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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:08 PM CDT
LETTER: Other nations must set their own course

AMBER BLEVINS, Charleston

Self-determination is a key to any successful democratic society. The change must come from the people in order for it to sustain itself.

We have seen time and again (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba) that attempting to impose democracy on a people who are not ready for it is unrealistic and often disastrous.

Like our own American Revolution, other nations need the ability to determine their own course, throw off their own oppressors, and govern themselves.

We would not have wanted another, more powerful nation, interfering, controlling, or taking credit for the rights and freedoms we fought for.

The brave Iranian people standing up now do not want us stepping in either. They should have the right to take credit for their own successes or failures and determine where to go from here.

The only thing Americans should be doing at this point is setting a shining example of what they could have if they fight hard enough. We finally have a president who understands this concept and is stepping back to allow the people of Iran to steer their own course.

They do not want our advice or support at this point, and in light of the political climate in the Middle East, they are probably better off without it.

I say to the critics who feel we should be doing more; sometimes doing nothing is the correct course. If democracy is truly the greatest form of government, then people will embrace it and fight for it when they are ready.

But nations are, in a sense, like individuals who always appreciate more the things they work for than that which is handed to them.

Perhaps America is growing up and realizing that we cannot solve the world’s problems, nor should we try.

AMBER BLEVINS

Charleston

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gringa wrote on Jul 6, 2009 10:30 PM:

" You have a point there, Amber, but don't worry. If you wear the right kind of hat, no one will notice. LOL. "

Rohn Gordon wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 AM:

" Amber you are right to a point. You also have to think how oppressed some are, do you think that the people in Iran have any hope to change their government without outside help?? Iraq stood no chance, North Korea nope and Afghanistan they had none. But I also think that it is a shame that the US is about the only people who will and do help. If we was ran under a murderess dictatorship I would hope someone would help us. You can look at it like a child or special needs person, they can not do it they need the help. "

what? wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:52 PM:

" Humanology 101: We kill each other. "

medic57 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 12:20 AM:

" Perhaps America is growing up and realizing that we cannot solve the worlds problems, nor should we try.

Nor should Iran or Korea be allowed to have Nuclear Weapons under ANY circumstances. "

Kamfong wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:05 AM:

" Harry P, I don't know if you like Glenn Beck,But have you seen his book, called An Inconvenient Book? ppg,292 the Mex-AmeriCanada Doolar.lol "

Becky wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:11 AM:

" You don't get it Amber, wars are very profitable. Especially for those who make the decisions to go to war. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 8, 2009 2:41 PM:

" Becky wrote on Jul 8, 2009 11:11 AM:

" You don't get it Amber, wars are very profitable. Especially for those who make the decisions to go to war. "

Good point Becky. Due to the Iraq war and his Halliburton stock options, Dick Cheney is among the wealthiest of all politicians. But of course Cheney had nothing to so with the push to invade Iraq. Lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:31 PM:

" " Harry P, I don't know if you like Glenn Beck,But have you seen his book, called An Inconvenient Book? ppg,292 the Mex-AmeriCanada Doolar.lol "

I don't care for the guy, kam. He's just a tad unstable for my tastes. Huckabee is about the only pundit on Fox that I can stand to watch for more than 10 minutes.

While I usually don't agree with him, Pat Buchanan is one conservative that I enjoy watching. Joe Scarborough is palatable for the most part too.

When it come to conservative
politicians, Barry Goldwater will always have a place in my heart, not for his politics, but for his wit and charm. That and the fact that he once handed my wife a yellow rose. How could I not love the guy after that?

With the death of William Buckley, there is a great void among the conservative thinkers in this country. That fact seems to be proved with a poll I saw this morning saying 75 percent of Republicans are behind Sarah Palin. It's really sad to see that the GOP in this country has become a joke now that they appear to be lead by Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin. "

medic57 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 3:48 PM:

" I like Sarah Palin, I think she is very smart and I think she would have made a good VP, however, I have no respect for her if she is leaving office to do her own thing, especially when she is leaving 2 years early, abandoning the people who voted for her. If that is the case, she should have to repay the State of Alaska for any new elections. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:09 PM:

" HP- I remember your beautiful story of that yellow rose very well. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 8, 2009 6:51 PM:

" Thanks, Billie.Actually she wasn't my wife yet on that memorable day so long ago, but with persistence and a lot good luck that beautiful young woman became my life mate. I truly believe everyone has one great love in their life. You and I have been blessed and have that in common, my friend.

PS she gets more beautiful as the years go by. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jul 8, 2009 8:47 PM:

" I remember a lot more about that story, my friend. Stories like that one seem to stick with me.

Yup! We each found "the one" in our lives. It just took me longer. :-) It was worth the wait. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:06 PM:

" Come now Mr Potter, it couldn't possibly have been your wife who received that precious yellow rose from Mr Goldwater; that was a story that a certain "Dohbaugh" told:

(Dohbaugh wrote on Nov 15, 2007 3:55 PM:

"Small world, gringa. Then I suppose you were at the train station when Goldwater was in Mattoon too? Do you happen to remember the beauty queen, Miss Mattoon, I believe, presenting Goldwater with a bouquet of yellow roses? Before the train pulled out, he reached down from the platform and passed one of the roses down to a teenage beauty in the crowd. That beautiful young woman is the one I have been married to for over 40 years now. Were you there for that event? Thanks for the memory.")

I'm confused Mr Potter. Can you explain this?

Maybe this link will help you out:

http://tinyurl.com/2km643 "

Stanley Stetson wrote on Jul 9, 2009 1:04 AM:

" * ouch * busted * lol * "

Interested Observer wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:05 AM:

" Good letter, Amber! Spot on! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:03 AM:

" Of course it was me posting under that name Sybil, I have changed my posting name (actually twice). For someone who changes their posting name on a regular basis, I'm surprised that you would go to so much work trying to prove that anyone else would do what you do with a lot of regularity. You must live a very exciting life, it you get all worked up about such a trivial thing. "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:23 AM:

" So the CIA director has now admitted in testimony that the CIA lied to Congress -- just as Nancy Pelosi said when the right wingers here were huffing and puffing that HOW DARE SHE suggest that the professional liars at the CIA would lie to Congress and the American public. "

Tom Andres wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:51 AM:

" WOW! Harry Potter BUSTED by 7X6Z9! Tonto was smarter than the Lone Ranger. Superman can't really fly. Batman and Robin are lovers. And now, Harry Potter and Dohbaugh are one and the same - along with father bob, question, early bird, etc. LOL, in reality, there are only about four pseudo posters on this site. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:03 AM:

" LONDON � Britain's most senior policeman ordered an inquiry Thursday into claims that journalists from a tabloid owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch illegally hacked into the mobile phones of hundreds of celebrities and politicians.

Lawmakers also demanded answers after The Guardian reported that the News of the World _ the country's most popular Sunday paper _ paid private investigators to obtain voice mail messages, private phone numbers, bank statements and other information about figures including Gwyneth Paltrow, George Michael and some of the country's most senior politicians.

Ah, good old Rupert Murdoch. Sounds like he does the same thing in Great Britain as he does here with his shoddy journalistic tactics at Fox. Fox does like to talk about their "scoops", it appears that we now know how they get them. LOL!

Maybe Murdoch got his ideas on wiretapping from the Bush/Cheney regime.

Thank God for Fox news, right Tom? Like the ongoing meltdown of Sarah Palin, this gets better by the day.... "

kamfong wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:18 AM:

" Isn't there a law against slalking,I have a general concern for another posters saftey on here.man x- isn't that a little exreme dude? "

Billie Brant wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:30 AM:

" Good response HP. At least we know you don't suffer from DID. LOL! "

father bob wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:38 AM:

" The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:23 AM:
" So the CIA director has now admitted in testimony that the CIA lied to Congress -- just as Nancy Pelosi said when the right wingers here were huffing and puffing that HOW DARE SHE suggest that the professional liars at the CIA would lie to Congress and the American public. """""

i saw that TQ, it's amazing just how deeply corruption and falsifying of information was spread throughout the bush/cheney era of murder and larceny. "

Tom Andres wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:43 AM:

" Harry, the ongoing meltdown of Sarah Palin ...? Are you trying to redefine the meaning of meltdown? If Sarah Palin is politically insignificant, why spend so much time trying to destroy her? "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:46 AM:

" Morgan Stanley reportedly plans to repackage a downgraded junk debt obligation backed by leveraged loans into "new securities with AAA ratings."
Back to the same con job that brought down the world economy. These "Too Big to Fail, Plenty Big Enough to Rob You Blind" banks need to be wiped out of existence, with their executives jailed. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:56 AM:

" Thank you Mr Potter, for your admission of guilt.

Of course, you had little choice in the matter but to admit that you are a name-changer didn't you, sir. Although I don't doubt for a moment that you exhausted all alternative attempts to slide out of this one, but alas, the evidence was most conclusive, wasn't it, Mr Potter. This would explain why you are so bent on throwing around accusations of clandestine postings by other individuals, wouldn't it, sir. Your actions seem to be the result of an overtly hyper-sensitive form of 'projection', it would seem. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 10:19 AM:

" "Isn't there a law against slalking,I have a general concern for another posters saftey on here.man x- isn't that a little exreme dude?"
------------

Kamfong, your personal attempt to obfuscate Mr Potter's indefensible hypocrisy, and your over-the-top knee-jerk reaction (dare I say 'extreme') of "stalking" accusations lead me to suspect that you may be, yet another, of Mr Potter's hydra-headed bullying personalities.

But, Kamfong, since you have used "extreme" accusations to label my actions as "extreme"- I suggest you define the legal term "stalking" to justify *your* "extreme" reaction.
And maybe then you can explain your ridiculous "safety" concerns between two *anonymous* posters....dude. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jul 9, 2009 10:47 AM:

" Tom, I think you went a little off base here. The only reason I figure that HP changed his name was because of some of the downright nasty and mean posts by another. I don't believe he posted under multiple names at the same time. He used one at a time.

Granted he can "cut to the bone" but so can others here. At least he has a sense of humor and when push comes to shove he has agreed with the "opposition" on more than one occasion, even you Tom when he felt it was the right thing to do . He and I have "gone 'round and 'round" more than once.

Many of us may remember awhile back when our post names were being stolen by some troll who knew how to do this. I don't think the JG-TC ever figured out how this troll did it. It happened to me and others. Some changed their post names after this in an attempt to stop this.

I think Harry did the right thing by "fessing up" for lack of a better term to 7X's little expose'. He kind of threw a wet blanket on it. To those who want to use multiple names, have at it. It really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

I for one consider Harry a friend as well as some others here than I disagree with. I think of you as a friend too Tom and we DO agree more often than not. How dull it would be if everyone thought alike. We're free to express ourselves here. Not so in many places in the world. We need to be thankful for that . "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 10:52 AM:

" That's what Doggy Doh does, Kam, when's he's not busying morphing into several new beings like a malignant amoeba. "

Rockin Rotty wrote on Jul 9, 2009 11:19 AM:

" "Other nations must set their own course"

.......

"If you build it, they will come."

.......

By the way, thanks for the morning laughs, fellow "long time reg" posters.

Now I must clean up my tea mess.
LOL! "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:10 PM:

" FYI, the ACLU has fled suit to fight censorship of a book at Virginias Rappahannock Regional Jail. What do you right wingers say? Prisoners don't have any right to read any darned books, right?
This book is something called "the Bible." "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:39 PM:

" "I don't believe he posted under multiple names at the same time. He used one at a time."
------------

Let's wander down memory lane shall we Mrs Brant?

(Harry Potter wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:55 AM:

" Hey tammer65 and Dohbaugh, old Doh thinks you guys are me now. I hope you're not too insulted. LOL, and speaking of Dohbaugh, where is he at? I guess he got tired of all of this and is taking a bit of a break. ")

My goodness, what a little...shall we say, liar? "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:47 PM:

" "I think Harry did the right thing by "fessing up" for lack of a better term to 7X's little expose'. He kind of threw a wet blanket on it."
-----------

No Mrs Brant, Mr Potter was cornered. He had no choice but to "fess up". I made sure of that. "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:58 PM:

" Sp what did the CIA lie to Congress about? One theory is that it was Cheney's private "executive assassination ring," first reported by the investigative reporter Seymour Hersh. "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:59 PM:

" 7X6Z9, though I don't ordinarily address your ilk, I have a question for you. Who cares? "

father bob wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:00 PM:

" AlJazeera:

At least 50 people have been killed in Iraq in what is being described as the bloodiest day in the country since US troops pulled back from cities and towns.

Two suicide bombers struck the northern town of Tal Afar, killing at least 34 people, while in Baghdad, the capital, at least seven people died when two bombs hidden in market rubbish went off.

In the evening, a further nine people were killed in a blast in the Kasra district of the capital.

The number of people wounded in Thursday's attacks exceeds 125.

what was that cute little smirking phrase?.....oh yeah...

"Mission Accomplished!" "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:25 PM:

" "7X6Z9, though I don't ordinarily address your ilk, I have a question for you. Who cares?"
----------

Apparently you do, Question.

Why doth thou protest so much? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:30 PM:

" Thanks Billie. I quit using the name Dohbaugh about the time our friend stopped posting as Doh. You have to admit that it's rather strange for someone who obviously still uses several names would be so concerned about someone else changing their posting name. I really expect him to crow for days about it. I picked up on his poor self esteem a long time ago, so I guess everyone on here will have to be subjected to his patting himself on the back for a while. A while back when several of us caught up with his act we called him out for it and moved on, but I doubt that he has the ability to do that. It's going to be his beating a dead horse for a while. Crowing, stalking and and self congratulatory posts seems to be what he does best. Sorry for my fellow posters to have to read around his nonsense.

And I see he now thinks I'm kamfong too. LOL!

And for kam, we don't call him Sybil for nothing. "

father bob wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:39 PM:

" The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:59 PM:
" 7X6Z9, though I don't ordinarily address your ilk, I have a question for you. Who cares? """""

can you say BDD reincarnated? how long will this facade last? "

sophiesmom wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:45 PM:

" To Medic 57,If people were attacking my children like they have Sarah Palin's, I'd quit too. Plus, the stupid lawsuits put her 500,000 in debt and all she made was $125,000. They should have made the people who brought the charges pay the legal costs. Now, she can make speechs and make big money. The left wingers hated her because she brought so much energy to the ticket. And the late night comics made sure they made fun of all of them. How terrible to bring children into the fray. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:48 PM:

" " Harry, the ongoing meltdown of Sarah Palin ...? Are you trying to redefine the meaning of meltdown? If Sarah Palin is politically insignificant, why spend so much time trying to destroy her? "

Because it's fun, Tom. And hey, what better word describes her erratic and off the wall behavior and actions than meltdown?

What other politician holds press conferences and threatens to sue anyone who makes fun of them? You have to admit that's a tad extreme for a normal person.

I'm sure she will be doing something outragious before the day is over so I'll have more to add about the serial quitter later, so stayed tuned. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:55 PM:

" LONDON The tricks of the trade of Britain's rambunctious tabloid press came under scrutiny Thursday, after a newspaper reported that a tabloid owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch had illegally hacked into the mobile phones of hundreds of celebrities and politicians.
Huffington post-

No wonder the extremists on this site hate Huffington so much. She's the only one with guts enough to call the sinister Murdoch out. The other so called main stream media aren't touching this story. Don't expect to hear about it from Fox, you know the fair and unbalanced folks. lol...
yet. "

Rohn Gordon wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:01 PM:

" I missed how Billie knew doh was Harry?? "

father bob wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:15 PM:

" sophiesmom wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:45 PM:
"The left wingers hated her because she brought so much energy to the ticket."""""

are you sure it wasn't because she's an absolute moron and blithering fool? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:19 PM:

" ADN Confirms: Palin's Story Doesn't Hold up.

Greg Sargent reported on The Plum Line that one of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's key reasons for resigning -- that ethics complaints against her were draining the state of money -- appeared to be false.

In response to our questions, the Governor's office provided us with a detailed breakdown of the millions Palin has claimed has gone to defending against ethics complaints. It does list roughly $1.9 million in expenditures.

But Murrow, the spokesperson, acknowledged to our reporter, Amanda Erickson, that this total was arrived at by adding up attorney hours spent on fending off complaints -- based on the fixed salaries of lawyers in the governor's office and the Department of Law. The money would have gone to the lawyers no matter what they were doing. The complaints are "just distracting them from other duties," Murrow said.

In other words, while these lawyers might have been free to do other legal work for the state, the ethics complaints have apparently not had the real world impact Palin has claimed, and didn't drain money away from cops, teachers, roads and other things.

The Anchorage Daily News did a thorough analysis and backed up the spokesperson. The ethics complaints took up time that staff could have spent doing other work, but they did not cost Alaska any money.

Looks like Palin suffers from Pinocchio syndrome, Tom. Or was she just too stupid to understand how things work? Given her overall lack of understanding about things like the federal goverment (Department of Law) The Bush Doctrine (Deer in headlight reaction), world geography (Africa is a country) etc, I suspect it's the stupid factor coming into play here. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:22 PM:

" How terrible to bring children into the fray. "

Sorry mom, but she's the one who brought them into the fray. "

father bob wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:22 PM:

" wow....just exactly who archives conversations from 2007?

ROFLMAO!...7X...this proves you HAVE NO LIFE!...LMAO!

you have to admit though sitting in wait watching a blog for two years waiting to pounce is pretty sad! LMAO!!!

7X do you ever date? how about go to a movie? do you ever leave the trailer? LMAO!!!! "

bigapple wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:22 PM:

" I don't think Korea is a very good example to prove your point. S. Korea has developed into the 15th largest economy in the world. Meanwhile N. Korea has wasted away. Plus the mass exodus of N. Korean's seeking a better life in S. Korea would lead most to believe that a lot of good has occurred due to our involvement. N. Korea will not survive another 25years in it's current state.

Also, don't forget the American Revolution as we know it never would have been successful without the support of foreign influences.

There are certain situations that call for our involvement. The key is to make correct decisions on which ones we should be involved in and choose the correct course of action in dealing with each situation. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:28 PM:

" " I missed how Billie knew doh was Harry?? "

Rohn I was never Doh. I used to post as Dohbaugh. Doh is the multi named posted we call Sybil, currently posting as 7X6Z as well as several other pseudonyms. It does get a little confusing. lol! "

kamfong wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:30 PM:

" X-you take this crap to serious,I'm not HP but I made my comment based on what I read on this thread.As you can see I have know interest what-so ever with the political goings on back n forth,you just seem hell bent on exposing someones poster names and it looks kinda creepy.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see several posters use different names at times,have you not? which leads me to the question as to what's your point? Do you want a medal....or a chest to pin it on?lol dude. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:52 PM:

" Let us take another quick stroll down memory lane, shall we?

Here are just a handful of threads over the span of several months where Mr Potter deceptively played out his multi-named masquerade as he posted along side his "Dohbaugh" pseudonym:

http://tinyurl.com/mzyhpe

http://tinyurl.com/l2xw46

http://tinyurl.com/mqk6my

http://tinyurl.com/l8dju6

http://tinyurl.com/m48hsz

http://tinyurl.com/mfny4x

http://tinyurl.com/njwhzk

What have we learned? Simply this:

When Mr Potter (along with who knows how many other names he's using) throws out accusations, rest assure, he (they) are hypocritically guilty of the very deceptive practices that they harp against. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:02 PM:

" "X-you take this crap to serious,"
---------

On what, are you basing that assumption, Kamfong?

"you just seem hell bent on exposing someones poster names and it looks kinda creepy."
----------

Not as "creepy" as Mr Potter obsessively slinging accusations of the very deception that he has obviously engaged in- no?

"which leads me to the question as to what's your point?"
----------

Why do I need a point? What is your point for posting on here, Kamfong? Do you want a medal....or a chest to pin it on? .....dude? "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:10 PM:

" Dear father bob,

Hello Mr Potter. Will you be propping-up and providing cover for your Harry Potter alter-ego for the rest of the evening? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:10 PM:

" " wow....just exactly who archives conversations from 2007?

Maybe he's not the only one who keeps extensive files on his fellow posters, fb. I still say he must lead a very lonely life. As I predicted, he just keeps droning on and on and on and on. lol! "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:52 PM:

" I remember when they used to call "financial innovation" by its simpler name: con games. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:41 PM:

" I see where Sean Hannity of Fixed news got caught doctoring videos of Obama to distort his positions. Any thoughts on this Tom? "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:00 PM:

" " wow....just exactly who archives conversations from 2007?"
---------

Uhm.....father bob?...the *internet* "archives" conversations from 2007 and even earlier. Search engines are our friends. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:12 PM:

" "I still say he must lead a very lonely life."
---------

An interesting statement coming from you, Mr Potter. You're on this site day in and day out, week after week, on the vast majority of threads, covering just about every topic there is. And that's not counting your probable postings under your many other many monikers.

You remind me of a Liberal friend of mine; he's in his mid 60's, owns his own business (pertaining to legal record keeping you know), he's an insufferable partisan Liberal in the most obnoxious manner imaginable. He has an opinion on all things political, both local and national. But his favorite vice of all is his morning gossip sessions at the local coffee shop. He's quite the cackling old fence hen.

You could almost be his twin, Mr Potter ;-) "

D0HBAUGH wrote on Jul 9, 2009 10:30 PM:

" I think our friend Sybil needs to return to the decompression chamber. As I've predicted his droning has gone into a complete meltdown. Perhaps he could accompany the baracuda on the lecture circuit. I'm sure she's heard plenty of voices in her head. Perhaps Sybil can put her at ease. "

The Question wrote on Jul 9, 2009 11:13 PM:

" Levi Johnston says he thinks Sarah Palin resigned to make the cash register ring. He claims he heard the governor several times say how nice it would be to take advantage of the lucrative deals that were being offered, including a reality show and a book.
Naturally, Palin had to make up some phony reasons for why she abandoned her constituents. They were incoherent gibberish and easily disproven, but the gullible saps who worship the Quitter Queen will swallow anything. "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:07 AM:

" Well now, Mr Potter, it looks as though your "old" moniker of 'Dohbaugh' is still quite active. Now how many other names would you like to confess?

And thank you for playing along "Dohbaugh". I snap my fingers- and you jump. See how that works? And here I thought you were going to ignore me.

;-) "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 6:52 AM:

" Hey Tom, I hope you caught the article on the editorial page about Sarahquitter this morning. I particularly like the term the writer used to describe Sara's actions. It appears that I'm not the only one who uses that term. lol! "

The Question wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:49 AM:

" Those "Republican family values" at work. When you need to keep your mistress and her hubby quiet, just have your parents pay them $96,000, the way Sen. John Ensign did. "

father bob wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:17 AM:

" hehehe...7X,Doh,Bluedog,Stanley, etal

son, you really need to get a life and some serious therapy!....kick open that trailer door, get some fresh air. i'll bet you can find some little skank within the park to party down with!

life can be good if you let it.

LMAO!!!..... "

DOHBAUGH wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:26 AM:

" " "I don't believe he posted under multiple names at the same time. He used one at a time."

My my Ms Brant, you're even more gullible that I thought. So when are you going to acknowledge my brilliance and technologically superior skills? How about some praise for me for a change instead of the nice things you say about that wimp Potter? And please, no boring veteran stories. hee hee "

The Question wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:36 AM:

" Why is Sarah Palin the only governor in U.S. history to simply abandon her constituents, first term, without being forced out by scandal or health problems?
That's out of 1,200 people. Why is that, you worshipful subjects of the Quitter Queen? Is that the Republican ideal of "public service?" "

The Question wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:37 AM:

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:50 AM:

" In a conversation with the Huffington Post, Rep. Anna Eshoo, (D-Calif.), one of the letter's signatories, said that Panetta "stopped the program the day after he was informed." Waterboarding was ended as a practice during the Bush years.

So what are the "significant actions" that these seven lawmakers insist were kept from Congress? Another theory being bandied about concerns an "executive assassination ring" that was allegedly set up and answered to former Vice President Dick Cheney. The New Yorker's Seymour Hersh, building off earlier reporting from the New York Times, dropped news of the possibility that such a ring existed in a March 2009 discussion sponsored by the University of Minnesota.
Sam Stein-

If this story turns out to be true, even Fox news won't be able to defend Cheney, as they so often do. I still maintain the Cheney will ultimately wind up before a judge for his actions. It will be entertaining to watch the right wingers try to justify Cheney's actions if this is proven, after all they were willing to overlook human torture from the Bush/Cheney regime. "

The Question wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:52 AM:

" I understand from Andy Borowitz that unemployment has surged over the past two weeks in part because of the "forced layoffs of Republican mistresses."
More than 50,000 GOP hussies were reportedly furloughed during the two-week period ending July 3.
Dumping the strumpets. Very sad. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:03 PM:

" Vulnerable GOPs want Palin to stay home
By Molly K. Hooper

Republicans facing tough elections in 2010 dont want Sarah Palin campaigning with them.

Though the soon-to-be-former Alaska governor is seen as popular with the conservative grass roots, several Republicans said shed help them by staying home in Wasilla.

Oh no! Say it isn't so Tom.

Full text on Huffington, and you know you read it. lol... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:24 PM:

" Many of us may remember awhile back when our post names were being stolen by some troll who knew how to do this. I don't think the JG-TC ever figured out how this troll did it. It happened to me and others. Some changed their post names after this in an attempt to stop this.

Don't look now Billie but apparently he's back. Check out his post at 10:30 last night. The troll actually thinks he's fooling people with that message. I can only imagine what we're going to be subjected to in the days ahead. It looks like Sarah Palin isn't the only one in meltdown mode. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:44 PM:

" Naturally, Palin had to make up some phony reasons for why she abandoned her constituents. They were incoherent gibberish and easily disproven, but the gullible saps who worship the Quitter Queen will swallow anything. "

Good point, TQ. The millions of dollars worth of costs to Alaskans turned out to be a total fabrication on her, or her handlers, part. But as you say, she dishes it out and her ignorant follower's eat it up.

I don't know about you, but I hope and pray she gets the GOP nomination for 2012. Just watching her press conferences announcing her sueing someone else will be worth the price of a ticket. Go Sarah! lol! "

even steven wrote on Jul 10, 2009 12:56 PM:

" Leftist astroturfers busted!!! Hahaha...

You little Soros lickspittles are so weak and powerless. No wonder one guy has to pretend to be about a dozen different posters. "

theproletariat87 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:11 PM:

" Agreed! rebellion and revolution of their own kind is the only way for them to have an lasting republic. You can't install democratic republics, they must come from the people themselves. Those that may want help Gordon, will disdain it once their country is in a political power vacuum and instead of fearing their old over lords they will be fearing multiple groups. If it comes from the people they will be able to gain support from multiple factions, and have it be more grassroots rather than a outside installed government. "

The Question wrote on Jul 10, 2009 3:08 PM:

" The inspectors general are reporting that Bush's unlimited, unsupervised spy-on-Americans program was much broader than has ever been revealed. Welcome to the American police state, midwifed by your "freedom-loving" GOP pals. "

The Question wrote on Jul 10, 2009 3:24 PM:

" Rupert Murdochs News Group newspapers have paid out more than a million British pounds to settle lawsuits that could have revealed its journalists repeated involvement in illegal hacking into celebrities phones.
Fair and balanced and criminal. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:37 PM:

" Some Republicans have been chafing at the ideological wages of right-wing populism. In intel-lectual circles, writers like David Brooks and Richard Brookhiser have argued for a conservatism inspired by Alexander Hamilton, the least democratic of the Founding Fathers, over one spiritually rooted in Thomas Jefferson, the most democratic. After Barack Obama's victory, you heard thinkers like author and federal judge Richard Posner lamenting on his blog that "the face of the Republican Party had become Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Conservative intellectuals had no party."
Newsweek-

Judge Posner left of one important name to the new GOP face, Rush Limbaugh.

Goldwater, Reagan and Buckley are probably all turning over in their graves to see how low party his sunk to. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:42 PM:

" You little Soros lickspittles are so weak and powerless. No wonder one guy has to pretend to be about a dozen different posters. "

Seriously even, you shouldn't make comments about our friend Sybil like that... "

Blue Dog Democrat wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:47 PM:

" Harry Harry Harry, why you've got me out numbered 10 to 1, wouldn't you say? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:57 PM:

" For a while the Republican scandals were coming weekly, now they're coming almost daily. It couldn't get any worse for that bunch. I even saw where the woman running to head the Young Republican Organization got busted for posting racist comments on line. Apparently it's not just Palin melting down, I thing that whole party is in a state of meltdown.

Funny that none of these current scandals are barely making a blip on the Fox radar screen, and the main stream media isn't doing such a hot job either. Thank God for the Huffington post. Without them the current GOP meltdown would hardly be noticed. No wonder the right wingers detest that site so much. lol! "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:47 PM:

" My goodness, Mr Potter,

First you admit that you post as "Dohbaugh", then you use that moniker to insult me, but then you turn around to claim that *I* actually posted as "Dohbaugh" to insult myself?

When you snap Mr Potter, you certainly snap in a very serious way, don't you sir.

You have more in common with that Liberal friend of mine than I thought. That story hit a little too close to home didn't it Mr Potter. Perhaps you should learn to keep your sizable oral cavity closed a little more often when you're spewing politics at your morning coffee klatch. It's a small community you know.

;-) "

Tom Andres wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:47 PM:

" "Full text on Huffington, and you know you read it."

Riiiight, Harry! Sports Illustrated is about as far left as I go in reading material. LOL "

7X6Z9 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:52 PM:

" Let see now, if my calculations are accurate, Mr Potter should be about due to use one (or several) of his pseudonyms to voice "their" serious concerns of "stalking".

Will it be father bob? Kamfong? Lefty? Or one of the other myriad of names?

Let us wait and see. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:17 AM:

" An astute blogger had this to say about the Palin flap:

She flies around yipping about how much money is being wasted while citing supposed "facts" she hasn't checked? Sort of like she was doing when she was running around with McCain spreading stuff like "pallin' around with terrorists?" When are people like you going to finally wake up and realize she's a fake, a fraud, a bigot, a liar and just plain stupid? Put her on an iceberg headed north. Or team her up with the REAL GOP spokesman - Rush baby - and make it the "Limbo and Bimbo Hour."

This post is dedicated to my friend Tom Andres who seems to enjoy my regular Palin updates. lol! "

The Question wrote on Jul 11, 2009 9:35 AM:

" The first thing to remember about Obama is that his job is now an impossible one, because at least half the people he is expected to lead are crazy with fundamentalist delusions, ignorant and even contemptuous of science and reason, and completely maddened by the scent of blood and money. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:28 AM:

" Riiiight, Harry! Sports Illustrated is about as far left as I go in reading material. LOL "

Careful Tom, just remember what happened to Pinocchio, Tom. lol! "

The Question wrote on Jul 11, 2009 11:37 AM:

" Or, as Republican Sen. John Ensign would say, "Mommy! Mommy! Pay off my mistress, Mommy!!!" "

61912 wrote on Jul 11, 2009 11:56 AM:

" Oh my! Here we go again.....I thought this ended a couple of years ago. Now they've all been resurected....hope this time it doesn't last long.

Thank goodness for the regulars who seem to "know" each other as well as you can on a blog. "

theproletariat87 wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Is it just me or is anyone commenting on the letter besides a couple people?? Lets make these more relevant people. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jul 11, 2009 2:21 PM:

" This from Newsweek about the Attorney General, Eric Holder:

Holder, 58, may be on the verge of asserting his independence in a profound way. Four knowledgeable sources tell NEWSWEEK that he is now leaning toward appointing a prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration's brutal interrogation practices, something the president has been reluctant to do.

Is Cheney one step closer to jail? "

Bps wrote on Jul 11, 2009 3:24 PM:

" Harry Potter wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:28 PM:
" " I missed how Billie knew doh was Harry?? "

Rohn I was never Doh. I used to post as Dohbaugh. Doh is the multi named posted we call Sybil, currently posting as 7X6Z as well as several other pseudonyms. It does get a little confusing. lol! "
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HP is your use of We the royal we (your group of nom de plumes) or is it just your little group of liberal play pals on this site (all five or six of them)?

See, I am confused because you and your pals sound and think so much alike it is hard to tell you all apart.

HP, fb, and that Lakeland kid almost drove me nuts a few months back on this topic when they harassed BDD and a couple of others and I hate to see it come up again.

I understand the great irony in HP, FB, Dobaugh, or what ever going on and on and accusing others of doing it. We always hate our own sins the worst when we see them in others.

Besides, it allows those who use it (like HP, FB, etc.) to support themselves and not have to use logic and facts that relate to the thread.

OR as is his more usual tactic to steal or deflect the thread away from some inconvenient facts or points a fellow poster made to some meaningless drivel about Fox, Murdock, Palin, what some name a fellow forum member uses or something else far from the topic in play.

Nope, I would rather spend time on the real problems- you know HP how your beloved community organizer and the current rouges controlling congress have destroyed so many of our countys foundations in just six months!

Since you are on this site almost constently I must assume you are a man of leausre. I sure hope your leaving a lot to any kids or grandkids you might have because they are going to need it to pay off this mess YOUR guys have made.

Oh- I know your standard answer is all this is the Bush clown IIs fault right?

Hum your clown outspends his record spending by a factor of 4, doesnt stimulate anything with his stimulus plans except the banking elites bonuses and his community organizing friends, side steps congressional controls and appoints czars all over the place, illegally takes control of major portions of our free enterprise sectors, destroys the underpinnings of a free bond market, doesnt make a single change to the Homeland Security abomination but it is the past clowns fault.

Well, we are seeing green shoots right?

Oh, thats right they also lied about that. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:24 PM:

" I heard an excerpt from Obama's speech in Ghana today.

He said, "Businesses are not exactly going to want to invest in a country where the government skims 20% off the top."

A country whose government takes about 35% off the top though, is apparently just A-okay! LOL "

jrhendren wrote on Jul 16, 2009 5:53 AM:

" father bob wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:00 PM:
" AlJazeera:

At least 50 people have been killed in Iraq in what is being described as the bloodiest day in the country since US troops pulled back from cities and towns.

Two suicide bombers struck the northern town of Tal Afar, killing at least 34 people, while in Baghdad, the capital, at least seven people died when two bombs hidden in market rubbish went off.

In the evening, a further nine people were killed in a blast in the Kasra district of the capital.

The number of people wounded in Thursday's attacks exceeds 125.

what was that cute little smirking phrase?.....oh yeah...

"Mission Accomplished!" "

Leave it to Bob to quote from a known terrorist friendly news source. I'm not saying that Bush spoke to soon, but at least I don't quote from the enemy. Maybe next time you can get a quote from Bin Laden I'm sure he believes the same as you. Especially since in one of his tapes he backed Gore. "

jrhendren wrote on Jul 16, 2009 5:57 AM:

" It's sad when someone believes the only way they can get support on their belief is to use another name. It's also sad that people treat a discussion forum for a small town paper like it is going to change minds, and save the world. Come on people grow up. How childish can you get, having "make believe friends" defend your argument. "