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Friday, November 7, 2008 5:09 PM CST
Your thoughts on Obama's election

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Barack Obama's victory marks the first time that a minority candidate has been elected president in U.S. history. His campaign resulted in near-record voter turnouts all across the country.

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NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:18 PM:

" I wonder when the congress is going to call for investigations, in earnest, into all the voting irregularities like the 105% voter registration in Indiana. How can you get 105% registration? Oops...looks like ACORN did its job well doesn't it?

Isn't vote subversion like that expected in unstable Asian and African countries? Guess it's okay in the U.S. now too.

Last time democrats moaned about dangling chads now more people vote than can be registered to vote. But I guess it's okay when democrats do it and can get there own elected to the white house and overwhelming majorities in the house and senate...oh and just like in Chicago... and the state of Illinois.

Anybody else see a pattern here?

Looking more and more like communism every minute. "

291953 wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:29 PM:

" As for myself, this is something I have prayed and hoped for since I watched him at the 2004 convention and Kerry went down in flames.

Just to make it offical: the seas will not part; there will be clouds and storms still; gasoline will NOT drop to $1 a gallon and we will not be able to leave Iraq on Jan 21. Having said that, it will be interesting to see what he can do. We've seen what Bush has done.

In closing, it's a new beginning on the horizon. "

injustice85 wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:34 PM:

" This election has restored faith in this country, people all over the country got out and participated and the overwhelming support alone says something about the strength of America's feelings toward the change needed in the world, I for one am looking forward to the future to come and I think we can feel a sense of pride once again "

being me wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:59 PM:

" Obama's victory is a victory for the United States of America. The U.S. overcame a past that was not that great for minorities or women to elect a man from two different races. People want to say a Black man is the President-Elected of the United State of America, but they fail to acknowledge that he is also White.

With all that being said I feel that children will look at Obamas background and realize that they can do anything they put their mind to. Also, we are a part of history which is amazing! "

Johndeerelover wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:34 AM:

" I don't know if America has done the right thing.. I pray they did. It sorta scares me. "

jrhendren wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:36 AM:

" I was not an Obama supporter and am worried about some of his policies. That being said, he is the president elect and I will give our soon to be new president support until he proves himself wrong. We should now put politics behind us, and give him a chance. "

idclaire wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:53 AM:

" I think America did the right thing. We pulled together and we are ready for change in government. Hopefully we stay a nation united in our ideals. We need to give Obama a chance. Change is not going to happen over night. It took the realm of 2 terms of Bush administration and more to get us where we are at right now. Let Obama lead us in the right direction. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:27 AM:

" The Messiah Obama will heal the sick, feed and house the poor, make everyone rich, walk on water, make blind people see, heal leprosy and cancer, end global warming and deforestation, cause the oceans to recede let alone split them as he needs, and end all war and bring about world peace, justice, love, harmony, and understanding.

After hearing and seeing in the media, and reading in the paper about how "great" Obama is over the past two year, and now he's been elected the great messiah, anything less than the above, would be,...well disappointing. But I guess it all has to happen.... since he is the New Messiah...and no matter how contrite he tries to be. "

Becky wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:33 AM:

" President elect Obama's win has many of us excited about the future of our country. He is the right man to represent America to the rest of the world. He speaks of hope, strength and honor instead of war, terrorists and 9-11. I think he will start fighting the terrorists with the aid of the countries where they are and put America back on track as being a beacon of hope to the rest of the world. "

father bob wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:41 AM:

" i truly just wept. and was so filled with emotion, i've been unable to put into words how proud i am of this country.

i think about emmit till, james chaney, andrew goodman, michael schwerner and martin luther king, jr. and how we've evolved for the better. "

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:55 AM:

" I still wonder why he hung out with terrorists and will they have a place in the White house. I wonder why the birth cert. is sealed. I wonder why Christians would vote for him KNOWING he supports abortion and same-sex marriages. I wonder why it would be ok to take money from some, give to others and how this could benefit small business. I wonder what the "change" is really about. I wonder if under 200 days in the Senate qualifies him to be commander of the military..that one really scares me! I wonder why we would create a messiah- type idol to bow down to, when we already have Jesus Christ. I wonder if he is Muslim...sorry...still wonder. I wonder why our enemies across the globe are celebrating. I wonder why the media romanced him and still does. I guess the last thing I wonder is why people who voice any concern and don't embrace him are pounced on in the comments blogs. All in all...I feel like a woman without a country right now! I think I will just go hunt Mickey Mouse with Harry...I think Mickey was at the polling place, so shouldn't be hard to find him. "

Read all over wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:13 AM:

" Re: NeoCon Academician:

Your bitterness and anger are unbecoming. I can see the smoke rising from your head, even from here.

There are some kinds of blindness that no one can cure. "

HeinekenMan wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:58 AM:

" Neocon, facts, big boy. Bring 'em or crawl back under your rock. You bring no facts. Well, you mention 105 percent registration in Indiana? Do you have a source on that? Heck, do you have a brain? "

wazafarmer wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:59 AM:

" A big So What!

Black? 1/2 black! If you'll recall. The nation's 2 leading "poverty pimps"--Jackson and Sharpton--weren't at all receptive to BO in the primaries, if you'll recall.

New direction for the country? Get real. BO is 'just another Democrat'. (McCain is 'just another Republican', also BTW) What has happened is that we've swapped one batch of politicians for another batch of politicians, swapped one bunch of "special interests" for another bunch of "special interests", swapped one set of party agendas for another set of party agendas. The "revolving door" of Washington once again. The Dems of the 90s are still there waiting for 'their turn' to pick up and finish what they started pre-'94 and their GOP counterparts will retreat to K Street lobby firms until the 'door' revolves again in two years when the moderate middle gets its belly full of 1 party government again.

And, from the way Bush-Cheney have so thoroughly crapped their--the GOP (Gouge Ordinary People)--nest, the Dems could have run Donald Duck (surprised they didn't) and won. So Big Whoop!

On a personal basis, BO is a step apart from "just another Democrat" to me......he's 'just another Chicago Democrat'! (Not a flattering description as most downstaters will attest) "

joe hardy wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:41 PM:

" Obviously some racism is acceptable, depending on which side of the coin you are on. "

julio wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:50 PM:

" NeoCon, what's your evalutaion of W's performance in office? I could list all his shortcommings but if you don't see them already you never will. Folks like you are too ignorant to form you own opinion. Therefore I bet you listen to a lot of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh? "

julio wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:54 PM:

" I'm proud to be an American again! ! ! "

father bob wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:55 AM:
I think I will just go hunt Mickey Mouse with Harry...I think Mickey was at the polling place, so shouldn't be hard to find him. """
______________
watch that doorknob.... "

RDCENT wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:47 PM:

" I think that there could be some real positives come out of electing Obama. For example, it clearly shows that there is a majority that feels that race does not matter. This is great news. There is no room for using race preferences or discrimination in elections or employment. Universities, such as EIU, should take the lead in moving this country in transcending race. No longer should they monitor or track race in potential or current employees. "

dj1956 wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:52 PM:

" Illinois bound: You wrote my letter for me. Thanks. The only thing I would add is, can this man even get security clearance since he has been associated with a known terrorist? And why "is" that birth certificate sealed? Could it be he was NOT born in the United States and that would prove it? Odd about grandma dying right before the election too. Was she about to divulge that information??? (Just a thought people...don't get defensive!!)
Also odd is the fact that his buddies...Bill Ayers and Farakan (notice this America hating Muslim who was out of the picture for years, is NOW back in it?)all live in the same neighborhood. My last thoughts on this subject...I hope to God Michelle is at LONG LAST proud of her country!!! All it took was for her husband to be elected President. Good thing the rest of us don't have that opinion and just love and appreciate the fact we were born in the best country in the world.
As for the comment by "Becky"..she seems so concerned that the rest of the world must love us. You know, if the rest of the world were as good and generous to people on this earth as the U.S. is, there would be no world problems!! "

Momma Luda wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:03 PM:

" I am so proud of our young Americans. One - for getting involved, researching the canidates, voting, and wanting to make a difference.
Two - for not inheriting the older generation's ignorance and hate. For looking at the man and his ideals, not color or culture.
Obama is what our nation needs - his energy, his attitude, his compassion, his determination, and his love for this nation.
God has blessed the USA! "

exbricklayer wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:09 PM:

" Illinoisbound wrote "I wonder why we would create a messiah- type idol to bow down to, when we already have Jesus Christ."
Just what has Jesus done for anyone in the last 2,000 years???? At least Obama is a real human not a cartoon character from a fictional book. Also, if GOD loves you so much then why did he allow Obama to beat your savior McBush like a Vietnamese prison guard. "

midright wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:45 PM:

" Some months ago after watching a movie on my DVR I switched back to TV. Whatever channel was on, had a story about the anti-Christ. It was close to the top of the hour so I left the TV alone and read the newspaper. Toward the end of the program the reporter asked the "experts" what the anti-Christ would look like. This drew my attention so I listened in. Would he have hooves and horns? No, he would most likely be a politician. One that was young, dynamic, who's followers actually worshiped him. He would make promises about peace in the world, etc. They went on but I went back to my newspaper. On the news that evening there was a report on obama's "race" speech. As the camera panned the crowd and I saw the look on the faces of his followers, I thought back to the earlier program on the anti-Christ and a cold chill went up my spine. Since then I had kinda forgotten about it, then just a few minutes ago I saw a headline on a news channel that said "Obama: President of the World?" That chill came back. I haven't been to church for a while but maybe it's a good time to get back! Just in case. "

midright wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:53 PM:

" I wrote then I read. After reading Father Bob's "I wept and was so filled with emotion" (and others of same ilk) I felt justified with my concern. His followers truly see him as a Messiah not just another politician with different promises than a rival. "

father bob wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:55 PM:

" dj1956 wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:52 PM:
" Illinois bound: You wrote my letter for me. Thanks."""
_________
another moron heard from. "

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:19 PM:

" now now, father bob...let's be good little boys and girls and not name-call. :) "

291953 wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:26 PM:

" What are we going to do, rehash all of the claims about President Obama for the next 4-8 years? Why is his birth certificate sealed? WHO CARES? It is nobody's concern but his. Why does he pal around with terrorists? By the definition of Bush's Education secretary back in 2002-03, members of the NEA(National Education Association) are terrorists. Any of your friends teachers? YOU are friends with terrorists by Bush's definition.

Get real guys. Even Senator McCain said election night that the people had spoken. He accepted our decision. Time for you to. "

idclaire wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:10 PM:

" Midright,
Serious issues there. When I look at the majority of American people who are united and full of hope on the streets of our great nation celebrating a new government, it gives me chills. Those are people who are confident that we will survive and recover from all that we have endured during the last 8 years. Perhaps when you do go back to church, you can learn how to love instead of how to hate. "

CDB88 wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:30 PM:

" Many people question Obama's experience in politics, which, in their eyes, would mean he is not fit to be the president. However, those people fail to see that he has a strong vision for America. One could have all the experience in the world, but that does not mean they are equipped to be a strong leader. One must have a vision that can take them soaring into the future, Obama has that vision. His vision can take the United States and put it back on its feet to run once again. Those of you who like to participate in the stereotypes, racism, and lies; its time to join the rest of us in the 21st century. Here, we consider everyone equal and have left our ethnocentric views behind. For those of you who are "afraid" of what Obama has planned, then I urge you to finally educate yourself by visiting his website. "

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:32 PM:

" Was wondering when Obama's grandmother's funeral is going to be held and is he going? Doesn't seem to be anything about it...just wondering. She raised him and was the pillar of his family...so...just wondered. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:55 PM:

" HeinekenMan:

When does your ilk ever need "facts", girlfriend?

But since you asked, tear yourself away from your cartoon watching and go wipe the slobber off your mouth, then pour yourself some cool-aid and go check:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081007/NEWS0502/810070368/1304/LOCAL

See http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Claims_Of_Voter_Registration_Fraud_Creep_Up_In_Indiana.html

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081018/NEWS0502/810180457

AND...

Indianapolis/Marion County, a democrat stronghold, had an estimated population of 876,804 in 2007. Of that number 232,607 were below 18 years of age, for a total of 644,197 people in Marion County/Indianapolis 18 or over and thus eligible to vote. (Indiana allows felons to vote as long as they are not incarcerated).

So there was 644,197 people eligible to be registered in the democrat stronghold of Marion County/Indianapolis, and 677,401 people registered. So that means that just Indianapolis alone had 105% of its residents registered to vote (Source, STATSIndiana). "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:06 PM:

" Idclaire wrote:

"you can learn how to love instead of how to hate. "

What a joke...

I guess you can "learn to love" when your candidate gets elected, eh?

And I guess you don't remember Hillary holding up the newspaper reading
"Bush Knew" after 9-11 or the "dubya" comments, and the hanging of Sarah Palin in effigy right before the election and on and on an on from the "peace loving" lefties? And not to mention all the nasty posts put on here by the resident liberals here?

Are you really that oblivious or are you just being hypocritical? "

what? wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:43 PM:

" No more lobbyist working for the government? Scandalous. "

midright wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:50 PM:

" Sorry Idclaire but that intense hate for members of the other party is a democrat thing. I have never witnessed so much political hate in my life as I did the last 8 years. I thought the Republicans did themselves poorly when they went after slick Willy and was rather ashamed of them, but they couldn't hold a candle to the hate the left has had for Republicans. I mostly lurk out here but after reading comments over the many months by folks like The Question, Father Bob, Harry Potter, etc. I realize I would be way out of my league trying to compete with pro's like that. You see I just made an observation in my post, I made no accusations, I displayed no hate, it took you to start the hate rolling. My only accusation is not against obama, he is what he is, a politician I oppose because his beliefs are different than mine--I don't hate him just oppose him, but the accusations are against your ilk who does not see him as a politician but a messiah to be worshiped. obama is not the danger, you are! YOU people are the one's the rest of us needs to fear! "

julio wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:13 PM:

" Hey bud, I, we, put up w/ 8 years of W. When he was elected I wished him well and hoped he was the answer. He wasn't just as I had suspected. "

idclaire wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:27 PM:

" Same here Julio. I had faith in George. I was excited when he was elected and a supporter. He just wasn't a good leader. I, like many others, do not agree with many of his decisions. I do not declare myself as a Democrat or a Republican or any other. Between the 2 candidates that were running this year, I just felt that Obama would be the better leader. He has charisma. He is not a messiah as midright has mentioned. He has the potential to be a great leader. I think that both candidates have the potential to be great leaders. Until they prove otherwise, I am a supporter and am willing to give that chance. Just as I did President Bush. I supported President Bush during the first couple of years in office. Then my views, morals, upbringing,values, etc clashed with his and I am sorry that offends midright. I'm sorry that unwillingness to give someone a chance sounds like hatred to me. I'm sorry that you stereotype people and think that everyone looks to Obama as a messiah. The world is a scary place, and when Americans have hope and joy while others cast stones at them and almost treat them inhumane, it makes the world even scarier. I think that both men would have made great leaders. But face it.....someone had to win and someone had to lose. Now, let's give him a chance and if he proves to be a poor leader, then we can cast the stones. "

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:50 AM:

" Midright...that's what it's all about. Pour on the intimidation and knock all views off here except the few who think they own this corner of the paper. We can say anything we want...as long as it agrees with their views. Plain and simple. If we don't crumble at the way they circle the wagons around a comment to tear it apart, then the name-calling starts. This world is full of more than one view on things, but this group has not figured that out. I would say God bless them, but that would be torn apart. So, hang in there Midright..they show no mercy to any but their own. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:59 AM:

" I have never witnessed so much political hate in my life as I did the last 8 years.

----------------------

Oh really, I guess you haven't been following this site for long then, huh?

The comments directed toward Obama far exceeded anything that has been said about Bush. "

daisy wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:41 AM:

" What a wonderful and hopeful thing that we, as a country, have finally transcended the issue of race. I am proud of us as a people for growing and learning to accept our differences. Now there will be no more need for affirmative action. "

Becky wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:58 AM:

" Boy, I think we may need to get more tin foil shipped to Coles County. It's getting really wierd in here.

Maybe it's the awful water getting to people, huh? "

shumphreys wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:15 AM:

" So midright you just "make observations". The difference between your "observations" and the commentary of the "pros" like father bob, question, harry potter, et.al. is that their comments are usually (not always) based on facts not fantasy/superstitions/fears/hate/idle speculation. The "observation" about the anti-christ is just such hyperbole, the same goes for those comments about the "messiah". The "pros" can separate fact from fantasy. "

drawnevets64 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:19 AM:

" Well well. Here we are FINALLY at the crossroads in American history. we have out first black "American" President? Hail to the chief. I love Amerika. What's wrong with this country? Does anyone remember 09/11/01? Then we go and elect a President who has friends that do the same thing, all be it on a smaller scale. Great job Amerika. One good thing that has come out of this is that racism in Amerika should be silenced. You have what you have worked so hard for years and years to achieve. Congrats on that, But the question i have is, AT WHAT COST? Something to think about huh. Senator Obama has done nothing for us Americans or Illinoians but preach to us how bad America is. His outlook for Amerika is not a good one. Just words?? I think not. This man scares me to death. Not so much me i'm worried for, it's my children and my childrens, children. Senator Obama has family in Africa living in huts on $1 a month, and he does not even care. What does that tell you? All i can say is hide your money and hope for the best. Say bye bye to your 401k and be ready for the worthless unions to drive up the cost of labor. Thus trickling down to the failures of the small businessman. Cahills has gotten ahead of the game. Bill is a smart man and sees whats coming. He is positioning himself. Get ready to install new plugs for you electric cars. Get ready for hairplugs to becme more popular. Wake up and hold on America, we are out for a long ride. Prepare yourself now. God bless you and God bless AMERICA.. Check out marklevin.com well worth your time. "

even steven wrote on Nov 7, 2008 9:28 AM:

" As President, I stongly suspect Obama will move closer to center with his policies. Any lurch too far to the left will leave the Democrats vulnerable in two years and will diminish Obama's chances for a second term. He's a smart guy and knows this. I wish him luck during these tough times and will support him as my President unless he does something idiotic to lose my support. If that happens, then I'll be every bit as respectful to him as the media and some citizens have been to President Bush. "

spanky12 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:07 AM:

" This is to Ex-bricklayer and Fr. Bob and the rest of the extremist left winged political worshippers. Laugh and celebrate now. You need to show a little respect to the facts. You are blind to the truths about obama (notice I did not capitalize his name, he is not my president). This election was bought and railroaded from the beginning. I'm so sick of blacks feeling this was overdo. If you haven't liked the way this country was raised then release your citizenship and go somewhere else. If nothing else Bush protected our country when we needed protection. Short memories are so obvious in this post. You will see a nation fall under the misguided leadership and motives. No one gets a free ride. The fact is most blacks and liberal whites voted for this man to climb on the backs of working class once again. So when your party attempts to reform our constitution and take away my right to bare arms, count on this I will hold on to my guns. Because best believe in the community where obama attempted to be organizer, all the thugs and gangsta's still are. "

~OpenUnateD~ wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:31 AM:

" Here's my problem. I watched Oprah yesterday and Will Smith (and Oprah) were saying how they wept when Obama was announced as the winner. I felt they are making a much bigger deal out of the fact that he's black than the white's are. I could care less if he's black, white or purple. I realize it's a long time coming....but they are actually making the wrong point. Many American's have not seen 'color' for a long time. That day is gone and we live in a land where blacks and women have just as much rights as anyone. Obama's political views are being overlooked. I think its the black's who were Colorblind on this one. Didn't matter what he stood for as long as he was black. Thats just plain stupid!!! "

central il conservative wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:45 AM:

" Just like most other Americans, I'm worried about where our country is going. But was Obama really the best coice? What does anyone know about this man? the things that we all know, weather or not we will admit it, is that he prefers hanging out with questionable people.
Also, are we really ready for the kind of change he wants to impose on us? "From each acording to his ability, to each acording to his need", why does this scare me so much? I don't make $250,000 or $200,000 or whatever the figure may be tommarrow, but if someone works hard for their money why does the government think that they have the ability to get it to the right people better than the one who has earned it. This is a government that set money asside for your retirement, and then dug their own greedy fingers into it, now we won't have ss. around much longer, WHAT IN THE HELL MAKES US THINK THAT THEY WILL DO ANY BETTER SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND TO THE POOR. In most cases when you give the government money it opens the door, and is almost a certainty that corruption will occur. Why don't we say enough is enough. I don't mind paying taxes to support our military, I don't mind paying taxes to build and maintain roads and bridges, and other necessities that we need in this country. It is not my job to come to work to help support other people that choose not to get a job. I know that there are people out there that are doing their best but can't make ends meat. These people need help, not from the government but from churches and the community, and other organazations that are put into place for these people. We are the most generous nation in the world, and I'm proud to be an American, but I'm afraid that the direction that Obama is going to take us is straight to the Soviet Union. "

father bob wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:05 AM:

" central il conservative wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:45 AM:
" Just like most other Americans, I'm worried about where our country is going. But was Obama really the best coice? """

60+% of the population think he was the best choice....so do what i've done of the past 8 years....suffer!! ROFLMAO!! "

CDB88 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:34 AM:

" This is to spanky12:
We dont capitalize Obama's name because he is president, we capitalize it because it is a proper noun... you might know this if you were educated and had common sense. Common sense would also tell you that no one is going to take our guns away... people say that about every democratic candidate yet it has never happened... "

Becky wrote on Nov 7, 2008 12:20 PM:

" "From each acording to his ability, to each acording to his need"

Obama NEVER said that!!! It was a right wing pundit who said it. You all need to calm down! Obama's not a socialist, commie or muslim. He's not going to rob anybody blind. After the major fleecing that we took from Bush, you're now worried about Obama??? I don't get it. None of you are making any sense. Bush DESTROYED our treasury, economy, world standing. Bush advocated TORTURE, MURDER, and preemptive strikes on countries that he might not like! And you people are worried that Obama's going to ruin things? Give me a break! He might not be "the messiah" like you seem to think we think he is but he sure as heck couldn't do ANY WORSE!!! "

Becky wrote on Nov 7, 2008 12:27 PM:

" "It sorta scares me"

So threatening to launch preemptive NUCLEAR strikes agains Iran who hasn't attacked anybody didn't scare you with Russia and China PROMISING to back Iran? This didn't SCARE you....WWW III? And what scares you is that Obama's promised to just replace the taxes that were in place 8 years ago? Hey, a little info for you, we already lived through most of what Obama's plans are and we were prosperous, strong and proud. So, what the heck are you scared of? Stop letting Faux Noise scare the heck out of you. Rovian tactics has you scared. They wanted you that way so they could take even more power away from you. That's tactics straight out of Mein Kampf! But Obama scares you??? Come on now. "

shumphreys wrote on Nov 7, 2008 1:22 PM:

" Becky I think the main issue is that Obama is black and a different kind of Christian (one that respects other religions). I think we are seeing in these posts what happens to people who are raised on a steady diet of fear and hate (Christian fundamentalism). As far as they are concerned He-- has just frozen over and the end is coming. "

exbricklayer wrote on Nov 7, 2008 1:27 PM:

" This is to spanky12;

"notice I did not capitalize his name, he is not my president"

Like it or not, he IS your president.

"If you haven't liked the way this country was raised then release your citizenship and go somewhere else."

You should take your own advice.

"You will see a nation fall under the misguided leadership and motives."

You're seeing it fall right now under george jr.

"No one gets a free ride"

Except corporate america under george jr.

"count on this I will hold on to my guns"

President Obama wants to modify the 2nd ammendment so that there is a minimum IQ requirement. You need to be very afraid. "

nattyj21 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 1:32 PM:

" It is quite sad that so many Americans are willing to spew hate and such lies after their candidate or party does not win (even worse before the election). I suggest people do their research on a candidate, not just believe what Foxnews or any of those others are telling you. I have heard so many people report lies as if they are fact, and watched (in horror) as my white brothers and sisters followed them blindly. They then would repeat the same lies. I had researched both candidates, looking closely at their policies. I suggest the same, many of our citizens could benefit from making up their own minds. These same citizens then wonder why they are called racist or looked down upon by others. In case you did not know, you are looked down upon. Read and research outside of the news media, you might be surprised at what you learn. I believe Obama will be able to help many of our programs and hopefully close some of the racial divide in this county (God willing). I believe in giving a person a chance, if he messes up (don't know how he could mess up worse than the last guy) I will be among the others looking for a new president. In the meantime, how about some common sense from our citizens. I am happy that we are looked at in a good light, finally, across the pond. Maybe know we can REALLY have some true security from terrorists.

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:55 AM:

" I wonder why Christians would vote for him KNOWING he supports abortion and same-sex marriages."

Why do some Christians insist in throwing stones at others? We all sin, maybe if you look in your own closet you might find some of your own sins. Worry about yourself first. When we "all" go to heaven, we each will be judged on our own sins, not others. So stop being so self-righteous!!! "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 7, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Harry Potter...

Pleez....don't be so disingenuous. Eight years of Bush bashing versus 24 months of the media love affair with Obama, surely you jest?

To say "The comments directed toward Obama far exceeded anything that has been said about Bush" is quite the stretch.

On another note...did anyone see the dress Michelle Obama wore the night of the election?

With the red and black dress she wore she looked like a fire hydrant. The DNC needs to spend some cash get her some clothes. She puts the frump in the word frumpy. "

bailey7677 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:04 PM:

" Would Republicans answer one question? What, if anything, did George W. Bush do that was good for the nation? "

gocubs wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:17 PM:

" I am just thankful we dont have a 3rd Bush term, even though I am sad to say I voted for him for his second term!!! What a mistake that was and that is why I did not vote for McCain, to much bush-a-like! It was sad this turned into a race election. I am sure if the Dem. was a white old man we would not be having this conversation. Look how bad off we are in this country! Unemployment has not been to this level in 14 years, the economy is on the brink of being worse then during the great depression!!!! I think those who dont like Obabma because of his race just need to go hang up their white sheets and be happy we have broke the Bush cycle and that America has the potential to be a great country again! GO OBAMA!!!! "

nattyj21 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:20 PM:

" exbricklayer: Also, if GOD loves you so much then why did he allow Obama to beat your savior McBush like a Vietnamese prison guard.

That is so disrespectful and does a complete disservice to what Obama stands for. As much as I don't have respect for Bush, I will treat him as a human being, with dignity. Also, McCain is a war hero. I disagree completely with his policies, but respect him as a human being who sacrificed a lot for this country. As Americans we could learn a lot from Obama, who took the high road throughout most of this past campaign.
Putting down others (even politicians) makes us no better off. "

K.S. wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:21 PM:

" Well put, Becky! "

father bob wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:39 PM:

" spankinit12....Obama isn't going to take away anything any of your guns. don't worry, you can still go shoot bambie.

you just may not be able to cheerfully cut him up with an AK-47 like you want. "

father bob wrote on Nov 7, 2008 4:40 PM:

" ~OpenUnateD~ wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:31 AM:
" Here's my problem. I watched Oprah yesterday and Will Smith (and Oprah) were saying how they wept when Obama was announced as the winner. I felt they are making a much bigger deal out of the fact that he's black than the white's are. I could care less if he's black, white or purple. I realize it's a long time coming....but they are actually making the wrong point. Many American's have not seen 'color' for a long time. That day is gone and we live in a land where blacks and women have just as much rights as anyone. Obama's political views are being overlooked. I think its the black's who were Colorblind on this one. Didn't matter what he stood for as long as he was black. Thats just plain stupid!!! """"
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no, what's stupid is thinking an uneducated white woman setting in a cornfield insulated by other uneducated white people could possibly understand what was being said.

you may have had to actually go to that evil university ....you know that place of higher education, the one with all those big books....and learn something about people, politics and the world. "

medic57 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 4:43 PM:

" We will see. "

idclaire wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:27 PM:

" NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 7, 2008 1:32 PM: On another note...did anyone see the dress Michelle Obama wore the night of the election?
With the red and black dress she wore she looked like a fire hydrant. The DNC needs to spend some cash get her some clothes. She puts the frump in the word frumpy. "
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Gee Wiz Mr. Wizard, I sure hope the way people dress didn't influence your decision on how our country should be dug out of an economic hole. Otherwise we might have to take a look in Laura's wardrobe. Sheeeeeeshhhhh "

injustice85 wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:15 PM:

" Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:55 AM:

" I wonder why Christians would vote for him KNOWING he supports abortion and same-sex marriages.

because they know there are bigger issues he can actually work on, these issues mean squat in this economy and in a time of well "war" i suppose "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 7, 2008 9:50 PM:

" idclaire wrote:

"I sure hope the way people dress didn't influence your decision on how our country should be dug out of an economic hole. Otherwise we might have to take a look in Laura's wardrobe. Sheeeeeeshhhhh "
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Oh... and you weren't all up in arms like the rest of your ilk when you found out that the RNC had purchased the Palin family nice clothes for the campaign, were you?! That's okay, don't reply. I already know the answer...

Yeah...some more hypocrisy from you liberals...

As for the economic hole... I truly want the messiah to go ahead with the tax re-distribution plan ASAP...

I dare him to....

And then watch the government bread lines pop up all over the country....

As for the influencing of my decision, no it did not influence my decision I already knew "the messiah" was full of it.... "

thefunnyfarm wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:24 PM:

" father bob wrote "
no, what's stupid is thinking an uneducated white woman setting in a cornfield insulated by other uneducated white people could possibly understand what was being said.

you may have had to actually go to that evil university ....you know that place of higher education, the one with all those big books....and learn something about people, politics and the world. "

WOW father bob
What point exactly are you trying to make? Because to me you sound exactly like "the uneducated white woman setting (mispelled)in a cornfield insulated by other uneducated white people could possibly understand what was being said."
Funny to me that you chose the spelling for a noun and tried to use it as a verb. And WHO is uneducated and scared by the big books at the University?
Try posting facts and stop the personal attacks and maybe there is one chance that someone might respect your opinion. "

idclaire wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:29 PM:

" LOL "

spanky12 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:42 AM:

" This is my opinion to "CDB88". Actually I have a very good education from a pretty good school. If you don't have a point why don't you stick to voicing your opinion in the break room at McDonalds. There are very good reasons about placing a man in the white house who sits in churces for over 20 years listening to anti-american slander. You choose to remain uneducated to the facts fool. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 8, 2008 7:01 AM:

" With the red and black dress she wore she looked like a fire hydrant. The DNC needs to spend some cash get her some clothes. She puts the frump in the word frumpy.

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Running out of material, Neo? "

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 8, 2008 7:39 AM:

" I have a wonderful idea! Let's all go to Obama's church and learn exactly what love is all about! I'm sure "REV." Wrong...I mean...Wright would welcome us! Let's follow their example and spread the love around!!! While you, "cornfield liberals," are trying to be so politically correct they are LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE ALTER of the chickens who came home to roost. And sorry...don't care what you think in your self-educated mind, I still believe the Lord cares more about human life than economy. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 8, 2008 8:14 AM:

" I'm glad that all of the McCain supporters have this venue to vent their frustrations. Some of them have made some good points, however most of the comments have just been sour grapes.

One partisan was for desperate for something to whine about that he was attacking Michelle Obama's dress. Wow now that was really some heavy stuff. LOL!

Sorry Neo, but that one was about as funny as your soup line comment.

Whether the Republicans believe it or not, this election was in many ways, was a referendum of the last 8 years of Republican control of the government.

Did some vote for Obama just because of his skin color? Absolutely. Yes, that is stupid, but then some would have voted for any candidate running against him as long as they were white, and that is just as stupid.

Obama kept cool throughout the campaign. He managed to stay on message, while his opponent changed messages by the week and sometimes by the day.

Obama came across as a calm, cool, intelligent and stable man, while McCain came across as an angry, and often times confused, old man who had trouble staying focused.

I still maintain that Palin cost McCain the election. While the hard core base loved her, her ignorance was evident to the rest of the country. As someone commented to me, she seems as dumb as dirt. And with her simplistic view of the world and the government, she was such an easy target for the press. More and more is coming out about her shortcomings now that it's over. Apparently she thought Africa was a nation and didn't realize it's a continent. This is just one small example of her lack of knowledge, and most 4th grade students know better than that.

For one or two days, even Fixed news was beating Palin up too. Evidently Roger Ailes didn't like that, because Greta V is now going to interview Palin. Watch for some hard hitting questions from Greta. (that was a joke)

Old bulging veins Bill O'Reilly was visibly upset with Carl Cameron for discussing Palin's ignorance the other night, so I'll bet old Campaign Carl will be in the doghouse for a while. Carl broke the Republican eleventh commandment, he spoke ill of another Republican, and that's a no no at Fixed news. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:01 AM:

" Thefunnyfarm (a very fitting name, I might add) tells father bob:

Try posting facts and stop the personal attacks and maybe there is one chance that someone might respect your opinion

Translation: try posting things I believe in or agree with....right funny? "

The Question wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:56 AM:

" As Bill Maher said yesterday, Palin may have the support of 75 percent of the Republicans to run in 2012, but she has the support of 100 percent of the Democrats. "

bailey7677 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 1:42 PM:

" I can't believe the idiots that believe that abortion and gay marriage are more important than the economy. If one doesn't have an income then those two issues don't really matter. Plus, give Obama a break, he hasn't had a chance to do anything yet. "

~OpenUnateD~ wrote on Nov 8, 2008 1:50 PM:

" Father Bob - Why are you attacking? I mean this was my opinion (pretty much the assignment here, right?) And what makes you think men don't watch Oprah? LOL! AND...I never said anything about Obama's policies, right or wrong. I think its a shame that he was voted for in large part BECAUSE he's black. Equally, I feel its a shame that so many people say he'll be assasinated - because he's BLACK. His color shouldn't matter - and doesn't to me! The fact that he's in favor of killing babies, now that bothers me! "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 8, 2008 2:19 PM:

" Fox news crows about landing the first Palin interview, well duh! Who else is going to throw her softballs? "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 8, 2008 3:34 PM:

" Palin's tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists Photo:

Reuters

The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

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These must be another example of the core beliefs that we were hearing about a few weeks ago from our friend, Marty. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 8, 2008 3:45 PM:

" Reuters

The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

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But was it unintentional?

And was stirring up hatred one of those core beliefs that we were hearing about a few weeks ago from our friend from Arthur.

She was all a twitter over Salad-head Palin after hearing her speech at the Republican convention, but I wonder if she has changed her mind after all the stuff has come out about this light weight ignoramus. "

NeoCon Academician wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:39 PM:

" Now Harry Potter....

Aren't you being just a "wee bit" hypocritical?

If we had a dollar for all the postings over the past several months you associated every ill in the world, let alone the country, to President GW Bush....well....let's just say there'd be no national debt.

By the way Harry...I'm not running out of material....I'm just getting started.

Did you per chance read the Chicago Tribune yesterday? It seems others in the country noted Michelle-wife-of-"the messiah's" frumpiness the evening of the election, too.

I was serious about the soup lines comments...I remember the middle to late '70's, do you?

And I guess we'll just have to wait and see if my prediction of the "government cheese" and soup lines pans out because of "the messiah's" policies.... "

red,white,blue wrote on Nov 8, 2008 8:16 PM:

" In response to: " Would Republicans answer one question? What, if anything, did George W. Bush do that was good for the nation? "

Gave us tax cuts that had the economy purring along at a brisk rate until the Dems got control of Congress almost 3 years ago and immediately brought things to a halt with their endless Iraq war resolutions, accomplishing NOTHING in the meantime.

And the big one: KEPT US SAFE! "

medic57 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 8:35 PM:

" The difference between your "observations" and the commentary of the "pros" like father bob, question, harry potter, et.al

The Pros

Don't make laugh, Ha, Ha, Ha "

spanky12 wrote on Nov 9, 2008 6:37 AM:

" To "Fr. Bobbitt" and "Ex Cakemaker" or "Bricklayer" . You spill your nonsense not choosing to stick to the facts about your new president. So let me remind you of some facts. He is a socialist who doesn't appreciate the democracy that built this contry. I enjoy watching you bash every fact that is laid out on this forum. 1.: Up til recently obama did not even engage in the american legion. 2: He did sit in a church for over 20 years with anti-american rants being tossed about. 3: The community he attempted to organize in Chicago is the worst crime sector in the city. These are just a few of the FACTS about obama. These are as true as the fact that both of you remain ignorant to reality. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 9, 2008 10:02 AM:

" Illinoisbound talks of cornfield liberals. Would a cornfield liberal be the counterpart of a trailer park Republican?

Seriously Illinoisbound, your preaching would have a little more credibility if you ditched your hate speech.

You remind me of those hypocrites who spout their faith on one moment and express hated for the homosexual community in the next breath.

Just another hateful and angry bible thumper trying to tell the rest of the world how to live, aren't you? "

whitedove wrote on Nov 9, 2008 2:26 PM:

" I have just one question to ask you people... Can any of you debate a statement or question without all the namecalling, negative, hurtful and bashing remarks to others???? I rather doubt it but it would be a very refreshing to be able to read these boards where people voice their opinions without being jumped on by others. You all know who you are. Why don't we try it for a day or so? But I doubt it if any will. JMHO "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 9, 2008 4:20 PM:

" If we had a dollar for all the postings over the past several months you associated every ill in the world, let alone the country, to President GW Bush....well....let's just say there'd be no national debt.

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Now come on Neo. Even if I criticized Bush 10 times a day for the last 2 years, that wouldn't be enough to take care of the boiler slag fiasco in Mattoon let alone the national debt. Weren't you exaggerating just a "wee bit"?

Now if we could get a hold of Bush's oil stock portfolio and Dick Cheney's Halliburton stock options and...well you get the idea. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 9, 2008 4:33 PM:

" " I have just one question to ask you people... Can any of you debate a statement or question without all the namecalling, negative, hurtful and bashing remarks to others????

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And what kind of fun would that be????

What are you trying to do, take all the fun out of this format?

Geeesh....some people! "

bailey7677 wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:14 PM:

" In response to red, white, blue:
Without the Republicans the Democrats hands were tied. Plus, Bush would have vetoed anything. The economy was going great when we had a Democrat in the white house until Bush squandered it with tax cuts. Also, getting into Iraq has been a nightmare. Yeah, Bush has been great. He should be a cellmate of George Ryan. "

Illinoisbound wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:25 PM:

" Harry Potter...I got the "cornfield" phrase from Father Bob. You can thank him for it. :) I guess that's what happens when you hang out too long with the liberals. HA! "

Billie Brant wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:53 PM:

" Hey HP! Per your post at 4:33 PM on Nov 9, I know how much you love to argue! :-) How have you been? Looks like you've been in fine form stirring it up with a big wand as usual! LOL!!

Even if I don't agree with you a lot of the time,you often crack me up with that caustic wit of yours. I think I'm "on to you" my friend. Sometimes we take ourselves wa-a-a-y too seriously don't we? Sh! I won't tell anyone. :-) "

mar11 wrote on Nov 9, 2008 8:14 PM:

" Well, I voted for McCain, but I expected Obama to win. Too many clueless voters out there. Also this could be considered "poetic justice". The Dems created the subprime mess, now we will see how they can clean it up.
For the clueless here is the timeline on the creation of the subprime mess (this can all be checked out on reputable internet sites).
1. The Community Reinvestment Act was passed in 1977 during the Carter Admin. It remained rather benign until the Clinton Admin in 1995 added some banking regulations requiring banks to do more lending of "bad credit mortgages". Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac then got in on it issueing bonds backed by these bad loans now called subprime loans.
2. In 1999 the Clinton Admin done away with regulations and oversite of the financial system. (Sorry Pelosi, it was Clinton not Bush)
3. In 2003, the Bush Admin tried to pass oversite legislation of Fannie and Freddie, but the Dems killed it.
4. In 2005 and 2006 4 Repub Senators issued S.B.190 for oversite of Fannie and Freddie. It was killed by the Dems in committee.
Now you know. "

red,white,blue wrote on Nov 9, 2008 10:45 PM:

" to bailey76777666 whatever: Ignoring the facts does not make your statements right. No use repeating what actually happened in the first 6 years of Bush's presidency or what happened after the Dems took control of Congress, you don't want to hear the truth. "

Knowitall wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:19 AM:

" Presidents from Illinois
Lincoln-responsible for 600,000 dead.
Broke several laws and oaths of office.
Grant, extremly corrupt administration.
Reagan-somewhat senile last 2 years,took naps in meetings
Obama- wait and see. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:49 AM:

" Billie Billie Billie, surely you misunderstand me, my friend. Or you jest.

Wouldn't it be a dull life if we all looked alike, dressed alike, had the same thoughts, ideas, opinions, hopes, dreams, aspirations and.....well you get the idea.

And I doubt you will be surprised at one of my favorite quotes:

It is twice the pleasure to deceive the deceiver.(Jean de La Fontaine- French poet)

I note that you slip back on these threads on occasion, and I hope that you do so more often in the future. Good to hear directly from you.

Any more thoughts on the book? "

OpenUnateD wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:39 AM:

" Just wanted to say that Christians strive to be Holy every day! I believe that when I go to Heaven I'll be asked "Did you practice Homosexuality?" And I will meekly say "No"....then a booming voice will say "DID YOU STAND IN JUDGEMENT OF THOSE WHO DID?!" And that, I believe is the true test. I, for one, will say, "No, I did not". Same with Abortion. "Did you have or promote Abortion?" "no" DID YOU STAND IN JUDGEMENT OF THOSE WHO DID?!" At which point I will say "No, I did not". Do I have an issue with abortion? Yes, but only because of my personal experiences of having to pick up the pieces of broken friends who've experienced this....and 100% of the time, regret thier decision and suffer emotionally from it. That's my problem The struggling Christain in me doesn't judge the mother, I pray for thier pain. "

bailey7677 wrote on Nov 10, 2008 2:18 PM:

" To Red, White, Blue:
What truth? I'm tired of Democrats being blamed for things that were Republicans fault. I'm sure if Obama does well it's because of Republicans, not because of what Obama does. "

Cognitus wrote on Nov 10, 2008 2:26 PM:

" Neo Con [Take off the Neo part and you've
got it about right]
"Indianapolis/Marion County, a democrat stronghold, had an estimated population of 876,804 in 2007."
The US Census Bureau says their estimate
of 2007 population is 795,458.
With his beginning data trashed, we can
ignore all the rest. "

Cognitus wrote on Nov 10, 2008 2:57 PM:

" I was living in Virginia when the Supreme Court reached its verdict in Brown v. Board of Education.
I thought then that never again would I see such racial hatred. But I misjudged the people of Charleston, even though I lived here 3 years while in college. Never have I seen such hatred and bitterness as in this series of comments.
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I just got my copy of the Southern Poverty Law Center today.
Some of you earlier have praised the book "The Obama Nation" written by Jerome Corsi. The SPLC informs us that he has been on various white supremacist, racist and anti-Semitic radio programs.
Those of you who praised the book recently should know that he also has
made wild charges about McCain, claiming his campaign was financed in part by AlQaeda.
Various inaccuracies and distortions in his book about Obama have been documented by several watchdog organizations.
The white supremacists in this column will be happy to note that the SPLC news reports that many white supremacists are "upbeat" about Obama's victory, because it gives them a target on which they can focus their hatred and thus gain new supporters.
The KKK in Mississippi is looking for new members; I wonder who in these comments will be renting a bus, rounding up his/her friends and heading south. I'm sure they will be the guests of honor at the next KKK rally. "

Billie Brant wrote on Nov 10, 2008 3:36 PM:

" HP, I love that quote! I'll have to admit I've never heard it before.

I see you really liked JAS's
"spin" remark. How badly are you beating yourself up that you didn't come up with it first? LOL!

If I can stay healthy this winter I may start writing rough drafts of my "Toby Stories" I doubt I'll put them in a book though. I think I'll just copy them and give them to friends and family. Most of them are hilarious.

Now that Veterans Day is almost here, many of those stories will surface once again as I remember him and his fellow vets as we honor our veterans on their day tomorrow. The subject matter always turns to "the big guy" at some time and we remember him not only as the warrior he was, but the extraordinary man he was; a man who thought he was just an ordinary "Joe".

I may walk back onto these threads from time to time. I know you'll always be "up" for a good argument! LOL! "

father bob wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:16 PM:

" red,white,blue wrote on Nov 9, 2008 10:45 PM:
" to bailey76777666 whatever: Ignoring the facts does not make your statements right. No use repeating what actually happened in the first 6 years of Bush's presidency or what happened after the Dems took control of Congress, you don't want to hear the truth."""
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you idiots amaze me. with a simple majority, the dems can't do anything more than slow things down. it takes 60 seats to "control" anything in the senate. last i knew it takes the house and senate to enact anything, then you still have the president's veto power.

sooooo....try again, but use another angle. "

Early Bird wrote on Nov 11, 2008 5:35 AM:

" The KKK in Mississippi is looking for new members; I wonder who in these comments will be renting a bus, rounding up his/her friends and heading south. I'm sure they will be the guests of honor at the next KKK rally. "

.........................

It would seem that this area, at least in judging some of the remarks being made on here, and from one particular bitter poster, would be a good place for them to recruit. "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:32 AM:

" Yeah Billie, that was a good one. I give credit where credit is due, and yes, I do wish I had come up with that one. I would love to see your finished story collection. "

Cognitus wrote on Nov 11, 2008 1:05 PM:

" IllinoisBound wrote:"" I still wonder . I wonder... I wonder ... I wonder... I wonder... I wonder... I wonder... I wonder... .still wonder.... I wonder... I wonder.... I guess the last thing I wonder...
AT LAST!!! I think you've done enough wondering for today; you've wandered all over the political landscape trying to justify voting for McCain. "

Cognitus wrote on Nov 11, 2008 1:10 PM:

" " Many people question Obama's experience in politics, which, in their eyes, would mean he is not fit to be the president."
My answer to that is the following: Consider Lincoln, the president before him and the one after him. Of the 3, the previous and following both had MUCH MORE political experience but Lincoln, but the next time you're in DC, walk to the west end of the Mall and see who has the magnificent monument ... and reconsider your attitude re "experience" "

Harry Potter wrote on Nov 11, 2008 5:34 PM:

" I too have noticed that Illinoisbound seems to be a bit confused, Cognitus. She, like so many of the Obama critics, didn't really seem to be all that keen on McCain and actually appeared to be merely voting against Obama. It also appears that most of the Obama fear and hatred is based on unproven allegations, Internet rumors and yes, bigotry. "

daisy wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:42 AM:

" Can somebody please answer a question for me? Why does voting for McCain make me a racist? I voted for McCain because I agreed with him. I did not vote for Obama because I disagreed with him. End of story. So, why am I being called a racist? If a black person opted not to vote to McCain, does that make him or her a racist? I'm so sick of this crap I could vomit. Give the race issue a rest already. "

father bob wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:14 AM:

" daisy wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:42 AM:
" Can somebody please answer a question for me? Why does voting for McCain make me a racist? """

just who has called you a racist? "

ed miller wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:16 AM:

" Everyone talks about the "Change" now. Funny, it looks to me like we elected/re-elected a bunch more Democrats and Republicans. That's not change, that's more of the same bloated do-nothing government and party finger-pointing that we have had forever. Stand by for more of the same. "

father bob wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:19 AM:

" to answer your question daisy....first of all, 99.9999% of the people who voted for mccain/palin are not racist....just voters.

on the other hand, i'm sure there is a small percentage who voted for mccain or barr or someone else because of race. "

citizenofmattoon wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:45 AM:

" I have never been a democrat or a republican. I have always felt that the best man should win.
NOW....how in the world would we know.
THEY lie to us, in my opinion, steal from us and treat us like we just aren't quit good enough. This is after they get in. Look at Nixon (republican). Look at Clinton (democrat). They know how to nothing but bash each other and lie to us, so how in the world is a person to know who to vote for? Unless they consider thier party to be a religion?
I THINK if Obama is given a chance (which I doubt) he will do his level best to do what is best for this country.
We can do nothing except pray and wish him well. God will do the rest. That is He is allowed to do so... "

coonbug wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:09 PM:

" One Step for Mankind....
One Step for the Black community
One Huge Step for America

Congrats to President Elect Barack Obama "

Becky wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:13 PM:

" "That's not change, that's more of the same bloated do-nothing government and party finger-pointing that we have had forever. Stand by for more of the same"

True, so very true. That is why now is the time to start a grass roots movement to change election/champaign laws to get more parties in the election process. I think it was cd who posted about this on another blog but I also think it's what we really need. Both the Dems and Reps have been in power too long and neither party listens to us once the elections are over. There are several other parties out there with good ideas and weird ideas but they should be able to run for office just as easily as a dem or rep. "

father bob wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:17 PM:

" Becky wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:13 PM:
" There are several other parties out there with good ideas and weird ideas but they should be able to run for office just as easily as a dem or rep."""
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they can, and they do. they just don't get the numbers and in turn donations or publicity.

the election laws are very clear and specific about being open to all. YOU can run in 2012.....just put a campaign team together and get going! "

ed miller wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:42 PM:

" The other parties are there, but they are virtually ignored by the MSM, nor are they invited to the major debates. I think in 2000 or 2004, I did see three of the "other" parties have their candidates debate on CSPAN. It was pretty much ignored by everyone else. The only attention they get are in reference to which major candidate they will "steal" votes from. "

father bob wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:50 PM:

" geeeezzzzzzzz.......

Please let this writing serve as an official request. In light of the recent election results, Cezar Capone Productions would like to make you a formal offer of $2,000,000 to star in an adult "MILF" production.

I am sure you are unaware that Cezar Capone is the KING of all "MILF" films. This one time offer also guarantees that you can walk away from our beautiful set with a newer and sexier wardrobe to make up for the $150,000 worth of clothes you had to give back to the GOP.

Oh, you can be quite sure that if Cezar Capone Productions is within sight of any Alaska landmarks, that Palin is well informed of his claim to MILF royalty. The real question is, why would Sarah Palin even consider such a crazy proposition?

You may be asking yourself why you should even consider such a crazy proposition?

The answer is simple; this film will be shot in high definition, and be a glossy, adult production starring a beautiful mother recognized by all of America as well as the rest of the world -the most desirable woman over 40! The film will be distributed internationally on DVD, as well as the website will reside on palinsupermilf.com

And this part might just be the dealmaker:

We have taken into consideration that there may be some hesitation to star in an adult production with male talent other than your husband so we are also prepared to kick in an extra $100,000.00 for your husband Todd to star in the movie with you, along with a brand new Arctic Cat snowmobile for him to sweeten the deal. "

Rotty wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:57 PM:

" It appears some smut movie maker just wants to cash in an attempt to get some lime-light.

I just have to wonder one thing....

Would this same smut movie maker had tried the exact same thing, with Mrs. Obama, if Mr. Obama had not got elected?

Next piece of insanity please!

What some people won't do, to try & get a piece of the action.

geeeezzzzzzzz....... indeed! "

julio wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:32 AM:

" I just wish we hadn't lost the 8 Bush years. At least "most" people are paying attention now and hopefully we don't get snowed again.
8 years ago Bush won by selling "family values" and cheating in Florida. Now that we're watching they can't cheat. And I don't think anyone wants the family values of Republicans Mark Foley, Ted Stephans, and Larry Craig anywhere near their family. "

sapient wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:21 AM:

" However, FB, when polls show that the black community is basically conservative in their opinions -school choice, right to life, against gay marriage, etc., but vote 95% for Obama who is the most liberal senator simply because he is black that is racism or at least it would be if the colors were reversed. "

injustice85 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:13 PM:

" I'm at least happy that Sarah Palin is now backing our chosen president whereas McCain is still sour and complaining. It isn't that it is poor taste its that he needs to help the country unite and work as one whereas instead McCain is proving how he only cares about himself, same thing with the public opinion thing, John McCain wouldn't have cared about how we felt about the countries direction, Obama will listen to us, it is actually nice to be American again, i think the positive atmosphere alone will do wonders for the country, i'm concerned about the hate factor though, too many people will hate Obama instead of backing him which is a downfall to society "

father bob wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:14 PM:

" good to see we might once and for all be rid of snotnosed tommie andres.....

and where has old pierce been hiding?

'spose they've both moved to louisiana? "

father bob wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:20 PM:

" 100,000 Minutes To Go

On Nov 13, 2008, at 1:20 AM EST (10:20 PM PST), Still President George W. Bush will have 100,000 minutes remaining in his administration. One minute later, its down to 5 digits and getting lower all the time.

There are sixty minutes in an hour and twenty-four hours in a day, so that makes 1,440 minutes per day. (Thats in case you want to count them down a chunk at a time.) The countdown ends on Jan 20, 2009, at Noon EST, when President-Elect Barack Obama will become the 44th President of the United States. "

injustice85 wrote on Nov 16, 2008 10:32 AM:

" spanky12 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:42 AM:
There are very good reasons about placing a man in the white house who sits in churces for over 20 years listening to anti-american slander. You choose to remain uneducated to the facts fool.

I honestly don't care if he worshiped satan, he has earned his position and has shown how he can help the country and what church pew he sits his butt in means little to me, religion has nothing to do with these issues but people sure think they do, they are the fooled and the uneducated, politics is politics, you have to leave your religion out of it, we live in an "obama-nation" how ridiculous! i'm so tired of hearing that, i guess christians support useless war and the rebirth of failed economic policies "

american citizen wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:51 AM:

" We need to see the world as being "one." No, we are not all terrorists; however, only when we individually and collectively can put our prejudices aside will we ALL enjoy freedom and peace.
For the sake of our country's future, we need to support our President-elect and make the sacrifices we need to make in order to save our country from further ruin. "