" Well said Mr. Hankins. The mainstream media lapdogs didn't and don't investigate anyone or anything except Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. It seems the rest of the world knows Obama better than our news people. "

" We're already paying for the uninsured Leroy. And the illegals too.
I agree with your uneasyness with the radical right wing though. All the liars the Republicans employ to spin the facts. Rush, O'Riely, Colter, Hanity, Dave Ramsey (in all our churches pretending to "care" about the little man)... Most of their listeners are too lazy to think for themselves and want their politics spoon fed. They belive these liars every word. Now that scares me. "

" Leroy forgot to mention Death Panels and Obama's birth certificate. But at least he got a plug in for the GOP's propaganda department, Fox news. "

" Mr. Hankins and folks like him are why Americans are uneasy. Commonsense, honest debate, responsible reporting from news and faux news agencies, respect for human rights,....all out the window when you have an agenda to push. "

" JWT wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 AM:
" We're already paying for the uninsured Leroy. And the illegals too.
I agree with your uneasyness with the radical right wing though. All the liars the Republicans employ to spin the facts. Rush, O'Riely, Colter, Hanity, Dave Ramsey (in all our churches pretending to "care" about the little man)... Most of their listeners are too lazy to think for themselves and want their politics spoon fed. They belive these liars every word. Now that scares me. """""


great post! "

" Leroy stated: "If I may add my opinion, there will probably not be 96,000 new doctors willing to train in order to take care of the 48 million newly insured."

So, Mr. Hankins, you are saying that since you and yours are covered with health care that you want those who are not to just go away and not rock your boat? Seriously Mr. Hankins, that has to be one of the most selfish "reasons" I've EVER heard about healthcare. It saddens me that another human being could feel this way about other human beings in need of a doctor and medicine. Shame on you! "

" The "bipartisan" Obama administration has emboldened the Fox News swine by surrendering to the Fox News smear campaigns without a fight on some of it nominees.
Bullies are excited by weakness. To end their vicious attacks, you have to smash them right back in the face.
The White House should issue documented lists of exploded Fox News lies, sneer at them, mock them, laugh at them, hammer them, dismiss them, then hit them again and again.
Obama could, for example, offer Bill O'Reilly the ambassadorship to Malmedy. "

" I agree, it does make me uneasy that we've been given many examples of corruption in Obama's "empire" in less than one year but it doesn't seem to make any difference to the Dems. They continue to worship him more everyday. If former President Bush had been found to have had this much corruption in less than ONE year in office he would have been lynched (at least in the media). We in Illinois should know better than anyone the dangers of voting an obvioulsy corrupt idiot into a position of power over, and over, and over again... "

" I see the usual coterie of slavering Obama sycophants are out in full force today. "

" Jon Vanatta wrote on Oct 7, 2009 7:23 AM:
" Well said Mr. Hankins. The mainstream media lapdogs didn't and don't investigate anyone or anything except Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. It seems the rest of the world knows Obama better than our news people. """""


you're right vanatta, the world loves our beloved president.

glad you brought up your idols, i needed a good chuckle today. "Palin 2012"....ROFLMAO!! "

" Speaking of Fox News, ColorOfChange.org has announced that 19 new advertisers have dropped Glenn Beck, bringing the total number of companies who have pledged not to advertise on Beck's TV show to 80. "

" The WH and MSM are taking this personally because They put their personal selves into this push for Chicago getting the '16 Olympics and the fallout landed on them so they need someone to blame it on.

Don't ask me how it's Republicans/Conservatives fault for giggling. I don't pledge my allegiance to either Barak Obama or Chicago and I'm sure neither do my Republican/Conservative brothers and sisters. However, I do laugh when ego-oriented narcissists and their flacks, who think nothing can touch them, slip on a banana peel and fall down a manhole.

It's all in the very best tradition of classic comedy. ROTFLMAO "

" I can't believe how asleep most people are. When are you going to wake up and realize that no matter where you get your news from it has a major spin to it, that no matter which political party you wish to associate yourself with they are lying to you. "

" Democratic Party "Leadership":

--Comptroller: State Finances A Mounting Crisis - The State of Illinois' pile of unpaid bills has grown to a record-breaking $3 billion.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/comptroller.state.finances.2.1232001.html

--CBO: Budget deficit hit record $1.4T in 2009 - The previous record deficit was $459 billion and was set just last year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091007/ap_on_go_co/us_budget_deficit

--Focus on Rangel, a Chairman Under Investigation

'Mr. Rangel a symbol of Democratic misconduct and institutional arrogance because of his belated disclosure of personal assets and other financial missteps.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/us/politics/03rangel.html?hp "

" Fox noise is still beating the drum this morning over the doctors going to the White House. They're lamenting this and calling it a staged performance. Of course it was. It seems to me that it wasn't to long ago that we had a president who only spoke to crowds that were there by invitation only. No complaints from Fox on that. I heard one of their "fair and balanced" commentators whining about Obama going to the IOC board trying to get the Olympics staged here too. What they failed to mention was that every head of state of the countries bidding was there too. Ah, good old Fox, only reporting the side that supports their ongoing assault on the president. If Obama had ignored this situation, they would have been all over him. Yes Leroy, they're fair and balanced alright. "

" I see where Bob Dole has chastised his fellow Republicans over the health care issue. Doe went as far as to call his party's current leader an obstructionist. Dole has joined his fellow former Majority leader, Lott as well as some other prominent party members in calling for action. It appears that there is a shift occurring as we speak. In spite on the ongoing efforts of Fox news, health care is gaining momentum and appears to be getting closer to becoming a reality. The party of no is going to lose another one. Leroy, as well as the rest of the Obama bashers on this site like Sybil and all of his personalities, need to stock up on Kleenex, they're gonna need them. LOL! "

" WASHINGTON Health care legislation drafted by a key Senate committee would expand coverage to 94 percent of all eligible Americans at a 10-year cost of $829 billion, congressional budget experts said Wednesday, a preliminary estimate trumpeted by the White House and likely to power the measure past a major hurdle within days.

The Congressional Budget Office added that the legislation would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal" red ink in the years beyond.
AP-

Well well well!

And of course Fox has all of a sudden become a critic of the CBO. While just a few short weeks ago they were touting CBO figures that said a former bill was too costly. Now that the CBO has said this is feasible, they've become a critic of the very source they were using the other day. The transparent hypocrisy of Fox news becomes more evident by the day. Desperate spin is in play at Fox as usual. Folks, it doesn't get any better than this. "

" Jim,
Fox News is unprecidented in it's out right lies. No one else even comes remotly close.
Problem with this is most Fox News fans arn't smart enough or are too lazy to form their own opinion and believe everything they're told.
The average man ends up supporting legislation that favors the mega wealthy.
Seen a guy in a rusty old truck the other day with a McCain/Palin sticker and I just shook my head. "

" Another huge payceck we the people have to pay via taxes are the unvetted czars.
I found out that their saleries are
$172,000.00 each and they are accountable to no one except Pre. Obama-
sounds like transparency and change doesn't it? Let's see ---- $172,000. x
34 czars and counting=?? Hmmmmm????
and their ethics are questionable---- "

" Fox News's Shepard Smith demonstrated some of that trademarked independent thinking that so often gets him in dutch with the cable network's most dedicated viewers, when he took on Senator John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) and offered up some serious-minded and well-informed pushback on the public option. His initial response, for my money, is rich with substance and exceedingly well-expressed:

SMITH: Over the last ten years health care costs in America have skyrocketed. Regular folks cannot afford it. So, they tax the system by not getting preventative medicine. They go to the emergency room in the last case and we all wind up paying for it. As the costs have gone up, the insurance industry's profits, on average, have gone up more than 350%. And it is the insurance companies which have paid, and who have contributed to Senators and Congressmen on both sides of the aisle to the point where now we cannot get what all concerned on Capitol Hill seem to believe and more 60% of Americans say they would support, which is a public option. This has been an enormous win for the health-care industry, that is an unquestioned fact. But I wonder, what happens to the American people when we come out with legislation now which requires everyone to have health care insurance -- or many more people -- but does not give a public option? Therefore millions more people will have to buy insurance from the very corporations that are overcharging us, and whose profits have gone up 350 percent in the last ten years. It seems like we the people are the ones getting the shaft here.
Huffington Post-

Holy cow! No wonder most of the fox fanatics hate Smith, he actually tells the truth. It's Rare to actualy hear the truth on anyone from Fox. He may not be around for long if he keeps talking like that. "

" " Another huge payceck we the people have to pay via taxes are the unvetted czars.
I found out that their saleries are
$172,000.00 each and they are accountable to no one except Pre. Obama-
sounds like transparency and change doesn't it? Let's see ---- $172,000. x
34 czars and counting=?? Hmmmmm????
and their ethics are questionable---- "


I'm surprised that you're so upset over the czar concept, jayce. Especially considering that George W Bush appointed well over 40 himself. Were you just as offended when Bush did it? And I suspect that if the Dems had went back 20 and 30 years into the lives of some of those folks Bush appointed, like the GOP has, they might have found a skeleton or two.

You might be better off sticking to the birth certificate story, or that Obama is really a secret Muslim next time. Your "czar" complaint doesn't hold much water light of past history. You get a D- for that inane comment. "

" A CIGNA employee gave the finger -- literally -- to a woman whose daughter died after the insurance giant refused to cover her liver transplant.

Hilda and Krikor Sarkisyan went to CIGNA's Philadelphia headquarters, along with supporters from the California Nurses Association, to confront the CEO Edward Hanway over the death of her 17-year-old child.

In 2007, Nataline Sarkisyan was denied a liver transplant by the company, on the grounds that the operation was "too experimental" to be covered. Nine days later it changed its mind, in response to protests outside its office. It was too late: Nataline died hours later


It took the CEO of Cigna a full month to issue an apology letter to the family. "

" Ya, the left is always bad. Dont look at the right wing who controls the military. Naw, those folks are patriots, even if they love bombing brown people, covering up rape and other human rights errors.

But ya, its the left. "

" shumphreys wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:42 AM:
" Mr. Hankins and folks like him are why Americans are uneasy. Commonsense, honest debate, responsible reporting from news and faux news agencies, respect for human rights,....all out the window when you have an agenda to push. "

That is quite funny coming from you. One who will not have an honest debate, uses one sided news agencies, and does not believe in human rights. "

" HP: Wake up and celebrate. Obama "won" the Nobel Peace Prize for basically reading someone else's speeches. Trying to figure out how that makes him the big winner. I too, want Peace On Earth for everyone, so my nomination for next year's prize will be appreciated. Have a nice day, Harry. "

" In the course of reporting a story for this week's TIME magazine, which is about the White House's determination to take the fight to its critics, I came across a lot of sentiments like this quote about Fox News that I noted a couple days back. "They are the paid political programming for a party, and occasionally a couple of news stories break out in the midst of 23 hours and 45 minutes of political rantings and opinion," said one senior administration official. "Everything about it is one-sided political opinion directed at a base. Period."
Op ed from Time-

Oh, but they're so fair and balanced... "

" Actually, Obama won the Noble Peace Prize FOR NOT BEING GEORGE W. BUSH. The world hated and was afraid of the stupid, dangerous fascist George W. Bush, and this is the world's way of signaling its approval to America's corrected path. "

" Thanks Hound Dog, I'll try to. I'm going to let you in on a little secret, All presidents rely on speech writers. Be sure to tune into Fox news for voices that echo your sentiments today. I'm sure they too will try to bash Obama over this award too.

A president who uses speech writers? What's the world coming to? LOL! "

" interesting to see all the whitey-righties yammering and spewing the same sort of hate that cost them the 2008 elections.

people with any intelligence are offended when they read lies and misconceptions being thrown about by the same crowd over and over again. these imbeciles think they're headed for the promised land and victories in 2010 and 2012....ask john mccain and mrs. moose if these tactics actually work. "

" UPDATE: Either sensing an opening to cast the Republican Party as actively rooting against America, or just fed up with the stream of negative responses, the Democratic National Committee put out an unusually blunt statement Friday morning. The gist: that the GOP sides with the terrorists.

"The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists -- the Taliban and Hamas this morning -- in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize," wrote DNC Communications Director Brad Woodhouse. "Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize -- an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride -- unless of course you are the Republican Party. The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It's no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it's an embarrassing label to claim.
Sam Stein-

Yep, Sam pretty well summed up the Republicans position on this as well as anything else the "new" GOP stands for. "

" Poor widdle wight wingers. Is oo all mad about mean old Obama winning Nobel Pwize? "

" First, he was too inexperienced to be president.
Then he was too black to be president.
Then he wasn't really American, so he wasn't really president.
Then he was trying to do too much.
And now, he doesn't deserve the Nobel Prize because he hasn't done enough.
We have a saying that applies. If Obama walked on water, the corporate media headline would be "Obama Can't Swim."
And the right-wing response to this post will be: "See! The liberals think Obama walks on water!" "

" Oh Mr. Hendren you are such a sore loser. You know it isn't Christian to lie about people, me or the president. Or is it Christian. Gosh you know I see more lies coming from "Christians" on these threads than I see truth, so maybe lying and spreading misinformation is the Christian thing to do. A religion based on lies and misinformation teaching its followers to spread more lies and misinformation, ain't it great. "

" At least Hounddog Obama is actually doing something to earn his prize. I'm not quite sure what you are doing. I wonder if the award of the peace prize is as much a slap in the face for Bush (the way the world can show what they really thought of Bush) as it is a recognition of the hope Obama has brought to the world. "

" "The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists...

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"Terrorists"?

There are no terrorists, remember?

Obama (Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm) and Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano said there are only "man made destructionists", remember? Hahaha!
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The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn....

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Well what do you expect?

You liberals have wanted Republicans to think and act like democrats, right?

Well the Repubs have learned their craft, over the last eight years be lambasted during the Bush administration, from the antics provided by the liberals..and now...as the typical "victims" you liberals are...you cry foul how over the Republicans are acting...well boo hoo hoo.! "

" Obama wins a Nobel Peace Prize! Who didn't see that coming - whether he won the election or not? As my friend The Question points out . . . he won the prize for *not* being George Bush.

Based on what Obama has done in and of himself for the United States since taking office, it makes the Nobel Peace Prize what we used to say at the fraternity house in college . . . "Beta Phi Delta!" "

" 'It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. A beautiful day for neighbors.

Could you be mine?
Would you be mine?

Won't you please, please won't you be...won't you be please... my neighbor?'
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Mr. R: Hello boys and girls. Golly-gee, isn't it a beautiful day, boys and girls? You know why it's a beautiful day boys and girls?

It's a beautiful day because Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm won the Nobel Peace Prize!

Boys and girls: (in unison) Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

Mr. R: You all know what the Nobel Peace Prize is, don't you? Anybody here can tell us what it is?

Lil' Tommy: Oh! Oh! Oh! I know..I know!

Mr. R: Okay Lil' Tommy...tell us about the Nobel Peace Prize.

Lil' Tommy: The Nobel Peace Prize was started by Alfred Nobel, the inventor of nitroglycerin and dynamite. And because Nobel felt so bad that his invention had KILLED MILLIONS of people, out of guilt, he decided to award prizes worth millions of dollars to persons who have "done good" to other people!

Mr R.: Very good Tommy! You boys and girls are soooo smart.

Mr R.:So boys and girls...do you know what "good" Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm has done to win the award?

Sally: I know, I know!

Mr R.: Okay Sally tell us what "good" Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm has done!

Sally: He's bankrupt the country...putting the country trillions of dollars in debt...and more than all of the previous 42 before him! He's put America so far in debt that some of the other countries in the world want to change from the dollar as the standard currency reserve to other currencies like the Euro, Rupee, and the Yuan. Doing that will make the dollar worth virtually nothing...like what happened with the Deutsch Mark during the Weimar Republic after World War 1! the dollars now at it's lowest point per capita GDP since 1950!

Mr R.: VERY VERY good Sally! You are SOOOO SMART! Can anyone else tell us what Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm has done to win the Nobel Peace Prize?

Lil' Tommy: He, along with his congressional leaders Pelosi and Reid have KILLED not only innocent AFGHANS and PAKISTANIS, but AMERICAN SOLDIERS TOO, in wars that they've said we've lost...but he still continues to fight them. He also said that he'd stop the practice of rendition but he still allows rendition to occur. He also wants to give American citizen rights to war combatants in foreign lands that HAVE KILLED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS!

Mr R.: Once again, very good Tommy! Okay others, please tell us what "good" Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm has done!

Lil Harry: I know, I know!

Mr R.: Okay Lil' Harry...tell us...

Lil' Harry: He's put FREAKS AND MALCONTENTS in office as CZARS, just like Adolf Hitler did in Germany with his administration right before World War 2.

Mr R.: WOW! Lil' Harry can you explain?

Lil' Harry: Yeah sure...Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm put people in like VAN JONES who said himself that HE WAS HIMSELF a communist. He put CASS SUNSTEIN in office who says that animals should have more rights than a human fetus and said that we should provide lawyers to animals. Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm put A BUNCH of Tax cheats like TIM GEITHNER in office to give money to Obama Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm Wall Street cronies. He wants to put in as SAFE SCHOOLS CZAR KEVIN JENNINGS, who's stated his contempt for religion and who praised the founder of NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association (pedophile group). Jennings is so "good" that he didn't report, as he is legally required to do, when told by an underage youth that the youth had had carnal knowledge with an adult. He put in science czar JOHN HOLDREN who wrote in a college textbook that "illegitimate children" born to unwed mothers should be seized by the government and put up for adoption if the mother had refused to have an abortion. Holdren also supports "compulsory" abortion for certain circumstances. He also put into Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Czar office CHAI FELDBLUM who signed a manifesto PRAISING POLYGAMY and arguing traditional marriage should not be privileged above other forms of union.

Mr R.: Can anyone else tell us what Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm has done to win the Nobel Peace Prize?

Lil' Suzy: I know, I know! Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm has done such a good job telling the whole world how terrible America is that he lost the Olympics for America!

Mr. R: Well boys and girls,that's all we have time for, for today.

And remember if you do "good" things like Obama - Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm you can win the Nobel Peace prize from group who's members are "regretful" for all the "bad" things they have contributed to...
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'I've always wanted a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with people like you,

Won't you please, please won't you, please won't you be...my neighbor?' "

" wheeewwweeeeee!!!!


Neonut's foaming at the mouth like a rabid lemming.

someone poke her with a stick! "

" how hilarious is this!!...

the neoconservative rightwing is puckered so tight you could cut off lock washers!!

~HaPPy DaYs aRE HeRE AgaIN....!!!!!~ "

" Neocon sweety such a sour puss, the loss of the Olympics had nothing to do with Obama. Although it might have been another way for the world to punish the US for its many transgressions under Bush. Actually I think Chicago (and the rest of Illinois) should be counting its blessings that it lost. "

" Don't be so impressed by Obama's (Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm) award...

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, the peace prize is given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Like the Parliament, the committee has a leftist slant, with three members elected by left-of-center parties. Jagland said the decision to honor Obama was unanimous.

Jagland rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just as it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 in his efforts to open up the Soviet Union.

So there you have it GROUPTHINK at it's finest...and you'd think the "right-wing conspiracy" is so in cohorts together... "

" Look, they don't give anti-prizes to the most rotten, dangerous, stupid leaders in the world. So the best they could do was give a prize to the far superior guy who REPLACED the rotten, dangerous and stupid man who allegedly ran the U.S. government.
Don't look at the Nobel Peace Prize as an honor to Obama. Look at it as the most profound insult the world could devise to slap in the face of Bush and the Republican Party. Maybe that will help take away the sting, right wingers.
And yes, I am enjoying this spectacle. You right wingers can be so entertaining on occasions like this. "

" Neonut is taking Obama's award pretty hard isn't he? He needs to tune into Beck to get picked up a little bit. lol! "

" Hey neo, all of you disgruntled losers shouldn't take it so hard. George W Bush also got some citations. A quick Internet search came up with one for theft and 3 for DUI's. "

" One could ask how do you get nominated for the Peace Prize only two weeks after taking office, but then you see that they gave the same award to Yassir Arafat and you have to say, "never mind". "

" SHUMPHREYS: Obama "winning" the Nobel Peace Prize after being nominated by Mr. Stealth, is like an 8 year old boy getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, while awaiting his first guitar at Christmas. A little undeserving, to say the least. Now let it rest at that. "

" A State Department spokesperson, commenting on the Obama Nobel: "Certainly from our standpoint, this gives us a sense of momentum, when the United States has accolades tossed its way, rather than shoes." "

" Hey neo, all of you disgruntled losers shouldn't take it so hard. George W. Bush also got some citations. A quick Internet search came up with one for theft and 3 for DUI's.
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And the Marx Award goes to Harry. Groucho, not Karl. "

" Looney Leftists Cadre- what does this remind you of:

A president that doesnt bother to talk to his hand picked commanding general in the field but once over a seven month period.

A president that said- "We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there," (8/14/07) yet stalls and vacillates on giving the commanding general the troops he says are needed.

American troops on the ground that have become disillusioned because the commander in chief cant make up his mind nor give clear cut direction for the entire 9 months he has been in office-

Its a very frustrating mission," said Lieutenant Hjelmstad. "The average soldier sees a friend blown up and his instinct is to retaliate or believe its for something [worthwhile], but its not like other wars where your buddy died but they took the hill. Theres no tangible reward for the sacrifice. Its hard to say Wardak is better than when we got here."

Captain Masengale, a soldier for 12 years before he became a chaplain, said: "We want to believe in a cause but we dont know what that cause is.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6865359.ece

http://tinyurl.com/ygz5xog
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Where is your outrage LLCoO?

fb as a self proclaimed wounded Vietnam Vet, why arent you of all people screaming about this intolerable indecision by the leftists elected beloved leader?

Of course, silly me now I have it- the big O has fallen back on his old habits and is just voting present again.

To bad he is wasting the lives of our troops because he cant decide on a direction, purpose or plan. "

" Progressives Back Obama Push For Global Tax

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All right, this has gone as far as I can stand! I got these in an email supposedly from Bill Cosby.
I think they speak for many of us.

'Press 1 for English' is immediately banned. English is the official language.
Speak it or wait at the border until you can.

We will immediately go into a two year isolationist posture to straighten out the country's attitude. NO imports, no exports. We will use the Wal-Mart policy, if we ain't got it, you don't need it.'

When imports are allowed, there will be a 100% import tax on it.

All retired military personnel will be required to man one of our many observation towers on the southern border (six month tour). They will be under strict orders not to fire on SOUTHBOUND aliens.

Social security will immediately return to its original state. If you didn't put anything in, you are not getting anything out. Neither the president nor any other politician will be able to touch it.


Welfare - Checks will be handed out on Fridays at the end of the 40 hour school week and the successful completion of a passing grade and a urinalysis test.

Crime - We will adopt the Turkish method, the first time you steal, you lose your right hand. There are no more life sentences. If convicted of murder, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for your victim; gun, knife, strangulation, etc.

One export will be allowed, Wheat. The world needs to eat. A bushel of wheat will be the exact price as a barrel of oil.

All foreign aid using American taxpayer money will immediately cease, and the saved money will pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, well ask the American people if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision whether it's a worthy cause.

The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.

The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc. "

" Fox news has joined in with the rest of the country in recognizing our presidents latest honor. Their way of doing it is to gather as many Obama haters as they can to come on the air and tell why the president is undeserving of this award. Good ole Fox, fair and balanced. "

" Hey Sammy, you forgot to add this one: all youth should be required to wear brown shirts. "

" HoundDog you also seem unable to read more than one sentence at a time. I did mention in my first post about the award that I thought it was as much a slap in Bushs face as recognition for the hope that Obama brings. One should never doubt or underestimate the power of hope or what it takes to bring it to a world starved for hope. I would rather have seen it awarded later in his presidency than at this time (although not because I don't think it was deserved). BUT hey I wasn't on the Committee. "

" No reasons for unease ?

Another voice calling for another of our officials to actually do their constitutional duties:

Civil Rights Commission to Holder: Investigate ACORN now!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Civil-Rights-Commission-to-Holder-Investigate-ACORN-now-63887527.html

Tinylink:
http://tinyurl.com/ykvprw8

In an official letter on Oct. 9 the chairman and four other commissioners of the Civil Rights Commission officially requested Attorney General Eric Holder launch a full-fledged, nationwide investigation of ACORN...with all deliberate speed.

ACORN which is under investigation in 15 states for vote fraud and in its own internal report has raised serious questions about the relationships between its nearly 175 affiliates and possible violations of federal law including money transfers, possible conflicts of interest of employees working for more than one affiliate, and widespread evidence of ACORNs role in fostering vote fraud.

The commissioners called the filing of possibly hundreds of thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications in some 14 states an invidious invitation for corruption that disenfranchises legitimate voters, and called on Holder to take serious and rapid action.
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Hum, strong evidence that at the least hundreds of millions of gooberment money has been funneled into ACORN and its affiliates by a corrupt dummycrat party with the end results being widespread voter fraud and corruption in their interests.

Wanna bet it will end up just like Holders dropping the Department of Justice investigation into the voter intimidation in Philadelphia by the New Black Panther Party?

According to some on this site ACORN is just a well meaning, little old community organization being picked on by those ol nasty right wing zealots and the dreaded Fox news.

Heck, nationwide voter fraud, the government looking the other way, nope that is nothing to be uneasy about is it LCoO? "

" shumphreys: No dis-respect meant, but I don't read all the posts, only when my "light" comes on. "

" You have people on here saying Right Wingers are whining because Obama received the Noble Peace Prize. Then these people say the right wingers say he didn't deserve it because:
1. too inexperience - right he was becasue he was nominated 17 days after taking office and the only thing Obama had done at that point was decide what color to paint the Master Bathroom.
2. He was to black - wrong he's seems to be more muslim the way he is kneeling and kissing their feet.
3. That he wasn't really an American - prove that he is, the birth certificate is still missing.
4. Doesn't deserve it because he hasn't done anything - right, and I challenge you to name 5 things HE has done (besides appearing on seseme street and other talk shows) Not Nancy, Reid or the other dummycrats.
HERE ARE A FEW MORE THINGS YOU LEFT WINGERS CAN PONDER.
You Obama supporters, be honest now.
If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful
and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing
videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly
narcissistic and tacky?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a
minor slip?

If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you
have approved?

If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco
de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the fourth of
May (Cuatro de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again,
would you have winced in embarrassment?

If George W. Bush had miss-spelled the word advice would you have
hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as "proof" of
what a dunce he is?

If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a
single tree on "Earth Day", would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan
causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually
"get" what happened on 9-11?

If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is
really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in
New Orleans, would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,
would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had
taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again 10 times
within years, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM
stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take
Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant
and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all the
above in just 5 months -- so be patient you've still got three years and
seven months to come up with an answer. "

" Detroit's Model Citizens Line Up for Money from Obama's "Stash"

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Let us be truthful. These people are mostly black unemployed who voted for Obama and continually vote for the same Democrats election after election. Then they wonder why their Blue state is broke and will continue to be broke. Hispanics in Ca. are swayed toward this dependence mentality but not as much as many, many black citizens. When 95% of blacks vote Dem and they they actually think that Obama has a slush fund for them and that it does not come from taxpayer's monies, we are in deep deep trouble.
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" Detroit's Model Citizens Line Up for Money from Obama's "Stash"

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Otherwise defined as Voluntary Slavery.

With all of the progress made through Affirmative Action, there are still those who espouse the slave attitude.
Slaves are dependent upon the kindness and generosity of a master. Free men are their own masters.
Only by accepting the obligations as well as the benefits of freedom will these modern-day slaves be truly free. Continuing to depend on handouts from a pandering government keeps THEM in bondage and the Democrats in power. "

" AND that HoundDog is why you have no credibility with your posts! "

" Funny how those on the right are screaming for an instigation of ACORN but jump up and down over the idea investigating the Bush/Cheney travesty. How about this, Holder should investigate both. That sounds fair to me. "

" Even those of us who are pulling for the current president didn't realistically expect him to clean up the mess he inherited in less than a year. Of course those on the right think this mess is the result of the man who is actually trying to do something about it. Their only answer was more tax cuts for the super wealthy. And where are the results of the massive tax cuts for the millionaires Bush gave away? That trickle down idea didn't work, but they're not talking about that. They're too busy telling us how bad Obama is. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 11, 2009 5:29 PM:
" Funny how those on the right are screaming for an instigation of ACORN but jump up and down over the idea investigating the Bush/Cheney travesty. How about this, Holder should investigate both. That sounds fair to me. "
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While we are at it lets get a few special prosecutors together and also take a good strong look into:

* The connections between the dummy-crats (Barney and his lover and the rest of gang) and the Dummy-crat contrived failure of Freddie and Fanny.

* The Johnny Chung funneled Chinese contributions to the DNC and President Clintons campaigns

* The illegal sale of advanced manufacturing equipment to the Chinese (you know the technology they used to improve the accuracy of their missiles)

* The sweetheart mortgages given by Countrywide Financial, the nations biggest mortgage lender, to elected officials and government bureaucrats (Chris Dodd ring a bell HP?)

Heavens, the list would go on and on.

Tell you what, Ill bet you a Starbucks Grande coffee that they just pay lip service to the ACORN scandals just like they are doing in the ethics committees right now on the dirty congress-critters. "

" How about this, Holder should investigate both. That sounds fair to me.
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Fine with me, Harry. If there's voter fraud, expose it and prosecute it right alongside the torturing fascist war criminals. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 11, 2009 6:44 PM:
" Even those of us who are pulling for the current president didn't realistically expect him to clean up the mess he inherited in less than a year. Of course those on the right think this mess is the result of the man who is actually trying to do something about it. Their only answer was more tax cuts for the super wealthy. And where are the results of the massive tax cuts for the millionaires Bush gave away? That trickle down idea didn't work, but they're not talking about that. They're too busy telling us how bad Obama is. "
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Heck, I would have settled for him and his arrogant cohort in congress just not destroying what was left.

It almost looks like he wants to remake the country doesnt it harry p?

Harry p do you think he is really using the Cloward/Piven Strategy of Economic Recovery- you know the radical strategy from the 70s to promote radical change and remake the country by making an already weak economy even worse?

http://tinyurl.com/b2ac6b

Tell you what harry p, lets play a game. For each meaningful accomplishment that you can post and prove with references of some successful action by President Obama, ol Bps wont post for a day.

Of course for each of his failures I post, you cant post for a day (that includes dohbaugh).

Shoot to make it fair for you, maybe we should extend that to his short career as Junior Senator from Illinois. Nope, nothing there that helps is there harry p?

Maybe you can find something from his career in the Illinois State house. Still nothing there harry p?

I know he graduated from Harvard! Ah heck, since all of his records, articles and grade point is sealed that doesnt help either does it harry p?

Darn it is the same with his entire history isnt it harry p?

Yep, it is going to be tuff isnt it harry p. His talking the talk isnt the same as walking the walk is it.

Want to play the game harry p? "

" Good honest open debate, Dummy-crat style!

Former Vice President Al Gore shared his optimism about the "shifting momentum" of the climate change debate with about 500 environmental journalists Friday in Madison.

Gore has been criticized for not publicly debating his position since the release of his 2006 Oscar-winning documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth."

In what organizers said was a rarity, Gore took half a dozen questions from journalists, including one from Phelim McAleer, an Irish filmmaker who asked Gore to address nine errors in his film identified by a British court in 2007.

Gore responded that the court ruling supported the showing of his film in British schools.

When McAleer tried to debate further, his microphone was cut off by the moderators.
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Dare to question the man who has made multiple millions of his carbon credit scams and they shut off the microphone.

Hum, not un-similar to not publishing or reading bills before they are passed.

The new dummy-crat mantra:

Debate--- we dont need no stinking debate, we won. . . . . . . . "

" Hey TQ, Bush's war cost thousands of young Americans their lives. I haven't read about too many getting killed from ACORN. A few bad apples, certainly but nothing of the size and magnitude of the havoc caused by the Bush/Cheney ill thought out tragedy in Iraq. Halliburton and Blackwater's fraudulent billing alone cost the tax payers a lot more than the unethical actions of a few employees at ACORN. Those calling for heads to roll at ACORN should be calling for the Bush/Cheney corruption to be investigated. Are they doing that? No, and I don't think they will. Even comparing the two situations is laughable. But what else can you expect from the losing side? "

" father bob wrote on Oct 9, 2009 4:16 PM:

" how hilarious is this!!...

the neoconservative rightwing is puckered so tight you could cut off lock washers!!

~HaPPy DaYs aRE HeRE AgaIN....!!!!!~ "

Sounds like you also have homosexual tendencies FB! Doesn't surprise me though!! "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 12, 2009 11:02 AM:
" Hey TQ, Bush's war cost thousands of young Americans their lives. I haven't read about too many getting killed from ACORN. A few bad apples, certainly but nothing of the size and magnitude of the havoc caused by the Bush/Cheney ill thought out tragedy in Iraq. Halliburton and Blackwater's fraudulent billing alone cost the tax payers a lot more than the unethical actions of a few employees at ACORN. Those calling for heads to roll at ACORN should be calling for the Bush/Cheney corruption to be investigated. Are they doing that? No, and I don't think they will. Even comparing the two situations is laughable. But what else can you expect from the losing side? "


Wow once again is the liberals doing something illegal it has to be changed to Bush and Cheney, and the war. The war that these masterminds got other countries to fall for using mostly British intelligence, and intelligence from the former President. Who was the president before Bush again? Why do you all have a problem admitting that the left is no better? That both sides have their crooks. "

" News flash: "Obama wins Heisman Trophy. He watched a college football game."
Let's blame Reaganomics. You libs hate El Rushbo because he makes sense. However, FB can't possibly be racist, can he? His favorite drop down answer is something like "What Klan meeting.......". "

" GrampaC wrote on Oct 13, 2009 7:58 AM:
" News flash: "Obama wins Heisman Trophy. He watched a college football game."
Let's blame Reaganomics. You libs hate El Rushbo because he makes sense. However, FB can't possibly be racist, can he? His favorite drop down answer is something like "What Klan meeting.......". """""



sorry gramps, but YOU are guilty by association.

if you condone and even boast about attending a speech by a self proclaimed racist and you listen to him and defend him as well as the other two other self proclaimed racists on fox....guess what.... "

" Americans have cause to be uneasy...

The communist Chinese understand capitalism better than America's democrats...

HEADLINE: China's super-rich bounce back from financial crisis
Reuters

BEIJING (Reuters) China's super-rich have bounced back from the financial crisis with a vengeance, and China now has more known dollar billionaires than any other country bar the United States, according to a new report released on Tuesday.

The annual Hurun Report said China has 130 known dollar billionaires, up from 101 last year. The number in the United States is 359 while Russia has 32 and India 24, according to Forbes magazine. "

" sorry gramps, but YOU are guilty by association.
if you condone and even boast about attending a speech by a self proclaimed racist and you listen to him and defend him as well as the other two other self proclaimed racists on fox....guess what.... "
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And you really taught in public school, did you, Harry Potter?

So, if you've associated sat with a domestic terrorist(Bill Ayers), went to a church with a racist minister (Jeremiah Wright) FOR 20 YEARS, filled your administrative cabinet full of tax cheats, communists, malcontents, and various other whack-jobs...

...WHAT DOES THAT MAKE OBAMA (Mmmm, Mmmm, Mmmm)? "

" fb says >"sorry gramps, but YOU are guilty by association.

if you condone and even boast about attending a speech by a self proclaimed racist and you listen to him and defend him as well as the other two other self proclaimed racists on fox....guess what.... "
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I say to fb > "If you condone and boast that homosexuality is ok and acceptible,..... guess what..... What??? You are gay??"
Gay people do not bother me. I believe they have rights also. But "NO that does not make me gay".
So wrong answer pal just because you think what people say or do is sometimes right, does not in any way make you that person. "

" Rohn Gordon wrote on Oct 13, 2009 2:35 PM:
"So wrong answer pal just because you think what people say or do is sometimes right, does not in any way make you that person. """""



if you support and covet a self proclaimed bigot, then you are supporting their point of view. you're also associated with that person...sorry "pal" that's the way it works.

you righties like to call anyone a "socialist" who agrees with something our president says......it cuts both ways "pal".....wrong answer. "

" you righties like to call anyone a "socialist" who agrees with something our president says......it cuts both ways "pal".....wrong answer. "
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So you're not a socialist then, eh, Cannon Fodder Bob?

I guess then that the Chinese have significantly grown their number of billionaires means that the Chinese are communist anymore? Right? "

" Well...well...well...what do we have here?

Headline: Colorado minimum wage to drop as living costs fall

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_bi_ge/us_minimum_wage_drop

DENVER Colorado will become the first state to reduce its minimum wage because of a falling cost of living.

The state Department of Labor and Employment ordered the wage down to $7.24 from $7.28. That's lower than the federal minimum wage of $7.25, so most minimum wage workers would lose only 3 cents an hour.

Colorado is one of 10 states where the minimum wage is tied to inflation. The indexing is thought to protect low-wage workers from having flat wages as the cost of living goes up.

But because Colorado's provision allows wage declines, the minimum wage will drop because of a falling consumer price index.

It looks like at least Colorado got a clue!

I wonder when the minimum wage will drop in the Socialist Peoples Republic of Illinois (SPRI)?

I already know the answer...NEVER! "

" NeoCon Academician wrote on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM:
"So you're not a socialist then, eh,"""""



actually i am a socialist, and have been for years. i've been involved in public schools, i served in the military, i pay social security and medicare, i have a library card, i attended 2 universities, i have served on city council, i drive on public highways, i camp in state parks, i drink and bathe using city water, i even donate to our local food pantry....so yeah, i'm definitely socialist. "

" FB: "i attended 2 universites" Did you graduate? What city counsel?
Neo. beautiful. Since I'm a racist by association, going and seeing Rush Limbaugh. Not Obama's claim he is Black. 51% black, 49% white? Any science would say that is IMPOSSIBLE. "

" sorry gramps, but YOU are guilty by association.
if you condone and even boast about attending a speech by a self proclaimed racist and you listen to him and defend him as well as the other two other self proclaimed racists on fox....guess what.... "
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And you really taught in public school, did you, Harry Potter?


Well...uh...that was actually posted by father bob, Neo. lol! "

" Speaking of African Americans, Limbaugh had this pearl of wisdom:

Theyre 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares? "

" Well...uh...that was actually posted by father bob, Neo. lol! "
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And you really taught in public school, did you, Harry Potter? "

" UNEASY!? UNEASY !? You Obama clowns are getting your re-distribution of wealth you've wanted, alright...

All you OBAMAZOMBIES, make sure you read this...

Headline: Obama Dollar Retreats Most Against Commodities in Wealth Shift

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7mHS_OElufk "

" NeoCon Academician wrote on Oct 13, 2009 7:30 PM:

" Well...uh...that was actually posted by father bob, Neo. lol! "
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And you really taught in public school, did you, Harry Potter? "


Really Neo, a simple admission for your error would have sufficed. lol! "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 13, 2009 6:44 PM:
"Well...uh...that was actually posted by father bob, Neo. lol! """""



HP, neonut gets overwhelmed if there's more than one cloud in the sky. "

" GrampaC wrote on Oct 13, 2009 5:24 PM:
" FB: "i attended 2 universites" Did you graduate? What city counsel?


yes, i graduated from college, and i served on city "council" in dolton, illinois.....feel free to confirm that. "

" Parents at an elementary school in New Jersey picketed over the schools showing a video of school children singing the praises of the president. This was done during a program on Black History. What better way to illustrate how far we have come than to show a video of the first Black American to rise to the presidency? While I agree that the school should not video tape any child without written permission of the parents, I suspect that really wasn't the issue. After watching months of pot stirring by the far right, being cheer led by Fox news, this was just another way for the bigots and hate mongers to express their displeasure over Obama's presidency. "

" Leave it to Glenn Beck to take things too far. On his radio show Tuesday Beck drew a rather over-the-top analogy between, of all things, Fox News and Jewish persecution during the Holocaust. The basis for this comparison was the White House's recent criticism of Fox News' reporting, in which it called the network "the communications arm of the Republican Party" and said that its reporting style is more opinion than straight news. Beck suggested that the campaign against Fox was only the beginning of a full on assault by the Obama administration against the press.
Huffington Post-


Beck's over the top comparison was an affront to millions of Jews, who are still suffering from the despicable acts of the Nazi's in Germany. Shame on Fox news for allowing this hate monger to stay on the air. But then again, as the right wing has proven, hate sells. "

" In these troubled economic times, we must rely on the great right-wing wisdom of Sarah Palin. Here's how Palin explained the U.S. economy to Katie Couric:
"That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this position that we have been put in. Where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh, it's got to be about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade -- we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs created in the trade sector today. We've got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation."
And there you have it in a nutshell, my friends. Emphasis on the "nut." "

" Just in...

NEWSFLASH from PMSNBC:

The Screen Actors Guild just gave Barack Obama the 'Best Actor in a Comedy' award 4 his portrayal of a US President. "

" This one if for the Fox fans out there who hardly ever hear any positive news regarding the Obama administration on the so called fair and balanced network:


For the first time in more than a year, the Dow Jones Industrial Index briefly hit 10,000. While much of the economy is still languishing -- for one, unemployment hit 9.8 percent earlier this month -- the Dow has risen roughly 50 percent since March.

Whether the Dow 10,000 barrier is a good indicator of the larger economy -- or just Wall Street's recent turnaround -- is a matter for debate. Judging by the stock market alone, the economy seems to be inching its way toward a recovery.
Huffington post-

And for my friend fb, which one of the right wingers was crowing about this never happening under Obama? I'm sure it was one of Doh's many personalities, but I can't recall which one. "

" If ignorance is slavery, Harry, then Fox News is a whole darn antebellum plantation. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 14, 2009 2:48 PM:
Whether the Dow 10,000 barrier is a good indicator of the larger economy -- or just Wall Street's recent turnaround -- is a matter for debate. Judging by the stock market alone, the economy seems to be inching its way toward a recovery.
Huffington post-

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The dow finally reaching 10,000 again is a good sign and I agree with huff-n-puff that its meaning is a matter for debate.

A friend sent the following statistics to me so lets look at just a few other things to see how far we've really come in the last 10+ years...

Dow Jones industrial avg.:
3/29/09: 10,000

Today: 10,000

S&P Index:
3/29/99: 1286.37

Today: 1087.35 (@ 2:15) or down 15.53%

Nasdaq Composite:
3/29/99: 2492.84

Today: 2164.82 (@ 2:20) or down 13.16%

Gas Price:
3/29/99: $1.20/gal

Today: $2.48 or up 106.66%

Dollar index:
3/29/99: 100.8

Today: 75.4 or down 25.2%

Gold price:
3/29/99: $280/oz

Today: $1065/oz or up 280%

Silver price:
3/29/99: $5.08/oz

Today: $17.89/oz or up 252%

Oil price: (Brent crude)
3/29/99: $14.47/barrel

Today: $75.15 or up 419%

AND THE POTENTIAL REAL ECONOMIC KILLER AWARD GOES TO:

US National debt:
3/29/99: $5,647,515,438,125.67 (5.6 Trillion)

Today: $11,914,640,438,428.00 (11.9 trillion) or up 110%


With the soon to be added cap and trade, obamacare and who knows what else - our children and grandchildren will curse our generation for this mess we have let the last 20+ years of politicians make.

But the DOW reached 10,000 again.

Wonder if the 17% (U6) and growing unemployed are celebrating. "

" The Screen Actors Guild just gave Barack Obama the 'Best Actor in a Comedy' award 4 his portrayal of a US President. "

Looks like our friend Neo is taking his cue from his favorite news channel by making things up. lol!

Relax Neo, I know you were making a joke. "

" As I knew they would, Fox news is lamenting Rush's getting the boot.

One of their commentators was making the point that several pro football players had had runs in with the law. Of course she didn't mention Rush's own felony charges for illegal drug use and doctor shopping to obtain prescriptions for his drug addiction. In addition she brought up the usual right wing comments about Sharpton and Jackson by calling them rabble rousers, ignoring the fact that many call Limbaugh a rabble rouser himself.

I look for Fox and Rush himself to continue to claim this issue was about liberalism vs conservatism. It's not, the decision to drop him was based on his controversial comments on race and the problems that would no doubt occur by having such a known racist involved with the NFL.

Personally I saw his action as an attempt to get involved with the NFL as the result of getting dumped from ESPN for his incendiary and insensitive remarks about a popular player. He was totally out of line and ESPN made the right decision by firing him.

Most of the NFL owners are extremely conservative themselves, which would seem to negate the liberal vs conservative claimed by the right wing.

The NFL, like all other businesses, is about profit, and Rush, with his controversial and often inflammatory comments on racial issues, would no doubt effect that negatively.

Simply put, Limbaugh's racist words got him in trouble once again. His racists remarks may play well with his viewers, but the didn't do to well with the NFL.

On a lighter note, Jay Leno said perhaps Limbaugh merely wanted to own some blacks. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM:
" On a lighter note, Jay Leno said perhaps Limbaugh merely wanted to own some blacks. """""


now that's funny!......but an ironically accurate statement. "

" Here's what ultra conservative Larry Klayman had to say about Fox news:

....And Klayman reserves some of his harshest words for Fox News, expressing his increasing disappointment with the network, which "should really change its motto 'We report, you decide' to 'We brainwash, you decide.'"
Huffington Post-

That's what those of us the left have been saying for years, but it was nice to see a right wing zealot say the same thing. lol! "

" Rush Limbaugh is right most of the time. That's why impotent little leftist dweebs hate him. Limbaugh is hilarious and talented. It's too bad I don't often get the chance to listen to his programs. Glen Beck is pretty enlightened and entertaining, too. I love it that the annoy the people that they do. It's hilarious. "

" Another reason Americans should be uneasy about the current powers that are:

President Obama issued a little-noticed "presidential determination" Sept. 29 that delegated authority for determining whether missile and space exports should be approved for China to Commerce Secretary Gary Locke.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/inside-the-ring-2059116/

Short link:
http://tinyurl.com/yk8hm22

The Clinton administration changed the control of sales of the same types of items during his administration to Commerce and they ended up giving the Chinese technology that gave them at least a ten year leap forward in their missile technology.

It was shifted away from Commerce because of this and now Obama just gave it back.

Oh, thats right the Chinese are our friends. They would never use the technology for other purposes or share it with the Iranians or North Koreans now would they?

Sorry to interrupt the thread with something so trivial, HP can now go back to something more important like who gets to buy or not buy part of a sports team. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 14, 2009 2:48 PM:
"And for my friend fb, which one of the right wingers was crowing about this never happening under Obama? I'm sure it was one of Doh's many personalities, but I can't recall which one. """""



our little pal seedy....i see it played both sides today before settling at 9777. "

" Your porcine pontiff has been excommunicated by the NFL, right wingers. How I'll grieve for you on those long winter evenings. "

" our little pal seedy....i see it played both sides today before settling at 9777. "

I'm sure you're right, fb. I just assumed it was the resident ankle biter Doh using one of his many aliases. lol! "

" need to correct my earlier post i thought it had settled for the day:

Dow.........10,062.94....+47.08 (0.47%)
S&P 500......1,096.56.....+4.54 (0.42%)
Nasdaq.......2,173.29.....+1.06 (0.05%) "

" At a town hall event in New Orleans, President Obama took a question from a fourth-grader named Terrence who wanted to know, "Why do people hate you?"
"They're supposed to love you," he continued.
After the crowd swooned, Obama responded that the boy should take criticism of him with "a grain of salt."
"One party feels like they need to poke you, keep you on your toes," he said.
"When things are tough, you;re gonna get some of the blame," Obama said. But, he added, "I'm a tough guy. Are you a tough guy? You look pretty tough."
Now, perhaps you right wingers will want to picket the kid's school for permitting him to speak with that corrupter of youth, the president of the United States. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 15, 2009 4:41 PM:
" I just assumed it was the resident ankle biter Doh using one of his many aliases. lol! "

* he still loves me * i love you too sweety * smooch smooch * "

" Sorry to interrupt the meaningless drivel of the two stooges, but pardon a brief return to the threads topic- uneasy about those currently in power.

Our congress critters at work:

Senators diverted $2.6 billion in funds in the defense spending bill to pay for pet projects largely at the expense of accounts that pay for fuel, ammunition and training for U.S. troops, including those fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

THE SENATORS ADDED $2.6 BILLION IN PET PROJECTS and cut $4 billion more from the administration requested for fiscal 2010, which began Oct. 1.

The senators took most of the cash for their personal projects from the "operations and maintenance" or O&M accounts-the accounts that pay for troop training, repairs, spares and supplies for vehicles, weapons, ships and planes, food and fuel.

Raiding these operational accounts to fund big-ticket projects the military does not want, but that benefit senators' home states or campaign contributors, amounts to rancid gluttony.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/troop-funds-diverted-to-pet-projects/

Short link:
http://tinyurl.com/yl43362


The liberal dummy-crats surely have the citizens best interests at heart just like they are showing to our countrys troops.

There is no reason to doubt them or be uneasy is there?

Just trust them, they wont really destroy our health care and insurance industry and it is only fair that they keep their own government funded special plan, after all their special right?

Now back to the fb and Harry p show and more talk directly off the subject. . . . "

" Interesting news:

Of the four stories run on ESPN.com about Limbaughs bid for the Rams (October 6, October 12, October 15, and another October 15) none of them mention that NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith served as counsel to Attorney General Eric Holder and was a member of Barack Obamas transition team. "

" Bps wrote on Oct 15, 2009 7:40 PM:
"Senators diverted $2.6 billion in funds in the defense spending bill to pay for pet projects largely at the expense of accounts that pay for fuel, ammunition and training for U.S. troops, including those fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan."""""


i guess that's a quick way to get out of the middle east.....no cash no killing. "

" father bob wrote on Oct 16, 2009 5:01 PM:
" Bps wrote on Oct 15, 2009 7:40 PM:
"Senators diverted $2.6 billion in funds in the defense spending bill to pay for pet projects largely at the expense of accounts that pay for fuel, ammunition and training for U.S. troops, including those fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan."""""

i guess that's a quick way to get out of the middle east.....no cash no killing. "
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Well that is one way to look at it, a little perverted but again it could be true.

Just think of how many of our young people will get to learn the joy of failed equipment and lack of support, supplies and training by their gooberment so a few congress critters could buy a few more voters off in their home territories. Remind you of your own experiences in the service fb?

Hum, nothing about this to make you uneasy about our current government is there fb???? "

" Disturbing news about the governments most recent census travails:

According to a new General Accounting Office report, botched fingerprinting by ill-trained employees led to the hiring of some 36,000 census workers with insufficient background checks.

The investigators revealed that of the prints that could be processed, fingerprint results identified approximately 1,800 temporary workers (1.1 percent of total hires) with criminal records that name check alone failed to identify.

Approximately 750 were terminated or were further reviewed because the Bureau determined their criminal records which included crimes such as rape, manslaughter and child abuse disqualified them from census employment.
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Nope, these same bureaucrats wont screw up something as important as our Health Care system after the congress-critters vote for its takeover will they?

Naw, they will get it right on that one. . . . .

Gulp, our gooberment, ah nothing to be uneasy about here, right? "