" Combine this with Obama's (and several congress person's/advisor's) statements about how expensive care for seniors is and the "End of Life Counseling" in the health care bill and people wonder where the "rumor" of "death panels" and health care rationing comes from. "

" The attacks on Emanuel are a reminder that there is a narrow slice of Americans who not only don't trust government, but also have come to regard it as a dark conspirator in their lives. This peculiar brand of distrust helps create the conditions for fast-moving fear-mongering, especially on complex and emotionally charged topics like the life and death of the elderly and infirm. Prairie fires of that kind are hard to douse when the Administration's own plan for health care remains vague, weeks away from being ready for a public roll out. The health-care bill that recently passed the House does not contain, as some have suggested, any provisions that would deny treatment to the elderly, infirm or disabled. One provision allows doctors to be reimbursed for voluntary discussions of so-called living wills with patients, but does not in any way threaten to deny treatment to dying patients against their will. The legislation anticipates saving hundreds of billions of dollars by reforming the health-care system itself, a process that would try to increase the efficiency of medical care by better connecting payments to health outcomes and discouraging doctors from unnecessary tests and procedures. The Obama Administration hopes that many of these reforms will be made in the coming years by independent panels of scientists, who will be appointed by the President and overseen by Congress.
Time-

The fear mongering express rolls on, and Wright throws another log on the fire. Her letter is just another way of saying Obama wants to kill Granny, and attempts to besmirch a man who has spent a lifetime fighting for proper care for the elderly.

Just like Palin's distortions about death panels and death books by the VA. Wright's allegations are really quite easy to refute. Wright has obviously bought into the lies and distortions being put out by the Health Care industry, that is spending over a million and a half dollars a DAY trying to defeat ANY reform. "

" zombies....we'll all be ZOMBIES!!! "

" Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the medical ethicist and oncologist who advises President Obama, does not own a television, and if you catch him in a typically energized moment, when his mind speeds even faster than his mouth, he is likely to blurt out something like, "I hate the Internet." So it took him several days in late July to discover he had been singled out by opponents of health-care reform as a "deadly doctor," who, according to an opinion column in the New York Post, wanted to limit medical care for "a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy."


"I couldn't believe this was happening to me," says Emanuel, who in addition to spending his career opposing euthanasia and working to increase the quality of care for dying patients is the brother of White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. "It is incredible how much one's reputation can be besmirched and taken out of context."


It would only get worse. Within days, the Post article, with selective and misleading quotes from Emanuel's 200 or so published academic papers, went viral. Minnesota Representative Michelle Bachmann, a fierce opponent of Obama's reform plans, read large portions of it on the House floor. "Watch out if you are disabled!" she warned. Days later, in an online posting, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin attacked Emanuel's "Orwellian thinking," which she suggested would lead to a "downright evil" system that would employ a "death panel" to decide who gets lifesaving health care. By Aug. 10, hysteria had begun to take over in places. Mike Sola, whose son has cerebral palsy, turned up at a Michigan town-hall meeting to shout out concerns about what he regarded as Obama and Emanuel's plans to deny treatment to their family. Later, in an interview on Fox News, Sola held up the Post article. "Every American needs to read this," he declared.
Time-

As most people know, the NY Post is merely a printed version of Fox news, filled with half truths, lies, propaganda and sensationalism, geared towards bottom feeders and those, like most Fox fanatics, who need to be told what to think. "

" This is an incredibly misleading and unfair slur on a distinguished oncologist. Dr. Emanuel's article was expressly limited to the special case of scarce medical interventions - such as a limited supply of transplant organs or new vaccines where there there are more qualified recipients than there are donors. It says so in the very first sentence of the article. Ms. Wright deliberately chose to leave out of her post the fact that his article was limited to organ donations and scarce vaccines. In so doing, she mislead Americans seeking clarity about an important topic of current debate. Why did she decide to do that?
And, by the way, don't you think it would have been helpful if your readers had known that Dr. Emanuel was one of the leading opponents of assisted suicide. Of course, that would have blown a large hole in Ms. Wright's thesis. Better to simply mislead. "

" Yeah, Mrs. Wright. And the mad gasser is still at large and Elvis lives. "

" "Ms. Wright" - you ain't. Get your facts straight. Stop recycling lies. "

" I cannot believe how deep and wide the lies are going. The lunatics have clearly taken over the asylum on the right!! Dr. Emmanuel is a very distingished oncologist, and his writing is in reference to transplant and vaccine shortages. Not even remotely related to a policy. He has faught very hard against euthanasia, and is a very upstanding man. This is beyond anything I have ever seen. Our country has gone tribal in some parts. And the whole thing about the school speech by our president is now being called "indoctrination". Unbelievable. He is the President, and like many others before will encourage our children to work hard and stay in school. This is pure racism....Some people refuse to recognize him as speaking for our country. I suppose if I was an uneducated white person from the south [or anywhere for that matter] I might not like my children to hear from a very educated and inspiring black man. Boy is the ignorance ever going to stop? All this fear is rooted in pure racism, because they know the jig is up......the good ole days of making fun of blacks and minorities is not cool or funny anymore. It is called CHANGE! "

" RULE #1: Government is NOT the solution, Government IS the problem!

Isn't it hypocritical that all those in favor of abortion are already born?

The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

Joseph Stalin (1879 - 1953) "

" sister, you wrote down just about everything I've been thinking the past day or two. When I first read Vicky Wright's letter, I thought: Here we go, yet another person duped by an internet forward. I am glad you put Dr. Emanuel's comments in context.

The hoopla over President Obama addressing school children takes all of this to a completely new level. We actually received a call from Charleston High School telling parents they could opt their children out of the presentation if they wished to do so. How utterly ridiculous that it's come to this, that people don't want the President to address students.

I, too, believe that some people just can't deal with having a black man as President. The only thing that keeps it all from being laughable is the hatred and militancy involved. I am afraid a lot of these fringe yahoos are dangerous. "

" sister wrote on Sep 4, 2009 11:15 PM:
" And the whole thing about the school speech by our president is now being called "indoctrination". Unbelievable. He is the President, and like many others before will encourage our children to work hard and stay in school.

This is pure racism....Some people refuse to recognize him as speaking for our country.

I suppose if I was an uneducated white person from the south [or anywhere for that matter] I might not like my children to hear from a very educated and inspiring black man. Boy is the ignorance ever going to stop? All this fear is rooted in pure racism, because they know the jig is up......the good ole days of making fun of blacks and minorities is not cool or funny anymore. It is called CHANGE! "
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The racist nugget has been used by the MSM, the Democrat Leadership and even implied by the President himself in relation to just about anyone who dissents from the administrations and congresss actions.

So I want to make sure I get your condescending, racist slur right.

Is it your continuation that anyone who is concerned and speaks out about this presidents policies and actions are all racists OR are the racists just ALL the ones who are concerned about the potential content of his speech to the schools next week?

Oh and are you sure they are ALL white people or do you include any of other races and educational backgrounds who chose to speak out on this topic as racists?

Your generalizations and race based slander makes it hard to tell.

I am very interested in his speech even though as a conservative I dont care much for the policies and actions of this administration to date.

I also dont see any sense or logic in criticizing a speech before it is given because who knows he might just give a whiz banger.

It seems your continuation is that since his race is of extreme importance to at least your perception of the President and his actions, so therefore that must be true of those who oppose him?

I guess I must be thick not to understand this because to me a persons race, party or sex have nothing to do with my personal decisions about an elected officials actions and if I support or oppose them and their programs. "

" Sister and CrowWoman that is why I said in my Letter to The Editor (which curiously the powers that be chose not to display online but it was published Sept. 1) that what we are seeing are the dying screams of conservative white males, the end of white supremacy, a liberal black man has been elected president and like BPS they can't accept that 1. they are racist to begin with and 2. that it isn't racist to point out the realities of racist attitudes when they appear! "

" Oh and BPS creating and spreading lies and misinformation is NOT legitimate criticism or a responsible way to address concerns about public policy. AND intentional actions to smear the reputation of a person, derail any programs that person might put forth, is RACIST if it is done for no other reason than the person being smeared is of a color different from you. (whether you admit that is the reason why you are doing it or not)Remember I am talking about LEGITIMATE concerns and issues not lies and misinformation. "

" I don't think I bought a paper that day, Susan, but I'll have to check to make sure. I know many conservatives, my own mother being one of them, who disagree with President Obama's policies. She disagrees sanely. Disagreeing and speaking out are completely different from the frenzied and vicious attacks that have been going on since last year's presidential campaign. It is hatred, pure and simple--hatred mixed with fear. I won't even go into all the lies and distortions of the truth that seem to go along with it. As a Christian, the fact that so many of those attacking President Obama claim to be acting for God is a huge outrage.

Now, we have this nonsense about him trying to "indoctrinate" school children. Fear and hatred strike again, blowing everything out of proportion.

What I see, too, is manipulation of otherwise sensible people who refuse to look beyond the latest bit of sensationalism that's forwarded to them on the internet.

What I wonder is, what are the children of these people learning? Just who is being indoctrinated, and with what? "

" I am really not interested in calling anyone a "racist," a "Nazi," a "communist," or whatever. But the fact remains that the letter above was completely wrong almost every significan respect, and that the author has declined to step forward to defend it. "

" shumphreys wrote on Sep 6, 2009 5:00 PM:
" Oh and BPS creating and spreading lies and misinformation is NOT legitimate criticism or a responsible way to address concerns about public policy. AND intentional actions to smear the reputation of a person, derail any programs that person might put forth, is RACIST if it is done for no other reason than the person being smeared is of a color different from you. (whether you admit that is the reason why you are doing it or not)Remember I am talking about LEGITIMATE concerns and issues not lies and misinformation. "
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Shumphreys-

Let me get this right, your entire premise is that I must be a racist simply because I oppose a politicians actions?

I agree 100% that spreading lies and purposely distorting facts is in no way legitimate criticism and do not help solve a single problem.

Why do you think I make so many counter-posts here? It is to counter inaccuracies or outright distortions.

Please be so kind as to point out a single lie or piece of misinformation in my post in response to sisters post. It was straight forward and proved my point.

Of course, using generalized attacks against others from the opposition and calling them racist, uneducated, terrorists, and so on, unsupported by any facts demonstrating racist actions is also a form of lies and misinformation, is it not?

I reject your posts premise and since youre the one making the charge that I am a racist, it is your responsibility to use my posts to furnish specific acts or words of mine that are racist to support your charges.

Unless somehow you can prove you are a 100% certified mind reader, please no more of your generalizations, please use some facts coupled with logic next time.

As a conservative, it is logical that my core beliefs would be much different from the leftist-liberal views of those in charge. They also were and continue to be significantly different from the previous criminals in charge.

All of my posts directly critical of the current powers in charge have specific facts with their links supporting my premise.

They have a specific premise that is supported by links and facts from credible sources. A persons color or sex has no place in any of my decisions either to the positive or the negative.

You may disagree with them, you may find your own authorities to counter them, you can prove them wrong with logic, but when you use generalized personal attacks you prove nothing but my original point. "

" CrowWoman wrote on Sep 6, 2009 5:49 PM:

"I know many conservatives, my own mother being one of them, who disagree with President Obama's policies. She disagrees sanely."

.......

No disrespect meant, but, I'm willing to bet if she got out & attended alot more of the meetings, etc., & kept with her "sanely disagreements", yet spoke out against the President's policies, (like alot of others do), I bet she & they would still be labeled a racist in a heartbeat.

I wonder if Mr Obama would of been a Republican, if the racist labeling tool would still get plenty of use, only by the far left? "

" I hope Vicky Wright is not a nurse at our hospital. I would hate to think I might someday be under her care. She is obviously easily persuaded without doing her research. Dr. Emanuels writings has nothing to do with our current health care debate. This is a paper written on the ethics of "dire situations" in regard to a shortage of vaccine, like during a pandemic, and the shortage of people willing to be organ doners, leading Drs to have to make these DIRE decisions. Please use a little common sense. Barack Obama won the election, and people like you are willing to believe anything to not have to except that. You are just trying to delegitimize him. I cannot believe that people are proud to go on tv with no shame at all, and pray for our presidents death, cry because he might be allowed to speak to schoolchildren, carry a gun to his town hall, call him a socialist and a marxist in same sentence,[ignorant] and not a single republican in leadership position will stand up to this insanity. I consider this to be treason. It is un-American to wish evil upon our president. HAVE YOU NO SHAME!!!! it is only this president that should not be allowed to speak to our school children, but it was sure ok for Bush and Reagan?? This is our rightfully elected president, and this is how we do things here. Please find a more appropriate way to deal with your loss in the last election. "

" "I wonder if Mr Obama would of been a Republican, if the racist labeling tool would still get plenty of use, only by the far left?"

Personally, I wonder what would have happened if Colin Powell had run as a Republican candidate. Seriously, I wonder what reactions would have been from the extreme left and right.

My mother is not one who would attend a rally--at least I don't think she is! :) We are an interesting family. My mother is conservative, my father and I are more liberal, and my siblings lean too far to the right to discuss politics with--at least at family gatherings.

It seems to me the most vocal people are likely the ones who are most extreme in their views. I don't have any proof of course, but the hateful, even threatening rhetoric we've seen since last year's campaign suggests racism. (The racial slurs that surface time and again tend to suggest that.) If you're with a group spouting hatred and fear--along with misinformation--you're probably going to attract a certain label, whether or not it is justified. Right or wrong, as the old saying goes, people are known by the company they keep. "

" Bps. I just found your post. I used the term racist, because I know some of these people. I know what they say in whispers is now spread all over tv and intenet. Sarah Palin encouraged this hate speech at her rallies. Surely you are smart enough to know this. Look at where most of it is coming from.....the south. Where education and health care needs are the highest, yet they vote republican, because they vote on fear that is fed to them by republicans who couldn't care less about the poor person and his family, but he will sure scare up his vote. And by the way, that would be DEMOCRATIC leadership. Another cute little trick by you guys, not wanting us to be called democratic. It really sounds ignorant when I hear it on tv. "

" Thanks for your reply, CrowWoman - interesting & good post.

Most of my family are conservative leaning although we have voted for Democrats over the years.

Politicians are a unique bunch. They sure can bring out the best, & the worst, in people. "

" Oops oops, just caught my mistake on my earlier post....

It should of said....

"only by the far right?"

Sorry (Oh well, ya know where I was headed)
;-) "

" Cut the BS BPS. Read what I wrote than sit down and think about it. "

" As father aged he wished he been born with an off switch. I said YOU PROBABLY ROLLED OVER ON IT WHEN ONLY IN TWENTIES. He had a laugh on that one.
As he dealt with diabetes, stokes, he wasn't the man we knew. He laid for 13 years unable to move in hospital bed in nursing facility. I couldn't lift him and was getting older myself and had care of mother. Mother wanted to go to a facility as I had health problems and could not lift the 260 pounds of her.
Heart, diabetes, asthmatic problems, sleep apnea, nebulizer treatments are hard enough but I never complained on care of parents. I had no help except for little from senior citizens clean area where the parents stayed. Their idea of cooking, opening can of soup.
Most liked sit on behinds and talk to the client, and not really much help except be in way while I cooked actual meals and cleaning, and took out the trash. Cleaning bathroom was a 10 minute job to the helper. YOU and I know cannot do a cleaning of tub, stool, lavatory, floor in 10 minutes unless just a spit shine. If can get a good helper thru the STATE be glad.
Most just put in the time and get the hours. It is a shame a family member cannot be paid thru these agencies since be home with clients and not pay the mileage and other added expenses.
The family member be home for the CARE and client not sit and wait from 7a.m til afternoons wondering who will showup. For diabetics, that is a dangerous game when cannot help selves.
I have news, the disabled already suffer and has for quite sometime.
AND the caregiver agencies don't reveal how bad it has become. Can you believe one agency if person needs help on a holiday, the client has to pay $16 an hour for help?
AND these are people living on $600 or thereabouts a month. The aged and disabled needs help everyday, where are the BRAINS OF THESE EDUCATED STATE AGENCIES? Am sure when have someone two hours day maybe relatives can go to walmart but CLIENT SITTING about as good as it gets. I cannot believe the gas mileage given either,,,,,nobody pays my kids to get to jobs like that.
Last heard it is like 44 cents a mile.
I could have new car too on that.
Not all caregivers are as mentioned, but had 3 out of 4 like THAT. I know some workers who are VERY GOOD, then there are the SLACKERS. I know some of you have worked with SLACKERS on other jobs. AND WE did the WORK for them often. I prepared healthy meals trying to trim mom up and the caregiver brought her boxes of candy. AND the woman diabetic. Some help. When turned in workers was told WE DO THE BEST CAN AND HAVE HIRE WHO WE CAN SEND.
Like that should be an excuse? "

" The point of this irrational attack on Obama's speech to school children is the same point that's behind the equally irrational "birther" movement. It's a fascist, racist drumbeat repeating the sotto voce message, "Obama IS NOT and CANNOT BE the legitimate president of the United States." There is nasty method in this madness. "

" sister wrote on Sep 6, 2009 10:35 PM:
" Bps. I just found your post. I used the term racist, because I know some of these people. I know what they say in whispers is now spread all over tv and intenet. Sarah Palin encouraged this hate speech at her rallies. Surely you are smart enough to know this. Look at where most of it is coming from.....the south. Where education and health care needs are the highest, yet they vote republican, because they vote on fear that is fed to them by republicans who couldn't care less about the poor person and his family, but he will sure scare up his vote. And by the way, that would be DEMOCRATIC leadership. Another cute little trick by you guys, not wanting us to be called democratic. It really sounds ignorant when I hear it on tv. "
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Sister- I understand your viewpoint but my only real problem with your post was in convicting everyone within a very broad group because they are part of that particular group. That is why I framed my reply as I did.

When they act like the Democratic party of Trumans and JFKs time then I will call them by that name. Until then they will be the Democrats to me.

The good news is the pre-release of the Presidents speech is now available and it appears he is going to give a very good speech:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

As I said in the middle of my reply to your post, it makes no sense to pre-judge even a speech based upon pre-conceptions of an individual or his group (which ever side youre on- works for people also). "

" From Kaiser Health News-

BROAD AND BALANCED PROTECTION FOR ALL AMERICANS

Upon adoption of appropriate Federal and State legislation, the Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan would offer to every American the same broad and balanced health protection through one of three major programs:

--Employee Health Insurance, covering most Americans and offered at their place of employment, with the cost to be shared by the employer and employee on a basis which would prevent excessive burdens on either;

--Assisted Health Insurance, covering low-income persons, and persons who would be ineligible for the other two programs, with Federal and State government paying those costs beyond the means of the individual who is insured; and,

--An improved Medicare Plan, covering those 65 and over and offered through a Medicare system that is modified to include additional, needed benefits.
One of these three plans would be available to every American, but for everyone, participation in the program would be voluntary.

The benefits offered by the three plans would be identical for all Americans, regardless of age or income. Benefits would be provided for:
--hospital care;
--physicians' care in and out of the hospital;
--prescription and life-saving drugs;
--laboratory tests and X-rays;
--medical devices;
--ambulance services; and,
--other ancillary health care

Oh yeah, and this plan is from 1974 and was proposed by none other than Richard Nixon. Unfortunately, I think it might have been a diversion from all the attention a certain breakin and cover up that occurred during those times. Sort of a wag the dog deal. But probably about the closest any Republican will ever come to real health care reform. If health care reform is to happen, I think the President is going to have to get his party on board and push it through without any support from the party of no. But just like the stimulus money, they will run home to try to take credit. Can we ever for Jindal's picture of the oversized check presentations in Louisiana? "

" VICKY, gotta question. If DR DEATH (hey, that name isn't loaded with implications, right?!) gets his way and legislated euthanasia, will you as a nurse abide by it?

No.

This is a pointless exercise meant to scare the crap out of people, VICKY. People would be utterly outraged by forced euthanasia (you as a nurse know that your coworkers wouldn't stand for it).

Congratulations. You tell good scary stories before bedtime. Hope you're not telling your patients. "

" Once again Fox news gets their lemmings all worked up. What a shame it is for the president of the US to give a pep talk to our school kids about studying hard, staying in school and succeeding. Only on Fox will you hear this idea being called indoctrination. Wonder what their stance was when Bush addressed our nations school kids. I saw where the Loonytoons Glen Beck claimed Obama was using this idea to indoctrinate our kids in Socialist ideas. I'm glad CNN got rid of Beck, he has no place on a legitimate newsoutlet, but fits right in at Fox. Absolutely incredible.

And I see where Fox is now evaluating other networks coverage of current events, perhaps the other networks should critique Fox for it's 24/7 bashing of our president. "

" Talking about getting all worked up, I just saw the video of the AZ pastor praying for Obama's death and using the Bible to justify it. The Baptist pastor's uplifting message included, "I hope that God strikes Obama with brain cancer so he can die like Ted Kennedy. You know, and I hope it happens today."

This info has probably already been posted somewhere, but I hadn't realized that the guy who showed up at the Obama Town Hall mtg. with an assault rifle was one of Anderson's parishioners.

This is part of a January 18, s009 sermon by "Pastor" Anderson:

"Let me tell you something - somebody needs to abort Barack Obama. It's true. Now, I'm not to do it. I'm not saying vigilanteism. I'm not saying that somebody should go kill. I'm saying there should be a government in this country that, you know, under God's authority, that takes Barack Obama and aborts him. On television. For everybody to see in the whole world.

Did you hear me ?

Now, I'm not saying I'm going to do it. I'm not a vigilante. But I'm going to tell you something - if there was any justice in this country, if the judicial branch of this country meant ANYTHING they would take Barack Obama and all of his colleagues and take them and they would abort him. They would melt him like a snail. That's what they - they'd break the teeth out of his head, my friends..."

This is the type of hate speech I was talking about. I believe that even more subtle expressions of hate can be just as dangerous. I would certainly like to hear more conservatives distance themselves from the non-stop spewing of venom, lies, and simple irrationality. "

" It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. "

" Actually Sister the attackers on Obama (i.e. the sources of the lies and misinformation)are very rational, very intelligent and in my opinion quite sick. They know that lies planted in the right places (FOX news, Sara Palin) grow and spread like a virus. They also have their reasons, their is a motive behind their madness AND that should be of concern to SANE people. Racism is a part of this but there is more to it than just racism. "

" Oops--I see The Question discussed the godly Reverend Anderson on another thread. Sorry--I'm running a week or two behind, as usual....

Susan, I agree--clever people like Sarah Palin know exactly what they're doing when they make inflammatory speeches designed to manipulate their audiences. I was going to say that people like Anderson take it to a whole new level, but it's obvious either one of them could stir their more unbalanced listeners to action.

We've only heard about Anderson and a couple of other church leaders praying for Obama's death. I wonder how many of them are out there that we don't know about yet? "

" CrowWoman, like you I am appalled when I see people who claim to be spiritual leaders spew hate. Every time the subject of homosexually comes up on this site the hate mongers come out in droves. An ironically they use the bible to justify their hatred. Some of those so called preachers have a new target in our current president. "

" (AP) WASHINGTON Former first lady Laura Bush on Monday expressed support for President Barack Obama's decision to speak to the nation's school children, saying it is "really important for everyone to respect the president of the United States."


The former first lady joins Newt Gingrich and the head of the Florida GOP in seeing the value of Obama's speech to our school children.

Apparently they're not buying into the story Fox news is pushing that this is merely political indoctrination.

Once again, Fox news goes beyond reporting the news and continues with it's anti-administration assault.

I think conservative Republican Joe Scarborough said it best this morning with his comments that the fringe element of his party is merely attacking this program purely on a partisan basis. While he didn't mention Fox news directly, I think his intent was obvious. "

" "Dr." EZ-kill Emanuel has earned his criticisms. He's a kook. "

" HP....why in the world would someone want their child to do well in school? learning study skills, applying oneself, minding and respecting parents and teachers is surely a socialist agenda.

sadly, i can understand why coles county residents don't want their children to succeed. ignorance begets ignorance, and they don't want to lose control of their toddling little dolts. "

" On Thursday, Fox News mouth Neil Cavuto repeatedly complained to Democratic strategist Taylor West that President Obama giving $85 billion in tax breaks to low and middle income families was somehow letting them get away without paying their "fair share." As you know, Cavuto cheered himself hoarse for the Bush tax cuts for billionaires, as did the rest of the Fox News propaganda mouths.
This shows you whose interest Fox News serves. It isn't yours. "

" Harry, did Pres. Obama change his speech over the weekend when concerns were raised as to its propriety? I believe Laura Bush and Mr Gingrich made their statements after the speech was changed. Not that it matters but I agree with their endorsememts. "

" Is this written by the Mattoon CUSD #2 Head school Nurse? "

" " Harry, did Pres. Obama change his speech over the weekend when concerns were raised as to its propriety?

From what I've read, no. What was changed was the suggested accompanying work lessons. The speech was presented as originally written. I know that Fox news is crowing over this issue and claiming he changed the speech because of the ranting lunatic, Glen Beck, but the white house says no. In my opinion Fox doesn't have a good track record for getting it right, so I'll take the word of the White House. "

" You know CrowWoman that old Jim Jones guy you know the one who moved his followers to Ghana and had them drink that poisoned coolaid. He is beginning to look sane compared to some current preachers. I hadn't heard about that AZ preacher and I am amazed, what will they think of next. Will they be surprised when they end up you know where rather than heaven? "

" Usually I lurk, but I had to come out and speak up, especially about this "book burning-like" episode of censorship of OUR President's speech!(another thread).

I agree with Harry about most things - especially about Joe Scarborough. I really like his panel in the morning. Usually it is extremely balanced, and you hear all sides without the typical screaming radicals (on both sides!). Joe seems to me to be the reasonable voice of the Republicans. One morning he had a great guest on who gave an impassioned proposal for healthcare which sounded great on every front. Because Joe is a Republican, he just couldn't bring himself to agree with the guy - and couldn't come up with one single argument against the plan, just "I don't agree with you" - but then invited him back! (maybe there's hope for him yet?). The basic premises of the Republican party of "keep all the money to myself" will never see eye-to-eye with Dems, and that's ok ideologically, as long as we can keep our wits about us and talk openly and calmly, as he does on the show.

BRAVA LAURA BUSH! I couldn't believe her comments. Y'know, she just went up 1,000 notches in respect in my book (not just for putting up with Jr!) because she was reinforcing the values I think all Americans should have...respecting the office of the president. What a radical idea - supporting your country! "

" I had no more problem with Obama addressing school children than I did with other presidents doing the same. I'm glad President Obama realized the follow-up questions were a bit much and nixed them. "

" Traveling Circus wrote on Sep 9, 2009 8:32 AM:
"BRAVA LAURA BUSH! I couldn't believe her comments. Y'know, she just went up 1,000 notches in respect in my book (not just for putting up with Jr!) because she was reinforcing the values I think all Americans should have...respecting the office of the president. What a radical idea - supporting your country! """""


i have to agree. and i also like morning joe.....the only guy who puts a bad spin on the show is pat buchanan. i've never seen a more mindless wingnut. poor pat still lives in the goldwater time warp. "

" Yes EVEN STEVEN, when Obama does something you agree with, then and only then does it smell of reasoned discourse.

Puh-lease.

Btw, why you have to hate just because Ezekiel Emanuel is so successful? Don't like when people pull themselves up by their bootstraps? "

" Well, Mrs. Wright, in addition to the lies and misrepresentations in this letter, it's "a sad irony" that you are presenting yourself as nurse leaving the reader to fill in the blanks of your professional environment.

Did you do this intentionally? I have to wonder how often a school nurse has the opportunity to be present and in the room "when the physician tells a parent that their infant should be left to die."

God help us all. "

" Sister wrote: It is un-American to wish evil upon our president." I hope you thought the same when they were calling Bush Hitler and making movies about his assassination. "