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Friday, July 24, 2009 8:51 PM CDT
LETTER: Aunt objects to band's behavior at Bagelfest

DONNA J. BEAN, Mattoon

I’m 32 years old I don’t drink and I don’t smoke I live my life pretty straight-edged. I attended Saturday nights event for the Zac Brown Band at the request of my two nieces one age nine and one age twelve. They both love the song “Chicken Fried.” At the beginning of the show my two nieces wish to take photos of the band. They went to the front of the stage area and was pushed and shoved numerous times by many adults who had been drinking.

The next statement I’m about to make concerns the “entertainment” Zac Brown Band. Now as I previously mentioned my nieces and I attended this show at their high regard for the band. The music was more reggae/pop rock/soul then country. Where is the country in that? I know Brad Paisley has a song about the older stars not being played because they are “too country” but I would rather have too country then no country at all.

The tacky disgusting words used in their songs quickly made us leave early, a waste of $75. They didn’t even get the opportunity to hear “Chicken Fried” do to the disappointment of the words being expressed on stage. My feelings are drink your beer and use your use swear words in a bar. Don’t make a festivity out of drinking beer and cussing in front of impressionable children.

Now to tell you how my two nieces felt who adored this band until this evening. My nine year old niece on the way home said “Every adult with a child should request their money back.” My twelve year old niece said “We should hire entertainers with experience in family entertainment.”

With all of these statements being made I hope the hiring committee takes a long hard look at how this event is being run and hire entertainers who are family oriented. Until Bagelfest can clean up and hire the entertainment we used to have such as Oak Ridge Boys, Tracy Byrd, Josh Turner. Then maybe we shouldn’t even have the event.

DONNA J. BEAN

Mattoon

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devilishangel61401 wrote on Jul 25, 2009 12:33 AM:

" Donna I am so sorry to read that you and your neices had such a bad exprience. I have never heard of this band, but I do agree with what you said about the cussing and the beer drinking being inapproirate around children. Bagelfest is supposed to be "family fun," "family entertainment" If this festival is geared towards the whole family then why do we need a beer tent? There are plenty of bars in both Mattoon and Charleston for adults to go to where they can cuss and drink. Alcohol has no place at all at a festival where kids are going to be present. I have never understood the need for beer at ballparks, race tracks, or carnivals. People take their children to those places for family outings, if you want to drink your beer, then watch the race or ballgame at home or at a local bar. I know a few years ago my daughter and I went to "High School Musical on ice" with her then girl scout troop and I was shocked to see the venue selling beer. I asked one guy selling it "what is the purpose of selling booze at a show like this that is obviously geared towards kids, that is just inviting irresponsible behaivor on the parts of the adults present." His reply was " well ma'mm we need to make money all of our venue events have beer avalible and we just expect people to use good judgement." I was just floored by that, I mean if something is geared towards kids as obviously High School Musical anything is, or is touted as "family fun" the way Bagelfest is then there is just no need to have beer avalible. I think those that run Bagelfest really need to take a look at how things are being ran or at least being advertised. "

kahamaco wrote on Jul 25, 2009 7:27 AM:

" I will be the first to stick up for this band. I was at the concert, right up by the stage, and absolutely loved it! These guys are true musicians. They sound exactly the same live as they do on any cd, which is rare in the music industry anymore, and their instrumental abilities are amazing! No, some of their songs may not be the most kid friendly, but the gentlemen in the group are by no means children, and have every right to sing whatever lyrics they like. Are you a country music fan? I ask because a lot of their songs are not so much about the lyrics as they are about the actual music. They have a very blue grassy foundation to their music. Yes, their is also, a rock, reggae, and bluesy sound, but thats one reason this band is making such a huge statement. They have a new, original sound that people really like. For the most part I see nothing wrong with the songs they played, and feel that maybe you are being a tad bit over-sensitive. Which songs offended you so greatly? I am close to your age, 29, and have 3 children of my own, who love this band as well. We listen to their CD regularly in the car. No, my children weren't with me at the concert, I attended with my husband and a group of friends, but I saw several other children there, who along with their parents, have no complaints about the great show we all saw either.
Had you heard any of Zac Brown Band's other music before attending the show? Maybe you should have done your homework a little better before "wasting" your $75. It's too bad you couldn't enjoy yourself like so many others did, but it sounds like you need to lighten up a bit. My husband is not a huge fan of going to concerts, but we both agreed that we will definitely pay to see this band again. They are a great country band (and yes, they are country) with a very bright future ahead of them. "

pj1983 wrote on Jul 25, 2009 7:35 AM:

" don't blame the band for your lack of foresight. if you're not aware of the entertainment's persona and music, you should research it before shelling out $75 for tickets. i don't think the zac brown band is any worse than anyone else out there. country songs are generally about drinkin, making love or being heartbroken. is tracy byrn any better? the first two songs i thought of by him are 10 rounds with jose cuervo and drinkin bone. now that's fun family entertainment :) "

medic57 wrote on Jul 25, 2009 12:57 PM:

" Let that be a hard lesson learned, live shows are very seldom like recorded music you hear on the radio and the FCC has control over. "

CHILL! wrote on Jul 25, 2009 1:13 PM:

" Agree 100%! When Bagelfest turns Trashy, it's time to TRASH IT! No More BagelFest! Obviously the organizers of such absurdity have no morals, thus it is no longer a family event, Trash it and get some Clean Healthy alternatives in organizing real fun for families! :) "

medic57 wrote on Jul 25, 2009 4:07 PM:

" A couple of years ago, Teri Clark was the performer, in the 1st 5 minutes, she made the mistake og saying GD during her show, about 300 people got up and waliked away. Enteretainers have a resposibility to their crowd to act like decent people, especially when there are children around. "

Kimmey wrote on Jul 25, 2009 10:43 PM:

" Maybe u needed to ck into it before u made the purchace of tickets the adult thing to do! It happen to me when i took my son to a concert once no one fault but mine! "

theproletariat87 wrote on Jul 25, 2009 11:41 PM:

" The band was known for being ruckus, then you shouldn't of had them go see them. Two bands you name off alienate the people who may not want to listen to wholesome country. It should be a mixture of genres and listed times so you can take your kids away from language you can't hide them from anyways. Its personal choice this world has become obsessed with political correctness, just killing free speech. "

das wrote on Jul 26, 2009 1:51 AM:

" If you want entertainment with morals, go to the gospel night. Not everyone believes or lives the same as you, so they shouldn't have to cater to your exact needs. If you don't like it, don't go. If it wasn't for the beer tent, Bagel Fest would not be having the "big names" come to perform the past few years in it's existence. "

Rockin Rotty wrote on Jul 26, 2009 1:59 AM:

" It's called self-discipline & self-control.

Take away the shock value, it becomes common place.

Common place becomes a natural part of life.

Do we want this as a common way of life?

I think not. "

laveau wrote on Jul 26, 2009 3:09 AM:

" Ok, first of all, make a note to self people. When trashing someone else in the newspaper for all the town to see....make sure your letter doesn't look and sound like it was written by an illiterate 6-year old with grammatical errors and run-on sentences.
2nd, you took your precious darlings to a concert 15 feet away from a BEER TENT and are complaining about the beer and drunk people? Seriously? Perhaps you should have had a little more common sense and told the kids they were too young for that sort of event if you were concerned about the "trashy" language. People have been complaining about the beer tent every year for YEARS. Was it a surprise that the big tent was selling (GASP) beer?
3rd, the Oak Ridge Boys are old and they suck. They had MAYBE 2 decent songs, and the rest of us don't want to hear "Elvira" in person so we can sing along. Eek.
4th, and certainly not least, if you think the Zac Brown Band is out of line for "trashy" talk, you are obviously not the country fan you claim to be. If you really did love the old school, outlaw country you would have grown up listening to David Allen Coe, Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash like I did. And if you did really grow up listening to that old school country you apparently didn't listen to any of the lyrics. David Allen cusses more than ship full of sailors, Willie smokes enough dope to kill a small horse and Johnny Cash was arrested for narcotics possession.
To make my long story short...if you want to hear gospel take the kiddies to church, not 15 feet from a beer tent.
P.S. That big, colorful, lit up area with all the rides was for kids. I didn't see alot of 40-somethings on the tilt-a-whirl for a reason. Rides=kids. Beer-tent=adults. "

AnnaNiemaus wrote on Jul 26, 2009 9:35 AM:

" pj1983 is exactly right; you should know what kind of concert you're taking kids to.

And you can bet your bottom dollar the 12-year-old has already been exposed to this kind of behavior, unless she lives in a bubble. The nine-year-old probably has too.

You KNOW there is a beer tent at Bagelfest; did you think it was there so that people would not drink? And people don't have to be drinking to act or speak inappropriately. I hope you don't take those kids to the Coles County Fair; there is all kinds of riffraff walking around the midway. And I'm not even talking about the carnies.

You can't control what other people do, but you can control what lessons the kids learn from the experience. "

medic57 wrote on Jul 26, 2009 11:07 AM:

" DONNA

Baglefest died when the beer tent was allowed in. "

kahamaco wrote on Jul 26, 2009 1:22 PM:

" Performers have a responsibility to bring themselves and the music they play to the crowd that wants to see them. They have a responsibility to be themselves and true to their roots. Which the Zac Brown Band very much is. Everything is not always sunshine and roses and goody goody happy warm hearted fuzzy feelings. Sure the band is a little rough around the edges, I think that's part of the draw to them. They make no excuses and there are no false pretenses. If you don't like their music and the things they have to say, don't go. It really is that simple. Maybe everyone should quit whining about the beer and the language and blah blah blah, and take a little bit of responsibility for themselves and found out a little more about the group before you spent your money and went to the show. A little research might have saved you from your disappointment. All the lyrics to all their music is available for every one to see right on their web site. Donna, maybe if you had bothered to check around a bit, you would have discovered this, and would have known that this was something you would rather not take your nieces to. It's kind of pathetic you are all so quick to be offended and shun the Bagelfest planning committee. They obviously did something right, since the ball was packed and I believe the majority of people in attendance had a great time. Come on, seriously, lets all grow up and act like the grown ups that we are. What exactly do you hope to get accomplished with all the silly whining and finger pointing? "

HisChild wrote on Jul 26, 2009 2:40 PM:

" They belonged in a bar that is known for that sorta thing, not at BagelFest! Come on you guys who organized this band for a family event...have you no morals or sense of common decency? We think BagelFest should continue, but the people in charge need to be replaced with parents who understand public family events versus drunken bar events. "

FinsUp! wrote on Jul 26, 2009 2:48 PM:

" Lighten up! My kids are subjected to much worse language during a simple trip to WalMart! A shopping trip is not complete without walking past the "f-bomb" being dropped by WalMart customers young and old. Not to mention the aisle where beer is sold (insert sarcasm) and the clouds of cigarette smoke that we have to walk through just to get in the door. I found the Zac Brown Band to be much less offensive and much less expensive than a typical trip to the big W! "

radiodj3 wrote on Jul 26, 2009 6:48 PM:

" As an entertainer myself, I understand this womans position. I have shows that are family based and i am selective in what i say and what i play. You should always research the artist you are going to see and make your decision based upon that. However, i do agree it is up to the artist to decide if he/she/they plays or says questionable lyrics or statements "

Old Grumpy wrote on Jul 26, 2009 6:59 PM:

" Donna, you need to wake up and smell the roses. As several posters have said, if YOU had done a little homework you would not have been so disappointed. We sat several rows away from the stage and enjoyed the show without any problems. Why not take your nieces to a Lawrence Welk concert? "

pork chop wrote on Jul 26, 2009 7:41 PM:

" boooooooo hoooooooo! country music sux! the problem with people like you is they're always trying to tell other people how to live or act. if you didn't like, LEAVE! "

just watching wrote on Jul 26, 2009 8:23 PM:

" $75.00 that would buy a small bag of groceries..........Probably sponsored by the same people that put on that block wide, drunk beer fest, by the catholic church every year.Next day a couple of hell mary's and your good to go. "

Beaches wrote on Jul 26, 2009 9:21 PM:

" Donna:

I'm sorry your evening was a disappointment. We have children, and went to Bagelfest for the first time in a long time. The rides seemed better than a couple years ago, and the crowd a little better behaved. We try to go early in the evening when our children are with us. We haven't gone to see the entertainment in years - we aren't into country music much, and we are very selective as to what we take our children too. My understanding is that the concert really isn't a child's event, that is why it is fairly late in the evening. I'm sorry you felt your money was wasted. "

Equalizer wrote on Jul 26, 2009 9:22 PM:

" Rockin Rotty wrote on Jul 26, 2009 1:59 AM:
" It's called self-discipline & self-control.

Take away the shock value, it becomes common place.

Common place becomes a natural part of life.

Do we want this as a common way of life?

I think not. "

AGREED! COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE FOR BAGELFEST! SOMEONE ELSE WAS RIGHT N ALSO SAYING THAT BAGELFEST DIED WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE BEER TENT IN! GROW UP, IT'S FOR EVERYONE ESPECIALLY FAMILIES, WANT FOUL LANGUAGE & DRUNKS< GO TO THE BARS, NOT TO A FAMILY EVENT!!!!! "

citizenofmattoon wrote on Jul 27, 2009 7:01 AM:

" Isn't it strange, how there are so manY people who leave posts on here about the Baglefest BEER TENT? There are so many people complaining about it (the beer tent)^%*&#$@( and it doesn't seem to matter about what we as citizens of mattoon think. IF IT MAKES MONEY FOR THE CITY (in anyway) GO FOR IT.
I have always thought that Baglefest was suppose to be a family affair, I guess I now stand corrected. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 27, 2009 8:30 AM:

" While it's true that people do stupid things and act like idiots when they get drunk, the real issue is money. The beer tent is merely a means to and end. It's a given that people lose their inhibitions and spend money in a foolish way when they drink too much. The beer tent has accomplished it's purpose, which was to get folks intoxicated so they would spend more money. The folks running these types of events show know that. Sad, but true. "

medic57 wrote on Jul 27, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Actually, drinking is illegal in all public parks and streets, there used to be a no alcohol sign when entering Peterson Park, According to Kurt Stretch, they took it down to repaint it some years ago, co-incidently, it was the first year of the beer tent. It never re-appeared, must be to busy mowing to paint. The Beer tent should also not be allowed at the Catholic Shindig either, as per no drinking in the streets, you wanna see if they enforce that law? try crossing the sidewalk while mowing your yard with a beer in your hand. As far as drinking goes, do I drink, yup, just not in Beer Tents, I find them way overpriced, and almost always, a fight will break out. Happens almost every time you mix Men, Women and Booze. "

Collatine wrote on Jul 27, 2009 9:51 AM:

" Tell you what... when you holier than thou types boycott Walmart and County Market for selling beer, then I'll believe your sincerity regarding the beer tent. (I thought Walmart is supposed to be a family store???)

Also, since when is enjoying a drink anti-family? In fact, there's nothing more Christian than enjoying a kegger with family and friends - as Jesus' first miracle proved.

As for the complaint about the Zac Brown Band, many great comments about great of a show they put on. Especially with the cooperation of the weather, this was the best Bagelfest I can remember - except for when I allowed my little daughter to drag me on one of those spinning rides... ugh! :-) "

Texas T wrote on Jul 27, 2009 10:20 AM:

" I have to say that I am impressed by Donna's nieces and glad that they were offended by their surroundings. Good for them. I agree with what Rotty said.
Take away the shock value, it becomes common place.
Common place becomes a natural part of life.
Do we want this as a common way of life?
I think not. " "

pj1983 wrote on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 AM:

" i don't understand why people are railing against the beer tent. it's a great money maker and probably the only reason the committee can get half-way decent performers to come to the event. have there been documented incidents at bagelfest due to people from the beer tent? "

Big T wrote on Jul 27, 2009 11:27 AM:

" I am under the impression that the monies raised in the beer tent are used to support the American Legion Baseball Programs. The guys raise money in alot of different ways, this is one. It is rather expensive to run the program, and it pays off. Many of the young men involved receive many scholarships for college through the program. "

outsider wrote on Jul 27, 2009 11:33 AM:

" First off, you are not going to be able to please everyone. I heard that Zac Brown had the biggest draw that some Bagelfest goers had ever seen. Are you going to tell that many people how morally corrupt they are because they enjoyed the concert?? The concerts are held later in the evening for the adult entertainment. Fairs/festivals/carnivals are for all to enjoy.not just kids or those with kids. Why not have the parade in the evening hours after the sun goes down..it would have been much cooler?? Why not have the concert in the afternoon, so people dont have to stay up so late?? Events are planned according to the audience it is designed for. As far as your wholesome countryI would challenge you to name 5 TOP country artists (now or then) that dont have some questionable songs in their arsenal of hits. Country is about loving, leaving, drinking, dying, partying. When you attend a concert, youre going to get the good, bad and the ugly. Are you going to tell the Illinois State Fair committee to change their ways because you don't agree with their musical lineup? I believe the Bagelfest committee has tried to accommodate and entertain its entire community, something for everyone. People have way too much time on their hands when they can tell everyone else what they are doing wrong and why they are always right. There is family friendly entertainment all over Bagelfest. If the beer tent and a concert dont fit your lifestyle..then DONT GO. why make a scene over it. You listen to the radio Im sure, Zac Brown Band was on the radio more than Ive ever heard before Bagelfestshould have paid more attention and made your opinion before wasting your $75 as you say. I found Zac Brown Band to be very entertaining and so did my parents and so did my children, and I dont remember hearing anything worse than a Walmart trip (as one mentioned) or walking down the halls at your local middle or jr high school.
Just for the recordhere are a few of your wholesome country bands and their wholesome country songsLOL
Oak ridge boys..Trying to love two women...Yall come back saloon; Tracy Byrd...Ten Rounds with Jose Cuervo...Drinkin Bone..Watermelon Crawl...Drinking me out of your mind;
Brad Paisley...Alcohol..Whiskey Lullaby
Zac Brown Band was awesome and I hope to see similar entertainment in future fairs/festivals. "

OCD Girl wrote on Jul 27, 2009 12:32 PM:

" $75 for tickets! That's crazy. You could set your chairs up around the outside of the fence and still be able to hear the music; and leave when you wanted without wasting the money. "

Just an opinion wrote on Jul 27, 2009 12:51 PM:

" Equalizer wrote on Jul 26, 2009 9:22 PM:

WANT FOUL LANGUAGE & DRUNKS< GO TO THE BARS, NOT TO A FAMILY EVENT!!!!! "

Hope you never happen upon one of my family events. It's all beer and cussing! LOL "

XpLiziT wrote on Jul 27, 2009 2:00 PM:

" I believe this shows the "bible belt" mentality that goes on in towns like this in the middle of nowhere...This is not a good area for any kind of Entertainment let alone anyone who does not conform to the Nick Jr. standards...even if the language was so bad, are we not suppose to teach our children discipline? even if you could shelter your kids/nieces/nephews, why would you? The only thing you get for hiding things, especially this minuscule, from your kids is heavy rebellion in the teenage years(seen it too often)...if my 7 year old knows enough what she can or cannot repeat, shouldnt 9 and 12 be obvious?...Its rare enough just to get some good entertainment to come to champaign or decatur, how can this area ever expect to attract top 10 entertainment if this is what bands have to put up with...like its been said, if you dont like it, change the dial or stay home...x... "

The Question wrote on Jul 27, 2009 2:43 PM:

" County music? Oh yes, all those songs about adultery and alcoholism. Very wholesome. "

devilishangel61401 wrote on Jul 27, 2009 2:52 PM:

" First off let me say I apologize if I came across as "holier than thou" because that is not who I am. I have never thought nor will I ever think I am better than anyone. I only recently became a Christian for that matter and my "morals" in the past have been sketchy I will admit that. I don't mean to sound as though I am arguging with anyone or saying that anyone's feelings are wrong, we are all entitled to our own feelings and opinons. What expressed in my previous post was in response to this lady's letter. I can and do understand why she was upset and offended. I know nothing about this band, I've never heard of them before this, but if you listen to a band's CD's and they are a group you allow your kids to listen to and the concert is being advertised as "for the family" then you expect to be able bring your kids to it. * I did get the impression from all of the ads for Bagelfest all of this was family enteratinment* ( I don't mean the beer tent though no thats adults only) Yes we are supposed and should teach our kids discipline, but it does not mean that everyone wants their youngsters exposed to curse words, or to drunken adults. No nothing is wrong with having an alcoholic beverage around your kids as long as its done responsibly and its your own kids, what Im saying is that if you want to have a glass of wine at dinner with your kids that's your choice. If you want to have your neighbors kids over for dinner and want to down a few beers they may not be ok with you drinking in front of their children.

As for being in walmart etc, I don't have to be accosted or bumped into by drunk adults the way this lady expressed happend to her neices at this concert. I also don't have to walk down that aisle if I choose not to do so. I have been to events where they have beer tents,and the beer tents have always been seperate from the "family areas" the carnival rides and such. Not being a drinker least of all a beer drinker I have no clue where the tent was but from this letter I got the impression it was close to the concert venue. Why is a compromise not workable? Events that are for "adults only" keep those things in the beer tent. Then no one has to worry about their children or anyone's children being in attendance. Yes we all need to exercise our own good judgment, but if this lady had heard this band before and deemed them acceptable for her young neices to listen to then how was she supposed to know that the band would be using foul language? "

dc wrote on Jul 27, 2009 4:40 PM:

" Zac Brown wasn't in the beer tent! I don't believe their were any problems in the beer tent. And the main stage, I did not attend, but I have been to many concerts. Why would you have your nieces up near the stage at any show. To me that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't blame the beer tent, probly just the adults with no courtesy or sense. Great Baglefest this year, all my friends that attended had a great time, even with children!!!!!!!! "

Texas T wrote on Jul 27, 2009 4:44 PM:

" There was a lady down here that was at Walmart right before hurricane IKE trying to get some last minute supplies and she dropped the "F" bomb in her conversation with her friend and she got arrested for it. Then a couple of months later the guy was telling his neighbor about how his cat pooped in his yard (only he used the S word) and he got arrested. LOL The charges got dropped but still... "

outsider wrote on Jul 27, 2009 4:58 PM:

" OK, here's my confusion.....if Donna is so against drinking & Zac Brown songs......AND "Chicken Fried" was one of her nieces favorite songs....the first line in the chorus is "Cold beer on a friday night........." Were you not paying attention when they played it on the radio for weeks BEFORE they came here? As a parent, I am responsible for making sure I know what my children watch on tv, listen to on the radio, play on their playstations. If I don't think it's appropriate, I don't allow it. I'm sure they are going to be exposed to it when they walk out my door, but I can only control what's in my own house. I don't write to Sony, DirectTV, etc telling them to change their policy because I don't like it. "

Collatine wrote on Jul 27, 2009 5:45 PM:

" devilishangel61401 - Sorry if I came off as harsh. The comments weren't directed at you. My point was that there are rude adults and there is drinking. People here are so quick to curse the "demon liquor", when really they're talking about rude people.

I don't disagree with anything in your post.

I was at the concert, which was held about as far from the beer tent as you can get and still be in the park, and don't recall any cursing (at least nothing that you won't hear on a network TV program during prime time). I know several people on the Bagelfest committee who are fine, moral people, who work hard to put on the best event they can.

As others have said, if people wanted morality pure as the wind-driven snow, go to a gospel concert... but even then you'd hear about sin, AND grace... Oh well, I guess it's like that song on the radio, "God is Great, Beer is Good, and People are Crazy!!" lol "

kamfong wrote on Jul 27, 2009 6:48 PM:

" Know what you get when you play country music backwards? You get your dog back your truck back your boat back your house back and finally your wife back. "

caplet wrote on Jul 27, 2009 10:34 PM:

" You realize people can drink at bars, restaurants, etc. leave these places and then come to functions, hopefully with a designated driver. They can even drink at their own home, and then come to a concert or anywhere you might be! So, whether or not there is a beer tent anywhere near an event is irrelevant! "

gringa wrote on Jul 28, 2009 12:55 AM:

" True statement. One of the conditions Mr Peterson placed on the use of the donated land was that there would never be alcohol sold or consumed by anyone within the boundaries of the park.

This was the issue that almost kept the Mattoon Kiwanis Club from starting up the beer tent in the first place about ten years ago. For some reason, City Hall agreed to look the other way.

You think exposing children to drunks is bad news? What are your thoughts on exposing children to civic leaders who refuse to keep a solemn promise to the deceased donor? "

been there wrote on Jul 28, 2009 5:09 AM:

" Why are you going to write in and complain when the first words to the song you took your impresionable nieces to see are:

You know I like my chicken fried
Cold beer on a Friday night
A pair of jeans that fit just right
And the radio up

Is it ok for the girls to sing about drinking a beer but not see someone who has drank one? "

deep thoughts 45 wrote on Jul 28, 2009 9:20 AM:

" The Zac Brown Band are one of the biggest acts in Country Music. Their last two singles going straight to the top of the hottest songs in Country Music! They are received by the CMA as Country! There are many different versions of what Country Music is today.

The people that were up front and had been drinking had nothing to do with the band. I was also at the concert and it was a very professional concert by the Zac Brown Band. Their music lyrics are no different than most country song lyrics. Their main difference is that they are a very talented group of musicians. I appreciate the City of Mattoon and WMCI for bringing such a class act to the Mattoon area. We should not be complaining we should be thankful. There will always be those few who will ruin it for everybody else. "

medic57 wrote on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 AM:

" Collatine

Strangely enough, I could not find the word Kegger in the Bible. "

happymom wrote on Jul 28, 2009 10:45 AM:

" Also the song "Toes"....."Toes in the water, a$$ in the sand, not a care in the world, cold beer in my hand"...Once again it goes back to, do your research before you take your impressionable teens to a concert! "

csjenks90 wrote on Jul 28, 2009 12:48 PM:

" Beer tents = $$...If that is the only justification for them, then why not have strippers and poles in the street or some of the empty areas of downtown?? They could bring in $$ also.

Just because it 'brings in $$' doesn't make it right... "

Collatine wrote on Jul 28, 2009 2:52 PM:

" Medic - I suppose that depends on the translation you're reading! lol "

Rohn Gordon wrote on Jul 28, 2009 3:27 PM:

" Hey Medic and Col do not guess just ask the 2 bible fighters, Jr Hendren and SHumphreys. They will tell you if its there or not . :-P "

lefty wrote on Jul 28, 2009 3:46 PM:

" Sounds like Donna Bean's nieces need some exposure to some good "crank-rock!" Loosen em up a bit. "

cd wrote on Jul 28, 2009 6:42 PM:

" To make my long story short...if you want to hear gospel take the kiddies to church, not 15 feet from a beer tent.
P.S. That big, colorful, lit up area with all the rides was for kids. I didn't see alot of 40-somethings on the tilt-a-whirl for a reason. Rides=kids. Beer-tent=adults. "
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Some could say if you want booze/beer and trashy talk ... go to a bar! "

jls1961 wrote on Jul 28, 2009 7:38 PM:

" I totally understand the situation the aunt found herself in and have the greatest empathy for her. She chose the wrong concert for those two nieces obviously. No problem with children listening to country music, it's great, the problem is when you go to a secular concert you better be ready for the whole package these days. Especially in a public place that's drinking. Us non drinkers don't mix to well with the drinking rowdies and rightly so. Booze is mind altering, anybody knows that and everything goes, including the band. They've got a audience that wants it all the good, bad, and ugly. It's a whole heck of a lot different with a live concert verses a album or the radio. Better stick to the "Jonas Brothers" for those nieces. "

jrhendren wrote on Jul 29, 2009 1:17 AM:

" Rohn Gordon wrote on Jul 28, 2009 3:27 PM:
" Hey Medic and Col do not guess just ask the 2 bible fighters, Jr Hendren and SHumphreys. They will tell you if its there or not . :-P "

Well since you brought me into this Rohn. Drinking is not a sin, and alcoholic drinks are mentioned several times in the Scriptures. In fact, Jesus' first mentioned miracle is turning water into wine. The sin is over indulging in alcohol, just as with most sins.

As for Gringa's statement "One of the conditions Mr Peterson placed on the use of the donated land was that there would never be alcohol sold or consumed by anyone within the boundaries of the park." That is 100% true. There was never to be alcohol allowed in the park. I noticed Tuesday that the "No Alcohol Permitted" signs have been removed. "

laveau wrote on Jul 29, 2009 2:37 AM:

" Well, I suppose it is fair say go to a bar if you want trashy talk/booze. There is no way everyone is going to see eye to eye about the devlish beer tent. There is no way everyone is going to agree on anything EVER.
FYI..I am a non-drinker. I have absolutely NO problem mingling with trashy people that drink. I also grew up listening to trashy talk with trashy country lyrics. I am well- educated, stable and know full well right from wrong. The beer tent at Bagelfest is NOT going to form the future standing or morals of any children who witness it. If you can teach your kids right from wrong, then great for you. They will make the right decisions in life regardless of a beer tent or country music lyrics. If they are going to be scarred for life if they hear a bad word at a Zac Brown concert, stick to Miley Cyrus.
My point was that people will complain about anything, anytime they possibly can. It is asbolutely ridiculous. There is a beer tent because it generates alot of revenue for Bagelfest. It hardly compares with the earlier suggestion of a stripper pole at the intersection of 6th and Charleston.
By the way, I was also at the concert and I didn't witness the mosh pit by the stage comprised of drunk people. I didn't see any young children trampled as they attempted to take pictures of the band. Perhaps that was an oversight on my part. If 20 years from now a child commits murder and blames it on repressed memories of beer tents and country music lyrics, then I will stand corrected. "

Just a Citizen wrote on Jul 29, 2009 8:59 AM:

" In my humble opinion, the Bagelfest will become a "family" event when they make it AFFORDABLE for a family to attend. I paid $6.00 just for me and my daughter to ride the ferris wheel once. I was only there for one afternoon because I had obligations in a vendor booth and she happened to be with me. I would never pay for tickets to see a band I can stand outside of the fence and listen to anyway. I used to be a fan of country music but I quit listening to it years ago when noone could write a song that didn't have to do with someone dying of a terminal disease. I expect music to make me feel good. What concerns me is that the committee thinks that the only music listened to around here is country. "

good gosh wrote on Jul 29, 2009 11:21 AM:

" Well stated "laveau" hit the nail right on the head with that!! "

jrussell wrote on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM:

" Donna I would think that as a parent once you observed drinking occuring at the concert that you would take your kids and go rather than stick around for whatever happens next, I'm not saying I agree with drinking at a family festival but nonetheless I wouldn't keep kids around it and as for the language it is a part of life, your kids will hear it but it is up to you to make them understand the vile context and prevent them from repeating it, p.s. Did you really spend $75 for that show? You could go see an awesome band for that price "

emcginnis wrote on Jul 29, 2009 12:09 PM:

" personally i love this band and this article actually makes me see just how naive some people can be. if the only song of theirs you knew was chicken fried you didnt need to be buying tickets in the first place. and if you did want to find out more about this band walmart sells their cd. instead of spending 75$ on tickets you should have spent the 15 to 20 on the cd to find out what kind of music they sing. This article was stupid and irresponsible. "

pj1983 wrote on Jul 29, 2009 3:44 PM:

" just a citizen said :"What concerns me is that the committee thinks that the only music listened to around here is country." It does seem as though the bagelfest roster leans heavily towards country. Perhaps this is a financial choice rather than a preference of music? How many big name groups will do small festivals? I'm sure the Bagelfest Committee has an entertainment bugdet they have to stick to. The thing that works in their favor is that they have to book way in advance. Therefore they can book a relative unknown for pretty cheap and when the festival rolls around a year later, hopefully the act has blown up and will be a huge crowd generator.

If people don't like the way the festival is run, why not join the committee and find out why things are done the way they are? "

jls1961 wrote on Jul 29, 2009 5:01 PM:

" Woah!!!!! You say there used to be a no alcoholic beverages allowed sign at the entrance of Peterson Park and it came down to be repainted which was years ago and it's never gone back up!
HELLOOOOOOO!!!!!! It's time to do something about that don't you think. BAGELFEST IS OVER "

cujbj1 wrote on Jul 29, 2009 10:12 PM:

" "Dont make a festivity out of drinking beer and cussing in front of impressionable children."

Drinking beer and cussing? I just wrote half a country song right there. Impressionable children? I've got news for you lady, Bagelfest is the least of your worries. "

DonnaJo wrote on Jul 30, 2009 12:09 AM:

" Hi yes its me Donna J. Bean
I'm writting a response to the comments I have been reading to my letter. I'm concerned you see I have been raised on traditional country such as Bill Anderson, Faron Young, Grand Ole Opry Stars. The reason I bring this to the forefront is when I attended concerts with my grandparents as a child the older stars respected "FAMILY" and cleaned up their act according.
And yes I love stars of the 90s' probably more then most of the "younger" generation such as David Kersh, Wade Hayes, Collin Raye. If you attended a conert with any one of those stars from the 90s' and yes even if beer was involved they never would cuss on stage in a forum knowing that tickets were sold as a family event. To me it was false advertisement to say it was family at all when I hear the "Devil Went Down to Georgia" and hear instead of Son of A Gun like Charlie would do in a family setting use son of a *itch. Or how about one of the sponsers had to be thrilled I believe Dr. Clyde sponsored bringing this "wonderfull" group to town and they perform a song that even The American Humane society told them not to perform "I killed a Chicken" it talks about how the chicken went out in the woods and he sends his dog out he hears a squeal and knows the chicken went to the farm in the sky. Or better yet how he killed the rooster! To me that was uncalled for. Better yet, talking about a womans sweet *ss or his sac*. I'm sure that was a ok right? Family oriented.
To answer your question about listening to their music prior to the concert..that was my mistake no I didn't but you can bet from here on out I will because there will not be another instance of a group cursing in front of impressionable children again that is not entertainment nor is it family entertainment. "

DonnaJo wrote on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM:

" I'm concerned for the children who attended this concert. I am a country fan anyone who knows my grandparents Wayne and Martha McDowell know from their newspaper article a little bit country from years past that I was raised on traditional country music. I differ with several opinions being made the Zac Brown Band is Alternative Country but they are not Country. "

DonnaJo wrote on Jul 30, 2009 12:15 AM:

" The language presented in front of the children in attendance was not family friendly. The Zac Brown Band belonged in the beer tent not on the main stage. "

Raider65 wrote on Jul 30, 2009 5:40 AM:

" Donna, Here's your sign "

lefty wrote on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 AM:

" DONNAJO, aint you got anything better to do with your time? "

The Curious wrote on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 AM:

" Bagel Fest Committee was WRONG in having that band come to a Family Event. Bagel Fest Committee is wrong in having a beer tent in the street at a family event.

Quit skirting around the issue, which is Bagel Fest Goes Bad! There isn't supposed to be drinking in the parks nor streets, an exception should not be made at a safe family event which people have always looked forward to taking their families.

Nobody should have to research what band is playing at a FAMILY EVENT. Bagel Fest Committee should have made sure it was family orientated. This is the true issue at hand. "

ocd girl wrote on Jul 30, 2009 10:15 AM:

" Wow! Donna--was it necessary to throw in your grandparents names? Who cares!
If you want to keep your nieces sheltered and away from "bad" words, then make them listen to WBGL and live in a cave. I have a 10 year old myself and she hears bad words all the time--at Wal-Mart, at school, at the pool. Instead of trying to keep your impressionable nieces away from bad words, why not try explaining to them the meanings, why they are said and why they shouldn't say them until they are older. There is no such thing as a bad word, only grown up words. "

jrussell wrote on Jul 30, 2009 11:59 AM:

" family oriented? what about the county fair? do you call that family oriented? what about the music they play over their loud speakers? what about the language and fights there? so we do stop the fair or do we make parents realize that the world is what the world is and it is their job to parent their children not to follow bad example "

just watching wrote on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 PM:

" Rite on ocd girl. "

Rockin Rotty wrote on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 PM:

" Ruh Roh!!

Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo!!! "

kahamaco wrote on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 PM:

" Quick correction there "DonnaJo"-

In the original lyrics that Charlie Daniels sings in "The Devil Went Down to Georgia", he does say "I told you once you son of a bi**h". So the Zac Brown Band was singing the original lyrics to the song. Again, a little research goes a looong way before you start forcing your opinion. Look it up. "

outsider wrote on Jul 30, 2009 2:03 PM:

" So if EVERYTHING at Bagelfest is supposed to suit EVERYONE, then get rid of the rides.......I have no interest in those.....get rid of the stupid waste of money games, as I have no interest in those either. I believe Bagelfest is promoted as a community event hoping to have a little something for everyone. Concerts are booked several months in advance and are chosen based on the majority rules. I have not gone to every concert in the past, because it didn't interest me. Community events are not required attendance....pick the ones you wish to attend and don't go to the ones you don't approve of. No need to make a federal case out of it. Plain and simple here, you did not do your homework before hand.......now you have to find someone to blame. I'm sure if the squeeky wheels keep going, they can ultimately get Bagelfest cancelled and then they can complain there's nothing to do in this little town. "

laveau wrote on Jul 30, 2009 2:12 PM:

" Well, now that I know who your grandparents are that just changes everything.....are you kidding me???? Name dropping doesn't change anything. Who cares who they are?!?!
You don't need to explain Zac Browns songs or lyrics to me, I already know them. So, because you were raised listening to "wholesome" country you are better than the rest of us who were raised on "outlaw" country with the trashy words? Your holier than thou stance is getting to be a bit offensive now Donna. Since you are such a grand ole opery fan why dont you stick to taking your neices there instead. Perhaps you should also do a little research the next time you take them to a concert instead of being so obviously oblivious to what they are going to hear in the lyrics.
P.S.
I went to a Charlie Daniels concert when I was younger and more impressionable. He used the lyric "son of a bit*h". I clearly didn't perish in the night. Kinda blows your holier than thou theory all to crap. Thank God I wasn't raised that sheltered. "

outsider wrote on Jul 30, 2009 2:13 PM:

" Donna Jo wrote..."Or how about one of the sponsers had to be thrilled I believe Dr. Clyde sponsored bringing this "wonderful" group to town and they perform a song that even The American Humane society told them not to perform "I killed a Chicken" it talks about how the chicken went out in the woods and he sends his dog out he hears a squeal and knows the chicken went to the farm in the sky."

are you serious??!! It was a joke to introduce a song!

You're so quick to blame Zac Brown Band.......my advice is don't take impressionable children to a concert you know nothing about. "

justathought wrote on Jul 30, 2009 2:46 PM:

" My husband and I attended the show as well,it was great! Our only problem was a couple of ladies that were overly drunk towards the front of the stage. Zac Brown was very good and we hope to see them again. Also I am not sure where you got your tickets but we ordered ours and they were $15 each so for 3 people that would be $45 not $75 Maybe you should just stick to the Mary Had a Little Lamb for your neices and keep them in a little bubble where nothing ever goes wrong. This is the real world kids are gonna hear stuff you should just be a better parent and teach them from right and wrong "

even steven wrote on Jul 30, 2009 2:55 PM:

" After reading all the responses, I feel like I need to listen to "Drop Kick Me Jesus" by Kinky Friedman. "

kamfong wrote on Jul 30, 2009 6:25 PM:

" Donna,I have found that there are three things a person doesn't want to mess with in Mattoon,their beer,their country music and baseball.But sit back and enjoy your face being red and soak up the embarrassment,cause therapy like Ive witnessed on this thread is priceless.LMAO @ drop kick me jesus. "

AnnaNiemaus wrote on Jul 30, 2009 6:43 PM:

" Beer tents in the park are a big improvement from when Bagelfest was on Broadway and the food booths were set up after the parade...where the horses had pooped! "

Billie Brant wrote on Jul 30, 2009 10:20 PM:

" even steven- I think Bobby Bare came out with "Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goalposts of Life" first in the mid-seventies.

"Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life."

Due to my advanced age;-) I remember when Bobby came out with it. LOL!

Bobby may have a point! :-) "

jrhendren wrote on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 AM:

" AnnaNiemaus wrote on Jul 30, 2009 6:43 PM:
" Beer tents in the park are a big improvement from when Bagelfest was on Broadway and the food booths were set up after the parade...where the horses had pooped! "

Never mind the merchants up town who lost business do to the move, or the fact that the city is okaying breaking the law, and even encouraging it. "

Mama says wrote on Jul 31, 2009 5:46 AM:

" You wouldn't take kids to a bar for music nor expect keep ones ears from hearing BAD WORDS and park next to a BAR? I feel Bagelfest should keep the beer tents and the adult music at special section away from the kiddie rides and other family oriented events.

I wouldn't shellout $75 either.
I would have live with grandparents and no rent and utilties to afford that.

Maybe Bagelfest will seperate the entertainment. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 31, 2009 9:30 AM:

" I would have live with grandparents and no rent and utilties to afford that.

Ouch! "

even steven wrote on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 AM:

" Thanks for the correction, Billy. The song just popped into my mind, and I really did think it was Kinky Friedman. I must have mixed it up with "They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore". Still... fun songs. "

garyvoudrie wrote on Jul 31, 2009 11:06 AM:

" Some families like to drink beer and cuss :) "

Billie Brant wrote on Jul 31, 2009 11:20 AM:

" Yes steven. There are many "fun songs" out there. Bobby has had a slew of them. "The Winner" is one of my favorites along with "Marie Laveau". Kinky is a hoot too. Maybe it's because of all those big cigars he smokes! Smile! It's good for us. :-) "

woodtick wrote on Jul 31, 2009 11:13 PM:

" Kamfong said it all. Alcohol, country music, families, bible banging. . . Not necessarily related to bagels. At least only digital ink is wasted. A frenzy like this could only happen here. "

julio wrote on Aug 1, 2009 9:12 AM:

" Concerts are not for small children. Dragging the children to the area directly in front of the stage was a irresponsible move on your part. Everything else aside it's way to loud up there. "

yeah right wrote on Aug 1, 2009 9:15 AM:

" we are becoming a nation of liberal wimps. This is so crazy and absurd of a letter.

I will point out that if bagelfest turns more family, then it will totally die out. This band brought the most people ever to our fair city for this dumb festival that will more than likely die after next year's 25 anniversary.

Not only did your child miss one of their best songs, she also missed them signing all most everyone's stuff. That's how evil they are.

Take a deep breath...life is passing you by. "

medic57 wrote on Aug 1, 2009 12:18 PM:

" jrhendren wrote: As for Gringa's statement "One of the conditions Mr Peterson placed on the use of the donated land was that there would never be alcohol sold or consumed by anyone within the boundaries of the park." That is 100% true. There was never to be alcohol allowed in the park. I noticed Tuesday that the "No Alcohol Permitted" signs have been removed. "

They came up missing the 1st year of the beer tent. As far as Alcohol in the park, Grimes Field was not part of the original park, just put it there. "

medic57 wrote on Aug 1, 2009 12:21 PM:

" kahamaco wrote on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 PM:

" Quick correction there "DonnaJo"-

In the original lyrics that Charlie Daniels sings in "The Devil Went Down to Georgia", he does say "I told you once you son of a bi**h".

Actually, that wasn't the original version, it was the CD Version, the clean one was the Radio Version. Of course, now days, it makes no difference. "

2tellthetruth wrote on Aug 1, 2009 5:49 PM:

" Why did you shell out $75 for tickets for you and your 2 nieces? The tickets were only $15 a piece. That's $45 last time I checked. Find better things to worry about, the band and atmosphere were great! "

parrothead55 wrote on Aug 1, 2009 6:33 PM:

" Donna is an only child ? neices hummmm "

Mama says wrote on Aug 2, 2009 12:03 AM:

" What amazed me is the Harmons are Donnas mom and stepdad, parents of the two kids, and in newspaper stated they paid $75 for tickets so where was their BRAINS they didnt take the children elsewhere? "

STINKY wrote on Aug 2, 2009 9:37 AM:

" i am absolutely appalled. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 2, 2009 8:16 PM:

" "One of the conditions Mr Peterson placed on the use of the donated land was that there would never be alcohol sold or consumed by anyone within the boundaries of the park."

Why should we be surprised? The Burgess Auditorium was left for the use of the youth of Mattoon. In fact there used to be a plaque on the wall there to that effect. I imagine it got taken down when the Chamber of Commerce took the building over. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 2, 2009 8:21 PM:

" That would make them step-sisters, not nieces, unless they're from Arkansas or something, Mama says.

And hey, perhaps she bought the tickets from a scalper. lol! "

DonnaJo wrote on Aug 3, 2009 2:33 AM:

" Please tell me why there are personal attacks posted on this board? Last time I checked we all live in the USA we all have a right to like the band or not like the band. If you have children or if you brought children to the even ask yourselves this...Would you approve of bad behavior years down the road? I think not.
Now I am woman enough to take your opinions and post my own name unlike Mama or laveau just for two examples. We all don't have to agree but remember when Bagelfest first started we had a choice back then why must we be forced to the decisions that are made for us today? Yes Bagelfest may take time to plan and organize but I'm not talking about that I'm talking about Bagelfest being a family friendly event. I was told that Friday was advertised as a "family" night and that Saturday was a "country" night. Now you tell me what's the differance? Why separate the two? I thought Bagelfest was a famly friendly festival not a one night and get your bagel and and no more kids. So please enlighten me on that. "

DonnaJo wrote on Aug 3, 2009 2:39 AM:

" One last thing before you tell me to do my homework and buy the cd which by the way Im sorry FCC that you didnt catch the cuss words and that Walmart sells the cd. Why didn't the hiring entertainment attend a concert of the Zac Brown Band and hear them cuss in front of children. "

DonnaJo wrote on Aug 3, 2009 4:06 AM:

" Although my personal life should not be under the radar here..I'm gonna say life happens. My parents are divorced I don't associate with my father I do live with my grandparents which by the way I pay rent get your facts straight. Don't believe me I have canceled checks to prove it. I have 3 darling step nieces that I do consider my nieces and only 2 attended this concert. I believe I am owed now a public apology because my oldest step niece like i said who i consider my niece was highly offended by some of the remarks. My step sister was killed and my mom and step dad are raising the two girs. It is highly uncalled for you to go after my family. I was commenting on the band and their behavior I hope that you all are happy to have once again hurt children. "

kahamaco wrote on Aug 3, 2009 7:14 AM:

" Medic -
I can recall listening to the radio at my grandparents house as a child and hearing the version of "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" with the dreaded curse word (GASP!). My grandparents didn't have a record player, much less a CD or cassette player, so that versiom was also played on the radio. There was never a day my grandmother didn't have country music playing on her kitchen radio, but this was back in the 80's, maybe early 90's.

If you look up the lyrics online, they also show "bit**", not "son of a gun". Even on a gospel music site, it's shows it this way. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 3, 2009 10:42 AM:

" The next thing you know we're gonna be hearing about the bricks on south 15th street. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:17 PM:

" Excuse me, but you're the one who brought your family into the discussion. Perhaps it is you who owe them an apology. "

NickMcD wrote on Aug 3, 2009 3:37 PM:

" Country music is dead. No one wants to hear it. If you don't like what you paid for, then go complain somewhere else. If you actually expect people to go to a concert and not drink and smoke, then you are out of your mind. It is a CONCERT. Sit at home and watch CMT from now on. "

kamfong wrote on Aug 3, 2009 5:28 PM:

" Donna,just a thought,what kind of message are you sending those little ones, by harboring such anomosity towards your own father? That seems to be worse then a cuss word. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 3, 2009 5:39 PM:

" I once knew a man who was in such a dysfunctional marriage that he had to go all the way to Texas to find sanity. The good news is that he met a normal woman who has given him years of happiness and peace of mind. "

DonnaJo wrote on Aug 3, 2009 11:28 PM:

" Its' so easy to pass judgement on others when you are not them. You did not live in our family household and you have not been there and you know what it must be real easy to sit behind a computer and pass judgement on others and not post your real name. I just wonder how your home lives are? How well do you get along with your families? You know what you all don't know the circumstances so how dare you cast stones!
My opinions were of Bagelfest and the band yes I may included my nieces *step* if you must, I did it to let everyone know the disappointment they suffered. I just want to know how a few people can sleep at night? If you find out how they do or if they finally decide that they want to be real not hide behind a computer ..then just bring it. "

kamfong wrote on Aug 4, 2009 9:46 AM:

" Pretty good thread for a fictional one lol. "

DonnaJo wrote on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM:

" You know it really must be "entertaining" to post such stuff about people when all they want to do is post their opinion about a band and bagelfest. "

laveau wrote on Aug 4, 2009 2:03 PM:

" Poor DonnaJo. You decided to broadcast your personal business, not us. We know where you live, your grandparents names, you have a gazillion cancelled checks, deaths in your family, who raises your neices and what country artists you approve/disapprove of. Your mother and step-father even wrote a letter to the jg-tc defending your article, so now we know them too. You have tried every angle now ranging from name-dropping to pity. It still isn't working.
You stated your opinion, several people on here stated THEIR opinion. You aren't the only one with freedom of speech. The more they criticize you, the more personal info you hand them for more fuel. Wow.
As for the "public apology" you think I owe you, not a chance. Perhaps you owe me an apology. I took offense to the letter you wrote. I was raised around that evil country you so protest, and I am doing just fine.
Did you seriously say "just bring it"? Thanks for the laugh. "

jrussell wrote on Aug 4, 2009 3:10 PM:

" DonnaJo wrote on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM:

" You know it really must be "entertaining" to post such stuff about people when all they want to do is post their opinion about a band and bagelfest. "

...is that not what everyone else is doing? I smell a Tipper Gore here... "

DonnaJo wrote on Aug 4, 2009 3:24 PM:

" You know me? Really, You do?Funny I don't know you! Yet you all feel the need to post and post and post about my family and what I want to know is where is your guts? Oh that right you all are cowards you hide behind a computer and cast stones when yet in reality you are afraid for anyone to know who you are! Real brave! "

pumpkinseed wrote on Aug 5, 2009 12:00 AM:

" DonnaJo
-May I give a sincere and friendly suggestion? Try not to let yourself get anymore upset and just let it go. You did have a right to state your opinion, and you did. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about it does it? It sounds like you really care about your family and they are equally supportive of you and that is an honorable and fortunate quality. I wouldnt waste your time defending your opinion or your family any further as it will just bring more unwanted criticism. Also, I would advise against devulging any more personal information about you or your family online. It's not in you or your families best interest as far as safety concerns. God bless! :) "

safetydance wrote on Aug 6, 2009 10:04 AM:

" I took our 3 daughters to bagelfest, about 6:30-9:00pm, to ride the rides, have some really good food, and to play games, and just to hang out. We had a great time! We did not go to the concert, which was our choice. The beer tent was packed from the looks of it, , , the concert was packed, the whole event was packed! It is shocking to me that this "aunt" would be so up-hauled by the event. It's a given, every year what goes on there. Mattoon doesn't have a whole lot of events that take place, but when they do, WE are sure to attend! Come what may, it's the choice of the family whether to attend or not! All together we popped out about $85, but it was worth every dollar to see the kids having fun! Kids are going to be exposed to the real world, whether it's at Bagelfest, school, walking the dog, etc, etc, that's just the way it is. Our daughters heard alot, saw alot, while we were there, even I was somewhat shocked, but thats life, and it was OUR choice to go. It is what it is! My advice to this "aunt" would be more prepared before making choices!!!!! "

Mama says wrote on Aug 7, 2009 7:39 AM:

" The more the kettle is stirred the more it smells.
I suggest mental health for families.
EVERYONE can say what want, last I heard it is a FREE country.
Ahhhh, did the bricks get laid on that street?
I have a funny comeback but will refrain,,,,,,,this soap opera is as good as what is on television. "

Mama says wrote on Aug 7, 2009 8:04 AM:

" Why suggest no Bagelfest, just don't go.
Take precious and the parents and grands to Nashville, HEE HAW.

I can tell readers part of a soap opera: engagement to a popular singer and wearing AVON jewelry supposedly fron the singer. Trips to Nashville.
He supposedly came to Mattoon and see the fiancee. HEE HAW. The makings of another country song.

There are those who live in make-believe where all is perfect. Well if was be no country songs.

I been about smoking, drinking, all kinds of music, raised into religion,
both sides of the coin. AND I turned out good. When wanted to hear cussing I would just listen to ex husband. haha.
Now that is another soap opera. Hee Haw. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 7, 2009 11:48 AM:

" Hey Mama, you left out the part about the law suit for harassment against precious. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 7, 2009 1:51 PM:

" Or the part about the mom scouring the chat rooms searching in vain for a man for precious, or maybe she should have hoisted her up into the car into the car and drove up and down Broadway looking for a likely victim...I mean potential mate. I've heard that worked for one woman. lol! "

laveau wrote on Aug 7, 2009 2:32 PM:

" Mama....That's a funny story...I have a few myself about a girl a few years younger than me in school!!
There once was a girl who, back in High School, would write ficticious notes to herself from jocks on the basketball team. The notes would include detailed accounts of intimate affairs and encounters...Then she would pass them around for the whole class to see how happy she and her "basketball star" were!!!!
There once was a girl who would pass out flyers at school for the "event of the century" at her grandparents house...the flyers promised a night of smoke-free and non-alcholic fun with only pre-selected music free of any profanities. Supposedly they were a swinging good time with tales of teenage lust!! "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 7, 2009 5:34 PM:

" Laveau, at one of the high schools I taught at they had a pathetic little overweight girl who went around telling her fellow students she was pregnant, and of course she claimed the father was one of the more popular boys. One administrator called her parents in and suggested they get her some mental health counseling. I guess the mom went ballistic over it. I doubt that poor girl ever got any professional help, and from what I heard it not hard to tell where this poor girl got her emotional problems. All too often mental health problems run in families. "

Mama says wrote on Aug 7, 2009 8:33 PM:

" Yes I heard about the pregnant story, the going steady with jocks, and the whole thing. Now that poor soul has MY FACE and other sites trying to find a man. Guys are smart and run.

I do feel sad for people needing help with their issues. I do not think it is smart to use real names. This family has talked in public about things that families should just shutup about.
I am like Harry Reynolds when overheard too much information in a restaurant about a familys very private lives.

We have people who bring their beer and I make homemade pizza, sometimes a cuss word here and there, and it has not hurt my kid who says HE USES THEM HOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE WHEN GROWNUP.
I liked the joke WHY ARE DEMOCRATS MORE SEXY THAN REPUBLICS? No one never wants a xxxxx of elephant.

But we all know the REST OF THE STORY. "

Rockin Rotty wrote on Aug 7, 2009 11:51 PM:

" Mama, you are a hoot!
LOL!!!!
Thanks for the laughs, gang! "

Mama says wrote on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM:

" Jesus turned the water into wine, not BEER. I seldom go down the liquor aisles in grocery stores since only time am is to have winecoolers once in awhile altho not a DRINKER daily nor weekly, maybe three times a year.

I don't smoke but others can if want.
I don't get close to them either.
I don't do illegal drugs, but not holier than thou either. I have seen how some act who do all the above.
But it is their life.
The place for people who are not satisfied with Bagelfest, is home with their own kind and leave the rest of the world alone. I don't put my name in paper because don't want CALLS AND HANGUPS AND other issues from situations.
Donna has a kind heart deep down, she
has given her grandparents birthday and anniversary parties in Peterson Park. Not many showup as items like for them to purchase,example:matching recliners, who has that kind of money folks. I don't even have a recliner. Friends don't like being hitup for expensive now days,
The bagelfest board works hard to put
on this event and getting all the tables, chairs, is a lot of work.
I was relieved when no horse dodo when changed things. The beer tent could be on Broadway and kiddie rides in peterson park, and other kiddie amusements. Donna could ride the merrygoround, and the swings and not be around adult entertainment.
Good thing we have no male strippers.
(Inside a tent of course.) There is a Mattoon cop I would like see in a thong.
I would be up front saying GO BABY GO.
wITH A BEER, AND NO CUSSING OF COURSE.
Even a few bucks tucked in his thong.
Mabe I SHOULD BE ON THE BOARD? "

PumpkinSeed wrote on Aug 9, 2009 6:02 PM:

" I must confess-I look for one particular posters comments on all the topics listed on this site. Why? Because her posts are so darn unusual not to mention intriguing! LOL! I'm refering to "Mama." God bless you sister, you have a "special" way of putting things....even though you DO scare me a little bit! Yikes! LOL! :) "

PumpkinSeed wrote on Aug 9, 2009 6:04 PM:

" *Correction:
The poster's name I'm refering to is "Mama says" "

Mama says wrote on Aug 9, 2009 10:09 PM:

" Pumpkinseed,not scary looking either. hehe. I always look for everyones comments. Most of us do know this whole family and the whole story.
BECAUSE they have told everyone except the part about the truths others have commented. HARRY POTTER is the wizard,
I am able to tell when all relatives are commenting, and they do and not tell us when agreeing with subject.
Been able see future things and things in past when people lie to me.
Can tell when the relatives comment.
I thought about picking subject up and taking the tour around in back of pickup truck with sign. Sort of like the Beverly Hillbillies.
Yep have funny personality, like laugh, but like the TRUTH. Why coverup that the other couple were the mom and stepdad for instance?
I have met a lot of people in Mattoon and surrounding areas. Love to kid around with a lot of people, like the FED EX men who are hunks and asked if have one of their catalogs so can order one for home, hehe.

I really like all the commenters and ones who reply.

A little crazy, pumpkinseed, just not insane. A cooler cures that. hehe. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 10, 2009 4:20 PM:

" Hey, what happened to the Adams family? "

Mama says wrote on Aug 11, 2009 12:31 AM:

" The Adams Family trying to fix Uncle Fester up with Precious and make a country music man out of him for Bagelfest 2010. "

Mattoon_is_dying wrote on Aug 11, 2009 2:18 PM:

" Wow, what a mess this has become!!! Probaby would have been better off keeping your mouth closed Donna Downer. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 12, 2009 9:25 PM:

" The gang of five must have crawled off to lick their wounds. lol! "

Mama says wrote on Aug 13, 2009 4:57 AM:

" All of a sudden rebuttals are quiet.
Hard to hit back when others know the facts folks. Hey Harry, maybe see you all Saturday at the FREE blues in the park. If see the family of five there, we will see another disgruntled time.
GEE I go places to have a good time, not nag and complain. Might be why no problem having a man either hey? hehe. "