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Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:44 PM CDT
LETTER: Approach FutureGen with more caution



DONALD L. OSBORNE, Mattoon

What impact will FutureGen have? I live four miles from Lenders and I can tell you if they are making blueberry bagels when the wind is from the west.

What will we smell every day with FutureGen? The people living in Lane Acres, Circle Drive, and Western Avenue should pay attention as well as anyone interested in the safety of the students at Riddle Elementary School.

FutureGen will consume hundreds of box cars of coal every day and use as much water as the entire City of Mattoon. By-products will include mercury, arsenic and lead as well as Carbon Dioxide and flammable and explosive gases like hydrogen and oxygen. Also slag, and ash is a consideration.

They claim to only be able to capture 60 percent to 90 percent of the carbon dioxide which they will inject underground at the rate of 1.9 tons per minute. They intend to do this for 30 to 50 years. The liquid carbon dioxide injected beneath our feet will equal between 60 billion and 250 billion pounds by that time. (One to two and a half million tons per year.)

But 10 percent to 40 percent of the total won’t be captured? Where will it go? Breathing air containing 30 percent carbon dioxide is lethal in a short time. Concentrations as low as 10 percent will make you sick. Even if the cap rock holds for eternity, one sixty second spill at the point of injection would yield 1.9 tons of liquid that would evaporate and displace around 20,000 cubic feet of air with 100 percent carbon dioxide gas.

Clean coal? Near zero emissions? Hype and fantasy.

In our area the prevailing wind is from the Northwest. With a 20 mile an hour wind, if anything goes wrong at the plant people on the west end of Mattoon will know in three minutes. If there is nothing to worry about then why absolve FutureGen of liability and use the adjective “experimental” to describe the plant?

Why do most of us remember names like Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, Bhopal India, the Love Canal or Lake Nyos? (Or Young’s Radiator?) Things can go wrong.

Mattoon needs jobs. Mattoon does not necessarily need FutureGen. We should keep our eyes wide open and tone down the high-fives until we approach this with the caution it deserves.

DONALD L. OSBORNE

Mattoon


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JWT wrote on Aug 28, 2009 8:48 AM:

" Come on Don. Can't we just forget about the environment? Who needs food and water. And I've always wanted a black tar sludge pool.
Plus Mattoon needs the hand full of jobs that will probaly be filled by outsiders. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 28, 2009 11:03 AM:

" I really don't think it will never happen. Two of the major backers bailed out and with the economy the way it is, I don't they will be anyone else interested. I'm sure Angela will be milking this one for all she can right up till Social Security kicks in for her, which appears to be right around the corner. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 28, 2009 11:04 AM:

" Oopsie!.. make that ever happen. "

INVICTA wrote on Aug 28, 2009 12:51 PM:

" Sorry to dissapoint Harry but one of the most poorly kept secrets in Mattoon today is an announcement about FutureGen on Sept. 2nd. Every one I run into says "Pssst...Hear about the big FutureGen announcement?" A fellow even e-mailed me from Sidney asking if it was true. A lot of big dogs will roam the streets of Mattoon then from what I hear. "

Mike P wrote on Aug 28, 2009 8:05 PM:

" How do you think people will like the taste of post futuregen bagels, or organic meat slaughtered within a few miles of a slag heap builder?

Our normal summers of hot humid weather, will impact how emmissions collect and disipate, or don't.

Did greenpeace figue out who owns the site, so they can come back on sept 2, without a bunch of community leader reps running around for hours with their heads tucked under their shirt tails? "

soybeanpod wrote on Aug 29, 2009 7:00 AM:

" And no one in authority has answered my question. If it is so safe, why do they need protection from liability?? "

Mattoon Resident wrote on Aug 29, 2009 7:15 AM:

" Welcome FutureGen "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 29, 2009 9:35 AM:

" You might just be right, INVICTA. I hope not, but you seem to have more inside dope than most on this site, especially when it comes to the underhanded shenanigans of the public works director.

For soybeanpod: That is about the best question that has come up. The answer, I think, is because this is an experiment and there is probably a high risk, so the investors don't want to assume any liability if a disaster hits. Future generations will be stuck with the clean up bill if this happens. Sort of like the millions it costs the taxpayers to pay for the Western Lion dump a while back. By the way the owner of that fiasco is back in business, while we're stuck with the bill to clean up his mess.

Mike P mentions slag, so perhaps this is Wortman's street maintenance supply for the future.

Mattoon Resident says "welcome FutureGen". Yeah, welcome to the next Young's Radiator eyesore.

For a 100 jobs, the powers to be are willing to sell out our children's health and safety. "

what? wrote on Aug 29, 2009 10:21 PM:

" They're approaching us as a bunch gullible rubes, I think we should send on their way with a swift kick in the caboose. "

what? wrote on Aug 29, 2009 10:54 PM:

" If futuregen is implemented and they do what they say they intend to, it will prove to be one of the major catastrophies of the twenty first century, and were only nine years into it. "

Mama says wrote on Aug 30, 2009 1:01 AM:

" FUTUREGEN is a lot like on/off back on,and I heard meeting suppose to take place has on telephones so when go to Sept 2nd meeting, things smoothout. I never swallow the MAYBES, IFS, lived too long and too old to believe in all hear, see, and in the END is where we KNOW. Usually in taxpayers behinders.
Only thing WE SEE, HEAR, and KNOW is how criminals walk in Coles County.
Maybe Penny and her HONDA can monitor all incoming FUTUREGENS and sort them out for the rest of us. hehe.


Maybe we can send Futuregen to Iraq
and take care of those people for us,
and bring the troops home. "

The Question wrote on Aug 30, 2009 5:38 AM:

" And no one in authority has answered my question. If it is so safe, why do they need protection from liability??
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The answer is, it isn't safe not safe enough that they would bet their own precious millions on it. "

what? wrote on Aug 31, 2009 12:12 AM:

" Liability my arse, we're offering you nearly a hundred janatorial jobs for crying out loud. "

INVICTA wrote on Aug 31, 2009 8:24 AM:

" â– FROM FUTUREGEN'S OWN WEB PAGE.....
FutureGen is described as a near-zero emissions plant. What will the actual emissions be?
The first-of-its-kind FutureGen plant will integrate advanced technologies for coal gasification, electricity production, emissions control, CO2 capture and permanent storage, and hydrogen production at a commercial scale. During normal operations, emissions will be as low as, if not lower than virtually any other coal plant in the world. However it should be noted that there may be criteria emissions, such as NOx, SO2, and particulates, when the plant is starting up and shutting down. An important element of the FutureGen project is to develop during its operation and testing, new and innovative ways to minimize emissions during these transient events. "

Rohn Gordon wrote on Aug 31, 2009 1:00 PM:

" Hey come on guys. Just think we might have black snow. "

even steven wrote on Sep 1, 2009 1:33 PM:

" Futuregen is based on the previous Energyplex coal gasification plant that was killed for political reasons back in 1978. Fears of slag and other pollutants from this project are unfounded. It is to be hoped that Futuregen is just the first of many such facilities to be built in the area to take advantage of the huge coal reserves in this part of the state. "

INVICTA wrote on Sep 2, 2009 6:50 PM:

" even steven wrote...Fears of slag and other pollutants from this project are unfounded.

You funny dude. Almost as funny as a city government who won't let people burn branches from their yard because of smoke and yet they WELCOME a plant who will dump 10 to 40% of 1 million tons a year of carbon dioxide up wind of the town. Justification for picking the location for this plant is unfounded. "

what? wrote on Sep 2, 2009 11:01 PM:

" god bless futuegen it's the way out right? "

Patches wrote on Sep 3, 2009 5:33 PM:

" Tim Johnson Has Helped This Area better than any other congressman. Bar None!!! "

HardwoodFan wrote on Sep 4, 2009 2:29 PM:

" The location of this project is recognized as one of the 4 best areas in the state of Illinois for harnessing wind power....no harmful emissions or smells. Think green. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 4, 2009 8:20 PM:

" Patches wrote on Sep 3, 2009 5:33 PM:

" Tim Johnson Has Helped This Area better than any other congressman. Bar None!!!

Not saying you're wrong, Patches, but what exactly has he done for this area? "

 


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