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Friday, November 14, 2008 9:29 PM CST
OUR VIEW: Job gains, losses affect us all



The closings of two manufacturing facilities recently are a blow to the Mattoon-Charleston area economy.

The Casey Tool and Machine facility in Charleston and NCI Building Systems plant in Mattoon recently shut their doors.

The action puts an even 100 people out of work — 58 at CTM and 42 at NCI.

The national economy has been foundering for several months and these two plant closings are the most recent significant signs that the sluggish economy has impacted Coles County.

The area has had some good news in the form of proposed housing developments. But it is tough to replace manufacturing jobs.

A longtime economic development formula has calculated that for every manufacturing job, several more jobs are created.

The 100 manufacturing jobs create an additional 300 to 400 other jobs in the community.

They enable the opening of several new businesses and services, which inject additional energy into the local economy.

Those additional jobs can be in health care, retail, restaurants and others.

Does the loss of these 100 manufacturing jobs mean that 300-400 other people currently working in the community can expect to be affected in the coming months?

It is hard to say. But there is no doubt that the loss of those 100 jobs will impact the community.

NCI has been in Mattoon for 17 years. The Houston-based firm manufactured metal components for buildings before it closed earlier this month.

CTM is based in Casey. It has a plant in that Clark County community, as well as in Arizona and Mexico.

CTM manufactures light fixtures for industrial, commercial, residential and emergency use.

CTM has operated a facility in Charleston for almost 10 years. CTM owner Jim Yates purchased the former TruServ distribution center on north Illinois Route 130 in 1998.

CTM has filed for bankruptcy protection with a plan to restructure the business. While the Charleston facility is not expected to re-open, CTM officials will work to keep the Casey plant in operation.

City officials in Mattoon and Charleston, as well as Coles Together, will work to try to bring new businesses to those now-vacant production sites.

Jobs are hard to come by, but this week, a couple of projects bring the promise of some construction jobs for major housing developments.

In Mattoon, Capstone Development Group of St. Louis wants to build Savannah Farms, a complex of three-bedroom homes, on the south side of the city.

And Villas of the Prairie, an independent senior living community, would offer approximately 80 condominiums, with a dining center and other amenities. That project would be located near the new LifeSpan Center and Sarah Bush Lincoln Health Center.

Both projects bring some optimism along with the disappointment of the two plant closings.

But bringing jobs to the community in these rough economic times is going to challenge economic development officials.

As the manufacturing “multiplier” indicates, our economy is intertwined. The increase, and decrease, of 100 jobs will impact us all.

— JG/T-C Editorial Board


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NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 15, 2008 12:20 PM:

" It's a shame that Casey Tool and Machine facility in Charleston and NCI Building Systems plant in Mattoon are closing up shop. Hopefully all that were effected by the closings will find suitable employment soon and in the area.

It is sad but it looks like this trend will continue just as others companies have closed up shop in the area.

Until Illinois, the American public and American institutions, both private and public sectors, manufacturing and services industries, and government, starts realizing that we live in a global economy, and we in earnest start trying to compete, the trend of job loss, company closings and our industrial base moving overseas, will continue.

And all of this has happened before.

It happened to Great Britain both at the beginning of the 1st and 2nd Industrial revolutions when an upstart nation, the USA, did-in England's textile industries, and when the USA did-in England's industrial capacity through Ford's mass production principles. It happened in other circumstances to England by India, and it happened to France by England, both centuries ago.

It's happened over and over, again and again at different times, but with similar circumstances, throughout history. Adam Smith noticed it in the 1700's and it's what got him to write, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of The Wealth of Nations.

And the same unfortunate response has occurred over and over again. Jobs move away and then the "offended" country, in feeble attempts to stem the flow "nationalizes" or subsidizes and protects its key "offended" sectors. And with every time, companies closed up shop in these "offended" countries it was due to a combination high labor and high tax rates and "hostile" government practices, and sometimes regardless of good efficiency and productivity.

For example, and with an example that hits close to home here for southern Illi-noise, with the farming industry, and due to low profit margins, in the USA. In America in 1900, 1 farmer fed 10 people. Today, 1 farmer "feeds" over 230 people but now the entire "farming" industry is subsidized by the US government. And the ramification is that we now we dump our "extra food" on countries throughout the world de-stabilizing their farming capacity and economy.

And in the mid 1900's when artisan-based car companies in Europe could not compete with the USA's mass production car companies, they nationalized their car companies. Later, in the '70's thru '90's, when those nationalized European car companies still couldn't compete, they got bought up by American car companies real cheap. The American car companies did this to try to stem the tide of upstart Asian car manufacturers.

And not to mention that Detroit automakers are facing this situation now with Japanese companies in the southern part of the US.

So, unless folks in the USA wake up and decide they dont want a lower standard of living (which is already happening) and that they want to compete, considering themselves as entrepreneurs at what they do rather than wanting their jobs protected, the USA will follow the suit of every other country in the world that has gone through the same situation. "

Mama says wrote on Nov 16, 2008 4:28 AM:

" I know a couple and two kids ages 16, and 18 and all four working fastfood
but they are making $1000 week together, and able pay utilities, keep a home, and cuts down on gas getting to work. Instead of crying they did something. Makes me feel proud of them. "

injustice85 wrote on Nov 16, 2008 11:04 AM:

" perhaps coles county should try to get lasting factories that make products that will still be around down the road "

The Question wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:37 AM:

" Just pin all your hopes on FutureDead. That seems to be the "plan. "

father bob wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:13 AM:

" Mama says wrote on Nov 16, 2008 4:28 AM:
" I know a couple and two kids ages 16, and 18 and all four working fastfood
but they are making $1000 week together, and able pay utilities, keep a home, and cuts down on gas getting to work. Instead of crying they did something. Makes me feel proud of them. """"

yeah and before Bush, they'd have made $3000 a week at real jobs with benefits. "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:51 PM:

" father bob said :"yeah and before Bush, they'd have made $3000 a week at real jobs with benefits."

so people working at fast food places don't have REAL jobs? i was under the impression that if your job paid your bills and put food on the table then it was a REAL job? also most (if not all) fast food places DO have benefits available to their employees. many also have scholarships available to the emplyoees to help them further their education. many people in the fast food industry make more than people working outside the industry. and while your manufacturing plant can be shipped to mexico for cheap labor, you're always going to need someone to throw together a big mac for you :) there's something to be said for job security :) "

sapient wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:47 AM:

" FB wrote: yeah and before Bush, they'd have made $3000 a week at real jobs with benefits. "


After the tax cuts of 2003, 8.3 million jobs were created. Of course that was before the Clinton, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd Fannie and Freddie housing fiasco caved in. The initials FB should stand for Full of Bull instead of Father Bob. LOL "

mjgtm wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:14 PM:

" Very good Sapient!!!! I couldn't have sais it better myself. Keep up the good work and hit them hard!!! "

injustice85 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:59 PM:

" sapient wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:47 AM:

" FB wrote: yeah and before Bush, they'd have made $3000 a week at real jobs with benefits. "


After the tax cuts of 2003, 8.3 million jobs were created. Of course that was before the Clinton, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd Fannie and Freddie housing fiasco caved in. The initials FB should stand for Full of Bull instead of Father Bob. LOL "


None of them must have made it to Coles county lol, or the temp services intercepted them "

father bob wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:59 PM:

" After the tax cuts of 2003, 8.3 million jobs were created. """

yeah...join the military, or flip burgers.

and no, i don't classify mcdonalds as a real job. "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:44 PM:

" tell that to the people that have spent 10+ years there fb. what exactly would you call that fb? if it supports your family and pays your bills then it's real job in my book. we can't all be a.....what is it you do again, for a living fb? "

father bob wrote on Nov 18, 2008 5:40 PM:

" pj1983 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:44 PM:
" tell that to the people that have spent 10+ years there fb. """

okay, where are they? "

ed miller wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:43 PM:

" pj1983 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:44 PM:

" .....what is it you do again, for a living fb? "

I think you stumped him. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:08 PM:

" father bob wrote...

"yeah...join the military, or flip burgers.
and no, i don't classify mcdonalds as a real job. "

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When 3.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day and China, Vietnam, Thailand, Mexico, and other manufacturers pay their manufacturing workers anywhere from $0.20 to $3 an hour and India and China pay their like engineers $7000/year compared to our $70,000/ year, WHAT DO YOU CLASSIFY AS REAL JOBS? "

father bob wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:26 PM:

" ed miller wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:43 PM:
" pj1983 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:44 PM:

" .....what is it you do again, for a living fb? "

I think you stumped him. """"
_____________

i work at Hardy's.....ROFLMAO!! "

father bob wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:30 PM:

" ed miller wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:43 PM:
" pj1983 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:44 PM:

" .....what is it you do again, for a living fb? "

I think you stumped him. "
____________

actually i'm retired and work as a consultant on occasion. "

The Question wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:42 AM:

" The fact that the right wingers here now think flipping burgers is a great career is a sad commentary on what has happened to America. "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:38 AM:

" i'm not a right winger, nor did i say it was a "great carreer" it is however a REAL JOB. not everyone who works at mcdonalds (or any fast food) is "flipping burgers" there are many jobs that are available there. including management. and it takes a lot to work in the service industry. they have to put up with rude people (whoever said "the customer is always right" obviously never worked in the service industry) they also work long nights, weekends and holidays. "

medic57 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:23 AM:

" fb

Remember what Judge Smells told his caddy in Caddyshack when the boy was complaining he didn't have enough money to go to college, Well, The world needs ditchdiggers too. Lot of truth in that, if you think Garbage haulers are low class, wait till they go on strike. "

father bob wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:14 AM:

" When 3.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day and China, Vietnam, Thailand, Mexico, and other manufacturers pay their manufacturing workers anywhere from $0.20 to $3 an hour and India and China pay their like engineers $7000/year compared to our $70,000/ year, WHAT DO YOU CLASSIFY AS REAL JOBS? """"
_____________________

i'll bet you shop at wal-mart too....

we have allowed most of our manufacturing jobs to be moved overseas. the reason? corporate greed. the same that's running rampant in the financial industry (look at AIG).

"save money - live better"

sound familiar? wal-mart has singlehandedly corrupted our economy by being the template of corporate manipulation and greed. they have forced more plant closings, bankruptcies and overseas moves than any other single entity in this country's short history.

they don't give you cheap prices, the manufacturers who have been forced to relocate to other parts of the world in order to supply wal-mart and others give you cheap prices.....and at who's cost??? you own, and that of your neighbor or those people in the next town.....all the people who gave up $20 per hour jobs just so they could buy a skillet at wal-mart for $2.00 less.

what about the auto makers who haven't listened to what the public wants and continue to force feed us SUVs and gas guzzlers we don't want and we don't need? a few hundred thousand people will more than likely be walking the streets because of corporate greed. it's always the public who pays the price.

so if you're happy with your "real" $7.00 per hour job with no benefits, i'm happy for ya....carry on "

sapient wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:42 AM:

" Could be worse TQ. Could be a member of the self-proclaimed intellectual elite. "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:04 PM:

" FYI, fb minimum wage is $7.75 (and on the rise) and most service industry jobs pay more than that anyway. AND they provide/make available benefits. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:10 PM:

" The Question wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:42 AM:

" The fact that the right wingers here now think flipping burgers is a great career is a sad commentary on what has happened to America. "

--------------------------

Could it be that most of the trailer park Repugs on here are in fact burger flippers them self, TQ? LOL! "

father bob wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:55 PM:

" pj1983 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:04 PM:
" FYI, fb minimum wage is $7.75 (and on the rise) and most service industry jobs pay more than that anyway. AND they provide/make available benefits. "


glad you're happy with that! congrats! "

Rotty wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:53 PM:

" Personally, I don't care if you're a burger flipper, a President at a College, or you scrub floors with toothbrushes, for a living....

If it makes ends meet, puts food on the table, pays the bills, & your family is happy, you're doing just fine in my opinion, more power to you.

Life is an unknown highway, & we all look at the map differently.

Thank God for that! "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:09 PM:

" FYI (not that it's any of your business) father bob, i don't make minimum wage. there were a few years there in high school and college where i did. i never thought i was too good for it like some people seem to. my whole point was that minimum wage jobs aren't what they used to be. you get more per hour and benefits too.

rotty...you made my point exactly. who cares how much you make per hour as long as it is sufficient for your needs. "

medic57 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:47 PM:

" pj1983

The Illinois minimum wage is $7.50 an hour, the federal minimum wage is $5.85 . "

Rotty wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:27 PM:

" Psst....

It's $7.75, & due to go to $8.00 in July of 2009.

See here:

http://www.state.il.us/Agency/idol/ "

father bob wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:29 PM:

" medic57 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:47 PM:

" pj1983

The Illinois minimum wage is $7.50 an hour, the federal minimum wage is $5.85 . "



i'm glad you're on the payroll...save up for a Wii in afew years. "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:42 AM:

" illinois minimum wage is currently $7.75, and due to raise a quarter in each of the next two summers, stopping at $8.25 in 2010

federal minimum wage is currently $6.55 (it just went up in july) and will go to $7.25 next july

SOURCE: http://tinyurl.com/5aqn5m


and once again father bob, i do not make minimum wage. while i do work in the retail industry, i am management and therefore make well above minimum because i have to deal with rude pig-headed people much like yourself on a daily basis :) "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:11 AM:

" and once again father bob, i do not make minimum wage. while i do work in the retail industry, i am management and therefore make well above minimum because i have to deal with rude pig-headed people much like yourself on a daily basis :) "

------------------

Wow, that's some view of your customers, pj. Perhaps you need to consider switching over to fast food management. All they do is stand around and watch everyone else work. Rarely do you see one of those types actually interacting with a customer, pig-headed or otherwise. LOL!

By the way, you wouldn't happen to work at the Charleston Walmart would you? I've noticed some of those folks come up short on having good customer relation communication skills too. "

father bob wrote on Nov 22, 2008 12:44 PM:

" pj1983 wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:42 AM:
and once again father bob, i do not make minimum wage. while i do work in the retail industry, i am management and therefore make well above minimum because i have to deal with rude pig-headed people much like yourself on a daily basis :) """"

oooooooo.....hit a nerve? LOL, well i can see you're management material!! "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:23 PM:

" Father Bob wrote...

i'll bet you shop at wal-mart too....

-------

The issue is "value" and "value added".

There are a lot of people in the 2nd and 3rd world that would bend over backs to have a job that paid > $7 an hour. They'd live like kings in their countries...

It is difficult for employers to provide jobs to US workers if the worker does not add sufficient value, above their wage/benefits, to the product they sell meeting market demand...

And as I said on another post... if the revenue of your labor (what you bring in $$-wise to whomever you work for) does not exceed the cost of your labor (what it costs to employ you and pay you), your job goes bye-bye...

I pray someday you and your kind will understand this notion... "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:19 AM:

" I pray someday you and your kind will understand this notion... "

-----------------------------

Oh great one, we are indebted to you for showing pity on us, the unwashed masses. "

pj1983 wrote on Nov 23, 2008 5:04 PM:

" no, you didn't hit a nerve, FB. as management, i learn to deal with stubborn people all the time and smile through it all. (there was a smiley at the end of my sentence) i already told you once that i didn't make minimum wage and it just wasn't sinking in.

and no, HP i don't work at walmart, i actually like INTERACTING with my customers and HELPING them. in fact i'm frequently complimented on how helpful and nice i am. (i guess that only works when i'm getting paid to be nice to people) "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 23, 2008 6:03 PM:

" My friend Harry Potter wrote....

"Oh great one, we are indebted to you for showing pity on us, the unwashed masses. "


AAAhhhh...don't mention it...one does what one can...I just help provide "the soap" for what you call unwashed masses. "

Mattooner at Heart wrote on Nov 24, 2008 1:11 PM:

" A couple of things puzzle me on this particular thread and the first one has to do with the article itself. In a very short sentence, the JG assesses the blame for these two businesses leaving as [The] national economy has been foundering for several months and these two plant closings are the most recent significant signs that the sluggish economy has impacted Coles County.

I looked at the NCI web site and read some of their investor information and news releases. NCI has shown sales and operating profits for the first three quarters of this year. Theyll release their fourth quarter results on 12/11 but at least for the first three quarters of 2008, it doesnt look to me like the reason for the NCI closing in Mattoon had much to do with the sluggish economy. NCI isnt closing any other of their operations and if the reason theyre leaving Mattoon is the national economy, doesnt it make sense that at least another part of NCI would be in jeopardy of closing or there would be some better indication that the national economy were indeed a factor?

And the whole Future Gen thing has been a real roller coaster as well with Mattoon first getting it then not getting it, but does anyone think Mattoon getting it and losing it has anything to do with the economy? it doesnt seem to me that the economy was a very big factor in THAT particular decision, either.

It seems to me that the Mattoon area is being somewhat singled out (if you will) to be a target for some cutbacks or shunned (perhaps) from expansion of commerce or just completely ignored for a number of potential industries.

This has nothing to do with the NATIONAL economy because the NATIONAL economy is the NATIONAL economy. Period.

And even if the economy in Mattoon is depressed, doesnt it seem to make sense that a company that would be looking to expand would look for a place with relative proximity to larger cities (Chicago, St. Louis, Champaign, etc.) in an area where their employees could purchase housing at a very reasonable price, where there was a ready pool of people eager to fill manufacturing jobs and an area that would welcome new industry with open arms?????? Mattoon seems to be an ideal place to put new or expanding industry. So whats wrong with this picture?

So Ill pose some questions and take the risk of asking questions that I dont already know the answers to so I can learn something.

Do the city leaders REALLY know why businesses are leaving Mattoon and not speculating or shrugging their shoulders and blaming it on the NATIONAL economy? If they dont know the REAL reasons businesses are leaving Mattoon, why not? Isnt that pretty much one of their responsibilities? If they DO know the reasons businesses are leaving Mattoon, are any of those reasons correctable by the city leaders? If some of the reasons are correctable, are the city leaders correcting them? If theyre not dont they owe it to you to tell you why your home town is becoming the next East-Central-Illinois Ghost Town?

Theres something here that just doesnt make sense to me and if there is someone who can make sense of all this, Ill gladly listen. "

 


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