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Monday, October 27, 2008 11:07 PM CDT
Jury finds Bonnstetter not guilty
EIU associate athletic director was accused of entering woman's home



CHARLESTON — He showed no reaction when the jury’s decision was announced Monday, but Mark Bonnstetter had trouble finding the words to describe his feelings afterward.

After about three hours of deliberation, the seven-woman, five-man jury acquitted the Eastern Illinois University associate athletic director of all charges in a case that accused him of entering a neighbor woman’s house and trying to fondle her.

Later, Bonnstetter took several moments to compose his thoughts before describing his relief at the jury’s decision.

“I am glad this is over and I can go be with my family again,” he said. “That’s the only thing that matters.”

Defense attorney Raipher Pellegrino credited sleep expert Rosaline Cartwright’s testimony during the five-day trial with helping to show the jury that Bonnstetter could have been sleepwalking when he entered the now 20-year-old woman’s house on Nov. 25, 2006.

That meant he couldn’t have had the intent needed to commit any crime, according to the defense attorney.

“I think the truth came through,” Pellegrino said.

The woman testified that she first woke when she felt someone touching her under her pajama pants, and her boyfriend, who was in the bedroom with her, soon discovered Bonnstetter on the floor of the room.

Bonnstetter later told a police officer he went into the home to check on things because the door was open and lights were on, then during his own trial testimony said he actually remembered little before waking in the bedroom after he was discovered there.

Asked after the verdict what might have happened with his job had he been convicted, Bonnstetter said EIU has been “very supportive” of him during the case, but added, “I couldn’t have survived a conviction.”

Bonnstetter, 40, of 20 Woodfield Lane, Charleston, was charged with trespassing for allegedly entering the woman’s house without permission when he knew or should have known someone was there. The jury had the option of finding him guilty of a less-serious charge that alleged only that he entered but that he didn’t know anyone was home, but jurors didn’t find him guilty of that offense, either.

Other charges in the case were residential burglary, which accused Bonnstetter of entering the house planning to commit another crime, and attempted criminal sexual abuse for allegedly taking a “substantial step” toward fondling the woman. Prison time would have been required with a conviction on the burglary charge.

The woman was in the courtroom at the time the jury’s verdict was announced. She appeared to be on the verge of tears but otherwise showed no other reaction, and left the courthouse before she could be asked if she wished to comment on the outcome.

Assistant State’s Attorney Mick McAvoy, who prosecuted, admitted after the verdict that the case was complicated and said the jury “could have based its decision on any number of issues.”

During his closing arguments to the jury, McAvoy noted that family members testified at the trial about Bonnstetter’s history of sleepwalking and said the prosecution had no contention against that. However, their descriptions of Bonnstetter not responding when spoken to and having no memory of the incident later contrasted with how the woman said he recognized her and tried to identify himself and how he was able to give an account to police, he added.

“What those people saw could hardly be farther from what happened on Nov. 25, 2006,” McAvoy said.

He also noted that Bonnstetter told a police officer that he didn’t go to the house’s basement before entering the bedroom, something the sleeping woman and boyfriend couldn’t have known. He said that eliminated the possibility that Bonnstetter remembered that from “prompting,” the way he said he can sometime remember something he does while sleepwalking if someone reminds him of it.

“He knew something no one else knew,” McAvoy said. “These actions are not the action of someone who’s sleepwalking.”

In his argument to the jury, Pellegrino said Bonnstetter made a “genuine effort to try to explain what happened,” but the real explanation was Cartwright’s conclusion. What Bonnstetter was accused of doing was totally contrary to his normal actions, he said.

“This bizarre and illogical behavior can only start to be understood by a sleepwalking incident,” Pellegrino said.

He also questioned the woman’s story, as she said she walked Bonnstetter out of the house herself, instead of having her boyfriend do it, and it wasn’t until the next morning that she said anything to her boyfriend about being touched.

“This was a woman who felt she was violated and she doesn’t even raise it,” he said.

Contact Dave Fopay at dfopay@jg-tc.com or 348-5733.


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85CHSGrad wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:09 PM:

" Another quality prosecution from the Ferguson Administration! "

blackhawk wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:37 PM:

" Unbelievable!!!! How could anyone on the jury buy in to that load of crap? Maybe I'll go on a crime spree and just claim I was sleepwalking and hope I get a jury as ignorant as this one! What a joke. "

mindboggle wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:52 PM:

" Um, Your Honor, I didn't rob the bank, I was sleepwalking. "

mindboggle wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:52 PM:

" Um, Officer, I wasn't speeding, I was sleepdriving. "

idclaire wrote on Oct 27, 2008 8:45 PM:

" That one will make the national "joke in the courtroom" list. That makes a laughing stalk of Coles County. It makes a laughing stalk out of EIU. It almost makes me embarrassed to admit that I live in this county! "

Sam wrote on Oct 27, 2008 9:27 PM:

" I don't know how this makes EIU the "laughing stalk." The university wasn't the jury. It was a pool of Coles County residents, and all 12 voted unanimously. So, if anyone would be the "laughing stalk" it would be the Coles County jury pool. "

People are grasping wrote on Oct 27, 2008 9:39 PM:

" Sleepwalking? Wow. Good one. Was the jury made up of a bunch of baboons? Wait, even baboons would have come back with a guilty verdict. "

Mike P wrote on Oct 27, 2008 9:44 PM:

" Court coverage hasbeen lacking, as usual. We have little of the actual case to go on. We don't know what options the jury were given for verdicts. We don't know what instructions were given for their deliberations.

I think it is a miscariage of justice, from the reports on the case. It should have been guilty but not competent, if that was even a provided choice.

My thoughts on the defense, didn't survive censorship. This was a complex case, and we don't know where the law stands on these specific circumstances.

SA office likely dropped the ball in being competent to efectively prosecute, it took just under 2 years to make it to a jury. A verdict like this, is exactly why they plead so often. Court is always a risk for both sides, and they couldn't convince the people in the box, a crime was comitted, and the defendent was responsible.

This is likely to be national exposure for our court system. Its another unfortunate example of justice in coles county. It is broken, and this is the ultimate result that comes under these circumstances.

Heres the new billboard. Want to get away with home invasion, in the county you can get away with murder, simply say you were sleepwalking.

Legaly I would think it is comparable to someone with diagnosed mental issues, failing to take their medications, or other prescribed measures. Now anyone with diagnosed sleepwalking, can commit a felony, and simply say they were not aware of what they were doing. It's an ugly gray area, and the defendant admitted he broke the law, but claimed he was sleepwalking when he did it. SA prosecution, failed to find legal ground to stand on in even prosecuting this case, it seems to me. Allowing the defendant 2 years to build a case, compounds their incompetence, if they didn't use the time, to reinforce their own, to negate the proposed excuse for home invasion and feeling up the victim.

If something was wrapped around the alarm clock, law enforcement failed to document the scene properly to build a stong case on in the first place. They simply relied on the defendant being in the home, and failed to note how he was, and what exactly he did, while inside. If that testimony and evidence was provided, it failed to make the coverage of the procedings.

We only have this papers coverage to go on, to make any determinations of what actually was presented to what extent at trial. They don't have a real strong track record of factually covering any local news, and fully informing their readers of important local news and events. See what some other outlets run on this case, before rushing to judgements on any issue this paper presents. "

slap63 wrote on Oct 27, 2008 10:23 PM:

" I just don't understand the SA office. They let child molesters out with a plea bargain on probation, never charge them with a felony in the first place. Yet this guy is charged with a felony. What is going on? Any sex crime should be a felony. And they need to do away with the plea bargaining. If they would do their jobs they wouldn't need to plea bargain. I don't think this SA office could ever get a guilty verdict for anyone unless they confess and yep, plea bargain. "

Lilly wrote on Oct 27, 2008 10:40 PM:

" Is Abernathy's self defense claim so outrageous now?
He claimed self defense from the first minute.
Mr. Bonsteeter had over 2 years to come up with his story.

This SA's office is a joke "

Lilly wrote on Oct 27, 2008 11:01 PM:

" Why wasn't Steve Ferguson-Lead prosecutor handling this case?
Was it to close to the election?
Poor McAvoy! The fall guy!
What is taking you so long with this story Mr. Fopay?
Are you letting Fergie take the sting out of the loss, by letting him dictate the article? "

medic57 wrote on Oct 27, 2008 11:31 PM:

" Um, Officer, I wasn't speeding, I was sleepdriving

That's not funny, I've done that. "

Mike P wrote on Oct 27, 2008 11:39 PM:

" Google sleepwalking crime defense. There was another case sucessfully defended by a lawyer out east, with a familure sounding name. His lawfirm lists the victory prominently. Now they have another feather to display in thier cap. Several cases have been brought to trial, around the world.

He sucesfully defended someone charged with 18 counts in a home invasion/sexual assault case in massachusetts, the first such success in 156 years in that state. No date of that trial is given, but it was on the first page of my search results, prominently at the top, for anyone to find. Money talks, and often that can result in a guilty defendant walks.

This was a hired gun, who has crafted this defense in a prior trial. Why was an assistant lead counsel for the prosecution, against a previously successful lawyer, in a simmilar case, from a Massachusetts law firm in the first place? "

The 13th Juror wrote on Oct 28, 2008 7:35 AM:

" This article headline reads "Jury finds Bonnstetter not guilty" and the article itself states he was "acquitted". Acquitted and not guilty are two separately defined verdict types. Which was it? "

pj1983 wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:09 AM:

" i for one am glad you weren't on the jury, 13th...they're the same thing

from the dictionary:

acquit: to relieve from a charge of fault or crime; declare not guilty

acquittal: judicial deliverance from a criminal charge on a verdict or finding of not guilty. "

Old Grumpy wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:14 AM:

" Just like the first OJ trial. Have you ever wondered about who sits on these juries? Twelve people who could not find an excuse for not sitting on it that is who. I think the jury has been watching too much Judge Judy and Dr. Phil. LOL "

I Care wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:23 AM:

" Mike P GREAT detective work I am betting wat better than was done in this case.You are 100% correct he was a hired gun. So I would also say that someone involved with Bonnstetter was also smart enough to look for the hired gun. Or maybe also that Bonnstetter had read the newsclip before and decided that if he ever got caught he would just use that excuse. What I dont understand about the all not guilty is this in his own statement he said "he went into the home to check on things because the door was open and lights were on" that is GUILTY of home invasion. "

The Question wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:38 AM:

" No, the newspaper is correct. In criminal law, an acquittal is a verdict of not guilty. "

Techno-less wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:50 AM:

" No one could get away with a crime by claiming that they were sleepwalking unless they already had an established history of sleepwalking, especially after being treated for it professionally. So, let's not be robbing any banks, people.


This aside, I question if he were actually sleepwalking in this incidence. First he says he was just checking out the house out of concern, then he says he was sleepwalking and can't remember. It was just too confusing to decipher without access to the court documents. And without better information on sleepwalking disorders. And without knowing the man.

I am confused over the Prosecution's testifiers as well. He said, She said?

I'll just remain glad that he isn't my neighbor, and save the ranting for a time of less confusion. "

lojack wrote on Oct 28, 2008 10:04 AM:

" Todd Reardon should not be upset by this verdict. It even says on his orange shirts and his campaign motto that he wants to give "power to the people". Well, the power was with the people in that 12 jurors unanimously came to a desicion. "

sapient wrote on Oct 28, 2008 11:29 AM:

" I did not attend the trial. I do not know what all the evidence was. The prosecutor's office prosecuted the case. The jury heard all the evidence, deliberated, and came to a verdict. I don't know if the man was guilty or not, but those responsible for deciding thought he was not. What a terrible thing it would have been if the man is innocent to have been convicted of a crime he didn't commit. I guess that could be said though about any conviction. "

Beaches wrote on Oct 28, 2008 11:31 AM:

" I'm curious - were any of you there when this "incident" occurred? Were any of you in the courtroom to hear all the testimony? How can you be so "sure" that he is guilty? I admit that the two stories, sleepwalking and going in because he was concerned, didn't add up for me as well. But it also doesn't add up that the woman walked him to the door after the incident and left her boyfriend upstairs. I don't know the truth, and I'm uncertain whether he was guilty or not, but I am open to looking at the big picture and not jumping to conclusions. "

Todd Reardon wrote on Oct 28, 2008 11:34 AM:

" For all the Ferguson Supporters, E-B, H-P et al. Go and read the article in the October 12, 2008, JG-TC. Read how Steve attended a 9-day seminar at our expense to learn, among other things, how to cross-examine Defense Expert Witnesses, and this was the first opportunity for him to practice his new found skills. There were several expert witnesses in this case, and Steve put in 0 hours in this trial. Maybe the assistant State's Attorneys, who were forced to try this case, should have been attending seminars about cross examining experts. Because at least they go into the courtroom and try cases. "

RDCENT wrote on Oct 28, 2008 1:42 PM:

" " Court coverage hasbeen lacking, as usual. We have little of the actual case to go on.....I think it is a miscariage of justice, from the reports on the case.

I don't have enough information but will form an opinion anyway. "

Old grumpy wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Todd, as usual you are right on the nose with your criticism. As a Monday morning quarterback you are perfect. If you become the next State's Attorney what will your excuse be when a jury finds against you? Oh I forgot, you will not files charges in the first place. Judging by your posts you have never lost a case. How does it feel to be perfect? "

The Question wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:55 PM:

" "I did not attend the trial. I do not know what all the evidence was. The prosecutor's office prosecuted the case. The jury heard all the evidence, deliberated, and came to a verdict. I don't know if the man was guilty or not, but those responsible for deciding thought he was not. What a terrible thing it would have been if the man is innocent to have been convicted of a crime he didn't commit. I guess that could be said though about any conviction. "
---
Amazingly, I agree with Sappy for the second time in a day, and probably the last time ever. "

85CHSGrad wrote on Oct 28, 2008 5:28 PM:

" Sapient wrote
""" What a terrible thing it would have been if the man is innocent to have been convicted of a crime he didn't commit. I guess that could be said though about any conviction. """
==================

Such as in this case also...

""CHARLESTON A judge dismissed a theft charge against a Mattoon woman because evidence indicated her only link to the alleged victim was that they lived in the same building.

Nancy K. Campbell, 64, 217 Moultrie Ave., Mattoon, had been accused of stealing medicine and other supplies for diabetes from another woman on Oct. 29, when they both lived at the same care facility.

However, evidence at a hearing before Circuit Judge Teresa Righter indicated the medical supplies were discovered missing from a shopping cart in a hallway at the facility, where other people besides Campbell would have had access to them.

Righter agreed with arguments from Public Defender Lonnie Lutz, who represented Campbell, that there wasnt enough evidence that Campbell committed the crime for the judge to order a trial to take place. Lutz said no one saw Campbell take the supplies, and she denied that she stole them.

Can you imagine this older lady having to post a Jail bond, out of her Social Security check, when there was NO EVIDENCE?

How much do all these proceedings cost us taxpayers, just because Steve Ferguson can't tell evidence from speculation? Thank you Judge Righter for saving the taxpayers from the State's Atty's Office!!! No hard evidence!!! And was still trying to get a conviction. Also feel free to look through the archives for the Jonathan Garza case in May 2007, and the Jason Abernathy case in May 2008! The evidence is not there to put them thru a trial....Or even charge them with a crime. Judge Cini threw out the Jonathan Garza case for lack of evidence, Yet Abernathy had to go through the trial, and was found "not guilty". I say shame on Judge Jacobs as well as Steve Ferguson for that one!

To wrap this up, I thought the State's Atty's Office was supposed to be fair and honest, and look at a case from both sides of the story. Not rush to judgement and charge people with crimes, based on pure speculation! Review all the evidence before making an arrest! Then Harry Potter wonders why I endorse Mr. Reardon for State's Atty! "

85CHSGrad wrote on Oct 28, 2008 5:46 PM:

" Just think if Lonnie and other public defenders would take more cases to trial? We would get a real good picture of their practices in the SA's office! "

Jimbo529 wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:17 PM:

" Sapient wrote
""" What a terrible thing it would have been if the man is innocent to have been convicted of a crime he didn't commit.

Just ask Randy Steidl "

Harry Potter wrote on Oct 28, 2008 7:27 PM:

" And then there are those who would argue that if everyone had done their job correctly, Steidl would still be in prison. "

BigDaddy wrote on Oct 28, 2008 7:41 PM:

" Sleepwalking as defense?
Wonder how many sleepwalkers are currently in the county jail? A bunch of them i'd guess.lol
Another sign for Florida? lol "

Jo wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:08 PM:

" I have yet to understand how a jury could find him 'not guilty' on the trespassing charge. It was clear that he was IN the residence without consent, and by making the statements that the lights were on and he went in with the intention to "check on things" should have met both the requirements for intent and the actual act. There was no question he was in the residence and he admitted he went in for a reason...that should have covered both parts.

I don't think that the Assistant State's Attorneys did anything less than any other attorney would have in this case. They used every piece of evidence, as well as his own admission of and regret for entering the residence, and the jury STILL bought the sleepwalking defense.

As a parent of a child who occasionally sleepwalks, I find it impossible to buy the story that a child wakes, makes a decision to do something, falls back asleep, then gets up and contunies to follow through with the decision. It just doesn't work that way, sorry.

The State's Attorney doesn't file charges based on "mere speculation". They file them based on police reports, victim statements and investigations. And yes, I think the ASA's did a great job!

As for evidence in this case, yes, there was ample evidence to file charges. And yes, I was there for a large portion of the hearings. The burglary and the criminal sexual assault charges may be subject to intent and interpretation on the jury's part, but there's no denying he was trespassing.

I also wonder about the "star power". He had a President of the College testifying to how great of a guy he is, and about 5 others; his attorney wasn't some local guy, but a out-of-towner who had some pizzazz; and simply the fact that the College is something we value and to find fault with a high-ranking faculty member would tarnish the reputation.

Just think, this case will be used now as precedent for future hearings that people try to use sleepwalking as a defense. GREAAATTTT

I guess I do not understand the jury and I guarantee it would have been a hung jury if I was on it because there is no way he was NOT in her house! "

lojack wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:48 PM:

" Steve Ferguson did a fine job at cross examination in the Ernest Rose case. I think that the training paid for by us worked. Look, I am neither a Ferguson, Komada or Reardon supporter. I am truly undecided. But the model that Reardon goes by will not work. Getting rid of assistants is not the answer. If you think that the State Attorneys office is bogged down now, wait until Todd Reardon is running the show by himself. "

Mama says wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:53 AM:

" I lost faith in SA offices, DCFS, and Mental Health since 1994 when a mother was given her children back repeatedly and her boyfriend the abuser. Even when DCFS had case, she pick him up from jail,
to take him to work, get him and to her home for lunch. In newspaper showed when car burnt parked in front of her brothers house which she had moved into and he was there also.
When cut paper piece out and gave, I was called SELF RIGHTEOUS. Good grief. "

sapient wrote on Oct 29, 2008 2:42 AM:

" TQ: Maybe there's hope for you yet. LOL "

85CHSGrad wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:43 AM:

" Where was Steve Ferguson on this one? "

Harry Potter wrote on Oct 29, 2008 7:04 AM:

" Did Henken testify as to this guys character? If so, I would question any thing he said, considering that Henken did everything he could to hide anything negative about EIU. This guy was, in my opinion, a cover-up artist. Anyone having any contact with the EIU police department or housing is well aware of what I'm talking about. "

Mom of Boys wrote on Oct 29, 2008 11:50 AM:

" You can not blame the jury. They only hear what the SA office brought to them. Why wasn't Furguson involved? Too Busy!!! There are alot of things in this case that I'm sure were not even discussed in the courtroom. "

injustice85 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 11:51 AM:

" lets give fergie a pat on the back lol "

Mike P wrote on Oct 29, 2008 2:35 PM:

" Read some of the stuff out there Pellegrino has said. The big case in Mass. was at bit more severe and complex than this. It followed a night of heavy drinking, and room to room in a college dorm. Defendant even collected bras panties and other things, as the event unfolded.

Hired gun says, its all about establishing how out of carachter this is for the sleepwalker, when they are awake. Had this SA known there was such a thing called Google, he might have been more prepared for this case. This hired lawyer has been news court/legal commentator, on a few channels, since his huge aquittal. several articles in various publications, detailing his defense strategy and methods. It seems that case was around 2002, some of the info isn't dated clear.

I do draw conclusions, from the stated facts. Defendant was in home illegaly. Its not argued the residents were asleep at the time of the incident, so their not being focused and clear, in a confusing situation, should be semi under standable. Defendant and neighbor evidently knew each other by name. Perhaps she thought she was having a weird dream, when the neighbor shows up crawling and kneeling on your bedroom floor, and whatever else transpired. Unless he was kidnapped by aliens, and mistakenly teleported to her bedroom, or some act of nature picked him up and dropped him there, he should not have been there. No excuses, no qualms, if he has mental issues out of his control to allow this to happen, he may need to wear a monitor. If this was your house, or your daughters house, understanding for the sleepwalking excuse, would be pretty thin. Crazy is not a free pass. If he knew he was a sleepwalker, and did nothing to prevent him leaving his property, when he did it, he is guilty. This defense should have been picked appart. His outline is on sites all over the place, it could have been picked appart, before the defense even called their first witness. He specializes in finding holes in prosecution witness stories. How many people are going to be sleeping, where they should be, be soken up by something quite troubling, and be clear and focused, from the moment they hear the noise, until the police are called and questions answered. Many I know, would have to have a few cups of coffee, before they could focus on reading it in the paper.

This Pro, markets a sleepwalking defense. His lawfirm has it in their adds. Since when did sleep studies even become sound court evidence. Many of them, are done with mail order degrees or certificates. There were holes in the defens, printed in the paper, the prosecution failed to convince a jury of them, and underline the law. "

jackson wrote on Oct 29, 2008 7:48 PM:

" Mike P....could you please go to the Adult Education Center in Mattoon, assuming you are an adult, and learn basic spelling, punctuation, and grammar? You're killing me! Even if what you were saying made any sense at all, I would not give it any credibility with all of the ridiculous errors. "

jackson wrote on Oct 29, 2008 8:00 PM:

" Jo....it sounds like your mind was made up before the trial ever began. It is for that reason you would not have been part of the jury!

You keep saying here was no way he was not in her house, but being in the house can be excused by the same defense as attempted sexual abuse and burglary. If there was no intent and he was sleepwalking with no knowledge of where he was, what law was broken? It is fairly obvious many of the posts on here are friends of the alleged victim or foes of the State's Attorney with their own agenda. "

blackhawk wrote on Oct 29, 2008 11:12 PM:

" I hope this guy paid a load in attorney fees, because that is the only justice in this case. It is not the SA. the police, or the victims fault. A gullible jury is to blame. Who could trust our youth at EIU (especially female students) He needs to move on down the road. Good Riddance. Do the right thing Perry. "

Early Bird wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:58 AM:

" You keep saying here was no way he was not in her house, but.....

....................

I love it when a member of the spelling police squad like jackson comes along with their criticism, and turn around and say something like the above.

I seem to recall another person from the past that had problems with spelling and grammar, anyone remember JFK? I'll bet the local spelling cops would have beat him up to. lol....

I also think with all of the info available on the Net it would be easy to find many other brilliant minds who likewise weren't the best at spelling and using all the proper grammatical rules. etc. I suspect Mike P is in good company.

I wonder if people like our friend jackson would be happy if the monitor added spelling,

And not to be too harsh, jackson, I actually agree with the sentiment you expressed in that particular post. And you are welcome to point out any of my errors, because, I'm sure they won't be hard to find. "

jackson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:28 AM:

" Good catch Early Bird. I missed that in my proof reading of my own post before I hit the "post comment" button. In my own defenses, the "t" on my keyboard has an issue and does not always register....I still should have caught it.

I appreciate your support for the premise I expressed in my second post. I hate to see warped and seemingly biased personal agendas get in the way of common sense, as they have in many of the posts related to this trial. "

motherof1 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:19 PM:

" I just have to say to 85CHSGrad and sapient, my husband is a good example of the injustice in this county. My husband just happens to be at Charleston's Wal-Mart the same night that some idiots had stole some electronics through the garden center where they made a hole in the fence. So I guess because my husband noticed the whole and was looking at it that makes him guilty even though there is no evidence of him stealing anything. And to add insult to injury, the same kind of robbery happened at Mattoon's Wal-Mart and they have people who pleaded guilty. Yet my husband is still being dragged into court and meanwhile his reputation has been affected. All his attorney Lutz wants him to do is plead out to avoid jail time on a crime he never commited. We don't come from a lot of money so hiring a good lawyer is not an option available to us. I have lost total faith in our judicial system and I just want to scream from the top of my lungs that this is unfair! Does anybody have any advise on how to get this to go away!??? My family has suffered so terribly. "

Rotty wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:58 PM:

" Psst.... Hey Todd, if the election don't pan out, check out the post at 10/30/08 @ 12:19 PM.
Cha-Ching!
LOL! "

61912 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:37 PM:

" Oh Rotty....you never cease to make my day...LOL, I almost spit my coke on the screen!!

Glad to see you back posting some, not as much as before but still some is better than not at all!! ;-) "

Mike P wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:37 PM:

" I get censored rather often, lately. I posted on a related thread the actual issue at play here, it didn't survive to meet some standards, evidently.

The bottom line in this case was, is a know condition, where precautions aren't taken to prevent breaking the law, the same as simply suddenly not being conscious and aware at the time they were breaking the law. Many places in this country, they won't check to see if you are awake, before unloading both barrels on someone in their house or business, that isn't supposed to be. People who know they have mental issues of an intermittent nature like this, still should be accountable for their actions outside their own home.

Its complex and too big a gray area, to keep allowing these kinds of ooops I sleepwalked, forgot to take my pills, took the wrong pills, drank with my pills, drank too much, or simply have a history of one or more of the above, so I can claim occasional instances where when I do someting that is illegal, it was not me, it was my issue. Its safe to say, these are rare cases, we may have some attempts to sneek one by here and there.

This jury based its findings on the information provided in court. The defense was probably the most famous for perfecting this defense at trial, there is. Our prosecution, was not up to defining and justifying upholding the laws it took this case to trial on. If we find ourselves at a place where a myriad of psychologists, doctors, or health care professionals can simply write a note and felonies get turned a blind eye to, its a flaw in the system, that weakens it. It shouldn't be illegal to be crazy, half crazy, or occasionaly not be aware of your actions. When it infringes on another individuals rights, to protect someone who broke the law, its deffinately not justice at work, its enabling bad behavior.

We place our trust in the SA office to uphold the law. To do this, they must know the law, understand the law, and know how to apply the law effectively.

Perhaps law enforcement, needs to begin every case, on the premise the suspect was not competent at the time of the crime. Drug, alcohol testing and now sleep studies may need to be part of the interrogation process, immediately after a criminal is caught red handed. Carefull attention needs to be paid to more small details, that can define intent and knowledge of actions being criminal. Simply having a criminal caught in the act, is not evidently enough to get a conviction on.

Had this case not been prosecuted, it could have been the first of an increasingly criminal pattern of behavior. It is good the victim pressed charges, and headed that possibility off some. Now that this is an established fact, he "sleepwalked" into someone elses home, and was in their bedroom while they were sleeping. What is to prevent this from happening again. What message is sent, by this failure of the SA office to sell its own case it took to trial, after almost two years of preparation.

I personally feel that people with some conditions, need to take steps to confine their mental issues to their own property, and homes. If they are a risk to themselves or others, they should be required to.

If this had been a childs bedroom, the defendant was discovered in, this would have taken a much different tone. If the couple woke up, and the defendant was rehanging their pictures, I might have bought the year later change of story, to he was sleepwalking. This did not add up, and the prosecution was soundly beaten, for not being up to the challenges of this cases defense.

The SA should have tried it, and used a couple assistants to assist. We can't let hired guns, specializing in any specific defense, walk on our legal system and rights. Prosecutions, need to be based on sound laws, and cases like this would take some extra effort to show up an expert lawyer, at his own game. Laws were boken, defendant concedes, but has a preexisting condition that makes him immune to any punishment. I don't believe the laws represent that scenario, but if they do, there is probably little legal recourse. "

85CHSGrad wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:01 PM:

" I get censored rather often, lately
=========================

Damage Control! "

Jo wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:30 PM:

" Jackson, what I was getting at is simply that there WAS intent. He stated that he went into her home to "check things out".

I am not a friend of anyone involved in this case. I do not know the victim nor do I know the assailant. I am someone who is concerned about the town I live in and the boundaries of our legal system.

As for being picked on a jury or not, I did not have any preconceived notions as I didn't know much about the case prior to trial.

Each charge had to have intent and action as elements and those had to be proven beyond a doubt. The charge of trespassing is the one I have a hard time seeing how a rational person could miss both the intent and the action.

Sleepwalking still is a defense that I do not buy. If he was well-known for making moves during his sleep, precautions should have been in place to keep him safe, as well as anyone else.

However, I don't buy that someone sleepwalking will have the forethought to cover the alarm clock which was the only source of light in the room. That supports criminal intent.

Also, why did he know that her back door was unlocked? She distinctly locked it...but he knew to go to it and lock it before he left. Ummm, he came in through the front door...so he'd have no reason to know the back door was unlocked...especially if he were asleep.

Just my thoughts. "

Harry Potter wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:11 PM:

" We don't need to have trials here in Coles county. We seem to have a lot of folks who know more than those in the legal system right here on this web site. Let's just post the details and let the sage posters on here decide the outcome. Think of the money we could save. Maybe my property taxes would go down. "

Rotty wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:21 PM:

" Hi, 61912, & Thanks!
LOL

After trying to post a few comments critical of some of our beloved big-wigs & the local rag, & having them tossed aside & never making it, I decided to take a breather from posting.

Now, after getting my crew healthy from the stomach flu, then after work today, I decided to make an appearance & come out swinging.
LOL

Good to see you posting again, as well.
;-)
Take Care,
~Rotty

Have a Happy & Safe Halloween Everyone!
:-) "

 



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