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Sunday, January 4, 2009 10:53 PM CST
LETTER: FBI, CIA should look into Bush administration

By TERRENCE McGUIRE, Stewardson

Ah, in about 20 days we get rid of a liar, conspirator, polecat, I’m sure everyone has a pet name for Bush.

After lying about the reasons we went into Iraq under false rumors, Bubba’s answer was “so what.” I for one cannot understand his answer, especially when over 4,500 of our young men and women have lost their lives and this guy has the nerve to say “so what.”

Lame duck flies across the world trying to prove he was right to invade Iraq, while the world knows it was criminal. The biggest error this country has ever made, seems to be in his eyes, I’m right, you’re wrong.

Let’s remember his legacy tour and teach it to our children and grandchildren.

Bush’s legacy has no end. Invading a country under manufactured lies. Not only ruining the financial markets but the world’s.

To be fair, Bill Clinton should share this award with Republicans. Trying to bust all unions under his watch.

Giving billions of dollars to the crooks on Wall Street and banks who immediately went on retreats (parties). Instead of using it to help main stream Americans survive.

Bush bailout money went to bonuses of the companies which under ole Hank Paulson rules, goes to the company from which he came from.

After the billions which these companies received, one of them throws a big event for their cronies, another has a special hunting trip, dressed in old English costumes with our bailout money.

When the big three threw their hat into the ring, the first thing brought up were the union workers.

They caused the problem, it’s the blue collar guys who are scamming the tax payers.

Isn’t it un-American to ask American workers to lower their wages to meet foreign wages, but give Germany and Volkswagen millions of dollars to buy land and build factories from taxpayers and the topper is for every worker they hire, we the taxpayers give Germany $200,000 per worker.

The graft in the White House should be put under a special committee set up by the FBI and CIA to look into the books of the last eight years and the future.

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gringa wrote on Jan 4, 2009 11:41 PM:

" Poor Terrence.

Rather than tearing your opinion apart piece by piece, I'll just tackle the first statement and leave the rest of it to others.

Although I've had my disagreements with his administration on many issues, my pet name for him is still Mr President. Considering all America has been through since January 2001 (including a most uncooperative transition from President Clinton), he's done a pretty good job of holding this world together.

If you supported Barack Obama, isn't it about time you did some *changing* of your own? "

Rotty wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:14 AM:

" The next time I have to listen to one of my mother-in-law's rants, I'm blaming Bush!
Either that, or Susan Humphreys.
LOL! "

Becky wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:19 AM:

" Are you Bush supporters ever going to take your heads out of the sand? Is it OK for the Bush administration to cherry pick only the intel to take us to an unnecessary war killing and maiming MILLIONS just because they call themselves Republican? Is it OK to blow the cover of a covert CIA operative who had an inside on Iran's nuke progams just to get even with her husband who WAS RIGHT about the Niger allegations? This is just 2 of their stunts while in office and it's OK with you just because they're not Democrats? Just take away the term Republican and you all would be mad as a hatter over this stuff. It's time for 3rd and 4th party politicians in office to break this power hold that BOTH Dems and Reps have over Washington and us. Neither party is loyal to us so why should we feel loyal to them? It IS (so far) still a government of we the people and it's time we take OUR power back! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:19 AM:

" Just a idea here, Rotty. You might want to keep your posting name from the mother-in-law. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:24 AM:

" How long will this thread be free of Blowdog's obsessive I hate Obama and he's going to fail rants. Not long, I'm guessing. lol! "

The Question wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:16 AM:

" Excellent letter.
One of our Republican Emily Posts here advises me that it's impolite to refer to Bush as ape, although he clearly is one. However, I have permission to refer to him as a "bag of slime," the same term our Emily applies to Bill Clinton.
So so long, you rotten, stinking bag of slime. You will be gone, but Americans will be left dealing with the horrors you have caused for decades to come. "

julio wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:41 AM:

" How about the no-bid contracts he gave to Cheneys company? No-bid. Meaning charge whatever you want and you get the contract. "

julio wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:49 AM:

" How about the no-bid contracts he gave to Cheneys company? No-bid. Meaning charge whatever you want and you get the contract.
And for the argument that "Bush has kept us safe the last 7 years"... Unfortunantly in the other year of his term we had the only attack on American soil.
And how about stealing both of his elections.
Yes, he needs to be investigated. "

The Question wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:36 AM:

" " How about the no-bid contracts he gave to Cheneys company? No-bid. Meaning charge whatever you want and you get the contract. "
---
And don't forget that KBR used one of those no-bid, no-performance contracts to electrocute 16 U.S. troops in their shoddy showers. Thanks for your patriotic service, Cheney company. "

Rotty wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:37 AM:

" Thanks, HP.
LOL!
She'll never own a computer, or get near one, so I'm safe, even from the printed version, if that would dare make it.
A couple of my family members who do read over this venue, sometimes, will see the humor in it, though.
LOL
Thanks for the heads-up, my friend.
LOL
:-) "

The Question wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:35 AM:

" Iraq was Bush's blank check to the criminals in the military-industrial complex. The trillion-dollar bailout is his blank check to the criminals on Wall Street.
Unbridled, irrational fear-mongering and greed sealed the deal in both cases, and underlined the fact that the form of government practiced by Bush and Cheney is not democracy, but kleptocracy. "

father bob wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:49 AM:

" great letter "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:57 AM:

" Okay, first let's straighten out our federal agencies.

FBI investigates infractions involving the criminal code, most of the time involving cases that cross state lines, and certain crimes that fall into the federal realm.

CIA is concerned with the matters concerning the security of the United States and its involvement with other countries. The CIA cannot investigate American citizens except for reasons of possible treason or espionage assuming those reasons involve other countries.

The financial security of the United States falls into the purveyance of the Secret Service. They were originally founded to investigate and prosecute countefeiters who were endangering our economy with fake money. In time that role was expanded to include just about anything having an influence upon the economy. That includes investigation into frauds involving social security monies and retirement funds, and even the protection of highly placed political figures since what happens to these figures has a direct effect on our economy.

On a political level, committees are set up by the House or the Congress to investigate possible infractions from within. They may call to witness anyone that they wish, and quite often these hearings are broadcast on the public airwaves. When the investigation is complete, this committee decides whether or not the investigated individuals will be cleared or turned over to Federal authorities for prosecution.

Of course, not being a legal type, this may not be 100 per cent accurate. but only in the ball park. I really look forward to the legally inclined responding for my own personal education.

And I do have a favorite name for G.W. I refer to him as "Mr. President." "

dkmn6708 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 12:20 PM:

" After seeing the headline for this letter I couldn't help but chime in. Let me get this straight the CIA is supposed to donate time and manpower to investigate the president. Since when is it the Central Intelligence Agency's job to investigate domestic politicians? Especially when one of their main purposes is to assist the president by providing him with foreign intelligence. Some of that intel they provided was used by the president so he could, as you say, lie to go to war. Some one needs to do a little basic research on what the CIA does before writing a letter saying that they should devote resources to do another agency's job. If it was the CIA's job to investigate our politicians and release their findings to the public 99% of politicians would resign immediately to avoid embarrassment and the other 1% would cling to their position and act like Blago. "

even steven wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:10 PM:

" Wow... Bush Derangement Syndrome really does exist! "

The Question wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:18 PM:

" Last week, a federal district judge ruled in favor of a case brought by the survivors of the crew of the USS Pueblo, a spy ship captured by the North Korean Navy in 1968, who were held prisoner by North Korea for 11 months, and who were tortured in captivity. The judge awarded the men $65 million in damages from the state of North Korea.
Good. And when are people the people whom Bush and Cheney have extra-legally imprisoned and tortured going to see any justice? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:42 PM:

" Things are so bad for the corrupt GOP that even a Saturday Night Live comedian can defeat one of their veteran senators. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:55 PM:

" If that happens, TQ, let's hope the judge orders Bush and Cheney to pay the damages out of their own pockets. From all the money those two have probably syphoned off, they can certainly afford it. lol! The tax payers should not have to foot the bill for the illegal actions of those two reprobates.

And insult to injury, did you see where Bush the elder is now saying his other son should be president some day. From what I've read about Jeb Bush and his family, and their criminal activities, they should all be on Americas Most Wanted TV show. The drunken orgies the Bush twins got involved with were nothing compared to the stuff Jeb's kids have done. They make the Bush twins look like girl scouts. But that's a story for another day.

But I'm sure there are those who would salivate at the very thought of another scumbag Bush in the White House.

Heaven help us! "

medic57 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:42 PM:

" Last week, a federal district judge ruled in favor of a case brought by the survivors of the crew of the USS Pueblo, a spy ship captured by the North Korean Navy in 1968, who were held prisoner by North Korea for 11 months, and who were tortured in captivity. The judge awarded the men $65 million in damages from the state of North Korea.

Now there's a really smart expenditure of time and money, I'm sure North Korea is getting out their checkbook right now. What an idiot judge.

gringa

I don't even know where to start with Terrence's latest letter. "

injustice85 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:51 PM:

" it should be Obamas first bit of business to investigate Bush if you ask me "

eugene wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:24 PM:

" No injustice, they will be investigating Obama. Where did he say he left that birth certificate ? Oh that's right he was born in Hawaii. "

just wondering wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:42 PM:

" When you can create as many votes as you need in Minnesota to win an election, it's hard to lose. What's happening in Minnesota makes what happened in Florida look tame. But our lib friends are kind of blind to that. "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 6, 2009 4:45 AM:

" Medic, aside from the fact that a precedent was set making governments responsible for such actions, I would like to point out that countries usually do not keep all of their money inside their own borders. Countries tied into North Korea and which posess assets belonging to North Korea would have to play ball or be made to share in the responsibility. Any assets belonging to North Korea that lie in other lands are now fair game. Plus any assistance that North Korea my request now or in the future would have a lien upon it. And if North Korea had assets in the United States that were present before the current situation developed, our government, through the judicial system, could now legally transfer those funds to satisfy the terms of the suit. The surviving crew now own a portion of North Korea. This debt will pass along to their estates. It will remain, having an effect on the relationship of North Korea with the rest of the world, until that government chooses to make amends.

No matter which way you look at it, North Korea lost.

Besides, some things are worth fighting for even if you really do not get much more than satisfaction. And that judge was not stupid. He tried the case brought to his bench. He tried it legally. He tried it well. He did his job.

It isn't for a judge to say that someone cannot have their day in court because the defendents will not be able or will refuse to pay. He made the right decision based upon current laws. And don't think that our government won't use that decision if they need to.

And for those of you still ranting about Obama's birth certificate, let it go. It doesn't matter where in the world the man was born. His mother was a citizen of the United States. He could have been born in the far reaches of Outer Mongolia and still be a citizen.

The offspring of our citizens do not lose their status as citizens just because their parents were away from home at the time. That would make half of the children born to members of the military foreign nationals. Most of them are granted dual status, becoming citizens of both the country their parents are members of, and the country where they were physically born until such a time as they become old enough to decide which country they wish to belong to.

Even if born on foreign soil, which is doubtful, it is obvious now which country Obama chose. "

Early Bird wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:37 AM:

" I find it interesting that some folks who have no idea of how the vote recount in Minnesota took place can speak with such authority. One would think they were actually there when the recount took place.

I guess they must be getting their information from Fox news, or the once proud Wall Street Journal which has been polluted with a new yellowish color by its new owner, Rupert Murdoch. You know the fair and balanced guy from Australia. Quite funny! "

Early Bird wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:52 AM:

" George Bush has now proposed to set aside millions of acres of to protect wild life.

What a pathetic attempt to salvage his legasy.

Since when did he ever propose any thing positive for the environment?

He has his staff and family members running around the country with a talking points list too. What else will we see in the new couple of weeks?

Hey George, it's kind of late. As the old saying goes, you made your bed so now you can lay in it. "

medic57 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:52 AM:

" Techno Less

And for those of you still ranting about Obama's birth certificate, let it go. It doesn't matter where in the world the man was born. His mother was a citizen of the United States. He could have been born in the far reaches of Outer Mongolia and still be a citizen.

You are absolutely WRONG. The Presidents mother can be born anywhere in the world, but the president HAS to be a natural born citizen, born in one of the 50 US States or on a US Military Base., but you are right about one thing, leave it alone, if he wasn't a Natural Born Citizen, it would have come out by now, and it hasn't. "

Sunbeam wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:18 AM:

" Unbelievable. So glad that none of you all are my Judge and Jury. And not ALL Americans know Bush lied. I, for one, like most things he has done, do not consider him a liar (and perhaps some of you should look into a mirror!) and I still call him my President and I appreciate his service to our country.
Some of you need to get a life. "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:54 AM:

" Wrong, yourself. Medic.

Title 8 of the U.S, Code which legally fills in the gaps present in the 14th ammendment to the constitution contains a list of those considered natural born citizens. Check this one out!

"Anyone born outside of the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years, with military and diplomatic service included."

Obama's mother grew up in this country, I believe. I think that satisfies the five year requirement. "

Mike P wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:56 AM:

" Looks will be taken, but having the foxes count the chickens, usually doesn't come out right, for some reason. Even getting the US attorney generals office, to look into possible impropriety, right out of the gate, would be like hiring Madoff for your lawyer/accountant.

Several last minute actions took place, to be in force, before offices change hands. Pardons, and preemptive security blankets, are yet to be completed.

Some of these crimes, ultimately aren't worth the time and money, invested to fight them, even if they result in convictions.

Study what failed, and put some teeth in the laws to enforce them severely. Several aspects of prevalent government and corporate corruption, should be tantamount to treason. Long prison terms if not life, and not in the luxury sweets often reserved for prominent inmates. Siezure of assets, and freedom, is the only thing that will quell corruption.

As long as there are no teeth in the law, it is just a toothless poodle, that may nip at their ankles, after costing millions to investigate and prosecute.

Short of scrapping every government job held in the last 8 years, and starting from scratch, this is going to be a game of blind mans bluff, trying to sift through the mess. The next administration, will have to set rules, and determine what works, and what doesn't, all while trying to keep the economy from completely imploding.

If war contractors, can pay most their people at least 100k a year, the gov't could start a military support branch, and raise soldiers pay and come out way ahead, by cutting out middlemen and sharing resources. Why have soldiers do a tour, and go back as mercinaries, for 2 or 3 x the pay. Military operations, need to be completely military personel, and not have our fighting men and women, treated as second class soldiers. "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:05 AM:

" Since embassies and military bases are declared by the hosting countries to be U.S. territory, then anyone born on these properties are born on U.S. soil and also living there can still fill the five year requirement.

This legal definition provides the means to include as natural citizens those offspring born to U.S. citizens married to foreign nationals and living in that foreign nationals country of origin when the birth does not occur on officially recognized U.S. soil. These offspring generally are granted dual citizenships in each of these countries until old enough to decide which one he or she will be a citizen of. Some of these offspring retain both citizenships for an extended period of time.

Obama and others like him are legally natural born citizens of the United States of America. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:31 AM:

" It is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons [in Iraq].

-President Bill Clinton

(on "Larry King Live" on July 22, 2003 four months after the Iraq War began) "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:34 AM:

" Serving on the Intelligence Committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddams weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

- John Edwards Democrat Senator "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:36 AM:

" Saddams existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose real threats to America today, tomorrow....

[He] is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East. He could make these weapons available to many terrorist groups, third parties, which have contact with his government. Those groups, in turn, could bring those weapons into the United States and unleash a devastating attack against our citizens. I fear that greatly.

- Jay Rockefeller (Senior Chairman of Senate Select Intel Comm) October 10, 2002. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:38 AM:

" We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.

- Carl Levin Democrat Senator September 19, 2002 "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:40 AM:

" It is clear that he [Saddam Hussein] has a residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons.

- Joseph Biden Democrat Senator August 4, 2002. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:43 AM:

" In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.

- Hillary Clinton Democrat Senator October 10, 2002 "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:45 AM:

" He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do

- Henry Waxman Democrat Rep Oct 10, 2002 "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:55 AM:

" There`s no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat ? Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He`s had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001 ? He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn`t have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we.

- General Wesley Clark (former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO during Clinton Admin) on September 26, 2002 "

The Question wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:10 AM:

" "C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."
-- The Downing Street memos, in which the head of the British Secret Service reported that WMD "intelligence" was being "fixed" to justify invasion. "

The Question wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:12 AM:

" Colin Powell in Cairo Feb. 24, 2001:
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass
destruction. He is unable to project conventional
power against his neighbors." "

The Question wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:13 AM:

" Condoleeza Rice in July 2001:
"We are able to keep his arms from him. His military
forces have not been rebuilt." "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:32 AM:

" ...... and I still call him my President and I appreciate his service to our country.

And would that service include the year he went AWOL from the Guard? Oh yeah, that can't be proved can it? What with his military record mysteriously disappearing and all. lol! "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:44 AM:

" On a more amusing note, two married Greek citizens immigrate to the United States with their infant son. In time all three become naturalized U.S. citizens, renouncing their Greek citizenship status in their oath.

Greece is one of the countries that does not recognize the renouncement contained in the oath, and maintains the status of the Greek citizens for the life of the three individuals, making all three in posession of dual citizenship.

If the infant son grows up and returns to Greece after the age of eighteen, he could then be arrested by the Greek government for failure to participate in that country's conscription process.

The possibility exists that they could also be charged with income tax evasion.

In some countries they could be charged with carrying a false passport. In other countries they could carry two passports.

Citizenship, especially involving multi-national parties, is a very complicated issue. There are literally people in the world with five or more claims to citizenships. Or five or more countries claiming them.

Thankfully, Obama's case is an easy one. He could have been born on American soil to naturalized parents who have lived here for twenty years but whose country of origin still considers them to be citizens there.

I haven't yet heard what status has been granted to Obama by his father's home country, but that would be interesting to know. They did throw quite a party. "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:07 AM:

" I just managed to answer my own question.

Kenya recognizes the dual citizenship of individuals born to Kenyan citizens and foreign nationals and bestows these rights of citizenship in Kenya upon reaching age 21. However, at the age of 23 this citizenship is dropped if the individual chooses instead to reside in the other parent's home country.

Obama was already several years old when his mother was married to an Indonesian national. They resided in the United States for a few more years until Indonesia recalled all of its students studying on foreign soil. Indonesia was the country of Obama's stepfather. This does not give him citizenship rights in this country. He also left Indonesia after only a few years, then moved in with his mother's parents in the United States. He has lived here ever since.

Which means that Obama can only legally claim one right to citizenship: that of a natural born American citizen. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:18 AM:

" BOISE, Idaho (AP) - Workers recently completed a $236,000 renovation to U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne's office bathroom in Washington, D.C., including asbestos and lead paint removal, handicapped access, a refrigerator and shower, and wood paneling to match the rest of the office.

_________________

And personalized towels to boot!

Heck of a job Dirkie... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:37 AM:

" As the clock winds down on the Bush administration, historians and critics are coming to grips with how little they know about some of the scandals which helped make the president one of the least popular leaders in modern U.S. history. From the secret wiretapping program to the so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" to the firing of a number of US Attorneys, the question remains of how high up administration officials were involved in authorizing many of these scandals.

ABC news-

________________

The Bush years will be a gold mine for historians of the future, especially those who write on scandals. It should make good reading. "

medic57 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 12:40 PM:

" Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.

One must also be at least 35 years of age to be president. John F. Kennedy was the youngest person to be elected president; he was 43 years old when he was inaugurated in 1961. There is no maximum age limit set forth in the Constitution. Ronald Reagan was the oldest president; at the end of his term in 1988, he was nearly 77.

Finally, one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen. The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged.
These are the only explicit criteria in the Constitution. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 12:58 PM:

" The Downing Street Memo was a fraud:

From the AP: Smith (The source for the Downing Street Memo) told AP he protected the identity of the source he had obtained the documents from by typing copies of them on plain paper and destroying the originals.

No originals have ever been found.

ROFL! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 1:05 PM:

" It is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons [in Iraq].
-President Bill Clinton July 2003

Clinton says "there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons" in Iraq when he left office in Jan 2001;

what happened to those WMD? "

The Question wrote on Jan 6, 2009 1:15 PM:

" As Tom Englehardt observed, "President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, and the various neocons in the administration were fundamentalist idolaters -- and what they worshipped was the staggering power of the U.S. military. They were believers in a church whose first tenet was the efficacy of force above all else. Though few of them had the slightest military experience, they gave real meaning to the word bellicose. They were prejudiced towards war."
And in addition to being brutally callous, they were dead wrong, as we have seen. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 1:20 PM:

" Why did the U.N. produce 17 different resolutions demanding that Saddam not only get rid of his WMD, but show proof of disarmament? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 3:08 PM:

" Why did Obama (during his campaign) tell the world that Iran was not a threat? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 3:17 PM:

" Tell me Moonbats;

Why did this happen?

House Democrats kill resolution to impeach Bush

June 12 2008 Democratic members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously to kill an impeachment resolution against President Bush introduced by Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio.

Kucinich himself participated fully in the farce. He introduced the resolution Monday and read out the 35 articles of impeachment for crimes ranging from the lying pretexts given to the American people for the war in Iraq to torture at the US detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and illegal domestic spying. Then he moved to send the resolution to the House Judiciary Committee, whose chairman John Conyers has long rejected any effort to hold Bush constitutionally accountable. This move will have the effect of burying the bill indefinitely.

Hmmmmmmm?

Can you Moonbat Lib-Loons explain this? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 6, 2009 3:31 PM:

" The Clinton Administration was the FIRST to make the claim that Saddam Hussein had a WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH AL QAEDA.

In fact, Bill Clinton claimed that Iraq and Bin Laden were developing WMD together.

Tell me you Moonbat Lib-Loons; why aren't you demanding any hearings about THAT Intel? "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 6, 2009 4:41 PM:

" Article 2, section 1 of the United States Constitution establishes the offices of the President and Vice President of the United States and how they are selected.

This section requires that a candidate for the Presidency be a "natural born" citizen of the United States with a minimum age of 35 years and having resided within the United States for at least fourteen years.

Because of the vagueness of the definition, Title 8, Section 1401 was added to the civil code to further define what it meant to be "natural born". The list of those who qualify for the term "natural born" include those that I have already described in an earlier posting.

Nowhere within the constitution nor the additional Title 8 can you find it written that both parents must also be citizens of the United States. Five minutes on a search engine will demonstrate this for you. I have my own copies to refer to.

Under the provisions of these documents, the child of an illegal immigrant who was born within the United States can be eligible for the presidency even if he or she lived for some time outside the United States. A naturalized citizen cannot be president.

The original loopholes were written to include those persons who had immigrated to the American colonies less that fourteen years prior to the writing of the constitution but were present and fought for America during the Revolutionary War. Being present at the ratification of the constitution made them automatic naturalized citizens. Since all of these individuals are now dead, this loophole has no more influence.

For a naturalized citizen to attain the office of president, the nation would have to approve and ratify an ammendment to the constitution which would be used to enhance the original document. Ratification is accomplished through separate voting in all of the states rather than through a national process.

Approving and ratifying new constitutional ammendments is extremely difficult to pull off, and is rarely accomplished. To date only twenty seven have been approved and ratified. This includes the 21st ammendment which was written to repeal the 18th ammendment thereby ending the prohibition of alcohol.

The last attempt at adding an ammendment to the constitution was the late but great Equal Rights Ammendment. It failed to be ratified. "

ed miller wrote on Jan 6, 2009 4:52 PM:

" This letter sounds like a typical pro-union rant disguised as a political letter. I like how the bailout is supposedly all Bush's doings. I seem to remember Pelosi and Reid taking the Repub's in the house to task for voting against it. I guess Terrence thinks it's un-American to ask a union worker to give up being paid for doing nothing, but it's not un-American to ask the rest of us to subsidize their lifestyle and those of the executives. I would be interested to see how we give Germany 200k per worker they hire. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:36 PM:

" Last time I checked the CIA doesn't work inside the borders of the the US, Terry.

But maybe the FBI could investigate the miracle in Minnesota, Al Franken having more votes than Coleman?

Or is okay that in 25 counties in Minnesota more people voted, by substantial numbers, than there were legally registered in those counties?

I guess it's okay though 'cuz the democrat clown Franken got elected, huh? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:05 PM:

Techno-less wrote on Jan 7, 2009 4:30 AM:

" Oh, by the way. Teddy Roosevelt was the youngest elected president at age 42. "

Early Bird wrote on Jan 7, 2009 6:30 AM:

" Now that Franken has been declared the winner in Minnesota, it appears that our friend NeoCon Academician will have something else to whine about. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:55 AM:

" Techno-less... If my memory serves me correctly( no I wasn't there lol), Teddy Roosevelt was not the youngest elected president. John F. Kennedy was. Roosevelt was the youngest man to become president, but it was due to McKinley being assassinated. "

just wondering wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:45 AM:

" No early bird I wasn't at the Minnesota recount, and I would say that you weren't at the Florida recount. But you were justified in your complaint but the folks that complain about the Minnesota recount aren't. Talk about a hypocrite. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 7, 2009 10:09 AM:

" EarlyBird......

I'll only whine about your asinine comments.
---------------------------------

Oh Harry Potter...

We don't like it that some people read "big people newspapers" like the Wall Street Journal?

Here you go...

http://tinyurl.com/9cphd4

Maybe Vanity Fair or Oprah's "O" with all the diet and fashion articles are more your speed?
-------------------------

Now leave me alone I'm too busy keeping track of the Blago/Reid/Burris/Jesse White drama.

Who needs TV soap operas when you have the democratic party in power?

Can't wait to get "the messiah" sworn in!

And after all the corruption of the electoral process by all you socialists maybe we'll have comedian "Stuart Smalley" (Al Franken for remedial EarlyBird) in congress too!

Blah, haa, haa, snicker, snicker, blah, haa, haa...wait a minute let me catch my breathe and blow my nose...Blah, haa, haa, hee, hee, hee, Blah, haa, haa! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 7, 2009 11:48 AM:

" Or is okay that in 25 counties in Minnesota more people voted, by substantial numbers, than there were legally registered in those counties?

Your source for that, Neo? And please don't make it a Rupert Murdoch owned entity. lol! "

I reposted this for you Neo because you obviously missed it the first time around. I'll be waiting for your answer. Because I'm sure you can back up that claim about the 25 counties. lol! "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 7, 2009 1:17 PM:

" It appears our resident socialists here are "all in a dither" over Rupert Murdoch.

But my, my, my, isn't it amazing how nothing is said about how avowed socialist and leading democrat contributor George Soros FUNDED Barry Hussein Obama's and Stewart Smalley's, election through moveon.org "underneath" the Open Society Institute?

Talk about a Ponzi Scheme!

The OSI, through which all the following had the ability to give $2300, supports a wide array of leftist organizations, including:
MoveOn.org,
the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN);
the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU);
NARAL;
the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy;
the Tides Foundation;
the Tides Center;
the National Organization for Women; Feminist Majority;
People for the American Way;
Alliance for Justice;
Pro-Choice America;
America Coming Together;
the Center for American Progress; Campaign for Americas Future;
Amnesty International;
the Sentencing Project;
the Center for Community Change;
the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
Legal Defense and Educational Fund;
Campus Progress;
Free Exchange on Campus;
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington;
Democracy 21;
Human Rights Watch;
the Prison Moratorium Project;
the Immigrant Funders' Collaborative; the Moving Ideas Network;
the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement;
the No Peace Without Justice International Committee;
the National Lawyers Guild;
the Center for Constitutional Rights; the Coalition for an International Criminal Court;
the Abortion Access Project;
People of Color In Crisis;
The American Prospect;
the Gay Straight Alliance Network;
the Youth Law Center; Planned Parenthood;
the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy;
the Institute for Policy Studies;
Joint Victory Campaign 2004;
the Midwest Academy;
Jews for Racial and Economic Justice; Project Syndicate (an international association of newspapers that publish anti-American propaganda);
the Rocky Mountain Peace Center;
the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission;
Earth Rights International;
the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force;
the Nation Institute;
the Violence Policy Center;
Gun Violence Prevention;
Critical Resistance - Beyond the Prison Industrial Complex;
the Center for Investigative Reporting; the Million Mom March; Murder Victims' Families for Reconciliation;
the Death Penalty Information Center, the Death Penalty Mobilization Fund; the Drug Policy Alliance; the Brennan Center for Justice; the Project On Death in America; the Death with Dignity National Center; the Ms. Foundation for Women; the National Security Archive Fund; the Pacifica Foundation; Physicians for Human Rights; the Proteus Fund; the Public Citizen Foundation; the Urban Institute; the American Friends Service Committee; Catholics for a Free Choice; Human Rights First; the Independent Media Institute; and MADRE.

Well, well, well...hypocrisy once again rears it's ugly head through our socialist friends here! "

The Question wrote on Jan 7, 2009 1:46 PM:

" Concerning the Minnesota situation, it appears that nine hundred or so votes can be rather vague things in American elections.
You know, that's the way it is when I go to the bank, too. The bank says, "Nine hundred dollars may be there in your checking account, or it may not. We can't really tell. Have a nice day"
Funny, too, that the same people often make the machines in both cases -- so accurate in one case, so oddly imprecise in the other.
But then, I forget -- money is IMPORTANT, while accurately recording citizens' votes in a democratic republic is not (especially if they don't go the right way). "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 7, 2009 2:11 PM:

" Well, well, well...hypocrisy once again rears it's ugly head through our socialist friends here! "

Huh?

Let me help you out there Neo, you seem to be confused again. Soros is a lefty and being so supports a lot of left leaning organizations. I'm sure the Rupert Murdoch supports a lot of right learning organizations. Where's the hypocrisy at?

I'm sure that you being a right winger and all, there's a pretty good chance you support such right wing outfits as the KKK, the American Nazi party, the John Birch Society and other such right wing types of organizations. That certainly is your right. "

Dotty wrote on Jan 7, 2009 2:32 PM:

" OK< LETS TALK ABOUT HYPOCRISY!
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's home district includes San Francisco . Star-Kist Tuna's headquarters are in San Francisco , Pelosi's home district.

Star-Kist is owned by Del Monte Foods and is a major contributor to Pelosi. Star-Kist is the major employer in American Samoa employing 75% of the Samoan work force.

Paul Pelosi, Nancy 's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock. In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del Monte would not have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monte products less expensive than their competition's.

Last week when the huge bailout bill was passed, Pelosi added an earmark to the final bill adding $33 million dollars for an 'economic development credit in American Samoa '.

Pelosi has called the Bush Administration "CORRUPT" ? ? How do you spell "HYPOCRISY" ? ?

IT IS ENOUGH TO MAKE A HOLY PERSON ANGRY ENOUGH TO GO THROW THEM ALL OUT ON THEIR BEHINDS "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 7, 2009 3:12 PM:

" No Harry P. let me help you out.

We've gotten to hear all about "the vast right wing conspiracy" and how someone wealthy like Rupert Murdoch through Fox News and WSJ perpetuate it's agenda, manipulating public opinion and discourse.

Yet your side is all too oblivious as to any manipulation of public opinion or discourse by your side's wealthy liberals like George Soros. And we know that everything that is reported by NBC, ABC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, NYT, LA Times, and so forth is "the gospel truth" according to your side. Oddly enough many are seeing through the liberal news's manipulation of public opinion and discourse and that's why they've turned to Fox News, much to your chagrin.

You "open-minded" liberals can't fathom the fact, for whatever reason, that you've be dragged around by your noses for so many years by wealthy liberals like the Kennedy's and Soros, to name a couple, and a liberal-leaning press, that maybe there is another side to your "liberal gospel truth".

And that's why you bring up Rupert Murdoch, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh so incessantly.

So that's why I brought up George Soros. "

The Question wrote on Jan 7, 2009 3:50 PM:

" Interesting theory about media manipulation, Neo.
Did you read that in the Paris Business Review? "

The Question wrote on Jan 7, 2009 4:09 PM:

" That's right, Neo. You cant believe anything that you see on that far, far left network NBC, for example. You know, NBC is owned by those commies at the General Electric, the same radical lefty bunch that paid and trained that radical leftist subversive Ronald Reagan for his far, far, far leftist political career.
Thats why, when you see Dick Cheney talking on "Meet the Press," its not really Dick Cheney talking. Its a robot built by those lefties at GE for the radical leftists at NBC. RoboCheney is designed to undermine the confidence of Americas war-licking patriots by spouting cruel, obvious lies all the time. "

The Question wrote on Jan 7, 2009 5:25 PM:

" FYI, the "Paris Business Review" is the name of a nonexistent magazine that Fox News' star pundit Bill O'Reilly made up and lied about on the air to provide "evidence" that his call for a "boycott of France" was working. "

Mike P wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:10 PM:

" Cheney says Obama should keep terror policies. By the AP, is some of an interview, where The VP plays myth buster, and dispenses some candid advice. Look it up, and set your minds more at ease. "

The Question wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:46 PM:

" Advice from a lying fascist drunk who shoots people in the face. Yes, Obama should certainly heed that. "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:26 PM:

" Under the laws, the Vice President must meet the same qualifications as the president since he/she may have to take over for the President should the latter die or become incompacitated.

Even though the people
look primarily at the top of the ticket when choosing, the Vice President is part of that ticket and is voted into office just as the President is. This was the result of an adjustment made early on to the rules. Prior to this, the Vice President was the presidential candidate who came in second. Today the President and Vice President are joined at the hip for the election.

Therefore the Vice President was elected into the office to be that replacement.

The only exceptions are those Presidents, eg Gerald Ford, who was appointed to the office of Vice President after the election had been held in order to replace an ousted vice president, and who then slid into the presidential slot when Nixon resigned. Gerald Ford was never elected into the presidential office. He served the final two years of that term, then lost the bid in the next election.

This still makes Teddy Roosevelt the youngest president ever elected into the executive branch of the government. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:36 PM:

" Do me a favor The Question, don't respond to anything I write. All you do is embarrass yourself your mindless hyperbole.

Stay any from the local meth product too. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:14 PM:

" OK, let me try it a different approach. Care to name any of those 25 counties, Neo? "

just wondering wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:41 PM:

" When more votes are counted than ballots were requested, I would say yes there is a southern gentleman in the woodpile somewhere. But since the liberal wacko comes out ahead, we hear no complaints. If the result went the other way, our left wingers in here would be forming the lynch mob. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:52 PM:

" Excuse me Harry Larry;

would you care to answer this BIG BOUNCY LIST OF QUESTIONS YOU'VE BEEN RUNNING AWAY FROM FOR WEEKS LIKE A FRIGHTENED LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL?

Is Obama going to keep troops in Iraq?

Did Obama lie when he said he would tax the windfall profits on Big Oil?

Does Obama support warrant less wire tapping?

Does Obama now admit that Iran is a serious nuclear threat?

Did Obama lie during the campaign when he said Iran DID NOT present a threat?

Did Obama just make hypocrites and fools out of his little anti-war lemming followers by announcing he would nuke Iran if they nuked Israel?

Did Obama go back on his word of "Outside Washington Politics" and "Hope and Change" when he filled the majority of his Admin with former Clintonites?

Did Obama lie when he claimed his team never had any contact with Blago about the Senate seat?

Did Obama pick a corrupt Democrat to be his Sec of Commerce? "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 8, 2009 4:47 AM:

" I formally stand corrected. Evidently Teddy Roosevelt was an appointee the same as Gerald Ford. This would have made him 45 at the time of his first actual election into the executive office. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 7:41 AM:

" I have to wonder if Dotty is as offended by the actions of Dick Cheney and his push for the Iraq invasion, considering his financial ties to Halliburton. Is Dotty aware of what the war did to his Halliburton options? You know Dotty, those same options he promised to donate to charity almost 8 years ago.

I suspect Dotty is upset because it appears Pelosi is acting like a good Republican here.

I also suspect she might be treading on thin ice, what with the strong business ties that so many Republicans see to have. "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 7:56 AM:

" "Do me a favor The Question, don't respond to anything I write."
---
How could I resist a request from such a charming little fellow? "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:02 AM:

" To help Neo out, here is a brief list of the American media outlets that the fascist propagandist Rupert Murdoch owns:

All "Fox" outlets;
The New York Post;
The Wall Street Journal;
The Weekly Standard;
Direct TV;
STAR;
MY network;
20th Century Fox studios;
HarperCollins;
TV Guide;
MySpace.com;
Speed Channel;
National Geographic Channel;
FX channel. "

warrior wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:10 AM:

" How will the CIA look into anything that Bush has done when our new CIA Director has even less experience than Drama Obama does as being a leader? "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:25 AM:

" Yes, Neo, please do name those 25 Minnesota counties in which more people voted, "by substantial numbers," than were registered.
Given the fact that those counties do not exist, I suspect you'll have a tough time. LOL. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:39 AM:

" " Do me a favor The Question, don't respond to anything I write. All you do is embarrass yourself your mindless hyperbole.

Translation: I have no answer for you, just this inane little comment. He has a tendency to do that when he has no legitimate response.

Don't feel bad TQ, he won't answer my question about his bogus claim of a few days ago, regarding the Minnesota senatorial election either.

And do you think our friend Blowdog got lost yesterday, or is he possibly back in jail? lol...

Perhaps Walmart put him on a double shift yesterday and he was just to tired to post.

The question is what name will he come back under? Will it be Doh, Stanley Stetson, BlueDogDemocrat or any of the other names he's posted under over the last couple of years. Perhaps it will be a completely new name. Personally I'm hoping he continues with his current name, Blowdog.

I've also noticed that he quit posting kudos to himself using phony names. I guess that's because he now has his own fan club, NeoCon and Jon Vanutta, both of whom seem to be enamored with his messages. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 9:02 AM:

" I see Fox news is whining that the Obama administration is not about change, but is merely an extension of the Clinton administration.

When comparing the Clinton years with the last eight years, that might be a pretty good deal for the country.

Fox news should be happy Obama got elected, because they can now go on the offensive instead of having to play defense for the Bush regime, as they have for the last 8 years. Carrying water for Bush the last several years must have gotten tiring for that bunch.

And speaking of Fox news, yesterday when they were interviewing Donald Trump and he kept making complementary comment about Obama. The look of their faces was priceless. They were stunned at how Trump was complementing Obama, for once Steve Doofus couldn't speak. The whole crew from Fox and friends were in total disbelief and had to go to a hurried break to get composed. lol...

It was sort of like when old Limbaugh's screener accidentally lets an intelligent caller through and Rush, if he's outgunned, has to cut them off for a station break. Either that or goes into one of his rants, and of course they don't get to respond.

I'll bet the Donald won't be getting any calls from the fair and balanced folks for a while.

Fox news needs to stick with tried and true nutbags like Ann Coulter. No danger of that idiot saying something that might contradict the philosophy of Fox news. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 AM:

" Add the Loony Moony owned Washington Times yellow rag to the list of critics of Obama for having so many ex-Clinton staffers to his administration. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:15 AM:

" Just checking in to see if my friend, Neo answered the question we all want to know about, those 25 counties? "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 AM:

" Say, Harry, do you think Neo read those "facts" about the 25 Minnesota counties in the Paris Business Review?
I wonder if the PBR specified the "substantial numbers" of phony votes that were made in those nonexistent counties? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 8, 2009 12:41 PM:

" tsk tsk tsk

Looks like Harry Larry (The Liberal Stooge)

Is still running scared from my questions:

Is Obama going to keep troops in Iraq?

Did Obama lie when he said he would tax the windfall profits on Big Oil?

Does Obama support warrant less wire tapping?

Does Obama now admit that Iran is a serious nuclear threat?

Did Obama lie during the campaign when he said Iran DID NOT present a threat?

Did Obama just make hypocrites and fools out of his little anti-war lemming followers by announcing he would nuke Iran if they nuked Israel?

Did Obama go back on his word of "Outside Washington Politics" and "Hope and Change" when he filled the majority of his Admin with former Clintonites?

Did Obama lie when he claimed his team never had any contact with Blago about the Senate seat?

Did Obama pick a corrupt Democrat to be his Sec of Commerce?

*sigh*

What a little hypocritical coward...... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 12:46 PM:

" The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 AM:

" Say, Harry, do you think Neo read those "facts" about the 25 Minnesota counties in the Paris Business Review?

Nah, he probably got it from his fellow nutbag, Blowdog, or perhaps the religious expert, Vanutta.

Regardless, as Sarah Palin would say, he ain't talkin' bout it.... "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:00 PM:

" Any late-breaking news about those 25 counties for us, Neo? "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:33 PM:

" It's flattering to see that you both perseverate (look it up "The Question") on my ever posting here....

....are you my fans....or just fanatics? ;-)

In questioning why the both of you responded the way that you did, I see I posted the wrong URL. You are correct Harry in the fact that the 25 counties over-ballot allegation came from the WSJ. That is where I initially read it. When I get the chance I will try and find the WSJ on-line article from yesterday morning providing the allegations.

From memory of what I read from the Minneapolis-St Paul Tribune Sta though, there was a claim of something like 177 over-ballots in Ramsey county and something like 326 over-votes in Hennepin County. From memory, there were also issues with Anoka County and Dakota County over votes.

As the re-count/over-ballot situation is fluid, seriously though, if you'd like I can make some calls and try to get a more accurate picture. Just lemme know and I'll get back to you ASAP.

In the meanwhile, if you go to the Minnesota Secretary of State site there's a listing of allegations and challenges to the recount process. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:35 PM:

" HP wrote....

" Add the Loony Moony owned Washington Times yellow rag to the list of critics of Obama for having so many ex-Clinton staffers to his administration. "
----------------

In English, por favor? "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:49 PM:

" You know, Harry, I think American conservatives' love of education and factual information was best summarized by George W. Bush when he said, on March 28, 2000, in Reston, Va., "Reading is the basics for all learning."
Earlier, on Jan. 11, 2000, in Florence, SC., Bush had sagely observed, "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:06 PM:

" Marketing values, and not the professional journalist's mission of providing accurate information to the public, now dominate the American news media. On Fox News and talk radio, that descends into pure fascist propaganda.
This sacrifice of journalistic credibility to propaganda and amusement finally adds up to a form of societal suicide, like walking along a cliff's edge drunk, with your eyes closed.
We've seen some of the results already -- murderous invasions based on unexposed lies, constitutional protections shredded in the dark, a world economy collapsed by unreported and therefore unregulated financial fraud. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:13 PM:

" Is our children learning?"

You might have missed it, TQ, but I posted that one a few days ago. It's my all time favorite Bushism. lol... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:23 PM:

" Just trying to keep you honest, Neo.

And hey, did you get a new thesaurus for Christmas?

And I'll for forgive you, for violating my request restriction, as I guess you didn't know that your mentor Rupert Murdoch bought the WSJ. I would have thought the Obama bashing was a dead giveaway. lol... "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:26 PM:

" I've now been in 57 states ... I think one left to.

-Barack Obama "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:33 PM:

" Funny, Neo, that you gassed on in response without actually naming those 25 nefarious Minnesota counties in which more people voted, "by substantial numbers," than were registered. What were all their names again?
In fact, the Wall Street Journal screed you cite says nothing about any 25 counties, does it? And beyond your quoting it incorrectly, the WSJ editorial got many of its facts wrong. The Columbia Journalism Review on line details those errors.
Once Rupert Murdoch buys a news operation, everything just sinks right into the mire, doesn't it? "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:41 PM:

" If only Fox News had only been broadcasting in 1521, the world would have been treated to news stories like this one: "Spain has launched a preemptive strike on the Aztec people to protect Spain from an imminent attack by the Aztecs, an attack that Spanish intelligence reports could have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Spaniards." "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:53 PM:

" Harry, Bush also offered this gem in October 2003: "The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and bring them to justice."
And then there's this, from September 2004: "Free societies will be allies against those hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat."
Almost zen-like in its surreal stupidity, isn't it? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 8, 2009 4:10 PM:

" It is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons [in Iraq].

-President Bill Clinton "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 8, 2009 4:28 PM:

" Bawny Fwank: Obama stimulus plan too reliant on tax cuts

ROFL!

Barney Frank never met a government spending program he didnt like, at least until now. While expressing his overall approval for the scope of Barack Obamas stimulus proposal, Frank told NPR that it relies too much on tax cuts to stimulate the private sector and not enough on government confiscation of capital for redistribution by Washington elites. "

out-there wrote on Jan 8, 2009 5:48 PM:

" out-there wrote on Mar 31, 2008 6:04 AM:
" check out this site it will help pin point what bush has been doing to this country for almost 8 years.
Frontline/PBS/Bush's war " "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:27 PM:

" Some things that Republican politicians like. Dumping their wives for newer models, draft dodging, and young boys. "

The Question wrote on Jan 8, 2009 9:39 PM:

" "Some things that Republican politicians like. Dumping their wives for newer models, draft dodging and young boys."
---
Funny but, sadly, also true, Harry. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 PM:

" Obama eyes CIA official who defended Bush policies for top counterterror role

That would be John Brennan, his intel advisor during the campaign, whose support for Dubyas interrogation protocols after 9/11 (not including waterboarding) made him sufficiently radioactive to progressives to torpedo his chances at running Central Intelligence. A defeat for The One? Not quite: Instead of risking a confirmation battle with the left by naming Brennan to run CIA, hes evidently planning to move him upstairs to the White House to be his homeland security advisor which doesnt require Senate confirmation. And which, given the fact that the incoming CIA chief is a yes man with no experience, means Brennan will have plenty of influence over counterterrorism policy, especially domestically.

its unclear whether Obama will keep the Homeland Security Council (not to be confused with DHS) intact or roll it into the NSC, but Brennans role in shaping counterterror protocol seems guaranteed to be significant either way. The HSC is a Bush creation and operates very much below the radar, so Obama may decide to liquidate the brand while retaining the product and simply reassigning its personnel to a sister agency.

Well played, Messiah. Very well played.

And on that note, heres Newsweek editor Jon Meacham with your thought for the day:

http://tinyurl.com/78hq7f

-By Allahpundit

+++++++++

BWAAHAHAAAAHAAA

You Lib-Loons got a whole lot more than you bargained for, in ole Barry Hussein Obama!

ROLFMAO!!!!

I'm going to love these next four years! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 7:39 AM:

" You Lib-Loons got a whole lot more than you bargained for, in ole Barry Hussein Obama!

Do you get the idea someones a little bitter over the election results?

And this is from a genius who actually believes the earth is only 6000 years old. Pretty unbelievable, huh?

Did you catch yourself and almost say libtard, Doh? lol... "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:08 AM:

" (Harry Larry Potter prattled - Do you get the idea someones a little bitter over the election results?)

Yeah, YOU are.

LOL

-You never did cite any evidence that I claimed the world was only 6000 years old Harry Larry. Because you're lying of course.

-Where's all the outrage from you Liberal Stooges over Obama's fascist tactics? He's following Bush's playbook.
Where's all your righteous indignation over Obama's support for FISA, Harry Larry?

-Maybe I DO need to start calling you Stooges "Libtards". Whadda ya think Harry Larry?

LOL "

The Question wrote on Jan 9, 2009 10:28 AM:

" So how old is the planet Earth, Doggy Doh? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 10:32 AM:

" I see Sara Palin has got herself back in the limelight. I'm not surprised. This time it's a interview in which she now says it's the main stream medias fault that she and McCain lost.

No Sara, if anyone is to blame for dragging McCain down it's you. Your interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric in which you showed the world that you were nothing but a ignorant buffoon did you in. You tried to answer their questions like you were still running in a beauty beauty pageant.

The main stream media didn't expose you, you didn't need any help, you did a pretty good job all on your own.

You are now blasting Tina's Fey's portrayal of you, while in reality the one skit, where you rambled on in a disjointed and confused manner trying to answer a simple question, was almost word for word the way you responded to a question in a legitimate interview. I laughed pretty hard when I saw the SNL interview, but was rather shocked when I saw a repeat of the original interview, and realized that you actually said those things. I remember feeling sorry for McCain that he would actually pick someone so lacking as his choice as VP. What a sad way for McCain to be ending a long career of service to his country. Sadly, Palin's pathetic performance is what he will be remembered for.

The cutie pie winks and you betcha's may have played well with the hard core base, especially the uneducated trailer park variety of the GOP (with apologies to those who live in trailer parks), which didn't surprise me, but the rest of the country grew tied of that nonsense rather quickly. You were running for VP of the USA, not high school homecoming queen.

You had no idea of what Bush's policies were, you couldn't answer any questions about one single Supreme Court decisions, your lack of world geography was appalling and you couldn't even name a single piece of your reading material.

But before I forget, our resident expert on politics, NeoCon, says she was a well qualified candidate for such a high office. lol!

Sadly, Sara continues to be a walking punch line. Her pathetic attempts to stay in the limelight by giving interviews, and doing things like contacting People magazine with baby news and to broker top dollars for her grandchild's pictures appear to be rather lame attempt to keep her rapidly fading star alive. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 10:38 AM:

" -Maybe I DO need to start calling you Stooges "Libtards". Whadda ya think Harry Larry?

You might as well, that's what you called people who didn't agree with you when you posted as Doh.

Besides that it would be less confusing for you, and we all know how confused you get, don't we? You know the 6000 year claim and all.

And speaking of your weird beliefs, I see you're still trying to get out of your original claim that the earth is only 6000 years old. Does your sweeti....I mean buddy Vanutty, know about this? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:03 AM:

" Your logic is about as confusing as your 6000 year old earth belief, Blowdog. Why should I be bitter, my candidate won, yours lost. That would seem to make me the winner and you the loser. hee hee

And oh yeah, do you still believe, as Sara Palin does, that man walked the earth at the same time as dinosaurs? Based on your loony ideas that the earth is only 6000 years old, I have to conclude that you believe that too. lol... Care to clarify, or are you going to continue to hide behind your phony denials? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:10 AM:

" And I forgot to mention this. You may be in trouble. I heard the paper was going to incorporate a lie detector into this site. Most of us have our BS detectors on alert when reading anything you post, but it appears that it's going to be official soon.

Once he sees the commandment about lying that you break on here regularly, Vanutty will no doubt be feverishly praying for your redemption.

It's amazing what technology is available these days. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:13 AM:

" WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The unemployment rate surged to its highest level in nearly 16 years in December as a deepening year-long recession forced companies to slash payrolls by more than half a million jobs.

And the Bush legacy marches on... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:16 AM:

" ZURICH (Reuters) Swiss wealth manager UBS AG (UBSN.VX) (UBS.N) is closing all the offshore accounts of its U.S. clients, the bank said on Friday, as it comes under pressure from U.S. tax authorities.

The Swiss bank decided in July last year to stop offering offshore accounts to U.S. citizens after it was targeted by a U.S. tax investigation which challenges Switzerland's famous banking secrecy laws.

U.S. prosecutors have alleged UBS helped clients hide $18 billion of untaxed American money in undeclared accounts. This amounts to around $300 million of annual unpaid taxes, the newspaper said.

Oh no...

This is not going to make Dick Cheney very happy. lol! "

The Question wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:44 AM:

" How many Republicans does it take to change a light blub? At least seven.
One to deny that the light bulb needs to be changed. One to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the light bulb needs to be changed. One to say that the deregulated, free-market light bulb will change itself. One to blame Clinton and Obama for burning out the light bulb. One to tell the nations of the world that they are either for changing the light bulb or for darkness. One to give a billion dollar no-bid/cost-plus contract to Halliburton for the new light bulb. And one to arrange a photograph of George W. Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a stepladder under a giant banner that says: "Light Bulb Change Accomplished!" "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:57 AM:

" Well look at that.

I caused a complete meltdown in Harry Larry Potter (The Libtard Stooge)

Six posts in a row, and more lies about me (BDD, his number one hero and obsession).

tsk tsk tsk.

We may have to call for the people in the white suits to come "help" him.

LOL "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 PM:

" How old is the earth, Question Moe?

I don't know definitively, do you?

The current data states 4.5 - 4.6 billion years.

How old do YOU say it is, Question Moe? "

red,white,blue wrote on Jan 9, 2009 12:29 PM:

" BDD: I propose a new syndrome. PDS. Those with BDS can just move right on to the next mental disease only this one will be characterized by hatred of all things Palin which will, of course, include attacks on her children as well. "

Mike P wrote on Jan 9, 2009 1:46 PM:

" Citgo is dropping its low income utility assistance programs, lower oil prices have them facing hard times, back at home base in Venezuela. Add them to hanes and others, I no longer do business with, due to bad or poor taste business practices.

Congress is suing to get the current administrations files held at the white house, before the get trucked off to the national archives.

I think there might be some special prosecutors hired, to bid a later released farewell to some folks parting company. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 1:47 PM:

" red,white,blue wrote on Jan 9, 2009 12:29 PM:

" BDD: I propose a new syndrome. PDS. Those with BDS can just move right on to the next mental disease...............

I find it interesting that you would choose our friend Blowdog to address mental health issues with, granny.

Several of us have trying to get him to seek professional help for years, perhaps he will listen to a fellow right wing wack....uh.. sorry... make that a fellow Republican.

You do know that he's fixated on the idea that the earth is only 6000 years old, don't you?

He's been thinking that way ever since Palin made the announcement that she believed that man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 2:04 PM:

" Hey granny, I never saw anything on this site about her kids, well except for a comment or two about her amoral daughter, you know the unmarried on one who dropped out of high school to have another kid and yet she claims is not a high school drop out (that sort of sounds like Blowdog logic to me).

Speaking of that, I'll bet it takes as long for her to finally get married as it appears it's going to take Cheney to follow thorough with his promise to donate his Halliburton stock options (7 plus years and running now).

One thing for sure, with the future mother-in-law in jail for meth manufacture and selling drugs, there will have to be another delay. lol...

Perhaps they will get married in the jail and Sarah can sell the pictures to People magazine.

How about that idea, granny? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 2:24 PM:

" (RWB wrote - I propose a new syndrome. PDS.)

LOL

I like it RWB. It's the natural progression for their open-minded, compassionate, Liberal PMS.

hee hee hee "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 2:39 PM:

" Oh dear oh dear oh dear,

Harry Larry is now prattling on about dog blowing, and grannies, and obsessive blatant lies about my view on the age of this planet,(I just exposed that lie of yours a few posts ago, Harry Larry) and now his new obsession with Palin and dinosaurs.......

*sigh* So sad.

This is what happens when Harry Larry Liar (the little short-bus rider) tries to enter a conversation with the big people.

shhhhhhhhh Harry Larry.

Go back to sleep now Forrest Harry Gump.

It will all be better in the morning. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 9, 2009 3:07 PM:

" And I'll for forgive you, for violating my request restriction, as I guess you didn't know that your mentor Rupert Murdoch bought the WSJ. I would have thought the Obama bashing was a dead giveaway. lol... "
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I guess I did not know there was a restriction there HP. I peruse (darnit, thar's a nuther one a 'em big 'ol words I use) several on-line news sources so I just answered your question.

No, I knew ol Rupert bought a stake in WSJ, the good capitalist that he is...God bless him.

Boy, as many times as I see you've posted here today, evidently you don't have much else to do!?!?! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 3:47 PM:

" NeoCon- I've caused Harry Larry Gump to have a meltdown today. That's why his postings have been so voluminous, and even MORE insane (who knew that was possible).

LOL "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 3:57 PM:

" Day off, Neo. Glad to see your enjoying my musings. Now how about naming some of those counties. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 4:00 PM:

" " Oh dear oh dear oh dear,

Harry Larry is now prattling on about dog blowing, and grannies, and obsessive blatant lies about my view on the age of this planet,(I just exposed that lie of yours a few posts ago, Harry Larry) and now his new obsession with Palin and dinosaurs.......

*sigh* So sad.

Wow...talk about a meltdown. lol!

Come on now Doh...I mean Blowdog, how old is the earth. Just answer the question and I'll never bring it up again. "

red,white,blue wrote on Jan 9, 2009 4:05 PM:

" The only one I've noticed obsessing over the earth being 6000 years old is you dear Mr. Potter. Over and over and over again but yet, as BDD says, I've never seen any evidence that he ever said that. Kinda like your "I read somewhere" posts that you often use when you can't really back up what you're saying. And yes, neo-con I do wonder at how much time HP seems to have on his hands. Probably sitting in an ivory tower somewhere........or a basement. "

arrass wrote on Jan 9, 2009 6:40 PM:

" " BDD: I propose a new syndrome. PDS. Those with BDS can just move right on to the next mental disease only this one will be characterized by hatred of all things Palin which will, of course, include attacks on her children as well. "

BDS is BS Detection System. What is PDS? "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 9, 2009 7:22 PM:

" So let me get this right Harry Potter....

You have a day off and you spend it blogging all day on the jg-tc blogs?

Think...Think...think... said Pooh Bear...how many adjectives can I use here...?

Ah, but I guess I don't need to say anymore now do I? ;-D "

Cognitus wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:30 PM:

" eugene wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:24 PM:
" No injustice, they will be investigating Obama. Where did he say he left that birth certificate ? Oh that's right he was born in Hawaii.

Eugene is one of those who have been sucked in by the right wing nuts.
Eugene, people have tried to bring this matter to the courts, but the courts have seen through this nonsense and have refused to hear the case. If you've been on line, you've seen a copy of his birth certificate.

Yes, I know. The entire official family of Hawaii knew 40 years ago that this baby would sometime be elected president of the US, and so they all
conspired to create a false birth
certificate.

We always have the nut-cases with us,
and now we've found another one...... "

Cognitus wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Early Bird wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:52 AM:
" George Bush has now proposed to set aside millions of acres of to protect wild life.

Indeed he did. But note that the area is in the middle of nowhere; the water is too deep for oil drilling, and no commercial interest has any use for the area. George chose very carefully. "

Cognitus wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:40 PM:

" Blue Dog:"" It is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons [in Iraq].
-President Bill Clinton July 2003"

Blue Dog then asks what happens to these WMD's.

#1. Note that WE gave Iraq most of those biological and chemical weapons when WE supported Iraq by providing weapons they could use against Iran. Does Blue Dog not remember the picture of Rumstead hugging Saddam.

#2. The term WMD's is usually applied only to nuclear weapons -- though the right wing tries to extend it so far it includes even spitballs. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:41 PM:

" Why Granny, I didn't know you cared.... "

Cognitus wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:56 PM:

" "" Hey granny, I never saw anything on this site about her kids, well except for a comment or two about her amoral daughter, you know the unmarried on one who dropped out of high school to have another kid and yet she claims is not a high school drop out (that sort of sounds like Blowdog logic to me).

Well, Sarah looks on the world differently than the rest of us. After all she was herself pregnant when she was married so??????????????????? why
would she not defend her daughter who followed her exampale. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:07 PM:

" inCognitive prattled -

(#1. Note that WE gave Iraq most of those biological and chemical weapons when WE supported Iraq by providing weapons they could use against Iran. Does Blue Dog not remember the picture of Rumstead hugging Saddam.)

Oh, so you ADMIT that Saddam had them, eh inCognitive. Good. Glad we got that cleared up. Now be a lad and spread the word among the other Libtarded minions.

(#2. The term WMD's is usually applied only to nuclear weapons -- though the right wing tries to extend it so far it includes even spitballs.)

You have GOT to be kidding me.... (giant eyeroll)

Oh. You're serious; only stupid. I see.

From Army-Technology.com

WMD-

Definition:

Weapons of mass destruction are weapons capable of inflicting massive destruction to property and/or population, using chemical, biological or radioactive material. Weapons of Mass Destruction are also known by the abbreviation WMD.

And then there's this:

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." - DEMOCRAT John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - DEMOCRAT Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998 "

The Question wrote on Jan 10, 2009 10:35 AM:

" Bush wants ANOTHER QUARTER TRILLION to hand out to his GOP CRONIES in SECRET just as he crawls away from his disastrous legacy, and the cable news stories are about everything BUT that. Americans are such tools. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 10, 2009 2:30 PM:

" Ahem*

Oh....uhm....Question Moe?

Have you heard this?

Obama has asked to say 'so help me God' at swearing-in

CNN (Jan 9 2009)- President-elect Barack Obama has requested that the words "so help me God" BE ADDED to the end of the oath of office to be administered by Chief Justice John Roberts on Inauguration Day.

That confirmation came in an affidavit filed today by Roberts' court counselor in a pending lawsuit by an atheist opposed to any mention of God in the inaugural ceremonies. Roberts said he would abide by Obamas wishes.

The Constitution has specific language on what has to be said when swearing in the president, but the so help me God phrase has traditionally been added at the end of the required oath, starting with George Washington in 1789.

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Oh poohy! More Atheist heartache for Question Moe!

When will Barry Hussein Obama STOP disappointing his number one little lemming?

ROFLMAO!!!!! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 10, 2009 3:30 PM:

" Hey TQ, your probably right about his cronies getting their hands on some of it. His backers are probably lining up at the white house as we speak. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 10, 2009 4:45 PM:

" I hope they don't make any kind of naval ship for the current moron sitting in the oval office. If they do, lets hope it is a garbage scow; that would be fitting.

This comment was made by an astute blogger on a site regarding the naming of a naval ship after Bush the elder. "

midright wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:08 PM:

" I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this letter. Will have to make up my mind after I finish puking. What a HATER this man is. Not a Bush hugger but the world would certainly be a better place without haters like this. "

TJs Dad wrote on Jan 10, 2009 8:06 PM:

" Mr. McGuire:

One of the many great things about this country is the First Amendment. You have the right, and not the privilege, to behave like a raving loon. You can slander public figures. You can also make unintelligent statements about the jurisdiction of the FBI and CIA. You can give an opinion with no basis. Mission accomplished!

The next time you sit down for your one person pity party and put crayon to paper please consider the following -- how would your buddy Saddam respond to criticism?

You may also want to consider whether government is the answer to any problem. Is giving money to the unwashed masses any better than giving money to dysfunctional businesses? Is government cheese more filling than government pork? Should the $10 hour employees be expected to bail out the $30 hour employees in the automobile industry? Is failure such a bad thing?

Perhaps failure is a learning experience. If a business cannot turn a profit, is it really a business? Does a person have a right to a home he or she cannot afford? Who really needs a new car?

It is easy to blame George The Inarticulate (aka George II, W., and far worse). It is also easy to blame Wall Street. But I got news for you -- if someone is selling that means someone is buying. Further, the annointment of Barry the Kenyan on the 20th will not change anything. The real blame rests with the end consumer.

The lesson from this economic downturn is live within your means. This mess was caused by consumers purchasing on credit homes, cars, atvs, motorcycles, boats, rvs, time shares, and other items they could not afford. Credit became an extension of income. There is no guarantee of overtime. (ask anyone at Donnelleys) There is no guarantee of a job. (ask the former employees at the bankrupt CTM) Spend less than you make; save; budget; and embrace skepticism and pessimism. "

Cognitus wrote on Jan 10, 2009 11:58 PM:

" Techno-lsss:"And I do have a favorite name for G.W. I refer to him as "Mr. President." "
Fortunately you'll have to so address him for only 10 more days.

You are correct in that the CIA is to act on international security.

The "financial security" of the country is not the responsibility of the Secret Service but rather the SEC. The Secret Service may still involve itself with counterfeiting but actual bills of currency have little to do with the financial mess in which we have been left by your "Mr. President". His economic ignorance was revealed on May 5, 2000 when he said, "It's clearly a budget for it's got a lot of numbers in it."
Or when on Aug 30, 2000 he said, "As governor of Texas, I have set high standards for our public schools and I have met those standards." But it has become evident to all of us that he got out even though he flunked English.
Or when in St. Charles, MO on November 2, 2000, "They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program". The Texas jackass was so stupid he didn't even realize Social Security IS a federal program. We should have known then .... could Techno-less have been one of those who, despite these evidences of stupidity, helped to make him "Mr. President". What a sad day. "

The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 10:27 AM:

" "Congress cannot keep writing checks and simply pass IOUs to our children and grandchildren,""says Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. Asks House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio: "How much debt are we going to pile on future generations?"
My. my. After eagerly and greedily helping Bush turn a Clinton budget surplus into a borrow-and-spend binge that has created an $11 TRILLION national debt. the Republicans are suddenly "deficit hawks" again.
Both funny and pathetic. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 11, 2009 11:57 AM:

" I'm sorry, did the Democrats in Congress not go along with Bush as he spent like a drunken Democrat, Question Moe?

Did I miss that, Question Moe? "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 11, 2009 12:51 PM:

" " WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The unemployment rate surged to its highest level in nearly 16 years in December as a deepening year-long recession forced companies to slash payrolls by more than half a million jobs.
And the Bush legacy marches on... "
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Putting all those slacker/loser democrats on the government dole and in the govt. cheese/bread line. "

The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:17 PM:

" Here is Dick Cheney lying about the Iraq invasion on CNN:
BLITZER: So when you launched the war against Saddam Hussein, did you know then that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11?
CHENEY: We did not base going after Saddam Hussein on any connection with 9/11.
Actually, the text of the original 2002 authorization for the war in Iraq included the text, "Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq..." "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:18 PM:

" My. my. After eagerly and greedily helping Bush turn a Clinton budget surplus into a borrow-and-spend binge that has created an $11 TRILLION national debt. the Republicans are suddenly "deficit hawks" again.
Both funny and pathetic. "

I'm with you TQ, and as we get into the Obama administration, my bet is that the GOP folks will all of a sudden get responsible with the tax payers money. After 8 years of acting like drunken sailors on shore leave for the first time in a year, they will suddenly develop a sense of responsibility. lol!

The current regime even spent more more that the budget busting Ronald Reagan did. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:24 PM:

" Once again I have to correct fallacies....
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"After eagerly and greedily helping Bush turn a Clinton budget surplus into a borrow-and-spend binge that has created an $11 TRILLION national debt."
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Ah no...that was Newt Gingrich's "Contract with America" reforms that y'all despised yet Clinton signed into law and took credit for that the brought those '90's budget surpluses.

Remember Congress has "the power of the purse". Congress comes up with the annual budgets that any President signs. Ya know like in Illinois where y'all's been so upset with Blago over not signing budgets, specific budget funding, into law...and now he's partially gonna be impeached over it...

It's been dumocrats in control of the US congress and the budget writing for the past two years....

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But that's okay ya all go ahead and keep taking credit for it 'cause this time republicans (none in power now) , especially conservatives, are gonna sit this one out. We're not gonna "be smart this time" so your side can take the credit.

Napoleon once said to not stop your enemy from when they are screwing up.

We know your "play book" of "tax and spend" and your much better at it than republicans ever were.

So go ahead and run the economy more into the ground. It's all yours. It'll be fun to watch. Where's my popcorn? "

The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:52 PM:

" But war-mongering statements that are blatantly and demonstrably false are not "lies" when Cheney makes them. Remember, Bush, Cheney and the neocons boast that they "create their own reality."
How do you like the reality they've created so far? "

cedric66 wrote on Jan 11, 2009 2:34 PM:

" I am wondering how all you lefty loonies know so much about Fox News. I take it for granted that you watch it all the time. Now is the time to thank all of you for your support. That's why FOX NEWS is number #1 in newscasting. I can't wait for the GLEN BECK show to air. That will give you something else to gripe about. All of you loonies tune in now and you will really see some excellent reporting!!!! "

The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:45 PM:

" "I am wondering how all you lefty loonies know so much about Fox News. I take it for granted that you watch it all the time."
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I don't watch it, but I have it monitored, on the principle of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer. Fox News offers a great preview of what the fascists are planning in the U.S. "

The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:47 PM:

" It's been dumocrats in control of the US congress and the budget writing for the past two years....
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And for the previous six years, your borrow-and-spend-trillions "fiscal conservative" Republicans were in complete control of ALL branches of the government, weren't they, Neo?
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The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:49 PM:

" I'm with you TQ, and as we get into the Obama administration, my bet is that the GOP folks will all of a sudden get responsible with the tax payers money. After 8 years of acting like drunken sailors on shore leave for the first time in a year, they will suddenly develop a sense of responsibility. lol!
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That's right, Harry. Republicans are always responsible, sober spenders just as long as they have been thrown completely out of power. LOL. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:54 PM:

" Members of Al Qaeda WERE in Iraq. Saddam had a working relationship with subsidiary groups of Al Qaeda. These groups shared the very same members as Al Qaeda. Captured Iraqi documents have verified this claim.

But more importantly; WHO MADE THE ORIGINAL CLAIM THAT THERE WAS A CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND AL QAEDA?

BILL CLINTON. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:55 PM:

" I guess it's easier to predict failure for Obama before he even gets started than it is to defend the last 7 years of corruption, malfeasance and daily fiasco's on the part of the Bush administration. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:56 PM:

" Tell me Question Moe;

Why did Bill Clinton (back in the late 90's) make the original claim that Saddam was WORKING with Bin Laden to produce WMD?

Why? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:24 PM:

" Hey TQ, do you remember the joke that had a punch line, hold old blue? I doubt it would clear the monitor, but I often think of it when I read Blows messages on here, and especially when taking his personality deficits into consideration. "

The Question wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:51 PM:

" Hey TQ, do you remember the joke that had a punch line, hold old blue?
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I don't, Harry. And that's puzzling. I certainly should because, according to Doggy Doh, you and I the same person. LOL. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:52 PM:

" cedric66 wrote on Jan 11, 2009 2:34 PM:

" I am wondering how all you lefty loonies know so much about Fox News. I take it for granted that you watch it all the time. Now is the time to thank all of you for your support. That's why FOX NEWS is number #1 in newscasting. I can't wait for the GLEN BECK show to air. That will give you something else to gripe about. All of you loonies tune in now and you will really see some excellent reporting!!!!

A couple of points to make before you get all carried away with your blubbering about Fox, cedric. Fox news is number one in cable news, not all news. Big difference. You might want to check that out, bubba.

Something else to consider is that that they are the only conservative news cable channel, so it only stands to reason that they would be number in viewership when there are several less radical cable stations competing for a share of the market.

And as far as Glen Beck is concerned, good riddance. Let that whining gasbag go over to Fox where he can join in with the rest of his propagandist ilk.

And yeah cedric, I will readily admit to watching Faux...I mean Fox news daily, it's quite entertaining and comical.

My favorite news comedians on Fox are Billo the clown and the nasally cry baby Hannity. Those two are a hoot to watch.

I've really enjoyed watching them make apologies and excuses for Bush and the GOP for the last 7 years. In honor of Bush's war Fox news even calls one of their investment shows "The Cost of Freedom". That's hilarious. I have a feeling all that flag waving and water carrying will end in about 9 days or so. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:02 PM:

" Looks like the short-bus rider, Harry Larry Potty (The Libtard Stooge) just crawled back out from under his rock.

Still having a meltdown, huh Harry Larry? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:11 AM:

" Looks like the short-bus rider, Harry Larry Potty (The Libtard Stooge) just crawled back out from under his rock.

All joking aside, Doh, I would ask you to refrain from using the term, "short bus". I would imagine it is rather hurtful to the families of kids with handicaps. I've had a lot of fun with our ongoing feuding, but in all due respect the use of the term "short bus" is over the line and has no place here. "

The Question wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:43 AM:

" Bush should get extra credit for doubling the national debt because he had to start with the burden of a budget surplus, don't you think, Harry? "

The Question wrote on Jan 12, 2009 8:22 AM:

" According to a report in The Washington Post, Bush "has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades," with slower GDP growth than under any president since Truman. In addition, the number of jobs increased by just 2 percentthe worst showing of any administration since the government began tracking the data seven decades ago.
Overall, a survey of economists and analysis of economic data in The Washington Post finds Bushthe first president to hold an MBAto be the worst economic leader the country has seen in generations.
The unassailable facts about Bush and the Republican Party. "

The Question wrote on Jan 12, 2009 9:28 AM:

" Bill OReilly is excusing the police shooting of an unarmed, already subdued and face-down suspect , a killing that has spawned riots in Oakland, CA.
I'm afraid there are going to be a lot more American citizens dying at the hands of the police state before our current GOP-spawned economic and constitutional troubles are over. And you can be certain Fox News will be cheering every death.
Because Fox News is the Voice of American Fascism. "

The Question wrote on Jan 12, 2009 10:23 AM:

" When Bush was selected to be president in 2001, the federal government had a projected $5.6 trillion, 10-year surplus. By the end of Bush's first year in office, the government had a deficit of $158 billion. At the end of his interminable eight-year term, Bush leaves with a record $1.2 trillion budget deficit and a staggering national debt of nearly $11 trillion.
That's what tax cuts for the rich, no-bid contracts to corporate crooks and drunken-sailor military-industrial complex spending buys you. So much for Republican "economic theory." "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 11:13 AM:

" And speaking of corrupt politicians, Cheney had the following to say recently:

I'm not ready to call this current economic downturn the worst since the great depression.

Translation: I'm waiting for the Obama team to come in before calling it that. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 1:09 PM:

" In the latest edition of the Rupert Murdoch controlled rag, the Weekly Standard, resident Bush sycophant, Fred Barnes blathers on over the successful Bush years. He praises Bush for everything from illegal wiretaps, torture and his and Cheney's acting to secrecy. Funny no mention of Bush's economy. lol! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 12, 2009 1:23 PM:

" (All joking aside, Doh, I would ask you to refrain from using the term, "short bus". I would imagine it is rather hurtful to the families of kids with handicaps. I've had a lot of fun with our ongoing feuding, but in all due respect the use of the term "short bus" is over the line and has no place here.")

As the sibling of a mentally disabled family member, no one can fully understand the prejudices involved more than I.

To that end, you are right Harry Larry, to compare the mentally handicapped to Liberals is TRULY an insult to the handicapped.

I may reconsider it's use. Then again- maybe not.

I will still use the term that YOU introduced to me, Harry Larry- "Libtard".

Since this word clearly denotes Liberalism as the source of the mental handicap- the label stands on its own merit.

Thank you for introducing me to that very appropriate term, Harry Larry Potty (My favorite Libtard Stooge)

;-) "

The Question wrote on Jan 12, 2009 2:38 PM:

" Remember how the Pentagon kept announcing those vast numbers of Iraqi troops who were being trained with American taxpayer billions, yet they somehow failed to materialize? Now we know why.
The Bush Pentagon was just making the numbers up.
According to the latest draft of a 513-page federal history of so-called nation-building in Iraq assembled by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, Colin Powell says the Defense Department just "kept inventing numbers of Iraqi security forces the number would jump 20,000 a week! 'We now have 80,000, we now have 100,000, we now have 120,000.'" "

The Question wrote on Jan 12, 2009 2:59 PM:

" Notice how Sarah Palin keeps popping up in the "news media" even though the election is long over, and she lost?
She won't disappear because the fascists want her front and center as their next hand-picked tool. And they own and operate, among other things, Fox News.
Palin, the uneducated, unqualified loudmouth ignoramus, MUST play the victim. Republicans must always have a bte noire, a childish, fairy-tale monster they can point to. When you're actually working to undermine the interests of the poor and middle class, it's all you can do-- shriek and say, "Look out, forget about all that, the socialist, terrorist, humanist boogeyman is coming to get you and your kids!"
President Obama and a Democratic Congress will make delightful targets for Fox News venom. At last, Fox News will be able to admit that the U.S. is suffering a criminal disaster-- and frame somebody else for their own crimes. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 3:35 PM:

" I may reconsider it's use. Then again- maybe not.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if you did Doh, you've never shown any class on here anyway. Mocking handicapped kids is right up your alley. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 3:48 PM:

" We can only hope that the Repubs are stupid enough to try to run that moron through as president of their party the next go around. I doubt that they will because in reality, I'm sure they still regret putting her in with McCain in the first place. Their defense of her is probably a matter of pride. Only an idiot, with all due respect to my friend NeoCon, would fail to see that she's a unqualified lightweight. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 3:51 PM:

" WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says President George W. Bush will deliver a farewell address to the nation on Thursday night.

This should be carried on the Comedy Central Channel. After all this guy is just a big joke anyway. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 12, 2009 4:03 PM:

" But Harry Larry, I'm not mocking handicapped kids-

I'm mocking YOU.

Their mental handicap is no fault of their own.

YOUR mental handicap (Libtardism) is completely your fault by choice.

See how I had to repeat that point to you TWICE now, Harry?

You just proved my point, Harry Libtard.

tsk tsk tsk

*sad* "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 12, 2009 8:00 PM:

" Here's what the "gun friendly" Illinois democrats are up to in Illinois.

Oh no they won't take your guns...but the sure will keep an eye on what ammunition you buy though won't they? Let alone take it away from you ...

See
http://tinyurl.com/6kflpp
http://tinyurl.com/6egnba
http://tinyurl.com/5n6a4w
http://tinyurl.com/6o4xlp "

The Question wrote on Jan 13, 2009 7:51 AM:

" An English doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have him looking for work in six weeks."
A German doctor says, "That's nothing. We can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in four weeks."
The Russian doctor says, "In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have them both looking for work in two weeks."
An American doctor from Texas says, "You guys are way behind -- we took a man with no brains out of Texas , put him in the White House for eight years, and now half the country is looking for work." "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 13, 2009 7:56 AM:

" You wouldn't have to be squirming if you hadn't made that insensitive remark in the first place, Bluey.

In case you forgot, short-bus comments were identified and agreed to be off limits month ago on this site. But leave it to you to break that agreement.

I also find it hard to believe that someone with a handicapped family member would be so callous as to use that hateful term on here to describe a fellow poster.

Your squirming over the issue is rather evident. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 13, 2009 9:47 AM:

" Patriotism means unqualified and unwavering love for the nation, which implies not uncritical eagerness to serve, not support for unjust claims, but frank assessment of its vices and sins, and penitence for them

Alexander Solzhenitsyn-

This makes more sense than "my country love it or leave it" sentiment, that seems to be implied on so many of the messages on here. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 13, 2009 10:15 AM:

" Coincidence or Medical Miracle?: The discovery that Bush's resting heart rate is 43 has led some observers to speculate that this is the first time we've had a president with a heart rate that matches his IQ. "

father bob wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:42 AM:

" After numerous rounds of 'We don't even know if Osama bin Laden is still alive', Osama himself decided to send George Bush a letter in his own hand writing to let him know he was still in the game.

Bush opened the letter, and it contained a single line of coded message:

370H-SSV-0773H

Bush was baffled, so he e-mailed it to Condoleezza Rice. Condi and her 2 aides had not a clue either, so they sent it to the FBI.

No one could solve it at the FBI so it went to the CIA, and then to MI6.

Eventually, they asked the Mossad (Israeli intelligence) for help.

Within a minute, Mossad e-mailed the White House with this reply:

'Tell the President he's holding the note upside down. "

father bob wrote on Jan 13, 2009 12:13 PM:

" THREE days after the world learned that $50 billion may have disappeared in Bernie Madoffs Ponzi scheme, The Times led its front page of Dec. 14 with the revelation of another $50 billion rip-off. This time the vanished loot belonged to American taxpayers. That was our collective contribution to the $117 billion spent (as of mid-2008 ) on Iraq reconstruction a sinkhole of corruption, cronyism, incompetence and outright theft that epitomized Bush management at home and abroad.

The source for this news was a near-final draft of an as-yet-unpublished 513-page federal history of this nation-building fiasco. The document was assembled by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction led by a Bush appointee, no less. It pinpoints, among other transgressions, a governmental Ponzi scheme concocted to bamboozle Americans into believing they were accruing steady dividends on their investment in a new Iraq. "

father bob wrote on Jan 13, 2009 12:16 PM:

" Harry Potter wrote on Jan 12, 2009 3:51 PM:
" WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says President George W. Bush will deliver a farewell address to the nation on Thursday night.

This should be carried on the Comedy Central Channel. After all this guy is just a big joke anyway. """""

please, please, please take his secret service detail away! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 13, 2009 10:47 PM:

" Gosh Harry Larry, you certainly got your little short-bus knickers in a gape-mouthed drooling tizzy over me pointing out your Libtardism, didn't ya little fella.

Once again Harry Larry, your mental handicap (Libtardism) is completely your fault by choice.

See how I had to repeat that point to you THREE TIMES now, Harry?

You just proved my point again, Harry Libtard.

Don't worry folks, I'm willing to work with Harry on this. I'm a patient caregiver and I understand this dreaded mental handicap known as LIBTARDATION.

(nodding my head lovingly) "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 14, 2009 9:05 AM:

" For any family out there having a handicapped child riding a special bus, I wish to apologize for the continued callous and crude remarks directed toward me by the shameless BlueDogDemocrat. Obviously he fails to understand how hateful his remarks are to innocent children and their families.

I have no problem with all of his other pet names, but this shows just how low he is willing to go to try to make him self look clever.

Trying to make yourself look clever at the expense of handicapped kids is pathetic, but that's the sort of thing I have come to expect from this cowardly reprobate. "

The Question wrote on Jan 14, 2009 12:14 PM:

" Doggy Doh, please explain to us just how and why you find these people who ride the "short bus" so laughable and contemptible. We'd be interested to know. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM:

" I fully agree Harry.

Trying to make oneself look clever at the expense of handicapped kids is truly pathetic.

So when will you stop doing this, Harry?

Why do you insist on comparing the term you introduced to me: "Libtard" (a mental illness by choice) with those unfortunate victims of unavoidable mental disabilities?

I never though you would use innocent people as "human shields" in your petty battles that you have instigated on these threads, Harry.

I truly thought that even YOU had your limits.

But alas I was wrong about you, Harry.

It's not surprising really; after all, since you support Hamas' use of human shields, why should we be surprised that you would use that same tactic in here? Have you NO shame Harry Potter?

Please take this opportunity to come clean and apologize Harry.

Go ahead Harry, do the right thing. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:30 PM:

" Tell use Question Moe,

Why do you insist on defending your short-bus mental disability by choice, by hiding behind children with involuntary dualities?

Why do you Libtards insist on using disabled children as human shields?

I know you admire Hamas, but do you have to copy their techniques?

Tell us Quesion Moe. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:36 PM:

" Question Moe, I'm the sibling of a mentally disabled person.

And as such, I find your comparison of your Liberal Mental Disability (Libtardism) with that of disabled children, to be reprehensible and indefensible.

You, Harry Potter, and father bob, owe this site an apology. "

The Question wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:08 PM:

" Your use of the term "short bus" as an insult is pathetic and troubling, Doh. We all know it. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:50 PM:

" The term "short-bus" is only an insult when referring to those individuals who cannot help their mental disabilities.

However, when the term is in reference to the voluntary mental disability of people of YOUR ilk, then it is completely acceptable.

My only regret is the unfortunate association that the mentally disable may suffer from being compared to a Libtard such as yourself, Question Moe.

So I suggest you stop doing so, Question Moe. That's even below you.

Oh and, your friend Harry Larry Potter introduced me to the term "Libtard", Question Moe.

You might want to reprimand him.

Run along now lad. And try not to trip over your own feet. Mkay? "

father bob wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:55 PM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:36 PM:
"You, Harry Potter, and father bob, owe this site an apology. """""

ROFLMAO!! hey moron!....we weren't the ones making blanket statements about those children...it was YOU, and you owe this forum many more apologies for your complete disregard of those less fortunate who you repeatedly debased and slandered. "

father bob wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:58 PM:

" lets just mark that one up to our own "millennium man" Harry.....he's a clueless moron who thinks the earth is 6000 years old.....and i'm sure he thinks the moon landing and the holocaust were just conspiracies faked on a hollywood set. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:59 PM:

" The Question wrote on Jan 14, 2009 12:14 PM:

" Doggy Doh, please explain to us just how and why you find these people who ride the "short bus" so laughable and contemptible. We'd be interested to know.

Yeah TQ, and he really gave a good answer, huh? Just another example of his ignorant and illogical use of words.

The bottom line is that he got caught with his drawers down over the short bus comment and as always won't admit he was wrong. Lately, most of his posts have been trying to squirm out of it. I don't know about you, but I'm enjoying watching the little weasel squirm, sort of like his squirming about his ideas on the age of the earth. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 4:45 PM:

" But FatHeadBobby, I wasn't making blanket statements about anyone except you Libtards.

I'm sorry you missed that point.

Oooooh, that's right! I forgot!

You're Libtarded!

See folks. Libtards in action! "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 4:51 PM:

" Still hiding your Libtardism by comparing it to the truly disabled, huh Harry?

Just like your support of Hamas when they use human shields.

Disgraceful, Harry.

But then, you are as you say: "A Libtard."

ROFL! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 14, 2009 6:02 PM:

" Hey Blowdog, your boring and predictable posts...are...making..me..uh...well..sort....of slee....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....

How about posting some more kudos to yourself, those are always fun to read. Or perhaps you could go back to psychoanalysing your fellow posters. That was good for a laugh or two.

Or you could give us a sermon on the earths true age or tell us about your and Palins belief that man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time.

And sorry I missed you at the mall, but I see you bonded out. When's the hearing? I would be happy to be a character witness. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 8:52 PM:

" I'm used to your usual lies Harry, but "psychoanalysing your fellow posters"?

That's a new one.

We've established that you're a hopeless Libtard, but honestly Harry, are you just pulling these lies out of thin air, or are you really this delusional?

Oh and, like I stated last week; I believe the conventional theory that states the Earth is 4.5 - 4.6 billion years old. So we've established another one of your lies, huh Harry Larry PotTard. "

father bob wrote on Jan 14, 2009 8:53 PM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 4:45 PM:
" But FatHeadBobby, I wasn't making blanket statements about anyone except you Libtards."""""

hmmmmm........sounds like a bit of squirming to me. but again that doesn't surprise anyone considering the moronic worm that you are.

oh....yeah i get it....it's like "we don't torture" or WMDs or Sarah's got it all.....blind to reality.

i'm done wasting my breath and time. whail away. i won't reply to you asinine posts....you are a complete retread moron....period "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 14, 2009 9:43 PM:

" Oh really?

Blind to reality, bobby?

And THIS coming from a clown who refuses to denounce the use of human shields by Hamas.

Tell me FatHeadBob- is there ANY Jihadists you DON'T support? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 15, 2009 7:18 AM:

" Oh and, like I stated last week; I believe the conventional theory that states the Earth is 4.5 - 4.6 billion years old. So we've established another one of your lies, huh Harry Larry PotTard. "

Thank you Blowdog, for finally admitted you were wrong about that 6000 year old idea yu trie to promote. Now let's talk about your claim that man and dinosaurs shared the earth at the same time.

Your making progress, little buddy. I just hope Vanutty isn't following this thread. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 15, 2009 7:43 AM:

" I'm used to your usual lies Harry, but "psychoanalysing your fellow posters"?

That's a new one.

Nice try, but no cigar for you, Neotard Doh. lol! "

father bob wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:11 AM:

" the worlds worst people of 2008 continued:

7. Dick Cheney

Charges: Still alive. The amount of medical resources devoted to keeping this black hole of decency operational could have cured cancer by now, but if they had, Cheney would make sure to keep it a secret. Since Watergate, Cheneys been fighting to rehab Nixons image, and he has succeeded in a way, by showing us all just how much worse a presidency can be.

Exhibit A: It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you.

Sentence: Eaten alive by baboons. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 15, 2009 11:19 AM:

" *HEY HARRY-TARD POTTER*

ANOTHER OBAMA FLIP FLOP!

OBAMA: ON SECOND THOUGHT, IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT TO CAPTURE BIN LADEN

Remember at the debate when he vowed, "We will kill Bin Laden, we will crush al-Qaeda"? He's stressed the importance of taking out Osama on other occasions, but never quite as forcefully as that. Why, enter the quote in Google and you'll find it immortalized in the very first hit with an especially fulsome tribute at the Daily Dish.

ANYWAY, CHANGE OF PLANS:

COURIC: "How important do you think it is, Mr. President-elect, to apprehend Osama bin Laden?"

OBAMA: "I think that we have to so weaken his infrastructure that, whether he is technically alive or not, he is so pinned down that he cannot function. My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him. But if we have so tightened the noose that hes in a cave somewhere and cant even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

THAT'S THE EXACT SAME THING THAT BUSH HAS BEEN SAYING AND YOU LIBTARDS HAVE BEEN BEATING HIM OVER THE HEAD WITH IT.

HAHAHAHAAAA!

Goll Harry-tard: WHY IS OBAMA NOT CONCERNED ABOUT CAPTURING BIN LADEN ANYMORE?

LMAO! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 15, 2009 5:56 PM:

" Paul Pelosi, Nancy 's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock. In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del Monte would not have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monte products less expensive than their competition's.

Sorry Dotty, but that's another Internet rumor about Pelosi that's been disproved by Fact Check.com

You might want to consider checking things out before you post misinformation on here and put your foot in your mouth again.

And you might want to do a little research as to how bills actually get passed too.

You must get your information from the same place old big mouth Blowdog does. lol... "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:16 PM:

" Gee Harry-tard,

I noticed you didn't want to address Obama's sudden lack of concern about Bin Laden.

I remember you had one of the biggest mouths on this site when it came to lambasting Bush over that very same statement.

I thought you just said that you wouldn't hesitate to criticize Obama?

What's wrong Harry-tard?

Hypocrisy got yer tongue?

LOL "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 16, 2009 8:17 AM:

" Judging from the comments from the right side, one would think that Bush had a tremendously successful 8 years and that he left the country in great shape. They must have gotten a copy of the RNC talking points memo. lol! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 16, 2009 9:08 AM:

" Despite record low job approval ratings, most Americans think George W. Bush is a good person. And as he prepares to leave the presidency, more than twice as many people think history will be cruel to Bush as think history will be kind.

About the best one news outlet can come up with is, he's a good guy. Absolutely pathetic.

Wow, talk about trying to put a positive spin on the Bush regime! Oh yeah, in case you didn't guess it, this comes from the RNC news channel.

Bye bye Bushie! Go on back to Texas, I hear the Bin Laden family is wanting to invest in one of your oil scams again. "

father bob wrote on Jan 16, 2009 10:47 AM:

" a good guy????.....does he buy a lot of drinks? "

injustice85 wrote on Jan 17, 2009 11:33 AM:

" judging by the number of comments I'm sure everyone is off subject by now but...yes he should be investigated, why not? Does anyone here feel Bush to be above the law? Blagojevich was investigated, Joe Schmoe gets investigated, neither of them holds as much power as the pres therefore shouldn't we want to investigate more? it couldn't hurt right? if he is innocent then hooray what does anyone have to worry about? "