" I thought this was one of the best letters in weeks. Just because someone is a Democrat does not mean that they are not religious, it does not mean that they don't support the soldiers, and it does not mean that they are for abortion and for same sex marriages. Often, Republicans and others try to define what a Democrat is, but it is lumping someone into a category and assuming way too much. In each party, there are liberal Repubs and conservatice Dems. In the last two comments, Mary points out that Repubs have held office the last eight years as our leader, and that it is our choice for a change, if we so desire. I just hope the elections don't get rigged, because that would be my worst fear. "

" If Republicans are SO concerned about abortion and gay rights, why then after having FULL CONTROL of Congress for 12 years, after having FULL CONTROL of the White House for 8 years and after having a conservative supreme court ---- did the NOT do anything about Roe vs Wade?

I'll tell you why -- they wouldn't have ANY issue to RUN on except maybe, "he'll raise your taxes" - if they ever did do something about them.

http://coonsey.wordpress.com/ "

" Good Question, but it's been asked over and over with no response. "

" AYNIL: But why would someone who does not agree with the major points in the party platform want to be a member of that party? "

" Coonbug & HP: Good question, but maybe it's because they realize that they don't have the support in the supreme court to get it done. Hopefully they will someday and the mass slaughter of innocent babies will stop. "

" The current bank crisis is actually the result of the Clinton administration passing federal legislation requiring banks to reduce their loan restrictions for minorities because he believed everyone in America had the right to own a home.

I agree, only if they are willing to work for it. But there are those who believe that everyone is entitled to equality in everything. I disagree.

The realization is that all people are not equal in work ethics and/or income and some believe they are entitled to be taken care of and that living in a free America means that everything is "free".

I don't trust Obama because of the circle he runs with and McCain is scary as well. Who is the worst evil? Considering where Obama is coming from I'd have to lean toward McCain.

I feel like I'm votin' for an Illinois governor all over again...and we see where that got us. You think it can't get any worse than with Bush just check out the Illinois political system. "

" "Its like Sarah Palins statement she believes in abstinence and birth control. (or, maybe its just the first one) I dont really pay that much attention to the rhetoric."

This sentence speaks for itself. It's like the sports fan who roots for a team because their uniforms are pretty.

Nuff said. "

" Smoke and mirrors has worked well for the Republican machine for years. Lazy Americans want to have their politics spoon fed. Just follow the heard. We don't want to have to do the research and actually form an opinion of our own. "

" Coonbug. The answer to your question is the Republicans don't want issues like abortion, gun rights, gay rights to go away. As long as those issues are up for debate the one issue voters will vote Republican. "

" Mr. Miller isn't that why people are for Palin,"because she is pretty", "because she is a wife and mother", "because they think she opposes abortion" (yet if she wasn't lying through her teeth to Couric, she supports a womans right to choose though she would strongly counsel a woman not to abort). You condemn one group for doing what the other group also does. "

" Yes, Palin is pretty. Pretty darned ignorant. "

" Lazy Americans want to have their politics spoon fed. Just follow the heard. We don't want to have to do the research and actually form an opinion of our own. "

julio wrote on Oct 2, 2008 7:44 AM:

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You've summed up the reason for the success of the Fox News channel, julio.
Why bother to think, when Fox will do it for you? "

" I do not believe any one has said there is no such thing as a christian democrat, but one must ask if the democratic positions on these social issues align with biblical principles. I am not talking about Ms. Humphreys principles because, quite frankly, her principles are relative to whatever she might be thinking. I have not read anywhere in the bible that secular humanism is an acceptable replacement for biblical teachings.

As far as Obama's stand on abortion and gay marriage, the author needs to conduct more research into his statements. You are obviously listening to Obama's rhetoric.

Smoke and mirrors, what about the democrats ability to stir the class warfare debate. Rich vs poor. Intelligence vs ignorance. Employed vs unemployed. Home owner vs renter. The fact that the Fannie and Freddie problems are democrat caused.

Society is not unlike your personal life in that many decisions you make today will affect the rest of your life. We are living with decisions that have been made starting with the New Deal programs from the depression era. Once the government gets involved we can never get them out. "

" I'm sure there are some people who support Gov. Palin for the reasons you stated, Susan. Just as I'm sure people support Obama because he is Black, young, and a dynamic speaker. Watch the video of Maverick's forward Josh Howard endorsing Obama, during the National Anthem.

Both sides use abortion, gay marriage, guns, etc... as scare tactics to drum up support. Do not just try to blame the GOP. "

" neither pres. can fix the abortion issue, neither pres. can fix the economic issue, palin is lucky she knows her own name or so it seems, therefore since McCain votes the same way as Bush any change from that is a good one, could it seriously get worse than Bush? probably not so yes i vote obama-biden too "

" ed miller wrote on Oct 2, 2008 1:40 AM:

This sentence speaks for itself. It's like the sports fan who roots for a team because their uniforms are pretty.

Nuff said. """"

yep....republicans always like "pretty". there isn't anything upstairs, but she's pretty. kinda reminds me of the "valley girl" phenomenon. "

" father bob wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:46 PM:

"yep....republicans always like "pretty". there isn't anything upstairs, but she's pretty. kinda reminds me of the "valley girl" phenomenon. "


Oh, so they picked Obama because of his qualifications? He's the political version of a Boy Band. "

" "Oh, so they picked Obama because of his qualifications?"
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Well, now, I grant you Obama wasn't a beauty queen like Palin, or an admiral's son and grandson like McCain, or a cheerleader like Bush. He only became the president of the Harvard Law Review by his own efforts. What a lightweight, eh? "

" Honestly Techman where have you been there was a Letter to the Editor a few days ago that said rightout Christians can not be Democrats. I at least stick to my principles, all people deserve fair and equal treatment under the law. I understand that this may be a principle you are unfamiliar with and find difficult to comprehend. "

" They are now working on their tent folding merrit badges as well. McCain is noticing poll numbers, and has begun to retreat. So far its Michigan, but count on bigger portions of the circus to retreat into his few remaining strong holds. Nader just may have a chance to get more votes than McCain if this trend continues. I guess the only time this guy is in something for the long haul, is if it is overseas, and someone else is actually doing the fighting for his cause. "

" You are right I have not read every letter this week as some of them do not interest me. I will say that it is hard to support democratic candidates if one tries to base their beliefs on the bible.

I too agree that everyone should be treated fair and equal as humans, but not all behaviors deserve equal treatment. Falling into one of your traps, I wonder how one would justify the gay lifestyle based on evolution. Is not the gay person eliminating themself from nature? Or how about abortion? If the greatest majority of abortions have been from a minority race, have they not just reduced their power and influence? Maybe this is why some people are such strong advocates of them. "

" Both sides use abortion, gay marriage, guns, etc... as scare tactics to drum up support. Do not just try to blame the GOP. "

As usual, eddie, you got it all wrong. Those are bread and butter issues used to stir up the lower class and poorly educated Republicans. Nothing personal ed, but I would imagine that would several who post on here. "

" So Potter,

You are going on record saying ONLY the GOP use the hot-button issues to scare people into voting their side? The Dems NEVER do that, correct? "

" Why did the NOT do anything about Roe vs Wade?

It would be almost impossible to overturn Roe V Wade without a contitutional amendment. "

" Really

Equality is one thing, Rights are another. "

" Techman haven't you ever heard of people carrying a trait that doesn't exhibit itself in that person? Couldn't the same be true with a "gay gene"? Couldn't homosexuality be mother natures form of natural birth control, a way to limit population growth? Homosexuality is just as natural as heterosexuality, for some. "

" Susan

Homosexuality just is not natural, if it was, women would be able to have children without a mans help and men would be able to also. Without men and women getting together, there is no population, period. "

" Honestly Medic grow up. Learn to read. Notice I said "for some". There are other Animals exhibiting homosexual behavior, it isn't unique to humans. AND because what is natural for one is unnatural for another, is why Pauls comment in Romans can't be read as condemning homosexual behavior. That comment, if you read it carefully, is actually about bisexual behavior, and wild sexual orgies, you might say. Isn't Biblical scholarship wonderful, we can learn so much from unbiased scholars. It makes you wonder what else in the Bible has been mistranslated and misinterpreted. "

" You have to wonder just how firmly her christian beliefs are if her party of choice is in general opposition to them and she has no problem supporting their platform. The democrats have led the fight for abortion rights and same-sex marriage for years and apparently her religious beliefs take a back seat to her political leanings. "

" Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer has conceded the election to Obama, admitting that Obama has "...both a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament. That will likely be enough to make him president." "

" lawmakers were threatened with marshal law??.....geeeezzzzz.

this administration will stoop to anything. the scarey thing is, bush and cheney would love to do it and suspend the elections. "

" The Question wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:40 PM:

" Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer has conceded the election to Obama, admitting that Obama has "...both a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament. That will likely be enough to make him president." "


Guess there's no reason for anyone to vote then, is there? "

" Personally I think it would be great to have a President who is capable of abstract thought.

If McCain were elected Mrs. Palin might have to step in.

Her inability to answer intelligent questions with any kind of meaningful information is obvious.

After last nights debate I feel the Republican Ticket is even more of an insult to anyone with an IQ over 80.

I have to look at my Republican relatives and friends supporting this campaign as small town back water idiots.

The answers I get from them when I ask questions concerning the choice are ignorantly laughable.

It actually looks like Americans may pass their IQ test for the first time in 8 years.

Im sure God doesnt have a party and if he did I doubt they would be a bunch of lying criminals. "

" Oh, a coupe more things.

In this state in the national election you can vote for whomever you want but most of the time the Democrats are going to win.

Chicago has a bunch of middle class, poor and well-educated people who vote for themselves. Can you blame them? It seems like the smart thing to do. "

" "Guess there's no reason for anyone to vote then, is there?"
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No reason for youto vote anyway, Ed. Relax and stay home. "

" Have you decided who to vote for yet, ed? "

" it's nice to know how you feel about Harvard grads ed miller, that just says something about your character "

" Actually, this "smoke and mirrors" is the scariest thing about the GOP. I know that they want to get votes, but it seems like every McCain/Palin ad I see is a white lie. Why not give themselves some credibility by trying to win the vote by doing something good for the people? Instead, the GOP seems to not realize how much we are hurting now and how much people need help. We have got good, hard-working people here, we just need a good, hard-working government to return the favor and reward us for our goodwill and actions. "

" smoke, mirrors, lies, corruption etc, etc. "

" By MICHAEL COOPER
Published: October 4, 2008
SEDONA, Ariz. Stepping up the Republican tickets attacks on Senator Barack Obama, Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday seized on a report about Mr. Obamas relationship with a former 1960s radical to accuse him of palling around with terrorists.


This is not a man who sees America as you see it, and how I see America, Ms. Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, said in Colorado, according to a pool report. We see America as the greatest force for good in this world. If we can be that beacon of light and hope for others who seek freedom and democracy and can live in a country that would allow intolerance in the equal rights that again our military men and women fight for and die for all of us.

Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that hes palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.

The article to which she referred, in The New York Times on Saturday, traced Mr. Obamas sporadic interactions with Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weathermen who later became an education professor in Chicago and worked on education projects there with Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president.

The article said: A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers.

Ms. Palin seized on their relationship after the campaign of Senator John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, said it planned to shift its strategy and try to turn the campaign into a referendum on Mr. Obama.

Well, I was reading my copy of todays New York Times and I was interested to read about Baracks friends from Chicago, Ms. Palin said at the fund-raiser in Englewood, Colo. Turns out one of Baracks earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol. Wow. These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes.

The Obama campaign responded by noting that McCain officials had been quoted as saying that they hoped to turn the page on the fiscal crisis, which has hurt Mr. McCains standing in the polls, and to devote more time to attacking Mr. Obama.

Governor Palins comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaigns statement this morning that they would be launching Swift-boat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nations economic ills, said Hari Sevugan, an Obama spokesman. Whats clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.
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Simple translation:

Old John with his under qualified and outspoken VP pick now realise they can't win on their merits and ideas so they will turn this campaign into a mud slinging, swift-boating, gutter dwelling affair.

John will stop at nothing to get the job he thinks he is owed, and the self promoting scheming opportunist he has chose to help him will be a willing partner in this slimy new tactic.

As for guilt by association, perhaps Palin should be exploring her long time relationship with the indicted Ted Stevens. Stevens has done more damage to this country that has Bill Ayers, who has managed to turn himself around and has become an award winning educator. While Stevens has accomplished nothing more than to bring billions of dollars worth of Palin style pork to Alaska, and managed to enrich himself along the way, similar to what the multi-millionaire, former poor boy Dick Cheney has done through a series of back door deals while in Washington. It should be noted that Palin was doing ads for by friend right up until his indictment. Then, just like George W dumped the long time Bush family friend Ken Lay, she seems to have developed amnesia over her long time friendship and relationship with Stevens.

At one time, I had respect for John McCain for all that he had gone through personally in his military service of our country, but after seeing how low he is willing to sink, that respect has evaporated into to disgust.

I have to laugh when I think of McCain's comments about having an honorable and respectful campaign a few months ago. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:18 PM:
" Have you decided who to vote for yet, ed? "

Not really, pretty slim pickings. I thought abut Barr, mainly just to vote against the Dems/GOP and more of the same bickering. Someone mentioned Ted Nugent a while back and it's looking like a write-in. "

" What gives? I sort of had you figured for a Palin supporter, ed. "

" ...and right now Fox is running a special on how Obama is a terrorist.

Ayers, Farakhan, Chavez, Islamic Radicals, everyone -- Obama and Friends.

I cannot believe this is airing. I am literally stunned. Odd, just as if Fox was working in coordination with the McCain campaign. Gee, all this must be true. I'm telling you, Goebbels would be very proud of Hannity. "

" Actually Palin has me more inclined to vote for McCain. She has not been polluted by the partisan bickering in Washington for years like the others. I will probably vote McCain because I think he is the best chance for bi-partisanship. I would have considered Hillary, because she is stronger on defense than she will admit. I just can't bring myself to trust Obama. It's like he has spent his whole adult live striving to be President, and that is all he is about. "

" oh you know good old mr smiles Obama, he's a terrorist and a muslim and hates america and blah blah blah, i don't care who Barack Obama knows, John McCain knows george bush and he is our biggest terrorist yet! "

" "The article to which she referred, in The New York Times on Saturday, traced Mr. Obamas sporadic interactions with Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weathermen who later became an education professor in Chicago and worked on education projects there with Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president."
Oh my, Obama has been hanging around with a University of Illinois professor -- just confirms what the Right Wing always fears: association with people of intelligence and particularly, ug, univ professors. Remember the 1950s when univ professors in Illinois had to take an oath that they were not and never had been Communists -- but businessmen who had contracts with the State were excused.
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"I just can't bring myself to trust Obama. It's like he has spent his whole adult live striving to be President, and that is all he is about."
Ed Miller obviously has never read the McCain book in which he says that becoming president has AWAYS been his ambition, that he ran in 2000 not because of any particular principles but just because he wanted to be president. Working as a community organizer in south side Chicago would not ordinarily appear to be a path to the presidency. Come on Ed, open your mind and if necessary, actually read McCain's book, "Worth Fighting For". "

" McCain did a lot of fighting lol, to get his daddies approval lol "