if government health care is passed, they have to be forced to take it too. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 18, 2009 6:18 PM:
" I see Sarah Palin is banning the press from her speeches now. I guess she doesn't want to get any of those tough gotcha type question, you know like what books have you read lately.

The funny part about that is that the McCain camp is saying she was told to prepare for that question. Who knows, perhaps she was too busy outfitting her drooling tribe with RNC money when she should have been preparing for the interview. "

Kind of sounds like Durbin banning everyone but the press doesn't it. "

" Kind of sounds like Durbin banning everyone but the press doesn't it. "

I wonder if she will follow the Bush model of having invited audiences only, jr? And if any one else gets past security wearing a anti Palin shirt, will they be arrested, like some did at Bush's speeches? "

" My cat just stepped on my computer and I don't know if my the post I started got sent or not so here goes again.

M Obama is smart enough to realize that the world has changed and that either the US becomes proactive and changes with or ahead of it or we will be left behind. China has become the dominant world power, not in military terms but in economic terms and by the sheer numbers of their population. Man made borders mean nothing to: pollution, disease, crime, fear, hate, poverty, religious and ethnic strife and all the problems they cause. There is NO going back to what many conservatives believe was a utopian time (there never was such a time only selective memories). Obama is just what this country needs right now if this nation wants to stay strong and viable in this next century. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 18, 2009 6:18 PM:

" I see Sarah Palin is banning the press from her speeches now. I guess she doesn't want to get any of those tough gotcha type question, you know like what books have you read lately.


Just like Al Gore has been doing for years. Move on. "

" We now know how much it costs in ""bundled"" donations to get a prized ambassadorship from Obama:

Paris- Charles H. Rivkin $800,000
Nassau, Bahamas- Nicole Avant $800,000
Switzerland- Don Beyer $745,000
Madrid- Alan Solomont $500,000
London- Louis B. Susman $500,000

This spoils system started in earnest in the 1960s and is a de facto, three-year-term rental of ambassadorships by non-qualified politically connected elites. Both parties do it.

Given the rise of terrorism and the serious need for a professional diplomatic corps, it is a shame that the administration who preached change, decided to continue this abdominal practice of ambassadorial patronage.

Guess it is really no surprise, after all Obama got his political training from the Daily machine in Chicago, home of- yous gives me duh money and yous get a city job.

To be fair before his Inauguration, he said, it would be disingenuous for me to suggest that there are not going to be some political appointments.

My, what a polite way to say- gives me duh money and yous get a gooberment job.

Yep, same old stuff.

Change you can count on? "

" The Question wrote on Nov 18, 2009 3:38 PM:

" Sarah Palin is collecting the income for a bestselling book with her name on it that she did not write and may not have even read."

So what? It's not like ghost writers are uncommon. Obama didn't write "Dreams of My Father"... William Ayers wrote it. And again, so what? It's funny all you Palin haters are going into overdrive, because the more people like you hack into her, the more people support her. Nice job! "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 18, 2009 6:18 PM:
" I see Sarah Palin is banning the press from her speeches now.""""


did you see the clips of her book signing in michigan? she wore that crappy looking red suit with the big black buttons and had her greasy hair pulled back....i'm sure it was tina fey, NO ONE tries to look that bad unless it's a comedy skit. "

" speaking of palin, did you see her rehearsed interview with hannity last night?.....what a funny shtick that was!!


oh....and glenn beck as a VP candidate!!!

i can't wait for 2012....what fun!! "

" So what? It's not like ghost writers are uncommon
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You're right, Stevey. Palin's book is just as phony as everything else about her, except her genuine nastiness and her bottomless, whining, narcissistic self pity. "

" All The Way wrote on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 AM:


Just like Al Gore has been doing for years. Move on.

Hate to break it to you, but Gore's not running for president, as Palin obviously is. Think she can get all the way through the process hiding from tough question? Let's just hope she's been spending some time boning up on geography, and now knows that Africa's a continent and not a country. "

" "I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out."
-- The famed ignoramus Sarah Palin, referring to a federal department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009. "

" even steven wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:38 AM:
" because the more people like you hack into her, the more people support her.""""


in your dreams stevie!.....and her's too. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 19, 2009 6:22 AM:
" Kind of sounds like Durbin banning everyone but the press doesn't it. "

I wonder if she will follow the Bush model of having invited audiences only, jr? And if any one else gets past security wearing a anti Palin shirt, will they be arrested, like some did at Bush's speeches? "

Invited audiences like Clinton did, and Obama does, or like what happens to anyone who disagrees with Obamacare town hall meetings? Where they have merchandise destroyed by Obama's thugs, and close them out. Refusing to let anyone not in agreement ask questions. "

" Hmmmmmmmmmm. Thousands show up for her book signings and to hear her speak vs. 3 libs on a blog in central Illinois who obviously have some fear of Sarah Palin (I know, I know, what I interpret as fear and why you say you fear her are two different things) certainly means that you 3 are right and thousands are wrong so you all just continue your little foolish rants about a woman who never did a thing to you. Kind of pathetic on your part that you feel that need. "

" Picking up the pieces, huh? Failure at every turn including bailouts of banks and car companies, cash for clunkers, health reform fiasco that the majority don't want but is being pushed through anyway, trying and housing terrorists on our own soil, continuing to surround oneself with shady characters and employing Chicago-style politics. Or traveling all over the world trying to win friends and influence people and doing neither. Largest deficit ever, continue spending like idiots. Yeah, picking up the pieces, huh? "

" Wrong again, jr. I've seen several press conferences where Obama called on Fox reporters, who as you know represent a network whose objective is to destroy his administration. "

" Another Palin "Going Rogue" lie?

"That is the most cockamamie bullsh*t," said Dave Oesting of Anchorage, the lead plaintiff attorney in the private litigants' civil case against Exxon. "She didn't have a damn thing to do with it, and she didn't know what it was about."


This was from Palin's claims to have been involved with the Exxon-Valdez trial. The woman is trying to rewrite history. Another exaggeration or outright lie surfaces every day. No wonder she won't talk to the press (Fox doesn't count) during her book tour. "

" redwhiteblue wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 AM:
"you 3 are right and thousands are wrong so you all just continue your little foolish rants about a woman who never did a thing to you."""""



these are the thousands who would line up to see WWF wrestling....same bunch, same mental capacity. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 AM:
" Wrong again, jr. I've seen several press conferences where Obama called on Fox reporters, who as you know represent a network whose objective is to destroy his administration. "

LOL!!! To destroy his administration? He is doing a good job of that himself. Has he nominated anyone who has payed their taxes?
I saw several press conferences where Bush called on CNN and MSNBC reporters. So I guess that would make you wrong also. "

" What bridge do you people live under?

First, progressives are not communists. Second, Bush dumbed down the education standards and Bush had launched the stimulus -- aren't you a couple months and a year late on this letter?

I hate to break the news to you, but you can't "take back" what you never had -- you're living in a fantasy world where you think big words will make you sound intelligent. Sorry, but it's really working as well as you might have originally hoped.

Obama is no more a socialist than Reagan, who is no more a socialist than Bush, who is no more a socialist than Clinton... Prove the sky is falling (Obama is a socialist) and then we'll start to worry about it, okay? "

" "Obama and Holder intend to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in NYC on American soil... An action like this, by Obama and Holder, has NEVER before occurred... The implication of this occurrence is collossal... none of the media spinmeisters have acknowledged the main devastating implication."

We've NEVER tried a non-citizen for a crime? "

" Is it a wonder why Fox News ratings are growing higher every week? "

" LOL!!! To destroy his administration? He is doing a good job of that himself. Has he nominated anyone who has payed their taxes?

At least you didn't try to deny the goal of Fox news, jr. "

" Is it a wonder why Fox News ratings are growing higher every week? "

Three reasons, Jon.

1. Almost half the country didn't vote for Obama and Fox is the only "news" organization that beats the anti-Obama drum 24/7.

2. With the rise of Sarah Palin the dumbing down of American politics continues, and Fox just loves Palin.

3. Using all those good looking young female commentators in short skirts and leather boots appeals to a lot of people. Yes Jon, Fox uses sex to sell it's product.

Roger Ailes is a piece of human garbage, but he knows how to sell a product. "

" Wrong again as usual Potter, Fox News ratings continue to climb because the liberal non-news reporting networks continue to cover up and fail to cover anything that they deem as unfavorable for their idol and his Chicago thug cronies. Fox News continues to present all the views and all the news with a conservative slant but all the while allowing the wacko liberal leftists to be heard. That is the way it should be and that is why the majority of people like Fox News. All you have to do is let these wackos speak errrr write and they kill their own case. LOL Just like on these posts.

Sarah Palin really has you in a tailspin. I just love it! You liberals are scared to death of her! "

" Come on Jon, you like those short skirts and cleavage shots, don't you. You're probably like that guy who says he reads Playboy for the articles too. lol! I suppose you don't think Ailes is doing that to draw male viewers, huh? They are the only "news" outfit that focuses on that. And as I said, it seems to be working.

And hey, I'm pulling for Sarah, she's the best thing that's happened for the Democratic party in years. Have you seen the YouTube video of her getting exorcised of demons and evil spirits by her preacher? "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 25, 2009 6:12 AM:
" LOL!!! To destroy his administration? He is doing a good job of that himself. Has he nominated anyone who has payed their taxes?

At least you didn't try to deny the goal of Fox news, jr. "

I was doing just that. They don't need to destroy it he is letting the puppet master, Pelosi, destroy it. I would have more respect for him if he would stand up to her not bow to her. Remember when he said the public option could be removed. She said no it can't and he put his tail between his legs like a whipped pup, and caved. Deny that.


Harry Potter wrote on Nov 25, 2009 6:22 AM:
"... Using all those good looking young female commentators in short skirts and leather boots appeals to a lot of people. Yes Jon, Fox uses sex to sell it's product.

Roger Ailes is a piece of human garbage, but he knows how to sell a product. "


As for Fox using beautiful women all the news agencies have attractive women. Like you said it makes men want to watch the news. I guess that means all the news agencies are "a piece of human garbage"?

You might want to look at: http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/msnbc_f.htm, which shows some of NBC and MSNBC's female reporters.

Here are CNN's http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/cnn_cnn_f.htm

Here is ABCs' http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/misc_abc_f.php

Surely you are not like TheQuestion and intimidated by attractive women are you? "

" Come on jr, most of the other networks have their female commentators behind a desk, the fox gals are posed for leg shots, and you know it. A pretty slick marketing ploy by Ailes, who as I said is a master salesman. Hey, he managed to sell Richard Nixon to the voters, didn't he?

Given their daily belittling and mocking reports on the president (which goes over well with the Obama haters), I would imagine Fox would do well enough without the slutty appearing women, but I'm sure it appeals to some of the more repressed types like Jon Vanatta, who no doubt ogles away and doesn't have to feel guilty about it. And yes apparently cleavage and leg shots does draw viewers. I haven't seen the demographics of their audience, but I would imagine it's mostly older white males. lol!

And what in the world are you saying about our friend TQ being intimidated by good looking women? I don't get that one. Your not trying to push that stale line about anyone who criticises Palin is fearful of her are you? That bit is about as stale as your constantly bringing up that some of the Obama people had some tax issues. You really need to get some new material, jr.

I think you are afflicted with the same desease that seems to have taken over the whining poster that goes by red,white,blue. I call it Obamaitis. Nothing that man can do will please her, or you apparently. "

" HP,Nothing that man can do will please her, or you apparently. "

Im not Mr. Hendren but It would please me and a lot of others Im sure if Obama would release his birth certificate and clear up the question of why he received financial aid at Occidental College as a foreign student from Indonesia. He also could explain why he is justified in spending a million dollars in campaign donations to block disclosure of any of his personal records. He could also explain how he financed his Columbia and Harvard educations that is if he in fact even went to Columbia. He could also release where all his campaign funds came from, as he is required by law to.

Actually it would please me if Obama would just provide proof that he qualifies to be president of the USA and then a whole bunch of senators and electorates could try to explain why they never qualified him before electing him and inaugurating him.

After those things are satisfied then perhaps Harry Potter would start watching Fox News for some other reason than the only thing he seems to be able to think about namely the short skirts and cleavages. "

" After those things are satisfied then perhaps Harry Potter would start watching Fox News for some other reason than the only thing he seems to be able to think about namely the short skirts and cleavages. "
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Jon, unlike you I have no desire to know about Obama's educational funding (it's none of my business) or the inane claim you keep bring up about his birth certificate. How's Orly's lawsuits going on that? The last I heard she was given a huge fine for filing frivolous lawsuits. As far as the birth certificate go, he seems to have satisfied the election commission. If you recall they even certified McCain even though he was born on foreign soil. He was born in Panama on leased property. They said all children born to Americans on foreign military bases as considered American born. It that was good enough for them, it's good enough for me. You do know that the Republican governor of Hawaii has said his birth certificate is legitimate, don't you? Perhaps Obama feels the same way about his private life that George Bush did about his drug use history. Remeber Bush refused to talk about that. Were you equally offended by that?

After reading your comments referring to Obamas mother as his "mammy", your motivation for nit picking him is rather obvious. A lot of people your age aren't comfortable having a black president. Fortunate most young people don't feel the way you do, and hopefully we will have a color blind society someday.

As for Fox news, I watch them all the time as well as reading their on line news. They do some great scientific reports on line. I especially like reading their articles about how the earth was millions of years ago.

As I suspected it would, my short skirt and cleavage comments appeared to hit close to home with you. That's OK Jon, I completely understand, as I used to subscribe to Playboy magazine just for the articles. lol! "

" Hi Harry, thanks for one of your more civil posts. Just a couple of things in reply to it: you take undue offense at me using the name mammy. I often called my own mom mammy she wasnt offended by it. I didnt use it as a racial slur. I have no problem with having a black president, what I have a problem with is that many people voted for him simply for the reason that he is black. Just being black is not a reason to vote for someone.

The governor of Hawaii never said the birth certificate certified a Natural citizen birth, she only said she had seen it and then she sealed it so no one could have access to it. So why do they say it has been posted on the Internet when it has been sealed so no one can see it?
Only Obama can release it, so why is he hiding it? Or a Federal Court order could release it and I think that may happen soon. Personally, I hope he has a legitimate certificate proving that he is a natural born citizen. Yes, McCain was thoroughly investigated; why wasnt Obama? You know I wonder if there is not something else Obama doesnt want the public to know other than his birthplace that is more the overriding reason for his refusal to be transparent.

I agree that many people my age aren't comfortable having a black president, but it is not his being black that I am uncomfortable with about him. It seems to be more of a racial issue with you than it is with me.

Oh and Harry, would you give me a link to some of those articles by Fox News about the earth being millions of years old I like to read those things. We all know that most of our society today has been brainwashed into the old earth theory especially among the higher educated folks, so is there any reason people at Fox News would be any different? There are many people even among Christians who will not face the truth that the observable evidence provides. Most of these people are just like you when being pressed for why they accept evolution and old age earth theory; they cant provide a reason. "

" Harry I forgot to ask you something. If you watch Fox News "all the time" how do you have time to watch the other networks? "

" Harry Potter wrote on Nov 28, 2009 6:59 PM:
" Come on jr, most of the other networks have their female commentators behind a desk, the fox gals are posed for leg shots, and you know it. A pretty slick marketing ploy by Ailes, who as I said is a master salesman. Hey, he managed to sell Richard Nixon to the voters, didn't he?

Give me a break. Although it must by working you sure are watching it a lot to notice something like that. I don't even watch it that much. They all have their attractive women for one reason. More men watch the news then women and they are all competing for our attention. Was it or was it not CBS who, when Katie Couric sat in for Letterman, cut the desk to show her legs. In fact, she was always showing her legs in the morning. Fox doesn't show anymore then the others and you know it.
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Given their daily belittling and mocking reports on the president (which goes over well with the Obama haters), I would imagine Fox would do well enough without the slutty appearing women, but I'm sure it appeals to some of the more repressed types like Jon Vanatta, who no doubt ogles away and doesn't have to feel guilty about it. And yes apparently cleavage and leg shots does draw viewers. I haven't seen the demographics of their audience, but I would imagine it's mostly older white males. lol!

Like yourself Harry. LOL!! Again to notice all of this you spend a lot of time watching.
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And what in the world are you saying about our friend TQ being intimidated by good looking women? I don't get that one. Your not trying to push that stale line about anyone who criticises Palin is fearful of her are you?

No more then all those that say your racist if you disagree with Obama. It is quite obvious seeing the post he/she posted. For someone not intimidated by her TQ sure does bash her. That is the first thing someone does when intimidated, bring them down to your level.
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That bit is about as stale as your constantly bringing up that some of the Obama people had some tax issues. You really need to get some new material, jr.

Are you going to say the same to your friend about the "Bush lies", or about Palin, and the taken out of context, "I can see Russia from my house". How about the shown to be lies about Bush's military records. Is this again one of those one sided speeches, where it is do as I say not as I do? Besides a cabinet helping decide where our taxes go, when they are not paying theirs is important. (Had to throw that in for you LOL!)
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I think you are afflicted with the same desease that seems to have taken over the whining poster that goes by red,white,blue. I call it Obamaitis. Nothing that man can do will please her, or you apparently. "

I have never said he has done nothing right, unlike you and the question who do just that regarding Bush. Come on Harry Pot or Kettle? All you and them do is call Bush and Palin names. Childish at best. Name one time where I did not show the President respect, can you say the same of them. Do I agree with all his policies? No, but he is still the President, and a public figure and deserves respect. Just as the former President and former VP candidate do. I do not agree with you always or the Question, yet always try to show respect. I get it from you, but not TQ, even when I agree with him/her. Heck I stood up for him just today, when 61938 said something about him being born in Africa. Would you have done the same for Palin, or Bush? Maybe you all should speak by example. I've always said he deserves respect, whether anyone likes it or not he is our President until he loses the next election, or serves both of his terms. Try showing and demanding the same respect from your friends on the left also. "

" Oh and Harry, would you give me a link to some of those articles by Fox News about the earth being millions of years old I like to read those things.


Now Jon, I distinctly remember pointing out an article a few weeks ago on that. Just keep watching Fox's on line science reports, and I'm sure you will see more articles like the one I have already pointed out to you.

And all the time expression doesn't include every minute of the day, I would have thought you understood that common remark.

I probably spend and equal amount of time watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox. I flip back and forth to see how each of the cable networks are spinning the story of the day.

I have a hunch that you do the same.

And I'll give you a pass on the racist bit, although I think your justification for using that term was rather far fetched. "

" Thanks Harry, you are more than generous:-) "

" I can only speak for myself, jr. Those that treat me with respect get it right back, while those who attack or belittle me likewise get it right back.

You may have missed it, but on more than one occasion I have commented positively about Bush's lack of criticising Obama. Too bad the same thing can't be said about his VP. To be perfectly honest, I find it very hard to find anything that Bush ever did that I would agree with. Traditionally former presidents and VP's allow the new guy to do his thing, and Bush seems to be following that pattern. After Clinton won and limited Bush Sr to one term, you would have thought Bush Sr would be a Clinton critic, but he too showed class and kept his thoughts private.

As far as the comments about Obama being born in Africa, only a complete idiot would actually believe that one, so I can't give you much credit for defending him on that one.

As far as Palin goes, she's a left wing bloggers dream come true. So you better get used to it. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Dec 1, 2009 5:56 PM:
" I can only speak for myself, jr. Those that treat me with respect get it right back, while those who attack or belittle me likewise get it right back.

I to feel the same way and that is why I have always tried to so you respect, even though we do not agree.
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As far as the comments about Obama being born in Africa, only a complete idiot would actually believe that one, so I can't give you much credit for defending him on that one.

You do mean defending the President right? The evidence supporting him as a U.S. citizen is overwhelming.
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As far as Palin goes, she's a left wing bloggers dream come true. So you better get used to it. "

I have no problem with bloggers going after her, after all she is a big girl and can defend herself. It is the blatant disrespect of her that gets me. How calling her disrespectful names is getting a point across makes no sense to me. One can show facts without being disrespectful can't they? "