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Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:16 PM CST
LETTER: 'Honor among thieves' is a lesson learned

BARBARA PEPPO, Westfield

Finally, I have discovered there is honor among thieves. I didn’t believe it before, but now I do.

The price of oil is continuing to go down, the prices for farmers are going down, the housing market is way down, but the price of groceries, gasoline and medicines are all rising at a fast rate.

Guess who the thieves are?

BARBARA PEPPO

Westfield

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Tom Andres wrote on Feb 27, 2009 12:18 AM:

" Barbara, if you think the prices of groceries and gasoline and medicines are bad, wait till you get the bill from the State of Illinois for your share of the $9-billion deficit - or worse, wait till you get the bill for Obama's multi-trillion deficit!

But, could we cut costs in Springfield or DC? Oh no! Just raise more revenue. Spend our way into prosperity!

I can't wait till we hear from the O-man that because all of us comrades are in a crisis mode, we must remove term limits - immediately. "

Harry Potter wrote on Feb 27, 2009 9:20 AM:

" Poor Tom.

Just hunker down in front of your TV and stay tuned to Fox news, Tom.

It won't help the economy, but it will make you feel better to now you're not alone in your hatred of your president. "

father bob wrote on Feb 27, 2009 10:09 AM:

" Tom Andres wrote on Feb 27, 2009 12:18 AM:
" Barbara, if you think the prices of groceries and gasoline and medicines are bad, wait till you get the bill from the State of Illinois for your share of the $9-billion deficit - or worse, wait till you get the bill for Obama's multi-trillion deficit! """"

yep, pretty crappy thing bush stuck him with.... "

injustice85 wrote on Feb 27, 2009 1:37 PM:

" where's the honor? "

Tom Andres wrote on Feb 27, 2009 2:59 PM:

" Now Comrade Harry says I hate the president. Yet another unfounded conclusion. I'll bet you had lots of trouble in your Logic 101 courses, didn't you, Harry?

I never heard one policy statement from Obama in the two year campaign, or since his term began, that I agree with, but that doesn't mean I hate the man. In fact, I sympathize with him. He's in the most powerful position in the world, and so far, he's proving himself to be totally inept.

In a way, I love the guy for trying. How are you going to break the news to him that he's destined to become the most unpopular one-term president in history, even worse than Carter? "

Harry Potter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 6:39 AM:

" In a way, I love the guy for trying. How are you going to break the news to him that he's destined to become the most unpopular one-term president in history, even worse than Carter? "

Sorry to inform you of this Tom, but if you watched anything other than Fox news you would know that several polls taken with historians have said that your political hero Bush ranks near the bottom. So even if Obama ranked lower than Carter he would still be ahead of Bush by several presidents.

And please don't try pulling a Sean Hannity act in trying to deny your worship of Bush. After carrying water for him on this site for months, that won't sell.

Once again, your boast of watching only Fox news has done you in, my friend. You need to broaden your horizons beyond Fox news and that list of radical right wingers you cited a whole back. An informed person looks at issues from both sides. When you rely on getting all of your information from only one point of view, either liberal or conservative that information becomes nothing more than propaganda. "

Rohn Gordon wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:22 AM:

" LOL I always heard the saying "there is NOTHING worse than having something stolen that you stole in the 1st place."
Harry loss fb its un becoming of you. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:12 AM:

" Hey Harry,

did you happen to catch this?

Of Friday, Obama summed up America's achievement in Iraq thus:

"We sent our troops to Iraq to do away with Saddam Hussein's regime -- and you got the job done. We kept our troops in Iraq to help establish a sovereign government -- and you got the job done. And we will leave the Iraqi people with a hard-earned opportunity to live a better life -- that is your achievement; that is the prospect that you have made possible." Amen. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:20 AM:

" Hey Harry,

Tell us about The Huffington Post (your favorite MoonBat site) getting busted for pushing a phony "doctored" FoxNews clip of John Gibson. "

longtimegone wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:44 AM:

" just like La Cage Au Foilles in springfield? "

1cav wrote on Feb 28, 2009 3:29 PM:

" Barbara why would you think grociers should go down is beyond me. Has the cost went down to produce them,shipping and handling cost declined ? Wait till the stimulus bill kicks in and everyone who makes more than $250,000 gross get a big tax increase. I don't want to guess the price of groceries. It appears your S.S. check is going to take a cut soon too.
Happy days are here with the big O. "

Tom Andres wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:23 PM:

" Harry, at my age, I've already broadened my horizons. What I'm doing at this point in my life is deciding to not waste my time "broadening". Instead, I'm honing in on truth - which is found only on the right side of the argument. Liberalism is no longer an option for me. I don't have the time to mess with it. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 1, 2009 8:13 AM:

" Yeah Tom, but it's sad when people age and let their minds go stagnant. I have always read that the way to keep your mind sharp as you age is to continue to learn new things. But as the old saying goes, to each his own. "

The Question wrote on Mar 1, 2009 8:19 AM:

" Tom, you spent the last eight years relentlessly and ludicrously defending the worst president in history, the Republican who ruined this nation and wrecked the world economy.
Your horizons are not nearly broad enough. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Mar 1, 2009 10:48 AM:

" The NEW AMERICAN TEA PARTY....

Since this national phenomenon does not register with the liberal print and broadcast media, and especially not with certain HICKtown USA newspapers, conservatives must once again enlighten the masses on their own.

You socialists in the media, ah...I mean democrats, must find it h*ll trying to control dissenting opinion in the USA compared to how the socialists did it in Nazi Germany, the communists did it in Russia and still do in China, the BBC does in Great Britain, the CBC does in Canada, the communist Fidel Castro does in Cuba, and the socialist Hugo Chavez does in Venezuela, don't you?

PLEASE VIEW http://tinyurl.com/agyzsj and http://newamericanteaparty.com/ TO BE ENLIGHTENED AS TO THE TEA PARTY GOING ON ACROSS THE NATION...

Fairness Doctrine, what Fairness Doctrine, right?

I give this post a 50/50 chance of getting "moderated"... "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 1, 2009 10:55 AM:

" Question, you just spent the last 5 years belly-aching like The Drama Queen that you are, about those evil American troops who illegally invaded Iraq, and you have been incessantly whining that they should leave that innocent country immediately.

Now all of a sudden your Messiah plans on leaving 50,000 troops there until 2011? Beyond? And strangely enough; we haven't heard a peep out of you on this double-standard hypocrisy.

It looks like your horizons are a tad "flexible", doesn't it Drama Queen.

Uh-huh.......... "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 1, 2009 11:41 AM:

" (Harry - "Yeah Tom, but it's sad when people age and let their minds go stagnant. I have always read that the way to keep your mind sharp as you age is to continue to learn new things. But as the old saying goes, to each his own.")

I'm so sorry you didn't heed this advice earlier in life, Harry.

This certainly explains your inability to counter factual information with any semblance of intelligence or even basic comprehension skills.

I had no idea you were an old senile man, Harry. I'm so sorry I relentlessly beat you down so badly.

You have my deepest apologies, Gramps.... "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Mar 1, 2009 12:24 PM:

" In a "THANKS OBAMA FOR RUINING OUR ECONOMY EVEN MORE WITH AN ADDITIONAL $3 TRILLION OF DEBT" moment....

Buffett Says Economy Will Be In Shambles for 2009

By Rick Levinson

Feb. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire Warren Buffett said the economy will be in shambles for the rest of this year as financial firms take losses tied to reckless loans made during the housing boom.

The Standard & Poors 500 Index will probably gain in three-quarters of the next 44 years, just as it did in the period since Buffett took over Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in 1965, he said today in his annual letter to the companys shareholders.

While Buffett and business partner Charlie Munger cant predict how stocks will perform in 2009, theyre certain that the economy will be in shambles throughout 2009 -- and, for that matter, probably well beyond, he wrote. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Mar 1, 2009 12:30 PM:

" In yet another, "THANKS OBAMA FOR RUINING OUR ECONOMY EVEN MORE" moment....

AIG May Get an Additional $30 Billion in Capital From U.S.

By Hugh Son and Rebecca Christie

March 1 (Bloomberg) -- American International Group Inc. may get a commitment of as much as $30 billion in additional capital from the U.S. to stave off collapse after a fifth straight quarterly loss, two people familiar with the matter said.

The New York-based insurer may also get relaxed terms on its loans from the U.S. government, said the people, who declined to be identified because there was no public announcement. Isaac Baker, a spokesman for the Treasury, declined to comment.

AIG got an expanded $150 billion rescue from the U.S. in November.

AIG has lost $4 billion in net worth in a matter of months due to poor management, yet our SCUMBAG-N-CHIEF OBAMA wants to keep giving it the taxpayers money to waste.

"CHANGE" (socialism, bankruptcy, and loss of personal freedoms) you can believe in. "

The Question wrote on Mar 1, 2009 12:55 PM:

" You know, you right wingers disappoint me. For years, you lectured us about how, despite all the evidence to the contrary, your Chimpanzee in Chief was as smart as Lincoln and as brave as Batman, and meant what he said and said what he meant. You assured us that, just as Bush claimed, the voice of God spoke through him, and gave him those infallible gut instincts and whims that he used to govern so wisely.
And yet, for a long time now, you have been terribly quiet on those points. I haven't heard you right wingers review your simian savior's great qualities in a long, long time. I'm afraid they are starting to fade in my mind. List them again for me, please. I'd love to hear them. "

HP-TQ-fb wrote on Mar 1, 2009 3:33 PM:

" Pretty clever pseudonym, huh? I thought I'd use it whenever the need exists to summarize the stagnant rants from the left side, and maybe save a little space. It'll be the One-Source for corrupt leftist idealists on here to come get their marching orders.

Here's an example of how this works:

Obama good, Bush bad

liberal good, conservative bad

ethically debilitated good, ethically sound bad

anything goes good, family values bad.

Get the idea? There, that about does it. I know Ill have to remind the audience on the left side of the room how this works, but for now, you do grasp the concept, right? "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 1, 2009 4:19 PM:

" HP-TQ-fb wrote on Mar 1, 2009 3:33 PM:

Yet another name for our friend Cybil, formerly know as Doh, to post under. He must keep a score card tacked up next to his computer to keep track of all the names and passwords. LOL! "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 1, 2009 4:36 PM:

" ....they are starting to fade in my mind. List them again for me, please. I'd love to hear them.

Don't hold your breath, TQ. They're too busy telling us how Obama is failing. Cybil is even posting articles about tea parties in St Louis. As I stated earlier, the Republican party is lost and so are it's defenders on this site. I don't know about you, but I'm getting a kick out of Cybil's meltdown.

Did you catch their new leaders ranting tirade? Limbaugh offered them so many ideas. LOL! It was hilarious.

When the highlight of your party's conference is a rambling, discoherant, and hate filled Hitler like tirade and a speech from a 13 year old kid, they are in deep trouble. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 1, 2009 4:43 PM:

" I see Cybil is even responding for our friend Tom. I guess he thinks Tom needs help. Tom may be a crabby old curmudgeon, but I would think he could speak for himself. Cybil should be busy enough just keeping up with all of his other pseudonyms. LOL!

And hey, what ever happened to Stanley Stetson and oldschool? Are they on sick leave? "

Stanley Stetson wrote on Mar 1, 2009 5:45 PM:

" * right-wingers are still on the wrong track *

* conservatives everywhere are goose-stepping for the cameras; right arms and eyes held high in sudden commitment to mighty principles. and don't you know, they want bipartisanship, now, in the minority. *

* watch them throw themselves under the bus in a solemn frenzy; pious faces, lower lips prominent, steadfastly refusing to pass debt to future generations. and their inspired idea for our national crisis? cut taxes. really? eight years ago, republicans inherited a strong economy, cut taxes and doubled the national debt. listen to a conservative and you'd think americans haven't been paying attention and will nod to any mantra that is sort of grammatically correct. *

* right-wingers continue to chant trite conservative economic philosophy in spite of a damning track record. a republican congresswoman starts a sentence with the false statement, "every economist will tell you ..." john mccain calls for years of mind-boggling spending in iraq along with tax cuts, and now, suddenly finds the concept of generational theft. *

* come on! this stuff only works for kool-aid drinkers. bear in mind that the majority formally rejected the republican track record and its wildly unproven economic philosophy as recently as november. so this is the resurgence of the gop? it's certainly great entertainment! * "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 1, 2009 7:09 PM:

" Oh no, has Cybil chosen her Stanley Stetson handle for her crackup?

A moment of silence, please... "

HarryDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 1, 2009 8:19 PM:

" did any one hear that obama got caught kissing bushs rear end "

Stanley Stetson wrote on Mar 1, 2009 8:42 PM:

" * i have seen the light *

* 1. education is a life long process. they learn about science for when theylearn how the world works they learn what they need to do to make the artificial man-made world a better place for all. they learn about history for they can’t know where they are going until they understand where they have been. they learn about psychology for by understanding how other people work they learn how they work. they learn about philosophy and religion for their teachings are full of great wisdom. a gnostic guild might select books to read and discuss as a group. *

* 2. all humans are created equal without regard to race, creed, ethnicity, age, gender, sexual orientation, financial condition, social status, education, health, ability or disability, religion or lack thereof. *

* 3. all humans are entitled to equal rights, protections and privileges under the law. *

* 4. all humans are responsible for doing what they can to make this world a better place for all living things. a gnostic guild might sponsor parenting classes, help with food pantries and homeless shelters. in the end it is what we do, not what we profess, or believe that counts. our actions speak louder than our words. *

* i recommend that each guild create and tend a garden. it can be a garden in pots on a patio or rooftop, or a vacant lot or space behind their guild hall. it might be a garden of vegetables to feed the hungry or an ornamental garden to feed their souls. the garden shall be open to the public, for everyone to enjoy. the idea behind the garden is to remind all people that “one is nearer god’s heart and mind in a garden than anywhere else on earth.” *

* by creating and tending the garden the members will develop and nurture their understanding of the natural world as it evolved after creation, before man intervened and tinkered and nearly destroyed it. they will be reminded that they are a part of and are dependent upon that natural world. thoreau said, “in wildness lies the preservation of the world.” by tending a garden they will come to understand the full meaning of what he said and in the process they will nurture their souls and their bodies and understand what they need to do to help make this world a better place for all. * "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 2, 2009 6:59 AM:

" Obviously Blowdog lacks an understanding of civility and good manners. Fortunately for us, we now have a President who does. Apparently Blowie's life style revolves around confrontation and acrimony, so it's perfectly understandable those concepts. "

exbricklayer wrote on Mar 2, 2009 12:11 PM:

" Scum Dog,

You wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on the arse. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 2, 2009 3:50 PM:

" " Scum Dog,

You wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on the arse. "

Ouch! another wedgie for the Blowdog.... "

even steven wrote on Mar 2, 2009 4:13 PM:

" One has to look no further than the White House to see the biggest theif of them all. "President" Obama has robbed from future generations with his power-grabbing porkulus swindle, and the markets are reacting accordingly. He's already the worst president in my lifetime... even worse than Jimmy Carter. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 2, 2009 4:33 PM:

" David Frum (noted Republican) on Limbaugh:

And for the leader of the Republicans? A man who is aggressive and bombastic, cutting and sarcastic, who dismisses the concerned citizens in network news focus groups as losers. With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk, not to mention his tangled marital history, Rush is a walking stereotype of self-indulgence exactly the image that Barack Obama most wants to affix to our philosophy and our party. And were cooperating! Those images of crowds of CPACers cheering Rushs every rancorous word well be seeing them rebroadcast for a long time.

Rush knows what he is doing. The worse conservatives do, the more important Rush becomes as leader of the ardent remnant. The better conservatives succeed, the more we become a broad national governing coalition, the more Rush will be sidelined.

But do the rest of us understand what we are doing to ourselves by accepting this leadership? Rush is to the Republicanism of the 2000s what Jesse Jackson was to the Democratic party in the 1980s. He plays an important role in our coalition, and of course he and his supporters have to be treated with respect. But he cannot be allowed to be the public face of the enterprise and we have to find ways of assuring the public that he is just one Republican voice among many, and very far from the most important.

****

I have to wonder if Mr Frum really doesn't understand Limbaugh enormous ego. Limbaugh sees this as his day to seize, and seize he will.

Looks like the battle lines are being drawn. I'm putting my money on the anti-Rush side side of the Republican party. Not only is that party in total disarray, it looks like they might be splintering into two factions. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 2, 2009 4:35 PM:

" What's a theif? LOL! "

ed miller wrote on Mar 2, 2009 7:47 PM:

" The Question wrote on Mar 1, 2009 12:55 PM:" And yet, for a long time now, you have been terribly quiet on those points. I haven't heard you right wingers review your simian savior's great qualities in a long, long time."

That's because he is no longer in office. Maybe people should be more concerned about the present. Maybe people should be more concerned with what their government is doing now, instead of worried about a bunch of talking heads on TV. What is even sadder, I haven't heard any of you defending the economic policies of the CURRENT administration. You only seem concerned with what's on FOX network, Rush Limbaugh, and who is posting under what name.

In case you haven't noticed, we are in a bad recession. Now, you can spend all day long trying to worry about whose fault it is, but we are here, so it really doesn't matter. Throughout our history, we have had recessions and we will have them again. Anyway, now is NOT the time to be expanding social programs in health care, the environment, and other things. Not that none of that is important, but the provisions do not need to be tacked on to a stimulus bill, or forced on us when we are already trillions over our head. This spending is unprecedented. American's can only get so far in debt before our credit is shut off, why can't we expect the same from our government? "

The Question wrote on Mar 2, 2009 8:23 PM:

" Now, you can spend all day long trying to worry about whose fault it is...
---
No need for that, Ed. We know who and what caused the Bush Depression. It was caused by that unregulated, fraudulent crony capitalism that has been demanded for decades by the political party that is now headed by a pig. "

ed miller wrote on Mar 2, 2009 8:55 PM:

" Ok TQ, say it's Bush's depression if that makes you feel better. He was a big spender as well, although not on as grand o a scale. Now, exactly how is your savior doing anything to make it better?

Tell us how great the 1.2 trillion dollar deficit is going to be, or tell us how next years projected 700 billion more will be, and please explain why this is the best time to push through hundreds of billions in new social programs as well.

from the web.

"....I was on the floor of the CME at the Chicago Board of Trade, interviewing in the aftermath of the Santelli brouhaha. It was apparent there was no exaggeration: virtually every trader on the floor thought Obamas bailouts were a recipe for economic disaster. And they are people who stake their livelihoods on it. We can be sure if they felt the other way, theyd be betting on it, no matter what their ideologies or political affiliations." "

The Question wrote on Mar 3, 2009 6:10 AM:

" Edward, you Republicans drove the car right off the cliff at top speed with your policies, then gave Obama the wheel in mid-air and screamed, "Look what you've done!"
Yes, the national debt is horrible and growing. But, thanks to Republican policies, the alternative to government spending is imminent starvation and riots in the streets. Our options are limited, as they say. "

citizenofmattoon wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:12 AM:

" AMEN..............Father Bob; o your comment to Tom Andres. I couldn't have said it better or quite as nice... "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:16 AM:

" WASHINGTON (AP) - New documents show the CIA destroyed nearly 100 tapes of terror interrogations, far more than has previously been acknowledged.
The revelation Monday comes as a criminal prosecutor is wrapping up his investigation in the matter.

The acknowledgment of dozens of destroyed tapes came in a letter filed by government lawyers in New York, where the American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit seeking more details of the Bush administration's terror interrogation programs following the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

"The CIA can now identify the number of videotapes that were destroyed," said the letter by Acting U.S. Attorney Lev Dassin. "Ninety two videotapes were destroyed."

ACLU attorney Amrit Singh said the CIA should be held in contempt of court for holding back the information for so long.

This smells. It also appears to have Bush's bag man Dick Cheney's greasy fingerprints all over it. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:52 AM:

" Hey TQ, do you remember how the wing nuts denied even listening to Limpbaughs for months on this very site.

I expect to hear old Tommy coming on here to throw his kudos to Limpbaughs too. Maybe he'll come out of the closet and admit he's been listing all this time.

Now people like Neo are crawling out of the woodwork to praise old Pigboy.

Lastly, I heard a rumor that the elephant is going to be replaced with a pig.

LOL! "

father bob wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:11 AM:

" Steele Apologizes To Limbaugh Also yesterday, much was made of a back-and-forth involving Limbaugh and RNC chairman Michael Steele after Steele called Limbaugh's show "ugly" and "incendiary," but it was reported last night that Steele had reached out to Limbaugh to let him know he had not intended to criticize the radio host. The AP reports Steele released a statement last night reading, in part, "I respect Rush Limbaugh, he is a national conservative leader, and in no way do I want to diminish his voice." The AP notes that Democrats "reacted gleefully to Steele's apology, saying it illustrated Limbaugh's influence over the party."""""

woooohoooo!!!!....it can't get better than this!!!....the party just handed control over the rush limbaugh!! "

Cognitus wrote on Mar 3, 2009 11:54 AM:

" TAndres:" wait till you get the bill for Obama's multi-trillion deficit! "

Tommy, I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself. Unless I'm mistaken we haven't even paid of the BUSH DEFICIT yet -- have we, when I wasn't watching??? "

Cognitus wrote on Mar 3, 2009 11:59 AM:

" TAndres:"He's in the most powerful position in the world, and so far, he's proving himself to be totally inept."

Well, Tommy Boy, at least he's making an effort to erase the mistakes of the previous administrations. You'll note that as everything went to H*** in the last 2 months of his administration, GWB huddled in the corner in a catatonic state, while Bernanke and Paulson ran the store for him. There he was, sucking his thumb, one thumb in his mouth, the other in his ****, trying to decide when to change thumbs. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 3, 2009 4:13 PM:

" The situation in Iraq has improved.

-Violence has been reduced substantially from the horrific sectarian killing of 2006 and 2007.

-Al Qaeda in Iraq has been dealt a serious blow by our troops and Iraqs Security Forces, and through our partnership with Sunni Arabs.

-The capacity of Iraqs Security Forces has improved,

-Iraqs leaders have taken steps toward political accommodation.

-The relative peace and strong participation in Januarys provincial elections sent a powerful message to the world about how far Iraqis have come in pursuing their aspirations through a peaceful political process

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 3, 2009 5:56 PM:

" So I suppose that since everything wrong with the economy is now Obama's fault, any good news out of Iraq should be credited to him too. Sounds like a good idea to me. LOL! "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 3, 2009 6:20 PM:

" WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama on Tuesday overturned a last-minute Bush administration regulation that many environmentalists claim weakened the Endangered Species Act.

President Obama, with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, marked the agency's 160th birthday Tuesday.

The regulation, issued a few weeks before George W. Bush left office, made it easier for federal agencies to skip consultations with government scientists before launching projects that could affect endangered wildlife.

By overturning the regulation, Obama said during an enthusiastic reception at the Interior Department, he had restored "the scientific process to its rightful place at the heart of the Endangered Species Act, a process undermined by past administrations."

Will this put an end to Sarah Palin's disgusting hunting habit of shooting innocent animals from a helicopter?

Republicans are real sportsmen aren't they? Palin mows them down from a helicopter and Cheney shoots them as they're released from a box off the back of a pickup truck. And even then Cheney managed to shoot his hunting partner in the face. "

ed miller wrote on Mar 3, 2009 6:53 PM:

" The Question wrote on Mar 3, 2009 6:10 AM:
" Edward, you Republicans drove the car right off the cliff at top speed with your policies...But, thanks to Republican policies, the alternative to government spending is imminent starvation and riots in the streets."

First off, I'm a Libertarian.

Secondly, I'm sure the GOP has a hand in all of this too, along with many greedy bankers. Using scare tactics to railroad through pork projects, expensive social programs and drive up our debt to new astronomical numbers is not going to help anything. The Dems are using their new found power and popularity to get anything they want. They are even running commercials saying that any politician that opposed the stimulus bill is against jobs. So much for partisanship. "

cd wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:52 PM:

" Harry Potter wrote on Feb 27, 2009 9:20 AM:

It won't help the economy, but it will make you feel better to now you're not alone in your hatred of your president. "

Like you, Locke, Q, FB, Becky, and many others didn't hate your President, Bush?

You're a hypocrit! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:59 PM:

" Oh so you agree that Iraq is a success, eh Harry? "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:20 AM:

" Congratulations to President Obama for winding the war down. Great job, Commander in Chief Obama. Too bad you didn't get elected 4 years ago. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 AM:

" Uhm....Harry?

Obama's leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq well into 2011 and probably beyond; he's simply renaming them "non-combat" even though their mission is the very same as it was when Bush was Commander in Chief.

The Surge worked and Iraq is settling into a new democracy- thanks to the U.S.

Obama had nothing to do with with any of that. In fact, he predicted the exact opposite results, and he even opposed every aspect of the war that he now praises as a success.

So do you agree that Iraq was a success, Harry? "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 4, 2009 2:49 PM:

" Cybil wants to blame Obama for Bush's recession but doesn't want to give him credit for the war winding down.

That's sort of like having your cake and eating it too. LOL! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 4, 2009 3:46 PM:

" How does Obama deserve any credit for the Iraq War, Harry?

He opposed every facet of it, and even said the surge would never work, and predicted the sectarian violence would never reach a peaceful conclusion.

So you see, Harry, not only does Obama share absolutely NO CREDIT for the success in Iraq; he's actually done a COMPLETE FLIP-FLOP on his rhetoric about Iraq from three short months ago.

You really are slow aren't you Harry. LOL! "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 4, 2009 5:04 PM:

" Harry Potter wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:20 AM:

" Congratulations to President Obama for winding the war down. Great job, Commander in Chief Obama. Too bad you didn't get elected 4 years ago. "

This one was so good I thought it deserved a rerun. LOL! "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Mar 4, 2009 6:49 PM:

" Hey Harry....

At the risk of getting some non-sensical reply from you, I hate to break it to you but, the withdraw timeline was due to negotiations made by Bush with the Iraqis and not any negotiations made by the LIAR-N-THIEF Obama....

Oh but I know...that fact doesn't really matter does it? "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 4, 2009 7:02 PM:

" Thank God Obama got elected and is winding down the war in Iraq. LOL! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 4, 2009 7:47 PM:

" But Harry,

Obama's winding down the war? Is that why he's leaving 50,000 troops there well into 2011.....and beyond, genius? "

ed miller wrote on Mar 4, 2009 9:16 PM:

" It's just petty that senior White House aides like Rahm Emanual are devoting their energy at Rush Limbaugh. So much for changing Washington. It seems the Dems are doing all they can to distract everyone from the business at hand.

I can't believe that everyone is ok with the fact that mere months ago, Obama promised to veto earmarks and "go through the budget line by line" and he has already thrown all that out the window. At least some of the Democratic senators are displaying a conscious and voting against it. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 PM:

" Everyone's not okay with Obama's broken earmark promise, ed.

In fact Chris (Thrill up his leg) Matthews is openly criticizing The Messiah over this.

That's a surprisingly short honeymoon from the ultimate Moonbat pundit on the ultimate Moonbat network.

Could be a foreshadow of things to come. We shall see......... "

Stanley Stetson wrote on Mar 5, 2009 12:10 AM:

" * did america just vote in john mcbama * where's the mcsame gibberish libtards * observing democrats is like watching another adventure on k2 * "

The Question wrote on Mar 5, 2009 9:25 AM:

" It's just petty that senior White House aides like Rahm Emanual are devoting their energy at Rush Limbaugh.
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Rahm isn't devoting anything to it, Edward. He just made a single clever remark that has the Republicans clawing at each others' throats and then crawling to apologize in a kind of a craven, unmanly way.
Enjoy. I certainly am. "

The Question wrote on Mar 5, 2009 9:38 AM:

" Rahm Emanuel is just playing Bugs Bunny to the GOP's Elmer Fudd, Edward. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 5, 2009 11:06 AM:

" I thought Bawny Fwank was Elmer Fudd?

"Ohhhhh dat wasscawy wabbit. uh-uh-uh!" "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 5, 2009 12:19 PM:

" The difference between our gay guy and theirs is that ours isn't the head of our party. And our guy is honest about his orientation, unlike theirs. LOL! "

The Question wrote on Mar 5, 2009 1:52 PM:

" As a friend of mine said, the sick and sad part of all this is that the GOP is more than happy to practice "socialism," as long as it is socialized risk, where poor taxpayers bail out rich bankers and CEOs. It is when the profits from the socialized risk are potentially going to be distributed to someone other than their ruthless, underhanded, overpaid corporate bosses that they scream about "socialism." "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 5, 2009 4:25 PM:

" (Question - "As a friend of mine said, the sick and sad part of all this is that ....blah blah blah....")

That's amazing, Drama Queen!

You have a friend? "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 5, 2009 4:31 PM:

" Don't for get to check out this site: Imsorryrush.com "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:25 PM:

" To send a message to Blowdogs Messiah go to: imsorryrush.com I know he won't say anything, as modest as he is and all, but I''m sure he will appreciate it. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 5, 2009 7:08 PM:

" Hey TQ, Aren't you glad you don't have to make up phony posting names to have friends like our friend Cybil does. LOL! "

The Question wrote on Mar 5, 2009 7:37 PM:

" Hey TQ, Aren't you glad you don't have to make up phony posting names to have friends like our friend Cybil does. LOL!
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Indeed. Harry, there are days when this site seems to consist MOSTLY of "conversations" between his sock puppets. One can hardly go anywhere without stepping in his droppings. "

ed miller wrote on Mar 5, 2009 8:14 PM:

" Sorry Potter, I've been spending all my time at www.pleasewatchthisphony/ feudsoyouwontnoticeus/ bankruptingthenation.com "

ed miller wrote on Mar 5, 2009 8:16 PM:

" From the web

Americans seem confused that Barack Obama is taking step after step that sends the stock market plunging ever lower and our Republic careening toward financial ruin. It confuses them, that this gifted orator would institute policies so obviously flawed. They have it in their hearts and heads that this President would want to stop the recession.

But why would he? Ever significant mentor Barack Obama has ever had, from Frank Marshall Davis to Saul Alinsky to Bill Ayers to Jeremiah Wright, has been driven by the thought of punishing America, of ripping it apart and reforging it to their liking.

Should it be any surprise at all than a man so shaped would function exactly as he was led?

The more Barack Obama can wreck the economy, the more he can turn individualsand some statesinto destitute big government dependents. As his Chief of Staff noted, they have every intention of seizing the opportunity that comes with this financial crisis.

Sadly, for all those poor souls who thought gifted teleprompter reading skills made the most radical liberal and least experienced Senator competent to be President, it is forcing them into dependency that he needs more than their goodwill. Its only going to get worse folks, and it's going to get worse by design. "

oldschool wrote on Mar 5, 2009 9:40 PM:

" Well Stated "Ed"...we are, the company we keep, and Barry's got quite a few friends that would make Castro blush.

I really think people that voted for him really thought he'd lead from the center.....hum....based on what?

Your post regarding his mentors is compelling, and of course based on FACTS. This will make Potter very mad and drive him to more silly Limbaugh insults..

It would be nice AND compelling if Potter would enlighten us on Obama's mentors mentioned....maybe we just don't understand the friendships and loyalties of this.....man? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 5, 2009 10:07 PM:

" Excellent posts Ed!

Keep up the great work!

And OldSchool, always good to hear from you, my friend. I love your observations!
Harry throws his worst at you and you just keep on calling him out. LOL "

injustice85 wrote on Mar 16, 2009 1:01 AM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 5, 2009 10:07 PM:

" Excellent posts Ed!

Keep up the great work!

And OldSchool, always good to hear from you, my friend. I love your observations!
Harry throws his worst at you and you just keep on calling him out. LOL "

lol hey Harry remember that one time that BBD lied about his education lol cause I DO! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 16, 2009 9:49 AM:

" (INJUSTICE85 - "lol hey Harry remember that one time that BBD lied about his education lol cause I DO!")

I don't remember that, because it never happened.

Prove it junior.

Cite it. "

injustice85 wrote on Mar 16, 2009 1:43 PM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 16, 2009 9:49 AM:

" (INJUSTICE85 - "lol hey Harry remember that one time that BBD lied about his education lol cause I DO!")

I don't remember that, because it never happened.

Prove it junior.

Cite it. "

lol sorry I didn't keep a log of your stupidity BBD, it was fairly simple, you called yourself an uneducated man and then claimed you had gone to college but then refused to give details like a dog with no bite, liars are sad sad people BBD "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 16, 2009 11:09 PM:

" What's confusing you, junior is my often used line:

"I'm just a simple, humble, uneducated man."

I use it sarcastically because I am not simple, and I'm admittedly not humble, and I'm anything but uneducated.

But ironically, you can't brag enough about your educatin' from Crayola-Tech in Cumoonicatin' and then you turn around and display some of the least competent communication skills in here.

Foe God sake Burn-out,

most of the time you struggle to string two coherent sentences together.

And of course your ability to follow logic and reason is......... shall we say...."unique".

*cough* "

injustice85 wrote on Mar 17, 2009 9:24 AM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Mar 16, 2009 11:09 PM:

" What's confusing you, junior is my often used line:

"I'm just a simple, humble, uneducated man."

I use it sarcastically because I am not simple, and I'm admittedly not humble, and I'm anything but uneducated.

But ironically, you can't brag enough about your educatin' from Crayola-Tech in Cumoonicatin' and then you turn around and display some of the least competent communication skills in here.

Foe God sake Burn-out,

most of the time you struggle to string two coherent sentences together.

And of course your ability to follow logic and reason is......... shall we say...."unique".

*cough* "

...yup it is pretty difficult to retort to your idea of "logic" lol, does you dictionary have logic labeled as- making fun of college students and the homeless lol, you are a lovely reflection of everything continuosly wrong with this country, The sad part is that I'm such a silly youth yet you feel the need to keep going here BBD, I must strike a nerve somehow lol, keep on making yourself look bad it'll do wonders for that BUSINESS lol "