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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:50 PM CST
Rose: Guv's legal woes costing taxpayers millions
Area rep, a member of impeachment committee, says panel looking 'at the totality of the circumstances'



MATTOON — Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s legal problems are costing the state millions, while the governor retains opportunities to exert the power he still has — like his appointment Tuesday of the former Illinois attorney general to fill President-elect Barack Obama’s vacant U.S. Senate seat.

But the House panel investigating Blagojevich’s alleged misdeeds is moving as fast as it can and wants to collect the “best evidence” before it recommends whether to impeach Blagojevich, one of the committee’s members said Tuesday.

Rep. Chapin Rose, R-Mahomet, said the 21-member panel is willing to wait on issuing its findings until a court decides whether to release audio from some of the wiretaps that led to Blagojevich’s arrest Dec 9. However, lawmakers have a case against the governor without the actual recordings, Rose added.

“I don’t necessarily think we need it,” he said. “We are (looking) at the totality of the circumstances and not just an individual problem.

“But you would like to have the original source material ... It’s my opinion we can move forward without it, and if we get it, great.”

He said an expedited but careful investigation is important because Blagojevich’s attorneys have all but promised to sue the state over the impeachment proceedings. “We’re heading for a lawsuit no matter what, (so) to shotgun something in a day or two would only play into” the plans of Blagojevich’s attorneys, Rose said.

Blagojevich has been accused of attempting to barter for Obama’s seat in the U.S. Senate, which the governor has the authority to fill. However, the House impeachment committee is gathering evidence well beyond that which is outlined in the federal charges against the governor, Rose said.

The panel should know by Monday whether it will be granted access to some parts of the original federal

wiretap recordings. The committee has vowed not to seek testimony from certain individuals so as not to interfere with the criminal case by federal authorities.

“The last thing anyone wants is for the U.S. attorney to have his case screwed up by anything we’re doing,” Rose said.

He said the committee members are “the police officers collecting information,” and the panel will make a recommendation to the entire House, which would vote on whether or not to impeach Blagojevich if the process gets to that point. If a measure to impeach did pass by a two-thirds majority in the House, the state Senate would effectively serve as a jury, and ultimately rule on whether to oust Blagojevich from office.

Rose, a former prosecutor who grew up in Charleston, was appointed to the impeachment committee by House Minority Leader Tom Cross.

Rose did not say when he expects the committee to offer its opinion or whether he thinks an impeachment would occur. “I know people want this over yesterday, but it has to be done right and it has to be thorough,” he said.

And despite this need to “cross your t’s and dot your i’s,” Rose said he does not want the panel to drag its feet. On Dec. 16, state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias reported that after Blagojevich’s arrest, creditors lowered the state’s credit rating, which in combination with market volatility drove up the interest on $1.4 billion in bonds issued that day so state vendors could be paid.

With the state’s bond rating downgraded, the interest rate for this debt jumped from an expected 1 percent to more than 4 percent, Rose said. Consequently, the state will pay out almost $27 million in interest over the life of the loan.

According to Rose, that means that the governor’s legal troubles — whether he is found guilty or exonerated — already have cost the state about $21 million in this one instance of bond issues alone.

In addition, Rose on Tuesday said state officials believe this credit downgrade will affect all Illinois debt, although Rose did not know how much extra the state will have to pay.

“Every day that goes by is costing the taxpayers money,” Rose said.

He shared his thoughts with the JG/T-C Editorial Board on the same day that Blagojevich ignored entreaties from U.S. senators and other leaders and made his own appointment for the Obama seat: former Illinois Attorney General Roland Burris.

Rose indicated he was frustrated with legislative leaders for not doing something to prevent Blagojevich from making what U.S. senators already have said would be an unsuccessful appointment. “You don’t address the underlying conduct that got you there in the first place,” he said.

Apart from obtaining what it can of the actual secret recordings from federal officials, the House panel has essentially concluded its gathering of evidence, Rose said, noting he is waiting on a written opinion from Blagojevich attorneys about whether the governor considers the cost of the credit downgrading to have an adverse effect on Illinois taxpayers.

The governor’s personal attorneys previously pledged that Blagojevich would step down if his legal problems started harming Illinois residents.

“I think everyone is trying to be expeditious with respect to thoroughness and fairness,” said Rose.

He also said caution is necessary because of the uniqueness of the circumstances. “We’re in uncharted territory,” he said. “We’ve never been down this road.”

Were it to come to impeachment and a trial by the state Senate, Rose said senators would adopt their own rules, which, under the Illinois Constitution, need not follow the same guidelines as criminal or civil courts.

“This is a political process,” said Rose.

Contact Nathaniel West at nwest@jg-tc.com or 238-6860.


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NeoCon Academician wrote on Dec 31, 2008 2:44 AM:

" Dear Rep. Chapin Rose and Senator Righter:

Now that Illinois is the laughing-stock of the nation due to the rampant corruption of Chicago democrat politics and the actions of our DEMOCRAT governor, I would like to ask you to propose a motto change in the assembly for the State of Illinois. It's not like there is anything else constructive going on in the assembly. Instead of of being known at the Land of Lincoln I propose the following mottos for the state:

11) Illinois - "The Corrupt Governor State"
10) Illinois - "The State of Perpetual Disarray"
9) Illinois - "One Big City and the Rest are Hillbilly's"
8) Illinois - "The Pay-to-Play State"
7) Illinois - "The Backroom Deal State"
6) Illinois - "The State of Contempt"
5) Illinois - "The State of Corruption"
4) Illinois - "The State of Denial"
3) Illinois - "The State of Chaos"
2) Illinois - "The State of Confusion"

and my number one recommendation for a new motto for the state, considering what Illinois used to be known as.....

1) Illinois - "The Sucker State"

Sincerely,

NeoCon
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Dear bloggers please feel free to add to this list of proposed motto changes for the state! "

Dally wrote on Dec 31, 2008 6:35 AM:

" Chapin Rose is nothing but a yes man for the Repubs. CHERUB! "

Tom Andres wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:08 AM:

" What a great way to end your year, Dally. Hide in the dark behind your moniker and cast stones at a gentleman who is fighting for you, trying to right the wrongs. "

SSFAN wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:12 AM:

" Now that Illinois is the laughing-stock of the nation due to the rampant corruption of Chicago democrat politics and the actions of our DEMOCRAT governor.

And how did Republican Governor George Ryan do in office? "

Rotty wrote on Dec 31, 2008 9:46 AM:

" 12)Illinois - The State with 2 States. "

HeinekenMan wrote on Dec 31, 2008 11:12 AM:

" It's not just Illinois. Most Illinoisans have simply forgotten about the other scandals.

For example, (from Wikipedia):

* Lawyergate" -[3] the Bush administration firing without explanation of a number of Republican federal prosecutors which he himself had appointed. It is alleged they were fired for prosecuting Republicans and not prosecuting Democrats. As congressional hearings were called, a number of senior officials cited executive privilege and resigned rather than testify under oath, including:

1. Monica Goodling (R) White House Liaison
2. Michael A. Battle (R) Director of Executive Office of US Attorneys
3. Bradley Scholzman (R) Director of Executive Office of US Attorneys who replaced Battle
4. Michael Elston (R) Chief of Staff to Paul McNulty
5. Paul McNulty (R) Deputy Attorney General
6. Kyle Sampson (R) Chief of Staff to Alberto Gonzales
7. Alberto Gonzales (R) Attorney General
8. Joshua Bolten Deputy Chief of Staff to the President, found in Contempt of Congress
9. Sarah Taylor (R) Assistant to Karl Rove
10. Karl Rove (R) Assistant to the President
11. Harriet Miers (R) Legal Counsel to the President, found in Contempt of Congress

Plus, there's the Jack Abramoff scandal, which involved two Republican U.S. senators, a former Congressman and more than a dozen other high-ranking officials, including a half-dozen who were charged with crimes. The Republican Congressman from my district in Florida was defeated in November based largely on his ties to Abramoff.

Then there's the Plame mess.

In Congress, we have a host of scoundrels.

Ted Stevens was found guilty of bribery (seven counts!)

New York Congressman Rangel was accused of some income tax evasion (wasn't found guilty, a big difference. But still).

Arizona Congressman Rick Renzi pleaded guilty to some serious stuff.

There's California Republican Congressman Duke Cunningham, who is serving prison time now for fraud, tax evasion and bribery.

There's Louisiana Democratic Congressman William Jefferson, who was convicted of bribery charges.

There's South Dakota Republican Bill Janklow, who was convicted of second-degree manslaughter for running a stop sign and killing someone.

There's Democratic former Congressman Jim Traficant, who was sentenced to prison for corruption.

That's just in the past eight years, and that's just national stuff. Imagine how many more deals go on at the state level, and many of those are ongoing and might never be uncovered. Instead of belly-aching about how this reflects on Illinois, look at the positive side. We caught the guy. It could have been a lot worse if he had gone on doing these things.

Political corruption is widespread in both parties and at all levels. "

Bradley Bircher wrote on Dec 31, 2008 11:20 AM:

" I have known Chapin for a number of years. We were in school together. I voted for him in both elections and fully support him. It's about time we have someone who is willing to fight for us and try to do the wright thing. As time goes by I would hope that others decide to step up and do the right thing like he has. He would have my entire family support him for a run as our governor and I hope that when the time is right he runs. It's about time that the country learns that Illinois is a state consisting of more then just Chicago. We should be thanking Chapin for his hard work, not hounding him. "

father bob wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:09 PM:

" Tom Andres wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:08 AM:
" What a great way to end your year, Dally. Hide in the dark behind your moniker""""

andres...you and phony jon vendetta are the only ones who seem to mind people using a screen name.

did it ever occur to you that people (and there are a ton of nuts walking around) can do a white-pages search of your name, find your address, phone number as well as a map to your home?? "

even steven wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:21 PM:

" Illinois... The "Our Governors Make Our License Plates" State "

Raptor wrote on Dec 31, 2008 3:05 PM:

" Chapin is certainly a very popular Representative. And he is doing a good job for us.

The part of the article that is most interesting is the part about the interest rate being driven up.

Blago was merely political cover for the increase in the rate of interest for our bonds.

If we weren't upside down on our budget, the rate wouldn't have changed because of our Governors problem.

Good try on placing the blame for that one on Blago.

We must get our fiscal house in order regardless of who is Governor. "

johnhkennedy wrote on Dec 31, 2008 3:29 PM:

" The Illinois Legislature is in serious danger of being out foxed by Blagojevich.

The Illinois House Needs To Immediately Move To Have The Entire House Vote On Impeachment, Then Do The Same In The Illinois Senate, Quickly.

The reasons for which Blago should be impeached are very well known.

Impeachment does not require the same type of iron clad evidence that a criminal trial requires.

The Legislature already knows everything about Blago it needs to know.

Impeachment is a political judgment that someone is unfit to continue in office.
It is that simple.

The Full Illinois House Needs to Vote Today on Impeachment AND THEN: Call For A SPECIAL ELECTION "

ak927 wrote on Dec 31, 2008 4:42 PM:

" We are very fortunate to have Chapin as our Representative. Chapin has stepped up to the plate on these impeachment hearings and has stood firm that a change in leadership is need in the state of Illinois. I have personally contacted Chapin Rose's office and let him know that I am in full support of the fastest and most economical way to remove the govenor. Even though I did not get to Chapin myself and I had to speak to a staffer I know that my message was heard along with many other messages that I have left him in the past in regards to education. Chapin Rose represents us well in both good and bad times in the state of Illinois. If you have a strong opinion on how Chapin should better handle this horrific situation our wonderful govenor has put us in I urge you to do like me and contact his office so that he can hear your opinion first hand. I for one thank Chapin for his wonderful representation. "

Mike P wrote on Dec 31, 2008 6:33 PM:

" At least we can all rest assured, once this sudden surprize of a corruption issue is in our wake, there will be no more lingering excuses to hide behind. We should have legislation flowing, a balanced budget, and probably a constitutional amendment, or a few of them, way before the spring session is another session of bonus paid summer session. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:36 PM:

" www.HowObamaGotElected.com

Well...it just speaks for itself.... "

85CHSGrad wrote on Jan 1, 2009 10:57 AM:

" Chapin the Cherub...lol "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 1, 2009 1:33 PM:

" NeoCon Academician wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:36 PM:

" www.HowObamaGotElected.com

Well...it just speaks for itself.... "

---------------

This one is even below the gutter scraping standards of your buddy, the bottom feeder, Bluey. lol!

Come on Neo. Is this supposed to prove anything? I guess you haven't seen the videos of the mind dead Repubs slobbering all over the moronic Palin comments at her rallies, huh?

You might want to check out some of the YouTube stuff on your hero, Bush too.

Somehow old Sara(h) managed to get some on your side all worked up with her nonsense. You betcha...wink wink... "

techno-less wrote on Jan 2, 2009 7:11 AM:

" I vote for yours, even steven.

Might I suggest a rewrite of the part of the constitution delineating the qualifications for governor to include "must be able to operate metal presses in preparation for post-office service"?

And dare I to suggest that the delay in any formal proceedings might be due to the need to interview witnesses who are now finally coming forward after years of being afraid to talk? We will learn what we can learn when they are able to release it.

In the mean time, I have a message for Roddy:

Na na na na, na na na na, hey, hey, hey.... GOODBYE! "

Techno-less wrote on Jan 2, 2009 7:47 AM:

" Whoaa, there, Father Bob. Reins pulled. That implied threat of an address is a little out of bounds, even for you. You may not be planning an unexpected visit, but don't give ideas to the nuts. They might think that you are in favor of it and go for broke. I understand that you are trying to give them a fair warning, but nut jobs always look for ways to impress their role models.

Mr.s Andres, Venatta, and (dare I mention her) Shumphries do make issue of others choosing to be anonymous. They need to lighten up as well. People have a right to remain nameless, and this does not make their opinions any less valid. Besides, I seem to racall at least one of these complaining about people showing up at her home for mischevious reasons (real or imagined). That is one of the prices paid for making oneself a public standout. If one doesn't ask for attention, one usually doesn't receive it.

It is simple enough to say "due to the nature of the nut jobs both out there as well as those using this posting (who seem, for some reason, to keep trying to find out who we are), I prefer to ensure the safety of my home and family by not providing clues as to how I could be tracked down. Besides, I hate junk mail."

Succinct, to the point, and non-suggestive to anyone. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Jan 2, 2009 9:13 AM:

" Rose knows what woes Blago's crimes and impeachment costs pose! "

father bob wrote on Jan 2, 2009 10:09 AM:

" Techno-less wrote on Jan 2, 2009 7:47 AM:
" Whoaa, there, Father Bob. Reins pulled. That implied threat of an address is a little out of bounds, even for you. You may not be planning an unexpected visit, but don't give ideas to the nuts.""""

you need not be the judge of my post, and it was anything but a threat. it was stating the obvious that, for some reason, seems to escape those who post their names and yet bash other for "hiding" behind a screen name. they're always asking "why" or debasing someone who uses a screen name......now they know the main reason. "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 2, 2009 1:21 PM:

" Hey, Harry Larry Potter (my favorite Liberal Stooge)

I never did get your answers to this growing list of questions:


Is Obama going to keep troops in Iraq?

Is Obama not going to tax the windfall profits on Big Oil?

Does Obama support warrant less wire tapping?

Does Obama now admit that Iran is a serious nuclear threat?

Did Obama lie during the campaign when he said Iran DID NOT present a threat?

Did Obama just make hypocrites and fools out of his little anti-war lemming followers by announcing he would nuke Iran if they nuked Israel?

Did Obama go back on his word of "Outside Washington Politics" and "Hope and Change" when he filled the majority of his Admin with former Clintonites?


Let me know, Harry Larry, when you're ready to man-up little fella.

I understand how difficult these questions are for a little Liberal troglodyte Messiah-worshiper like you Harry Larry.

But you can't run from this forever. You see, I've got an ace up my sleeve:

Your personality = a predictable combination of terminal big-mouth disease, coupled with painful amounts of ignorance and obliviousness, all wrapped up in a cute little snotty juvenile ego.

Now let's see ya ignore that, Stoogie.

ROFLMAO! "

father bob wrote on Jan 2, 2009 2:18 PM:

" BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 2, 2009 1:21 PM:
" I never did get your answers to this growing list of questions:"""""


HP did you ever notice when questioned Blowdogdemocrat never answers, just sidesteps and changes direction? then he wonders why no one takes him seriously when he poses a question. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:42 PM:

" Yeah, I noticed that too fb. But ever since he started claiming the earth is only 6000 years old, I've put him in the wacko catagoy along with Vanutty, and don't give anything he has to say much credibility. lol!

Did you notice that even Neo is running interference for him now. Guess Neo figured his little wimpy buddy needs the help. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 2, 2009 6:26 PM:

" Let me know, Harry Larry, when you're ready to man-up little fella.

I understand how difficult these questions are for a little Liberal troglodyte Messiah-worshiper like you Harry Larry.

But you can't run from this forever. You see, I've got an ace up my sleeve:

Your personality = a predictable combination of terminal big-mouth disease, coupled with painful amounts of ignorance and obliviousness, all wrapped up in a cute little snotty juvenile ego.

Now let's see ya ignore that, Stoogie.

ROFLMAO! "

----------------------

There you go folks, another example of someone who claims to to live the life of a good Christian. Check out his sanctimonious remarks over on the religious threads.

And to think just the other day he was claiming the earth was only 6000 years old.

And the reason for the new name (Harry Larry) was because he got so flustered a few days ago, he accidently called me Larry, so now he has to keep it up to try to hide his frustrations. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 2, 2009 7:58 PM:

" BlowDogDemocrat? I like it. I suspect it's pretty accurate in more ways than one too. LOL!

An equally accurate name for him might be BlueDodgeDemocrat too. (considering how he refuses to ever answer any questions put to him)

Or how about the 6000 year old man? "

medic57 wrote on Jan 2, 2009 9:10 PM:

" How Obama Got Elected?

He got more votes than McCain. "

gringa wrote on Jan 2, 2009 10:09 PM:

" For your edification, Harry, fb, et al:

Obama the Magic Negro-Gate
Larry Elder
Thursday, January 01, 2009

This is how the whole thing started.

David Ehrenstein, a writer who happens to be black and liberal, wrote an opinion piece in March 2007 in the Los Angeles Times called "Obama the 'Magic Negro.'"

He argued that whites, according to sociologists, stereotype blacks as "dangerous." But whites consider Obama accessible, likeable and "benign." This, according to Ehrenstein, explains Obama's "crossover" appeal.

The article insults a) Obama, by virtually ignoring his effectiveness as a candidate, b) whites, by accusing them of voting for Obama merely to assuage their own guilt, and c) Sidney Poitier, the brilliant, groundbreaking actor, for ascribing his success to whites who find him safe and non-threatening.

The article produced virtually no outcry.

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh then aired a song parody --set to the music of "Puff the Magic Dragon" -- called "Barack the Magic Negro." Referring to the L.A. Times article, an Al Sharpton-like "singer" called Obama inauthentically black. Why, complained the singer, should white folks vote for Obama rather than a true black man "from the hood" like -- me.

Chip Saltsman, a candidate for chairman of the Republican National Committee, sent the song on a CD with 40 other songs, in a Christmas mailer to committee members. Doesn't the mailer, asked several cable news programs, expose the Republicans -- yet again -- for their tone deafness on the issue of race? CNN host Anderson Cooper asked about the term "Negro." Isn't it pejorative?

Never mind the parody actually satirized Al Sharpton. The song implies that Sharpton hoped against an Obama victory, for it crushes Sharpton's argument about America's alleged institutional racism, a force so potent in a country so racist that Obama could not win. An Obama win threatens to reduce the significance of Sharpton-like black leaders. And never mind a black liberal -- who started the whole thing -- called Obama a "Negro."

When will the GOP -- on the issue of race -- go on the offense?

After all, for 100 years, the Democratic Party showed its tone deafness to the rights of blacks. Democrats opposed the 13th Amendment (freeing the slaves), the 14th Amendment (making ex-slaves citizens) and the 15th Amendment (that, on paper at least, gave blacks the right to vote). Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan -- some even call it the "terrorist wing of the Democratic Party." And a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Alabama Gov. George "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" Wallace was a Democrat. Georgia Gov. Lester Maddox, who as a restaurateur, left pick handles hanging on the walls to provide customers recourse in the event an uppity black tried to enter his restaurant. He was a Democrat. Arkansas Gov. Orville Faubus attempted, in 1957, to prevent the integration of Little Rock High School. He was a Democrat. Bull Connor, the commissioner of public safety for Birmingham, Ala., turned water hoses and dogs on civil rights activists. He was a Democrat.

But what about the infamous Republican Southern strategy?

The co-author of the strategy, Pat Buchanan, wrote in 2002: "Richard Nixon kicked off his historic comeback in 1966 with a column on the South (by this writer) that declared we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the [Democratic] 'party of Maddox and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.'"

Today it's Democrats who blatantly use the race card to malign Republicans as a collection of bigots. Yet it's Republicans who support school choice and private Social Security savings accounts -- both of which disproportionately help blacks.

Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Democrat Charlie Rangel, said of Republicans, "It's not 'spic' or 'n-----' anymore. They say 'let's cut taxes.'" Rangel, in an attack on Bush, called him "our Bull Connor." Donna Brazile, then Al Gore's campaign manager, called Republicans "white boys," and said, "A white-boy attitude is 'I must exclude, denigrate and leave behind.'"

Hillary Clinton, before a group of blacks, condemned the then-Republican-controlled Congress: "When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about." Then-candidate and now Democratic Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill said of George Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina, "George Bush let people die on rooftops in New Orleans because they were poor and because they were black." In a Katrina hearing, Democrat Barney Frank accused Bush of intentionally responding sluggishly. Why? Katrina would induce blacks to leave Louisiana, making it a more solidly Republican red state -- a Bush scheme that Frank called "ethnic cleansing by inaction."

Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean recently referred to the Republican Party as the "white party." The 35 percent of Asians and 31 percent of Hispanics who voted Republican apparently don't count.

So who should apologize to whom? "

BlueDogDemocrat wrote on Jan 2, 2009 11:38 PM:

" Oh but Harry Larry, I never made the claim that the earth is 6000 years old.

You're simply lying about that, aren't you Harry Larry.

But of course, if your telling the truth that I made that claim,

then cite it.

Tell us where we can find it.

Show us all when and where I made the statement that the earth is 6000 years old.

But you can't, can you, Harry Larry.

Because you made that entire story up, didn't you.

ROFL!

Hey! I think I'll add that to your list of questions!

LOL!

Now then Harry Larry about that BIG BOUNCY GROWING LIST OF QUESTIONS that your too scare to answer.......... "

eugene wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:20 PM:

" Come on Potter, lets see your answers, you Obama backer you. Come on now you rascal !!! "

 


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