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Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:11 PM CDT
Police: Driver avoided overpass on morning of bus accident



MATTOON — The driver of the double-decker bus involved in the weekend deaths of two men told police he “managed to avoid the overpasses that morning,” but a food stop request sent the bus to Illinois Route 16 in the evening.

That was part of the account of bus driver John F. Protz of Lerna, according to the Mattoon Police Department accident report on the Saturday incident.

Moments after leaving the Charleston Avenue McDonald’s restaurant, the bus drove under the Interstate 57 overpass bridge and two passengers were killed. Justin Sleezer of Yorkville and Cameron Chana of Clarendon HIlls, both 22, suffered massive head injuries at 7:24 p.m. Saturday as they were reportedly standing in the upper deck of the bus, operated by Lincoln Springs Resort and Tours of Charleston.

They both died the next morning at Carle Foundation Hospital of Urbana after an overnight transfer from Sarah Bush Lincoln Health Center.

“The route they took back to Charleston was different than the one they took in the morning, but we’re not sure if there was one route set for it,” said Mattoon Deputy Police Chief Adam Weinstock, who is investigating the double fatality.

A spokeswoman for Lincoln Springs said the bus has traveled under the I-57/Route 16 overpass before without incident, but she declined to answer additional questions on the incident.

Lincoln Springs manager David Kirsch was not available for comment.

The bus has a height of more than 13 feet. The clearance of the overpass at Route 16 is 13 feet, 11 inches, according to signs posted on the bridges.

A spokesman with IDOT said any road overpasses with clearance of less than 16 feet are required to post clearance measurement signs.

“We have different accounts on the behavior of the passengers. One thing that seems a consistent theme is the passengers were standing up at different times during the trip and before the accident,” said Weinstock.

The bus, which the police report said is insured by Graywood Foundation of Charleston, was rented to an individual for taking a group of young people, including Eastern Illinois University students, on a day-long trip to Lake Shelbyville, the Lincoln Springs spokeswoman confirmed.

The deaths occurred as the bus was eastbound toward Charleston on the return trip, and the victims were facing away from the overpass as the bus traveled at 45 mph along Route 16, based on information in the accident report released Tuesday by police.

“There’s no indication there was much time to react as the bus approached. It seems to have taken everyone by surprise,” Weinstock said.

Protz said he heard people screaming and asking him to drive to the hospital seconds after he passed under the overpass bridge. “They had a guy bleeding,” Protz stated in the report.

He then slowed down as one passenger asked him to pull over so he could call his father, who is a doctor. Before he could stop, Protz then accelerated again as another passenger urged him to drive directly to the emergency room at SBLHC due to the condition of both victims in the upper deck, according to the police report.

When the bus arrived outside the emergency room, hospital staff responded and they were joined by ambulance personnel and firefighters from the Mattoon fire station at Coles County Memorial Airport.

Weinstock said his department was contacted about 30 minutes after the incident occurred. He said that has complicated the post-accident investigation. His department lists the potential passenger list at more than 20 for now, but that could change.

That number is different than the one quoted by other sources.

“When the bus made it to the hospital, people went their own way to call parents and check on friends. That is not surprising, but it is making it hard to complete some interviews,” Weinstock said.

Alcohol was consumed during the day by some passengers on the bus, but Weinstock said it is not certain if that was a factor in causing the fatalities.

“Alcohol use as a factor in this is just speculation at this time,” Weinstock said.

Contact Herb Meeker at hmeeker@jg-tc.com ore 238-6869.


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misfit2 wrote on Jun 3, 2009 7:14 AM:

" being a bus driver myself, john did exactly as we were taught to do in an emergency situation-he knew he was very near to the hospital. he did the right thing. God rest their souls but he shouldn't have to keep telling a 22yr old to remain seated. were the other people on top watching them stand the whole time? why didnt someone warn them the overpass was coming up? "

Big T wrote on Jun 3, 2009 8:30 AM:

" It is an awful chain of events which transpired on Saturday night, costing these young men their lives. Hindsight is 20/20, and the what ifs will haunt all of the parties involved forever. Heartfelt condolences to the families and friends of the two men who passed, as well as those young people who witnessed the accident. Also, for the driver, who will be criticized, chastized, and blamed by many for the death of these young people. He is a very kind and giving man, and will undoubtedly be deeply affected by the events of that night. "

das wrote on Jun 3, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Maybe I missed it, but has Graywood even released a statement of sympathy on this incident? As a pr guy, I would expect Graywood to release a statement along the lines of, "We're terrible sadden this accident occurred... our hearts are with the victim's families and friends... we're investigating this accident to ensure all proper procedures were carried out...etc" However, I have yet to see any type of statement like this. I went to their website to look for any type of news releases and alas, found none. I also find it interesting that they have spoken nothing about the rules of the bus or even if standing on the top is prohibited and or if that is posted on the bus. The spokesperson states that this bus has gone under the I-57 overpass before, but fails to mention if any passengers were on the bus at the time. This also brings up the question of if the bus driver avoided the overpass the first time, why go under it the second time? The food stop is not an excuse, he could have easily taken a right on Dettro, a left onto Country Club Road, a left onto Old State, a left on Lerna Road, and then a right back onto 16. "

medic57 wrote on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM:

" Maybe I missed it, but has Graywood even released a statement of sympathy on this incident?

And you won't either, they will clam up, I wonder if the bus driver has been fired, that's the norm for Graywood. Get rid of the people who might cause them problems. "

outsider wrote on Jun 3, 2009 4:24 PM:

" graywood foundation did issue a statement that was on the tv news the following Sunday night. "

devilishangel61401 wrote on Jun 3, 2009 6:15 PM:

" Thanks Outsider, I saw that on the news too. I've met the owner of Graywood a few times and he seems like a geniunely nice man. Very compassionate and caring I am certain he feels just terrible about this entire tragedy. My son is a Graywood Client and we chose Graywood because truthfully their group home was among the best ones that I visited in the entire state and I visited several homes before I made my decision. Graywood was one of the few that allowed me into the "residence homes" to look around, to meet some of the staff and to get a "feel" for the place. When I came down for my first visit I got to meet the owner, and I met him on my subsequent three visits as well, and he was wonderful each time. Since my son has been a resident I've bumped into the owner when he's been visiting the homes and he is always wonderful, compasstionate and caring.
Rather than using this as a "let's bash on Graywood" moment (because I've seen that on another thread about this story too) let's focus on how safe any of these types of buses really are. I personally wasn't at the accident and I didn't see it so I don't want to lay blame anywhere until I know all of the facts involved. I did do some checking and have found at least three other incidents where this type of double decker open top bus has been involved in other accidents in other states and even one in London. Now until this tragic accident occured I had never thought of this type of vehicle as "unsafe" I had asumed that if these types of buses were "unsafe" they would never be allowed to be used I know I am not the only person who probaly thought of these vehicles as safe transportation. I really hope that this accident is fully investigated and that all of the nessecary precautions are taken so that nothing like this happens again.

This entire event was a tragedy for everyone involved, my heartfelt condolences go out to everyone who has been touched by this event. "

acidburn wrote on Jun 4, 2009 12:11 AM:

" devilishangel61401

Sorry to tell you this, but Augi is a geniunely nice man. Very compassionate and caring only because your son is a client there. Trust me, I know him.

You said, Now until this tragic accident occured I had never thought of this type of vehicle as "unsafe" I had asumed that if these types of buses were "unsafe" they would never be allowed to be used.

I suppose that a Convertable Corvette that goes 205 miles per hour is just as safe. "

HeinekenMan wrote on Jun 4, 2009 8:26 AM:

" Acidburn,

It is illegal to drive a Corvette convertible 205 mph. They have speed limits specifically to ensure driver safety. What folks are wondering is whether we can institute some laws and regulations to eliminate these types of bus accidents.

This is a terrible tragedy, and we owe it to the two young men to look at how we can make sure this never happens again.

That's all I'm concerned with.

As for the bus driver, he did nothing that was legally wrong. Did he make some errors in judgment? Well, that's something that a court will decide.

But I can certainly see his side of the whole thing. I make mistakes all the time. And he had some particular hurdles to overcome. He was forced to adjust his route, and, I assume, he was dealing with some drunken kids who weren't following the rules. It's difficult to stay clear-headed and calm in those circumstances.

I just think we should look at the overall safety issues. And it's my opinion that the organization operating the bus service is going to pay through the nose. I don't think civil suits achieve much. After all, it doesn't address the problem so much as penalize people who were following the law. But that's not going to stop some lawyer from making a fat check. "

acidburn wrote on Jun 4, 2009 11:29 AM:

" And he had some particular hurdles to overcome. He was forced to adjust his route.

He was in charge of driving, who forced him?

I assume, he was dealing with some drunken kids who weren't following the rules.

Then he should have called home base or the police. "

Hammbone wrote on Jun 4, 2009 3:38 PM:

" I think the man driving the bus did his job well. He is a bus driver, not baby sitter, referee,hand holder. There comes a point in life when people have to take responcibility for their actions. Bad as it is, I can hardly hold the Driver for this. He made his statement not to stand on the upper level.If those that do not care to listen,or ignore,or too drunk to understand,then maybe they shouldnt have been on the bus to begin with. Common sence here people rules the day. Wernt these 2 college educated. Suppose to be smarter than just High school grads. Common sence tells me to be seated I think I will sit still. I havent seen this bus, but I'm guessing that it has a sign stating that too.People can get killed many different ways,just walking accross the street can be dangerous. Common sence tells me not to cross the street with traffic coming. Common sence tells a tower climber to hold on with both hands while climbing.People going through life with iggnorant bliss to what is going on around themselves desirve what they get. Try that iggnorant bliss on a flight deck of a U.S. aircraft carrier and you become fod ,or chum,or worce. You cant blame the driver of the bus,he's not baby sitter,his job title is BUS DRIVER, He made a statement and it was ignored,Clearly not his fault. "

mslisa66 wrote on Jun 4, 2009 8:14 PM:

" What exactly does the statement from the driver mean....The driver of the double-decker bus involved in the weekend deaths of two men told police he managed to avoid the overpasses that morning, ?? Does this mean he knew of the danger of that overpass and avoided that morning?? What route did the driver take that morning to Shelbyville? I sure would like to see that rental contract that I'm assuming these kids had to sign, if there even was a rental agreement. "

leatherneck wrote on Jun 5, 2009 9:51 AM:

" Hi
Medic57 why fire the bus driver he did nothing wrong. the two young men shouldn't have stood up. "

kamfong wrote on Jun 7, 2009 10:46 AM:

" mslisa66" I sure would like to see the rental aggreement" mmmmmmmmmmmm. Why? are U an ambulance chaser? "

 


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