" Why do you listen to him then ? Do you always listen to people you don't agree with or like. Who's the one on drugs here? I would imagine half of our so-called elected officials are on some kind of drug as everytime they open their mouths,it's a lie. So don't get all worked up over some radio talk show person who makes more money in a day then most of us make in a year.
Go listen to some liberal radio talk show. Whoops-- forgot their aren't any. "

" The sad thing is that people get their news from places like Rush and Fox. Rush Limbaugh and Fox news are the Professional Wrestling of political commentary, it's ENTERTAINMENT, not REALITY. Believing in anything that comes out of this form of media is like believing in Hulk Hogan. "

" Rumor has it that Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber are waiting in the wings just in case Limbaugh gets busted for illegal drugs or solicitation again, and the party has to come up with a new leader.

Palin's platform will be instilling family values in your children, and Joe will focus on our moral obligation and responsibility to pay our taxes. "

" Why does the Republican party need so many spin doctors? Dave Ramsey, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Riley, Sean Hanity, Fox News, Ann Coulter. If Republican policys were good for America they wouldn't need these liars. "

" Right on JESUS/ Rush= oink oink. "

" jesus wrote on Mar 17, 2009 4:58 AM:
"Go listen to some liberal radio talk show. Whoops-- forgot their aren't any. """"

jesus, jesus....don't you have anywhere else to "hang" out?

and while we're on the talkshow topic, why don't you have your daddy cast a plague or something to rid us of the vermin limbaugh.

on the other hand, if you're really "Haysoos".....have ya got any good burrito recipes? "

" yes, the stuttering baffoon of a White House press secretary started blasting former VP Cheney, since their Limbaugh distraction failed to work. Can anyone remember the White House stooping so low as to make personal attacks such as these in other administrations? Yeah, I thought so.

Shouldn't they be concentrating on other issues? "

" Fox news appeals to the same crowd as Limbaugh, angry old white men. And sadly, many of the Fox fans consider Limbaugh's blathering as actual news too.

And speaking of blathering, it looks like the emotionally unstable Glen Beck is about to take over Billo the clown's spot as the top cable news comedian. Since Beck moved over to Fox and they allowed him to say and do what ever he wants, the Fox zealots are eating him up and old Billo appears to be about to lose his coveted top spot. The best part is how Beck bumped Hannity down to third place within a matter of weeks, even dumping the liberal from Hannity's show didn't seem to help him. Ya gotta love it. "

" Moral obligations to pay his taxes? I don't think you want to go there, Harry. At least he might be considered to be part of Obama's team since he didn't pay his taxes. "

" Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict who goes on foreign sex tours, loudmouths about morality and principles on the radio.
Republicans are like Bizarros. Everything they denounce, they secretly do. And everything they endorse, they secretly despise. That's why "values voters" always come off as such nasty swine. "

" Rock on, Rush. The libs don't like to hear the truth and are afraid of you which is why they squeal. Even our spender-in-chief must be quaking the way he keeps trying to put Rush down. "

" Can anyone remember the White House stooping so low as to make personal attacks such as these in other administrations?

Yeah, glad you asked, eddie. I seem to recall something about an enemies list under one of our former presidents. Have you forgotten about Tricky Dickie so soon? "

" A "stuttering baffoon," Ed? What's a "baffoon?"
I continue to be amazed that people who don't seem to understand basic terms in the English language think they are qualified to comment on public policy. "

" sapient wrote on Mar 17, 2009 10:35 AM:
" Rock on, Rush. The libs don't like to hear the truth and are afraid of you which is why they squeal."""""

you must be thinking of eddie and BDDorothy...the "deliverance" buddies. "

" just wondering wrote on Mar 17, 2009 10:00 AM:

" Moral obligations to pay his taxes? I don't think you want to go there, Harry


Not to defend anyone who doesn't pay their taxes, but I suspect there is probably a big difference is someone who had multiple income sources and hires tax accountants and other experts to figure their taxes than some one who probably only had a couple of W-2's and some unemployment stubs to work with, JW. I would think the chance of error would be greater for the former, don't you think?

I also think that if the Swiss banks ever cooperated with our goverment, we would find all sort of tax dodging going on, and some of those would no doubt be some of the critics who were so loud over some of the Obama's nominations. "

" Rush Limbaugh currently has a live in girlfried, yeah that's right, a female this time, about half his age. So much for family values, huh? "

" you must be thinking of eddie and BDDorothy...the "deliverance" buddies. "


Ouch!

Which one plays the banjo? "

" Now that Bush is out of office, Democrats desperately need a new "Emmanual Goldstein" at whom to direct their daily two minutes of hate. During the past election, Sarah Palin was the "Emmanual Goldstein" of the moment.

Leftist simpletons eat up this sort of propaganda, but that's probably because leftists are half-wits... all of them. They wouldn't be leftists otherwise. Everyone except them knows this.

Obama and his pea-brained minions could screw up a one-car parade, so they need a diversion and distraction to take the heat off themselves. They aimed at Rush Limbaugh and missed, but that's just because Rush is smarter than they are... and they hate that about him. "

" Could be Harry, but I would think you wouldn't makes someone Secretary of Treasury that couldn't figure out their own taxes no matter how many sources their income came from. Viva la change. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 17, 2009 12:19 PM:
" Rush Limbaugh currently has a live in girlfried, yeah that's right, a female this time, about half his age. So much for family values, huh? """"

i'm betting el-rushbo is more interested in her son. "

" small minds small pleasures "

" offended, aggravated lol, heck I simply don't watch Rush, I feel more intelligent watching scooby doo lol "

" sorry Mr. Speak and Spell.

how's this?


Main Entry:
buffoon Listen to the pronunciation of buffoon
Pronunciation:
\(ˌ)bə-ˈfn\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle French bouffon, from Old Italian buffone
Date:
1585

1 : a ludicrous figure : clown
2 : a gross and usually ill-educated or stupid person
3 : Idiot White House press secretaries who try to attack private citizens to distract the public, while his administration bankrupts the country. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 17, 2009 12:13 PM:
" Not to defend anyone who doesn't pay their taxes, but I suspect there is probably a big difference is someone who had multiple income sources ... I would think the chance of error would be greater for the former, don't you think?"

Oh right Harry, great excuse. A guy who can't figure out how to pay taxes on his "multiple income sources" is great choice to head up the world's largest economy. But hey, at least you are trying to make up lame excuses for the idiots in office now. "

" HP you are a real piece of work. You obviously watch Beck, Hannity and Bill because you know all about them.They at least speak the truth of your idols like Obama and his tribe of spenders. "

" OINK OINK "

" I'm not offended by Rush

You can't be offended by someone you don't listen to. "

" on the other hand, if you're really "Haysoos".....have ya got any good burrito recipes? "
___________________________________

"lol"-- Got some "angel" cake recipes.

I released the obama plague. Got to give it time to work. Vengence is mine saith the lord. "

" (CBS)Over the past few weeks, the White House has been casting right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh as the head of the Republican Party, and based on a new CBS News poll, it appears they may be onto something: According to the poll, Limbaughs favorable rating stands at just 19 percent, a full 43 points lower than President Obamas.

Limbaughs unfavorable rating, meanwhile, stands at 40 percent, while 41 percent say they dont know or dont have an opinion. Not surprisingly, the conservative commentator, who has said he hopes that the presidents economic policies fail, is far more popular with Republicans 47 percent view him favorably than with Democrats, just seven percent of whom view him favorably.

The poll also found that Republicans are relatively pessimistic about the future of their party. Just 40 percent believe the party is going in the right direction, while nearly as many 36 percent say it is going in the wrong direction. Among all Americans, just 27 percent say the party is going in the right direction and 48 percent say it is going in the wrong direction.

In March 1994 right before the Republican takeover of Congress views were quite different. A Gallup/CNN/USA Today taken at the time found that 58 percent believed the Republican leadership was taking the party in the right direction while just 24 percent thought it was headed in the wrong direction.

--------------

Limbaugh may not be an elected official of the government, but his party seems to have chosen him to speak for them. But have they really? Perhaps he just speaks for the minority of extremists within that party. But so far anyone else who has objected to him has backed down, and that includes the chairman of the RNC.

Limbaugh has has no effect on any elections, despite his claim of being responsible for the Republicans getting the House back in '94.

If the Republicans have any hope of returning to power, sticking with the ideology of the Rush Limbaugh's of their party seems to be wrongheaded, and will no doubt escalate their demise from power.

Limbaugh is a dinosaur who survives by appealing to the hate and anger in so many folks, particularly bitter old white men, who seem to feel they and their ideas are irrelevant in todays world, such as the ones who post on here and rant and rail about our current president. "

" jesus wrote on Mar 17, 2009 8:18 PM:
"I released the obama plague. Got to give it time to work. Vengence is mine saith the lord. """""

good....i'll look for republicans to start dropping. "

" That sad part about this is some people actually believe he's telling the truth. "

" usmcvet wrote on Mar 17, 2009 5:43 PM:

" HP you are a real piece of work. You obviously watch Beck, Hannity and Bill because you know all about them.They at least speak the truth of your idols like Obama and his tribe of spenders. "

Of course I watch all of them. Watching all of the opinion shows, both right and left is what you do when you want to be truly informed. I'm betting you can't say that, now can you. Your TV is no doubt stuck on Fox news, isn't it? I'm also betting you're a big Limbaugh, Sean Insanity, Beck and Billo the clown fan fan too. How about it, vet? "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 17, 2009 11:50 AM:
" Can anyone remember the White House stooping so low as to make personal attacks such as these in other administrations?

Yeah, glad you asked, eddie. I seem to recall something about an enemies list under one of our former presidents. Have you forgotten about Tricky Dickie so soon?"


Well, glad you finally see what caliber of Presidents that Obama stoops to compare with. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 18, 2009 9:24 AM:
" usmcvet wrote on Mar 17, 2009 5:43 PM:

" HP you are a real piece of work. You obviously watch Beck, Hannity and Bill because you know all about them.They at least speak the truth of your idols like Obama and his tribe of spenders. "

Of course I watch all of them.



" The Question wrote on Feb 16, 2009 6:32 AM:
" Now, I know most of the people who watch Fox News are just stupid." "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 18, 2009 9:24 AM:

" usmcvet wrote on Mar 17, 2009 5:43 PM:

" HP you are a real piece of work. You obviously watch Beck, Hannity and Bill because you know all about them.They at least speak the truth of your idols like Obama and his tribe of spenders. "

Of course I watch all of them. Watching all of the opinion shows, both right and left is what you do when you want to be truly informed. I'm betting you can't say that, now can you. Your TV is no doubt stuck on Fox news, isn't it? I'm also betting you're a big Limbaugh, Sean Insanity, Beck and Billo the clown fan fan too. How about it, vet? "


...must be a part of BLUEDOG's banjo society, I'll bet ole' yeller dog has a confederate flag hanging in her kitchen, heritage not hate right BLUEDOG lol, her heritage must consist of the Benedict bloodline "

" " The Question wrote on Feb 16, 2009 6:32 AM:
" Now, I know most of the people who watch Fox News are just stupid." "
--
I said "most," Ed. Not "all." Harry is one of the minority of intelligent people who watch that wretched fascist propaganda channel. I suspect he believes in keeping his friends close, and his enemies closer.
I don't watch it myself, but I monitor it, on the same principle. "

" (jrussell - "...must be a part of BLUEDOG's banjo society, I'll bet ole' yeller dog has a confederate flag hanging in her kitchen, heritage not hate right BLUEDOG lol, her heritage must consist of the Benedict bloodline ")

Golly junior,

Is that some of your "open-minded" thinking that you were lecturing me about?

Weren't YOU the one who called ME a reactionary, kid?

Interesting criticism from a burnt-out failed guitar-player who still lives at home with mommy and daddy.

When are you finally going to get a JOB kid?

And I don't mean tax-payer subsidized college "work" classes.

I mean a REAL JOB. "

" Apparently my comments went over the private eddie's head, TQ.

eddies not very original, so when he thinks he's got something like the Fox comment, he has a tendency to hang onto it. Unoriginal and simple folks seem to do that a lot on here.

I just have never been able to understand how anyone, from either the left or the right, could form a good opinion without looking at all points of view. Some folks on this site, like Tommy A openly boast about only watching Fox news, and I suspect he's not the only one. That's one of the reasons I like to watch Fox, I want to know what the radical right is thinking.

Does an intelligent person make a major decision without looking at all of his options?

And keep in mind, I believe it was eddie who was saying that Billo the Clown is not a conservative just the other day. That in itself should tell us something about his understanding of the issues. lol! "

" ...must be a part of BLUEDOG's banjo society, I'll bet ole' yeller dog has a confederate flag hanging in her kitchen, heritage not hate right BLUEDOG lol, her heritage must consist of the Benedict bloodline "


Yeah, but he'll have to play backup to private miller and aunt Dorothydog, who are fighting it out to see who gets to play lead banjo.

I would certainly want to be upwind of that bunch when they do finally get together for their family reunion.

I did hear that the producers of the movie "Deliverance" turned down Dorothy's request to hold their annual family reunion on the set of that movie. Too bad because most of the Blowdog tribe was there already. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 18, 2009 3:26 PM:
"I did hear that the producers of the movie "Deliverance" turned down Dorothy's request to hold their annual family reunion on the set of that movie. Too bad because most of the Blowdog tribe was there already. """""

what a great photo op....73 people and 8 teeth.....LMAO!! "

" Oh my,

Harry and fatHeadBobby (The BrokeBack Mountain Boys) are busy covering each others arses again.

OH *SNAP!*

You go girls! "

" Tell us Harry,

How long have you and Bobby been married?

Oh and, did you ever provide your phone number and address when Ed Miller called you out?

Isn't it strange Harry?

You'll openly call a veteran like Ed a liar,

but you'll virtually babysit a 23 year old unemployed trailer-trash burn-out.

Funny that. "

" what a great photo op....73 people and 8 teeth.....LMAO!! "

Come on now, fb. No need to exaggerate, I heard there was close to 20 teeth among the whole brood, and at least a dozen pairs of shoes.

I think the sheriff's department could probably serve a couple dozen warrants too. "

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 18, 2009 3:06 PM:

" (jrussell - "...must be a part of BLUEDOG's banjo society, I'll bet ole' yeller dog has a confederate flag hanging in her kitchen, heritage not hate right BLUEDOG lol, her heritage must consist of the Benedict bloodline ")

Golly junior,

Is that some of your "open-minded" thinking that you were lecturing me about?

Weren't YOU the one who called ME a reactionary, kid?

Interesting criticism from a burnt-out failed guitar-player who still lives at home with mommy and daddy.

When are you finally going to get a JOB kid?

And I don't mean tax-payer subsidized college "work" classes.

I mean a REAL JOB. "



...when I get my MASTERS DEGREE and continue to work against the ignorance of society a.k.a. YOU, does it sadden you that a 23 year olds sights are already set farther than yours are now, as an old timer, and I happen to be an awesome guitar player a thank you lol, burnt out, yup a little from listening to all that barking your doing, let's see some action BBD, be real DUDE "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 18, 2009 3:26 PM:

" ...must be a part of BLUEDOG's banjo society, I'll bet ole' yeller dog has a confederate flag hanging in her kitchen, heritage not hate right BLUEDOG lol, her heritage must consist of the Benedict bloodline "


Yeah, but he'll have to play backup to private miller and aunt Dorothydog, who are fighting it out to see who gets to play lead banjo.

I would certainly want to be upwind of that bunch when they do finally get together for their family reunion.

I did hear that the producers of the movie "Deliverance" turned down Dorothy's request to hold their annual family reunion on the set of that movie. Too bad because most of the Blowdog tribe was there already. "



...hmmm...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, wait almost done, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, ok done "

" "BlueDog"...We got the "Village People" cracking on our finely tuned blue grass band and all they can do is bring up their "fantasy anthem" to deliverance.

Somebody needs a hug...and a new head dress with fancy feathers, and a hard hat......when's your next show fellows?
And don't give us "we broke up crap"
I bet Potter looks fantastic in leather......Hi ladies!!! "

" oldschool wrote on Mar 18, 2009 7:26 PM:

" "BlueDog"...We got the "Village People" cracking on our finely tuned blue grass band and all they can do is bring up their "fantasy anthem" to deliverance.


Looks like old school it hinting for an invite to BBD's family reunion. Don't worry oldie, Dorothy's going to invite all of the hillbilly's that post on here to her little get together. And as much schmoozing with her as you've been doing, you're sure to get a personal invitation.

And why are you standing idly by while she's getting beat to a pulp by a young college kid? Shouldn't you be coming to her defense? You're going to have to turn that little cheerleader outfit in if you don't get with it. "

" I bet Potter looks fantastic in leather......

What?


Seriously, old school, I would rather you left me out of your fantasies.

thank you... "

" (Harry - "Seriously, old school, I would rather you left me out of your fantasies")


Yes Old School.

Fantasizing about Harry is junior's and FatHeadBobby's jobs.

Thank you. "

" Was that leather and bondage accessories?? "

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 18, 2009 8:26 PM:

" (Harry - "Seriously, old school, I would rather you left me out of your fantasies")


Yes Old School.

Fantasizing about Harry is junior's and FatHeadBobby's jobs.

Thank you. "


...ah did we steal your thunder lol "

" Rohn Gordon wrote on Mar 18, 2009 9:23 PM:

" Was that leather and bondage accessories?? "

...ya know I'll bet BBD's real name is CREEPY MCGEE, yes, yes I know BBD didn't say it but c'mon what else do you call spending your day in a 23 year old guys photo folder lol "

" LMAO @ NJ
Come on Oldschool admit it you just busted a LOL also when you read that. "

" Have any of you posters read the following rules about posting here???(See below if you forgot)It's right above the post box. Note the 3rd one. Yet this is all we read on here. Just discuss the subject and leave out the name calling and insults. NO ONE is perfect, not even you. (or me)

No comment may contain:
* Potentially libelous statements; such as accusing somebody of a crime, defamation of character, or statements that can harm somebody's reputation.
* Obscene, explicit, or racist language.
* Personal attacks, insults, threats, harassment or inciting violence.
* Commercial product promotions. "

" (jrussell - "...ya know I'll bet BBD's real name is CREEPY MCGEE, yes, yes I know BBD didn't say it but c'mon what else do you call spending your day in a 23 year old guys photo folder lol")

You mean the public pages on MySpace, junior?

But but but, I thought you were challenging everyone to be completely open and honest about their lives, junior?

What changed, Burn-Out?

LMAO "

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 19, 2009 8:47 AM:
"but who CALLED OTHERS COWARDS FOR NOT SHARING PERSONAL DETAILS ABOUT THEIR OWN LIVES.

Can you believe the dishonesty of this kid? """""



what i can't believe is that an "adult" worked for 3 days to coerce personal information from someone on-line. this smacks of perversion to be quite honest.

personal haranguing by you, BBD, borders on stalking and harassment.

your conduct is a detriment to this site, and your IP should be banned. "

" *Tsk tsk*

Calm down there Bobby.

On the contrary;

Any information that I accessed was completely legal and was easily found in THE FREE AND OPEN PUBLIC PAGES OF MYSPACE.

Now a challenge to junior:

You berated other posters in here for NOT being as open about their personal lives as you have been.

To that end, I challenge you to provide a url to the two MySpace pages that mention you in order to PROVE that you have nothing to hide.

Lest anyone think that you are a complete and utter, hypocritical coward.

Put up or shut up kid. "

" Calm down fatherbobby,

nobody's trying to steal your boyfriend.

LMAO "

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 19, 2009 10:04 AM:

" (jrussell - "...ya know I'll bet BBD's real name is CREEPY MCGEE, yes, yes I know BBD didn't say it but c'mon what else do you call spending your day in a 23 year old guys photo folder lol")

You mean the public pages on MySpace, junior?

But but but, I thought you were challenging everyone to be completely open and honest about their lives, junior?

What changed, Burn-Out?

LMAO "

...not a thing lol tell me one instance in where you have caught me NOT being honest or open, can we say the same for you, NO because your just not a risk taker, are you afraid of the community you so humbly blog about? "

" father bob wrote on Mar 19, 2009 10:36 AM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 19, 2009 8:47 AM:
"but who CALLED OTHERS COWARDS FOR NOT SHARING PERSONAL DETAILS ABOUT THEIR OWN LIVES.

Can you believe the dishonesty of this kid? """""



what i can't believe is that an "adult" worked for 3 days to coerce personal information from someone on-line. this smacks of perversion to be quite honest.

personal haranguing by you, BBD, borders on stalking and harassment.

your conduct is a detriment to this site, and your IP should be banned. "


...I agree, BBD dares threaten to turn me in to drug task force for a picture of Jeff Spicoli (which is a reflection of that intellect of yours) and continues to stalk me, if I am so silly and my thoughts are so ridiculous then why do you feel the need to search for something to use against me, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING lol "

" Rohn Gordon wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:29 AM:

" LMAO @ NJ
Come on Oldschool admit it you just busted a LOL also when you read that. "



...yup way to keep bringing yourself down ROHN lol, you unfortunately do post under your real name so I would be worried of people thinking less of you whereas old yeller likes to keep her ignorance a secret "

" ( "...I agree, BBD dares threaten to turn me in to drug task force for a picture of Jeff Spicoli")


Uhm junior?

I never mentioned anyone's name in reference to the drug task force post.

So.....why are you responding to it?


("and continues to stalk me,")

You've been "stalking" ME junior.

You started chasing me around this site early last month challenging me to provide personal information about myself (I even cited the thread where you started this) while at the same time YOU have been more than willing to sharing some rather intimate details about your own private life.

Actually you shared more than I ever cared to read.

You have clearly been harassing ME and I would like to know when you are going to cease with these antics?

Are you ready to stop harassing me for personal information about my private life, junior?

Or are you going to continue with this childish behavior? "

" Oh by the way junior,

does this mean that fatherbob thinks I outsmarted you?

(fatherbob - "to coerce personal information from someone") "

" After all their lying big talk "outrage" about the AIG bonuses, 87 Republicans voted AGAINST taking them back through taxes, joined by only six Democrats.
GOP loudmouth hypocrisy reigns supreme. The Republicans have slavishly and relentlessly supported "deregulation" and turning over the keys of the U.S. Treasury to the wealthy corporate interests who pull their strings and make them dance.
Now that they have been kicked into the political gutter by the voters, the Republicans vocally oppose THEIR OWN POLICIES in an attempt to get back into power. "

" Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity DEFENDED the AIG taxpayer-paid million-dollar bonuses for the executives who caused the economic crash. Yes, DEFENDED THEM. "

" jrussell wrote on Mar 19, 2009 1:53 AM:

" Rohn Gordon wrote on Mar 18, 2009 9:23 PM:

" Was that leather and bondage accessories?? "

NJ then stated "...ya know I'll bet BBD's real name is CREEPY MCGEE, yes, yes I know BBD didn't say it but c'mon what else do you call spending your day in a 23 year old guys photo folder lol ""
------------- then came on the VERY next post
Rohn Gordon wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:29 AM:

" LMAO @ NJ
Come on Oldschool admit it you just busted a LOL also when you read that. "
-------------------------------
Then came NJ posting
"...yup way to keep bringing yourself down ROHN lol, you unfortunately do post under your real name so I would be worried of people thinking less of you whereas old yeller likes to keep her ignorance a secret "
---------------
My answer is "bring myself down? HOW? By LOL at a big mouthed person that made a funny statement?? So what you are saying because I LOL at something you said brings me down? I do not think reading what someone says brings me down. I do not think laughing at a funny statement someone said brings me down. Or does it bring me down to admit I read that persons post, even KNOWING it will only be like what comes out of the south bound side of a north bound bull?? Stick to BDD LMAO
Keep up the good work all. "

" TQ Why did they vote against it?? I have heard some experts say they do not think it is constitutional. I sure would want whatever party I was associated with to vote against what they thought was not even legal. So I don't know if they did the right thing or the wrong thing. A 90% tax is a tad unbelievable to say the least. "

" Julio - you lumped Dave Ramsey with those others??? Since when did "cut up your credit cards, save money, and live within your means" become "Republican spin?" Someone's drinking kool-aid here and it's not Dave Ramsey's listeners.
*
I don't understand the perennial "Fox News is a wing of the Republican Party" slant on these pages. It's far more balanced than CNN... If you've watched CNN lately, you know it's become the most 'right wing' and anti-Obama network on TV, and they don't even use the conservative talk show hosts to attack Obama... it's just in their regular news commentary.
*
Further, it's odd to me that the writer of the letter pokes fun at someone's very destructive addiction. That in itself is very offensive to anyone who knows someone who has struggled with addictions of any kind. I guess, though, since Rush offends some, it's ok to try and be just as offensive. Kind of like going to the lowest common denominator. "

" Tell me, Collatine, which "news channel's" pundit suggested that Obama should be assassinated -- and laughed about it?
Here's a hint. It wasn't CNN. And it certainly wasn't "balanced." It was extremely unbalanced, in more ways that one. "

" It's good to read Collatine again.

I always enjoy reading your posts, whether I agree with them or not.

Your intelligence and perspective are always a welcome addition to these (often crazy) threads. "

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 19, 2009 4:01 PM:

intelligence and perspective are always a welcome addition to these (often crazy) threads. """""


said the sociopath "

" FATHER BOB - "said the sociopath")

Said the lying weasel who forgot to turn his caps button off when he logged off as Harry Potter and logged back on as FATHER BOB.

ROFLMAO! "

" Well ROHN to me at all depends on what your laughing at, for instance laughing at the homeless to me is defined as shameful and ignorant, get where I'm going with this... "

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 19, 2009 8:26 PM:
" FATHER BOB - "said the sociopath")

Said the lying weasel who forgot to turn his caps button off when he logged off as Harry Potter and logged back on as FATHER BOB.

ROFLMAO! "



..said the shameful dog who tap dances to shame and ignorance and around the truth, hey at least possibly your style of blogging will be a bit more civil from here on out lol, that's one bit of hope for you yet "

" (jrussell - ".said the shameful dog who tap dances to shame and ignorance and around the truth, hey at least possibly your style of blogging will be a bit more civil from here on out lol, that's one bit of hope for you yet")

Truth junior?

Like when you said that you only had traffic violations on your record, when in fact you had alcohol and disorderly conduct convictions as well?

Or when you lied and denied that you actually started this crap-fest?

Or when you wrote your letter to the editor lecturing everyone about open-mindedness, and then quickly turned into a closed-minded partisan?

Is that the truth you're talking about kid?

Oh and, when are you finally going to get a job and stop living off the tax-payers dime as you lecture everyone else about giving to charity? "

" The Question wrote on Mar 19, 2009 2:25 PM:" Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity DEFENDED the AIG taxpayer-paid million-dollar bonuses for the executives who caused the economic crash. Yes, DEFENDED THEM. "

Are you sure they defended the bonuses or pointed out the bigger blunder, in the fact that the government knew about the bonuses and then lied about it to the American people or that the congress gave out billions with no strings attached?

I don't really care about the bonuses. It is only a small percentage of this whole bailout mania. First off, I don't know who is getting them and what they are for. I have heard that they are not performance bonuses, so maybe they are deserved like a salary. The autoworkers had a hand in GM's troubles. Maybe we should tax 90% of their pay too. Where does it stop? While we are at it, let's take 90% of everyone's pay who voted for this bailout mess. They are just as responsible. If the President and congress are so upset at AIG, why don't they all give back AIG's contributions to their campaigns as well?

I am sure if one looked at all of the other bailout money (assuming anyone could find it all) many other companies are giving bonuses too (Freddie and Fannie) and also investing the money overseas (GM). Where is the outrage about that? No, this is just another example of this administration trying to focus everyone's ire on some anonymous "conservative rich white guys", and therefore keeping the focus off of their own incompetance. "

" Shall each spill the blood of the other till neither exist? What of the children? "

" The GOP broadcast mouthpieces defended the bonuses, Ed. Remember, the Republicans, prior to their newfound "outrage," said all along that any caps on executive compensation would be (OH HORRORS!) socialism!
And please, do spare us what you are "sure" about but have no evidence for. "

" How much longer before Dorothy pulls a Tommy, and goes whining to the monitor about being picked on? Bullying is not working for her with this guy, so it's probably her next step. "

" (Harry Potter wrote on Mar 20, 2009 6:58 AM:
" How much longer before Dorothy pulls a Tommy, and goes whining to the monitor about being picked on? Bullying is not working for her with this guy, so it's probably her next step.")

Thanks for admitting (yet again) Harry that junior is the aggressor in here.

As I recall FatherBobby already tried to whine to the monitor.

Didn't he Harry Bob.

As usual Harry, you're deflecting your actions onto someone else as a smoke screen. Learn that in fifth grade did you? "

" FATHER BOB wrote on Mar 19, 2009 7:59 PM:
" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 19, 2009 4:01 PM:

intelligence and perspective are always a welcome addition to these (often crazy) threads. """""


said the sociopath """""



NAILED!!!!.....and there you have it "

" Come on Tq, Yes, it was my opinion, but do you really think the Government knows where all of the bailout money has gone to? I think the government's track record on efficiency and frugality speak volumes on that.

As far as the bonuses, I still say it's a distraction and not the biggest issue. I don't think the government should have the right to take anyone's pay who works for a private company. This is setting a dangerous precedence. If they want to make that issue a condition of the bailout and the company agrees to it, fine. The government has no constitutional authority to take wages from private citizens just to cover up their incompetence. This 90% tax thing is B.S. too, and if I were those guys, I would be going to court. "

" " How much longer before Dorothy pulls a Tommy, and goes whining to the monitor about being picked on? Bullying is not working for her with this guy, so it's probably her next step. "


Judging from Dorothy's reaction to the above, I think I may have foiled her plans. So I guess the only left for her to do is to keep stalking and harassing our young friend, jrussell. You really have to feel sorry for a supposed adult who would stoop to harassing a young person all over this site, even though that young person continues to show her up for the phony she really is. lol! "

" The Question - you can always cite weird examples to illustrate your argument that Fox News is a wing of the Republican Party, but the operative word you used is "pundits." Yes, Fox News has conservative or libertarian pundits, because those programs sell. Fox's regular news, though, is the most balanced, according to independent research. For instance, news stories on Obama will be about half positive and half negative. Full disclaimer: I don't watch either, but saw CNN on at Subway the other day, and was struck about how anti-Obama CNN's investigative reporters were. Guess they're trying to move up the ratings.

Ed Miller - I agree regarding the bonuses, ...think of it this way: you're one of a hundred executives in charge of a department, and you've been charged with making the company $50 million. If you do so, you're awarded a good bonus. If 40 of the 100 departments MAKE money, then those 40 executives get bonuses, EVEN IF the 60 other executives LOST money. If this is how the bonuses were awarded (in principle), then I'm in favor of them. I think it's a little over the top (I mean, seriously, a MILLION dollars each??), but in principle, I can understand.

If however, the 60 executives who lost money were awarded bonuses, then there is a serious problem.

However, Congress wrote into the law the bonuses should be paid... so they are akin to the Inspector in Casablanca... "I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED that there is gambling here!" "Here's your winnings, sir," "Oh thank you."

I don't know why we're surprised... AIG is built around failed business practices... so we bail them out, and then are surprised when they continue their failed business practices??? "

" I don't think the government should have the right to take anyone's pay who works for a private company. This is setting a dangerous precedence.
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Your mean "precedent." The corporations aren't "private," Ed! They are being bailed out to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars by the taxpayers because their fraudulent greed wrecked them! The federal government needs to assert the public's interest over these swine, and stop throwing billions at them while getting NOTHING in return except a rude gesture. "

" Yes, Collatine, I agree it's "weird" for an employee of a supposed "news channel" -- the rotten right-wing crone Liz Trotta -- to endorse the assassination of a presidential candidate on the air and laugh about it. But that's what happened.
Such hideous fascist propaganda is TYPICAL for Fox News. Here are the 14 common characteristics of fascist states:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. (Flags image fly with vomit-inducing dizziness on Fox News).
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. (Fox News has consistently defended the Bush-Cheney use of torture).
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people of a fascist nation are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities, liberals, communists, socialists, terrorists, etc. (Missing white women and black, Hispanic and Muslim villains are a Fox News staple).
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. (Fox News worships of the military-industrial complex daily).
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. (What news channel interviews Hooters girls about economics?)
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media pundits and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common. (Fox News repeated Bush-GOP talking points verbatim and ad nauseum).
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. (Fear is Fox News' most important product).
8. Religion and Government are intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. (Fox News is the very soul of vulgar piety).
9. Corporate Power is protected Members of the industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. (Obvious).
10. Labor Power is suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. (Obvious).
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. (Fox News targets one professor or entertainer after another for destruction, and constantly attacks the idea of intellectual independence in Hollywood or the university.)
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations (The flip side of Fox News fear-mongering).
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. (Fox News was strangely unconcerned about Enron, the $12 billion in cash that went missing among Bush's cronies in Iraq, etc. etc. etc.)
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. (Remember that Fox News called Florida for Bush, deliberately and wrongly creating the impression he had won. Fox News' election night newsroom was run by Bush's cousin See Characteristic 13). "

" The Question wrote on Mar 20, 2009 3:40 PM:
" Your mean "precedent." The corporations aren't "private," Ed! They are being bailed out to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars by the taxpayers because their fraudulent greed wrecked them! The federal government needs to assert the public's interest over these swine, and stop throwing billions at them while getting NOTHING in return except a rude gesture. "

Ok, fine. The government knew about the bonuses ahead of time. Geithner wrote it. The incompetence of the feds is not AIG employees' fault. They lied to us and are trying to distract the public to be mad at the AIG employees. Ask Sen. Dodd how much AIG gave him in contributions. "

" (Collatine - "However, Congress wrote into the law the bonuses should be paid... so they are akin to the Inspector in Casablanca... "I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED that there is gambling here!" "Here's your winnings, sir," "Oh thank you.")


Great post, Collatine.

Astute as always. "

" Fox News has repeatedly suggested the idea of armed rebellion against the U.S. government.
On Feb. 20 the one-month anniversary of Obamas inauguration Glenn Beck hosted a special program called War Room that war-gamed various scenarios including the overthrow of an oppressive U.S. government when "bubba" militias rise up and gain the support of the American military.
The segment featured former CIA officer Michael Scheuer, retired U.S. Army Sgt. Major Tim Strong, and Gerald Celente, a prognosticator who began pitching the idea of an armed rebellion on Fox News shortly after Obamas election last November.
"This is going to be violent," said Celente, founder of Trends Research Institute. "People cant afford it [taxes] anymore. The cities are going to look like Dodge City. Theyre going to be uncontrollable. Youre going to have gangs in control. Motorcycle marauders. Youre not going to have enough police or federales just like Mexico to control the situation."
Beck envisioned the uprising theoretically set in 2014 starting "because people have been so disenfranchised" leading to a "bubba effect" touched off by federal agents from the ATF or FBI arresting some rancher in Texas or Arizona who has taken the law into his own hands in defending his property. "

" The incompetence of the feds is not AIG employees' fault. They lied to us and are trying to distract the public to be mad at the AIG employees. Ask Sen. Dodd how much AIG gave him in contributions.
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What stupid nonsense. The incompetence and corruption of the AIG credit default swaps IS NOT THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS' FAULT. The AIG employees SHOULD BE IN PRISON. "

" The Question wrote on Mar 20, 2009 9:25 PM:
" What stupid nonsense. The incompetence and corruption of the AIG credit default swaps IS NOT THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS' FAULT."

So why are we bailing them out then? Who is responsible for wisely spending your tax money? "

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 20, 2009 11:08 AM:

" " How much longer before Dorothy pulls a Tommy, and goes whining to the monitor about being picked on? Bullying is not working for her with this guy, so it's probably her next step. "


Judging from Dorothy's reaction to the above, I think I may have foiled her plans. So I guess the only left for her to do is to keep stalking and harassing our young friend, jrussell. You really have to feel sorry for a supposed adult who would stoop to harassing a young person all over this site, even though that young person continues to show her up for the phony she really is. lol! "



...all she should do is at least explain her reasoning for not revealing herself, and then after that give a better explanation of what the risks are in us knowing her college and major background, I guess I just don't see the risk in that info "

" TQ:I don't watch it myself, but I monitor it, on the same principle.

I AM curious as to what people are talking about -- I thought I had reached a place in the country where I couldn't even by accident hear this axx. Is Limbaugh available here in Mattoon/Charleston??? "

" ed miller:"" Come on Tq, Yes, it was my opinion, but do you really think the Government knows where all of the bailout money has gone to? I think the government's track record on efficiency and frugality speak volumes on that."

ed while you're asking about the BAILout money, why not ask about those BALES of $100 bills that showered like rain on Iraq without any accountability. "

" ed while you're asking about the BAILout money, why not ask about those BALES of $100 bills that showered like rain on Iraq without any accountability. "


That point has been made several times, but none of the Bush apologists seems to want to discuss it.

eddie claims he was over there....you don't suppose....Nah, the military peons like him probably weren't allowed anywhere near it. The brass must have been busy that day shoveling up the cash to send to their numbered bank accounts. Guys like eddie had the job of standing guard and looking the other way. lol! "

" Well Harry, somehow now you admit I was in the military.

As far as waste in Iraq, I'm sure there was a lot of it. Show me a war where there wasn't any. Our government is a bloated inefficient bureaucracy and your messiah wants to make it bigger.

Anyway, please explain how waste in Iraq justifies the mess that we are in now. The current bunch of clowns wants to rack up unprecedented amounts of debt. Does the war somehow justify this? Obama and his cronies are trying to vilify the AIG execs for their bonuses, when they are the ones that gave it the green light in the first place. Now they want to enact illegal taxes to try to save face. They lied to us and got caught. Who will the next scapegoat be? "

" As far as waste in Iraq, I'm sure there was a lot of it. Show me a war where there wasn't any. Our government is a bloated inefficient bureaucracy and your messiah wants to make it bigger.


To clarify something ed, there has only been one Messiah. Obviously that you don't see it that way, but that's your problem, not mine.

And yes of course there is always going to be waste during war times, but I don't recall ever reading about dozens of pallets stacked high with 100 dollar bills disappearing. Do you?

Also I don't recall ever reading about the level of graft and corruption, such as the billions in no bid contracts with a company with direct ties to an administration (Halliburton).

It sounds like you're satisfied with the status quo, I'm not. I want answers and I hope that congress has the guts to dig into the actions most corrupt administration ever: Bush/Cheney.

I agree with father bob, if the Bush/Cheney duo broke the law, they should pay the price. "

" i wish one of our resident financial guru would explain to us just HOW and where our government is growing exponentially....the moron keeps carping but i'm yet to see anything happening.

oh ....and would that same someone tell me how socialism has ruined my life.

i'm sure the brits, canadians, costa ricans, and a boatload of others would like to know too.... "

" When the Government is buying large portions of private companys, wouldn't that be considered enlarging the Government?? "

" Fine let them investigate Bush, Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Don Imus, the Tooth Fairy or who ever else they can scapegoat to distract us from the business at hand.

You want to whine about some no-bid contracts, fine. Whoopee! I'll bet in previous wars before 24/7 cable news and DOD-ran war correspondence, there was probably ten times the graft of the current wars. But that's irrelevant. You bring up issues like this because you can't discuss the 800 pound gorilla of debt in the room.

For some reason, you don't want to discuss how our CURRENT government is going to rack up Trillion dollar deficits for the next ten years. Yes, that's right, TRILLION. Let's all say it together, T-R-I-L-L-I-O-N. That is unsustainable. Next to top that, Congress has a big show trial to grill a bunch of execs for getting bonuses, when it turns out congress knew all along and they just lied to us about it. Wonder what else they are lying about? "

" " When the Government is buying large portions of private companys, wouldn't that be considered enlarging the Government?? "
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Not when you get nothing but bad debts created by fraud peddlers for your money. "

" If you can't see how government is getting bigger, then you must have your head in the sand. Obama is asking for federal spending as 28 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), higher by at least 6 percent than any time since World War II. Moreover, after 10 years, Mr. Obamas proposed spending as a percentage of GDP would still be 22.6 percent, nearly 2 percentage points higher than any year during the Bush administration, despite the full costs of the terrorist attacks of Sept, 11, 2001, the Iraq and Afghan wars and the rebuilding of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. This info was even taking into account his overly rosy 4% growth that the CBO has already debunked.



If you think that's a good thing read this

http://www.heritage.org/research/budget/bg1831.cfm


Sorry, I realize it's much easier to just call everyone, "morons". "

" Rohn Gordon wrote on Mar 23, 2009 5:58 PM:
" When the Government is buying large portions of private companies, wouldn't that be considered enlarging the Government?? "

Not in the physical sense. When people say the government is too big, they are saying that government spending is too large a portion of our whole GDP. The feds cannot spend money without first taking that money from us. That reduces the amount of money to stimulate the economy. In addition, the resultant high taxes discourage productivity, particularly in the current system, which imposes high tax rates on your salary, savings, investments, and other forms of productive behavior. The government cannot spend your money as efficiently as you can. Look at how they have rebuilt after Katrina. As bad as it sounds, those AIG suits would have probably helped the economy more if they would have just kept their bonuses. "

" It's been a while....What's the question again? "

" ed miller wrote on Mar 23, 2009 6:08 PM:

" Fine let them investigate Bush, Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Don Imus, the Tooth Fairy or who ever else they can scapegoat to distract us from the business at hand.



Wow! Talk about distraction. Just investigating Bush and Cheney will do. But I do understand your not wanting your political idols investigated, especially the war monger/profiteer Cheney.

Judging from your comments on prior wars, I take it you're an historian as well as an economist.

Or are you just shooting for the hip as usual?

You seem to have all the answers, perhaps you're needed in Washington. lol! "

" ed miller:"For some reason, you don't want to discuss how our CURRENT government is going to rack up Trillion dollar deficits"

Ed, Ed you're not drinking your Republican Kool-Aid!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you remember Dick Cheney's pronouncement that "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter". "

" eddie....you carping about a trillion dollars, but if i recall, you've always defended bush's 11 tillion dollar swing "

" ed miller wrote on Mar 23, 2009 6:08 PM:

" Fine let them investigate Bush, Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Don Imus, the Tooth Fairy or who ever else they can scapegoat to distract us from the business at hand.

You want to whine about some no-bid contracts, fine. Whoopee! I'll bet in previous wars before 24/7 cable news and DOD-ran war correspondence, there was probably ten times the graft of the current wars. But that's irrelevant. You bring up issues like this because you can't discuss the 800 pound gorilla of debt in the room


...the entire Bush administration needs investigated on many levels, I don't think Obama wants to make us look negative though, I'm kind of sick of him trying to please everyone now, he did that before but he still stuck to his guns or w/e, now he is hopping around all over the place, still think he was better choice than McCain "

" father bob wrote on Mar 24, 2009 2:38 PM:

" eddie....you carping about a trillion dollars, but if i recall, you've always defended bush's 11 tillion dollar swing "


...and so it goes lol "

" Love to read the remarks by Harry Potter. You certainly can tell it like it is. Good job. "