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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:46 PM CST
To spend or not to spend?: University economists weigh in



CHARLESTON — The national financial crisis is proving to be uncharted territory for many experts, including economics professors at Illinois public universities.

And even as leaders of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate announced an agreement Wednesday on a $790 billion stimulus package, educators differed in their views on the role of government spending in revitalizing the economy. Some economics professors believe immediate and massive federal spending is the best answer, while others essentially said the opposite.

Consequently, educators also disagreed about the stimulus package that President Barack Obama may sign soon.

“This is economics, not politics,” said Noel Brodsky, associate professor of economics at Eastern Illinois University and author of the book “A Short Drive Through the 21st Century: The Future of Energy, Trade and Demographics.”

“Do you want to save the economy or not? The answer is spend.”

But in a full-page ad Monday in The Wall Street Journal, about 250 economists from across the country — including more than a dozen from Illinois universities — signed off on a statement from the conservative CATO Institute criticizing government spending as a means of stimulating the current economy.

“The hard empirical evidence just doesn’t support the notion that changes in economic activity are affected by discretionary fiscal policy actions,” said R.W. Hafer, chair of the Department of Economics and finance director for the Office of Economic Education Education and Business Research at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville.

“Short-term changes in taxes and federal spending do not seem very effective in countering an economic downturn,” said Hafer, who also spent a decade as a research economist with the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.

Instead, Hafer pointed to data that expansionary monetary policy precedes economic recovery, and he favored policy actions “in the form of lowered interest rates and more rapid growth in the money supply.”

But Brodsky argued that “if you can’t get monetary policy to work, (then) the only answer you’ve got left is fiscal: government spending.

“I think that’s the situation we’re in right now,” he said. “Forget tax cuts; spend like crazy — spend as much as you can ... We need a stimulus, and it needs to happen really, really fast.”

Brodsky also said he supports the general principles behind the stimulus plan, but he takes exception to some of its specifics — namely, tax cuts and tax credits — which Brodsky believes “will not work (because) they’re not going to happen fast enough.”

Like Hafer, Peter Colwell, a professor at the University of Illinois in Champaign-Urbana who teaches real estate finance, appears on the CATO Institute statement. He did not disagree that government spending would create measurable job growth.

“Unfortunately, (spending) will also reduce jobs, and the jobs that it eliminates will not be measurable,” Colwell said.

“The increase in government spending will cause funds to be withdrawn from other activities as the government funds the various projects by floating bonds. That is, expenditures in other sectors will decline.”

Rather, Colwell called for boosting government insurance for deposits and business loans; examining whether accounting rules are affecting banks’ reluctance to make loans; reducing the corporate tax rate to encourage international investment in the United States; and prohibiting mortgages in which the loan is greater than 80 percent of the value of the borrower’s property.

For borrowers who are already in default, Colwell said, “They need to become renters; after all, their equity is zero.”

The stimulus package, he also said, “will not produce a recovery.”

Hafer said he fears a “dramatic shift in the perception of what government’s role in the economy should be” because of the stimulus package, as well as the federal plan to tackle the credit market crunch.

“This change will have lasting effects on the economy, as it will increase the deficit and the government’s debt,” said Hafer. “While a growing economy can offset those outcomes, the more important question is whether, once the storm has passed ... the government’s role (will) diminish, or will it remain at this heightened level?

“Are we moving into a new era where the government is the solution?”

At EIU, James Bruehler, an economics professor, said the effect of government spending programs in the Great Depression is unclear. And even though Obama pledged that the stimulus plan “would take the form of investment projects that could justify themselves on their own merits, (that) is not what we see when we look at the details of the packages coming out of the House and the Senate,” Bruehler said.

He noted that he does support an increase in unemployment benefits, which is part of the stimulus package, “not because it will stimulate the economy but because it will help displaced workers cope with the downturn. It is simply the right thing to do.”

Additionally, Bruehler is in favor of grants to the states included in the stimulus package. “If you are going to attempt discretionary stimulus, the fastest thing you can possibly do is act to prevent state and local government spending from shrinking,” he said.

Contact Nathaniel West at nwest@jg-tc.com or 238-6860.


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coonbug wrote on Feb 12, 2009 12:09 PM:

" I think we ALL, including the experts, are going to learn a lot during the next two years about our economy and whether government can HELP or not.

None of us have experience with what is happening today -- those claiming they KNOW the answers are just plain lying.

Doing nothing is NOT the answer, unless you want to seem thousands more out of jobs and banks folding.

http://coonsey.wordpress.com/ "

coonbug wrote on Feb 12, 2009 12:13 PM:

" I just heard. Remember the $2 billion earmark for FutureGen, the Illinois "clean coal" plant? That's been zeroed out in the final stimulus pact.

Thanks to your friendly Republicans. "

BlueSky3640 wrote on Feb 12, 2009 2:02 PM:

" Government has the power to do a lot of things and can effectuate significant change, and it may even be able to save this economy more quickly through spending than tax cuts or even inaction will, but were going to have to begin asking what is the long-term price of our short-term financial rescue. Standing alone, perhaps an $800 billion stimulus package would put us on the road to recovery, but when added to a $700 billion bailout last fall, a stimulus package last spring, national debt of several trillions of dollars, and impending shortfalls in Social Security and Medicare, we may be creating an insurmountable debt where we will be asking who is going to bail out the United States. "

BlueSky3640 wrote on Feb 12, 2009 3:21 PM:

" And as for FutureGen, all of us hope well see that project become a reality, but how its removal from the stimulus package is the fault of Republicans escapes me. Republicans have been virtually shutout of the process of creating this stimulus package. Not to mention, Democrats control the White House and have substantial majorities in the House and Senate. While Republicans have balked at much of the spending in this bill, with the current state of Democratic control, Republicans were not the reason FutureGen was removed from the bill. "

Stanley Stetson wrote on Feb 12, 2009 4:58 PM:

" * coonbug squawks in on how truely libtarded she is * how is coonsey's world these days * i'll bet it is just booming, huh * lol * "

Hammbone wrote on Feb 12, 2009 5:49 PM:

" You want to see this economy grow,give the money to the population.Goggle the US population and you get some 300+million people.I mean really give everyone a million and you will see the economy grow by leaps and bounds.Dont tax them on it,but what the people buy with the money will be taxed normally. All I hear is we need this to stimulate the economy. Giving it to all the bankers that squander it is not what I call stimulus. If this Government wants to help the american people, by all means help the people. We the people paid into the government all are working lives.We are the richest Government in the world. And if this Government is for the people,by the people,where in the hell is the help we people need.The banks are getting a hand out,and squandering as fast as they can cover there tracks.The honest working person is up aginst the wall and there giving it to the banks! You got to be kidding me.Give that money to the people that made this country great,the military vets,they should get 2 million,because they put there butt's on the line to protect us.
Excuse me, Mr.President do something for the people as you spoke about to get elected,only i didnt buy into your speel,I knew you would short change the people of this great nation.He's just like all the other jokers that talk a good game to get elected,but when it comes to helping the people ,excuses abound out there mouths and the people get short changed.
Do something for the people and you will be a great president.Give this stimulus package to the people instead of the jokers that got us into this mess
I cant beleave how stupid this Government is towards its own people.Congress got there money for there pork,but the american people get the shaft.You want to stimulate the economy give it to the people not the bankers,not the major corperations, not the state governments. "

Cognitus wrote on Feb 13, 2009 9:24 AM:

" Blue Sky:" And as for FutureGen, all of us hope well see that project become a reality, but how its removal from the stimulus package is the fault of Republicans escapes me."

Blue Sky is a litte dense this morning;
BS, have some coffee to clean out your brain before writing.

Republicans have CHOPPED UP THE DEMOCRATS FOR A WEEK TO THE EFFECT THAT (1) THE MONEY SPENT WAS TOO GREAT AND LOTS OF THINGS HAD TO BE CUT AND (2) TAX CUTS SHOULD TAKE PRIORITY AND **PROJECTS** SHOULD BE MARKED OUT.

That is, in the compromise: REPUBLICANS FORCED DEMOCRATS to CUT PROJECTS. And FutureGen happened to be one of those cut. If one Republican had stood up and said "NO not that one" they might have saved it. But it was Republicans who demanded that PROJECTS like FGen be cut, so they were in no position to say NO for any particular project. "

Cognitus wrote on Feb 13, 2009 9:40 AM:

" Hambone:"" You want to see this economy grow,give the money to the population.Goggle the US population and you get some 300+million people.I mean really give everyone a million"

Hambone's arithmetic is a little fuzzy.Doesn't Hambone realize how much
300 million people x $1,000,000/person
would amount to? That would be
$300,000,000,000,000. i.e. $300 Trillion. "

The Question wrote on Feb 13, 2009 11:08 AM:

" This one, please:

That is, in the compromise: REPUBLICANS FORCED DEMOCRATS to CUT PROJECTS. And FutureGen happened to be one of those cut. If one Republican had stood up and said "NO not that one" they might have saved it. But it was Republicans who demanded that PROJECTS like FGen be cut, so they were in no position to say NO for any particular project. "
---
Well put and worth repeating, Cognitus. You've got to love seeing these Republicans play dumb about THEIR PARTY killing their beloved FutureGen TWICE.
Cheer for your do-nothing Dr. No party, Republicans. Better that your family go without food than that they eat any of that awful "porkulus," isn't it?
As for me, I think FutureGen sounded dangerous anyway. Take down your pathetic FutureGen begging signs and move on, Mattoon. You've been played for fools twice by the GOP. Grow up. "

jd50 wrote on Feb 13, 2009 1:01 PM:

" Oh cog lighten up potatoes potodoes,aint nun of us poe folks gettin a bone anyway. "

 


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