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Monday, September 8, 2008 11:10 PM CDT
COLUMN: The media's been so busy cheerleading for Obama, they didn't see McCain coming



John McCain has erased Barack Obama’s lead in national polls. Monday’s Gallup tracking polls showed the GOP candidate for president leading his Democratic rival 48% to 45%.

Other polls show the two candidates tied or McCain with a razor-thin lead. One of the interesting things coming out of the Gallup poll is that among likely voters McCain leads Obama 54% to 44%.

Obama’s prospect for victory in November hinges to a large extent on getting younger voters to the polls. He has inspired them, but whether that translates into votes election day is a big “if.”

The national news media — which have largely been Obama’s cheerleader in the Democratic primaries and thus far in the presidential campaign — virtually coronated the Illinois senator president. Which may explain why it didn’t see McCain coming.

Obama is charismatic and a gifted orator. “My-friends-McCain” can’t read a speech — he hates the god teleprompter — but, what he lacks in eloquence he more than makes up in tenacity.

The Arizona senator has long been a thorn in the side of the Republican Party. Right-wing evangelists, self-anointed arbitrators of “family values,” despise him. McCain returns the favor.

The uneasy truce between the two during the primary season is already deteriorating. If McCain wins the presidency, he will have little reason to appease the right wing of the Republican Party or its clerics.

McCain is good at being a maverick. It’s in his blood, it’s what sustained him during the six years he was a POW in Vietnam. It’s what resurrected his campaign during the dark days of last August when pundits declared his campaign dead.

He can no more control the urge to rebel than the need to breathe. He has a sometimes savage temper which he has unleashed on occasion in a wash of profanity.

The story goes that when McCain’s mother discovered he cursed his jailers during his stay in Hotel Hanoi, she threatened to wash his mouth out with soap.

McCain admits he’s hot-headed. During debates, one of his staffer’s duties is to signal him to back off when he appears on the verge of exploding.

McCain enjoys a kinship with the 33rd president of the United States, Harry Truman, who was also famous for both temper and stubbornness.

The senator patterns himself after the 26th president of the U.S., Theodore Roosevelt, also possessor of high-temper –— an often obstinate human being.

McCain smells of intensity. He is a man who gets caught up in the things he champions. Dispassion rules not his heart.

The opposite is true of Obama, who sometimes explores an issue until he gets lost in it.

Obama is unconscious of his coolness and inability to unleash himself on an opinion. That is what makes him appear aloof to some.

The Illinois senator determined early to conduct his campaign in a civil manner, arguing the merits of the various issues, ranging from foreign affairs to the economy.

McCain and Obama are fire and water, opposites puzzled by each other’s personality. The two are men of honor. In that respect, they are alike and liked.

For such an intelligent man, Obama is sometimes oblivious to the obvious. He did not seriously consider putting Hillary Clinton on his ticket despite the fact she received over 18 million votes in the primaries — slightly exceeding Obama’s total — and came within an inch of winning the delegate vote.

In denying Clinton, Obama managed to offend the millions of women who supported Hillary. I think Obama underestimates how angry they are.

My sister, Georgia, who resides in Lander, Wyoming, a strong Democrat backer of Clinton, is angry. I had a long telephone discussion with her several nights ago in which she said she hadn’t decided whether to vote for Obama or go for McCain — which I found surprising.

Georgia dislikes Bush — more accurately, her feelings toward the president verge on hate.

Georgia is approximately a year and a half younger than me. We’ve always been close, having forged an alliance.

We think alike on many issues. Though I supported Bush on the war, the administration has really botched it since our troops rolled into Baghdad.

There is another reason Georgia is considering casting her vote for McCain — Sarah Palin. Like many women, she would like to see a woman elected president or vice president.

And being bitter over Obama’s rebuff of Clinton as a running mate, she reflects the feeling of some women in the Democratic Party. Estimates of how many female Hillary supporters might cast their votes for McCain range from more than 20% to below 5% percent.

Obama needs them all.

McCain did what McCain does when he named Palin as a running mate: what he’s not expected to do.

It was a daring move, picking the little-known governor of the largest state in the union — Alaska. McCain knew Palin would come under fire — which may have cemented the deal.

Palin, as expected, came under vicious attack from some quarters of the national news media. She had barely finished her acceptance speech before being damned for her husband’s DUI over 20 years ago and not staying home to care for her children, one of whom has Down Syndrome.

The media and bloggers piled on Palin’s pregnant 17-year-old daughter ad nauseam.

To her credit, Hillary Clinton rejected a request by the Obama camp that she be the attack dog against Palin.

And then again, Obama might be an invincible as he has been made out to be. Why attack another woman? If Obama loses, Clinton might well win the Democratic nomination in 2012.

It doesn’t make sense for her to attack a member of her strongest constituency.

If Obama is going to defeat McCain, he has to sharpen his attacks on McCain, scrap the lofty speeches and media spectacles and commit to the gritty, down-in-the-dirt, grunt work.

The risk in doing those things is they will commit Obama to something less than “change.”

As for “change,” McCain has seized it.


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Illinoisbound wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:15 AM:

" Maybe he (Obama) will ask Oprah to attack Palin for him. WEE WEE WEE all the way home! Maybe the press has nothing to do with it...maybe the citizens of this great nation are just not as DUMB as the press thinks! "

The Question wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:56 AM:

" What a load of codswallop, Harry. The corporate media isn't reporting on the shady banking dealings of McCain's son Andrew, probably because, after all, his father was a POW. The acorn doesn't fall far from the crooked Keating Five tree.
I also note that Obama got saddled with everything his minister ever said, for weeks, while the corporate media has done nothing to examine Palin's whack job, theocratic church. "

Julio wrote on Sep 9, 2008 7:24 AM:

" Obama's hardly been a blip on Fox news radar. They also ignored the current state of the economy, bad news about the war, and everything else negative about the Republican party. Yes, when you talk about bias in the media Fox stands far above the crowd. "

coonbug wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:23 AM:

" Harry, please show us where you have proof that Barack Obama ask Hillary Clinton to attack Sarah Palin?

Every convention receives a bounce Harry to imply otherwise is unethical of you. As for the USATODAY/Gallup poll out of all of them that is really off and you know it.

The news media coronated Obama? Excuse me? They tried their level best to coronate Hillary Clinton. Dont you remember since 2000 when Bill Clinton left office how the media would predict Hillary would run for President in either 2004 or 2008? Its the breaking news that Barack Obama, out of nowhere, was able to BEAT the Clinton dynasty -- that caught the medias attention Harry. Get the facts straight please.

If two candidates are running and one gets thousands of viewers and the other gets a few hundred --- which candidate is MAKING news Harry, youre the reporter?

The uneasy truce between the two during the primary season is already deteriorating. the GOP seemingly LOVE McCain now, although his hero status meant nothing in 2000. McCain is no maverick now hes their next lapdog.

McCain smells of intensity. He is a man who gets caught up in the things he champions. Dispassion rules not his heart.

The opposite is true of Obama, who sometimes explores an issue until he gets lost in it.

Harry, your preference is SHOWING for a Democrat you sound more and more like Joe Lieberman.

For such an intelligent man, Obama is sometimes oblivious to the obvious. He did not seriously consider putting Hillary Clinton on his ticket despite the fact she received over 18 million votes in the primaries slightly exceeding Obamas total and came within an inch of winning the delegate vote.

Harry you have no idea how seriously or not Obama considered Hillary so please quit implying that you do. Nobody knows the truth except for Obamas team. As for Hillary getting MORE votes --- WRONG. You are not counting caucuses because there is no way of knowing the popular vote from them. Please quit putting out false information like this.

By talking about your sister you are once trying to stir the pot it wont work. There are now according to polls, only about 5% of Hillary supporters holding back compared to over 20 a month ago.

John McCain did not pick Sarah Palin the GOP did. Its been reported that McCain preferred other people but was forced to go toward Palin. Palin was picked months ago during the Dems primary thats why she had several interviews discussing pipelines this year.
John McCain has NOT seized CHANGE --- good God Harry, how can a man that voted over 90% of Bushs policies even think he is a form of CHANGE? Same goes for a woman thats policies lean even more toward Bush.

Why dont you just write 4 words Harry? Why bother writing all those lies or exaggerations? Just say what you mean Vote for McCain/Palin! "

The Question wrote on Sep 9, 2008 10:34 AM:

" Unnecessary war spending and tax breaks have plunged the Bush federal budget into a huge deficit, with the national debt expected to reach $11 trillion when Bush leaves office. America's children and grandchildren will be burdened with this debt, which will lower their standard of living as their tax dollars are drained away to repay it, or to merely to pay the INTEREST on it.
The current trade accounts imbalance is some $400 billion, by far the highest in the world, because Bush has allowed and ENCOURAGED good American jobs to move offshore to low-wage countries. The three million jobs that have been lost under Bush are being replaced, if at all, with low-paying service jobs. Suck it up and clean up that mess, America. You're a nation of servants.
Those twin deficits force this nation to borrow money to cover the imbalance and since Americans now have LESS THAN NO savings, the money must come from China, Japan and so forth. In fact, the U.S. must borrow $3 billion every single day to finance its two deficits. Meanwhile, the Bush administration continues to bail out major corporations with more borrowed taxpayer billions. That's called "free enterprise," if you're really stupid enough to fall for it.
Do you hear something ticking? Because I do. It's the Republican Economic Depression time bomb. Maybe Obama can defuse it. Maybe. But you can be sure that McBush and the Moose Lady won't even try.
Why? Because the rich people whose bidding they do will survive whatever happens here just fine. Their economic fate is no longer tied to what happens to the United States. Is yours? "

The Question wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:29 AM:

" So the extramarital affairs of a liberal populist who ISN'T running are of 24-7 interest to the corporate media. But the extramarital affairs of a right-wing Bible nut who IS running on a family values/morality platform are not? Why is that? "

even steven wrote on Sep 9, 2008 12:17 PM:

" If the mainstream media was actually reporting rather than churning our partisan propaganda, then there would have been more digging into the Chicago Annenberg Challenge files and scrutiny of Barak Obama's ties to Weatherman terrorist, William Ayers. In recent developments, it seems that the Obama campaign was tipped off by the President of University of Illinois at Chicago about requests to examine the Annenburg files and that portions of those files may have been scrubbed.

The Obama camp is worried about those files coming to light... and rightfully so. They expose Obama for the corrupt, pay-to-play, Chicago-style crooked politician that he is. The media is in the bag for him, but that could change quickly. "

The Question wrote on Sep 9, 2008 1:37 PM:

" A maverick is just a cow that's too stupid to go home, Harry. "

injustice85 wrote on Sep 9, 2008 8:36 PM:

" wow another horrible piece of writing lol! didn't see McCain coming because we've already seen McCain here for 8 years! "

Mike P wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:07 PM:

" Republicans didn't see him comming. This guy is so all over the place on everything in five different directions at the same time, he could be standing in a hall of mirrors, and not see himself comming.

Once the post convention bounce fades, and the polished resume' has lost some of the opening day speech luster, the crowds will fade and interviews will be sought, rather than denied.

So far they are a one hit wonder cover band. They have been replaying one speech on every station, stage, or soap box that will give them the chance to. It was a good speech, the first day. Overplay has it running rather thin.

Its been two weeks, of the same few already wornout, and many disproven lines. The number two, drawing the crowd, is genuine interest in who this new person is. People do get excited over new packaging to products. Excitement fades, and eventually either it is what it says, or it isn't. Clever lines, and recycled speeches, are transparent to many, and will be to most.

There are those that would buy any product whatever the cost, as long as it has their parties label on it. A majority of people judge people, based a litle more on substance, and less on what they simply say, they now suddenly represent whole heartedly.

Two weeks after her introduction, there might be an interview given. How its conducted, how controlled the environment is, and how scripted the questions and answers seem, mean just as much as anything she might actually say. At home in Alaska, she may be able to be herself. It might be shes just scared of exposure down in the lower 48. We might eventually see if she is what she says, or is just someone that knows how to say what shes told to. "

gringa wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:10 PM:

" It's not that I don't agree with what you are saying here, Harry. You know I do. It's just that I don't see the benefit of my jumping into this bucket of shxt to try to counter the leftist mantra in these naive postings. This online thing has almost become a total waste of time. No original thoughts are coming from the left. No independent approaches are coming from the left. It's all about pushing a socialist agenda with the same old tired words from the left, and the same old bitterness of the glass half empty. LOL, and they call it *change*. "

sister wrote on Sep 9, 2008 10:44 PM:

" Harry, I do not know how you can say the media has been a cheerleader for Obama......He has been a big crowd pleaser, and a very good politician, but the media has tried every which way to take him down. And not just the blogs. Because he has been so good at what he does, the media has ripped him every which way, upside down, and inside out. And you find it amusing that McCain has picked a woman, without vetting her, to be his vp. What are your priorities? She could be a heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world, and you are not noticing she doesn,t talk to the media. Is that a good thing for our country. Palin needs for media to come down on her HARD. Time is short and you should be demanding that she be vetted thoroughly. Where is the media????? "

Martha K. Yeakel wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:44 PM:

" Very good column, Mr. Reynolds. For the correct internet story on Sarah Palin, go to factcheck.org, a non-partisan website. (Coonbug, I bet you believed those polls when they showed Obama in the lead).####/Gringa, you are absolutely right...when a decent argument is laid out for readers to study and think about, we immediately start getting all the crap thrown out that has nothing to do with said argument. There is no debate to be had. "

Early Bird wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:21 AM:

" Birds of a feather?

Palin's name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.," a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings. Palin's relationship with Alaska's senior senator may be one of the more complicated aspects of her new position as Sen. John McCain's running mate; Stevens was indicted in July 2008 on seven counts of corruption.

Palin, an anti-corruption crusader in Alaska, had called on Stevens to be open about the issues behind the investigation. But she also held a joint news conference with him in July, before he was indicted, to make clear she had not abandoned him politically. Stevens had been helpful to Palin during her run for governor, swooping in with a last moment endorsement. And the two filmed a campaign commercial together to highlight Stevens's endorsement of Palin during the 2006 race. Shortly after Palin was announced as McCain's vice presidential pick, the ad was removed from her gubernatorial campaign web site. However, it's still available on YouTube:







A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has accused Stevens of concealing on financial disclosure statements lucrative gifts from the now-defunct oil company Veco and its top executives. At one point, Veco employees and contractors jacked up the senator's mountainside house on stilts and added a new first floor, with two bedrooms and a bathroom, the indictment says. Stevens became the first sitting U.S. senator to face criminal charges in 15 years. He has adamantly denied the allegations. "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:38 AM:

" Referring to the governments bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Palin opined that the two had gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers, displaying abysmal ignorance of the fact that only now will those privately owned banks become a huge taxpayer obligation, as the federal government takes them over. Nor can the meltdown of home values be traced to those two beleaguered institutions, because they did not make the original subprime mortgage commitments.
The housing bubble was the result of the Ponzi-scheme antics of those other financial entities: commercial banks, stockbrokers and hedge funds, which were allowed in a GOP-deregulated market to get into the swap business.
Robert Scheer "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:15 AM:

" America is not merely for sale. It is a brothel. That's why its borders remain wide open, with a welcoming red light shining. This "citizenship" nonsense is an increasingly obvious joke. Come on in, there's always room for some fresh, young meat. "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 AM:

" What's the price of giving Republicans control of the White House for eight years and both houses of Congress for five of them? This.
Lehman Brothers, in a desperate bid to survive, announced plans Wednesday to sell a majority stake in its prized investment management business and said a sale of the entire company was possible.
Lehman, battling the nation's worst financial crisis since the Depression, also said it would spin off a troubled real estate unit and slash its dividend. "

Becky wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:02 PM:

" Gee Harry, I can picture you watching McCain on TV and you in your living room whooping and clapping for his blundering lies. Is this your journalistic professionalism showing again? Oh yeah, I forgot about the left leaning media. My bad. "

sapient wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:06 PM:

" TQ (BNA): A theocratic church. What a novel idea. It just might catch on. I hope so. LOL "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:07 PM:

" According to sources in Wasilla, Alaska, Palin tried to use her sway as mayor to censor the local library. Though then-librarian Mary Ellen Baker tells ABC News Palin didn't specifically ask her to censor any specific titles, journalist Paul Stuart attests that Baker, who was later fired, had named names. And - surprise! - one of the books had gay themes:
Stuart told PolitiFact that in a conversation with [Baker] after his article ran, she listed three titles. He said he could recall only two, and initially said they were I Told My Parents I'm Gay and I Asked My Sister. We looked for these titles; they don't appear to exist.
"Mary Ellen told me that Palin asked her directly to remove these books from the shelves," Stuart said. "She refused." "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:27 PM:

" Enlighten yourself, Martha. You need it badly.
---
McCain released a new TV ad Wednesday that suggests an Obama link to what the Web site FactCheck.org called "completely false ... misleading" attacks while failing to note that the source of the attacks were, according to the Web site, "Internet postings and mass e-mail messages," not the Obama campaign. "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 3:47 PM:

" Here's your Republican administration at work:
Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties improperly engaged in sex with employees of energy companies they were dealing with and received numerous gifts from them, federal investigators said Wednesday.
The alleged transgressions involve 13 former and current Interior Department employees in Denver and Washington. Their alleged improprieties include rigging contracts, working part-time as private oil consultants, and having sexual relationships with and accepting golf and ski trips and dinners from oil company employees, according to three reports released Wednesday by the Interior Department's inspector general. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:53 PM:

" gringa, I couldn't agree more. 10 out of 22 posts are by one poster who has been run so far off the rails by his hatred of all things Bush that he has probably had his yard cleared of any landscaping that isn't trees or grass. Any attempt to do anything but glamorize Obama and demonize McCain (and now Palin) is met with diatribes about everything that is wrong with the government. If HE isn't ranting, then his buddy is. There is no debate in this forum any longer. It wasn't always civil, but there used to be a bit of give and take; now it's all about shouting down those who hold views that don't mirror TQ and HP. I'm not a big fan of John McCain, but he isn't the second coming of George Bush. Not even close. Palin's not Cheney. I don't know as much about her as I'd like, but she seems to be a breath of fresh air. Her convention speech was written for her, granted, but she charmed many with her delivery of it. She's no less experienced than Obama, and she's not at the top of the ticket. She has some baggage that is coming to light, but the same ones who were outraged that anyone would question Obama's past or debts to the Chicago Machine are now frothing at the mouth to dig up any speck of dirt that they can on Sarah Palin. Relax, folks. No matter who wins this November, the country will take a definite tack to the left; the dems' control of congress is assured. The Question is, will it be a gentle banking turn on asphault, or an uncontrolled 80 mph panic turn on a gravel road? "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:00 PM:

" I'm sorry my posts make you uncomfortable, Dave. I'll grieve over that on long winter evenings. "

The Question wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:03 PM:

" " TQ (BNA): A theocratic church. What a novel idea. It just might catch on. I hope so. LOL "
----
Theocracy means rule of government by a god, Sap. I'm not surprised you would approve an idea that violates the most basic elements of a constitutional republic.
In practice, of course, because gods never speak or appear in public, theocracy means rule by some creep who claims to speak for a god. Some Republican creep, in this case. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:33 PM:

" Gee Dave, you're bring me down with that last whiny post. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:57 PM:

" Lately, I've watch the news media interview dozens of people who have known Sarah Palin since childhood or last least for many years. It struck me that the same has not been done for Obama, a candidate that is still relatively unknown outside the Chicago political machine. I find it interesting that so few people have appeared in the media who actually knew The Liberal Messiah at any of those early, murky moments in his rise to inevitability. No boyhood chums from Hawaii, no fellow law students, no beneficiaries of his inestimable work at Annenburg, no legal clients made whole, or constituents healed. Make no mistake: I dont doubt His divinity. But I do wonder who was allowed to touch the hem of his robe so many years before, at long last, He condescended to help the rest of us. Amen, and may Obama bless us all. "

Martha K. Yeakel wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 PM:

" Good points all, Dave. The only slight quibble I might have with you is the mention of Palin's speech being written by speechwriters. Aren't they always? But you have to be able to deliver. Otherwise you have hit the nail on the head as to the level of debate on these blogs. TQ has even resorted to continuing to repeat internet lies that have been disproved but why should I be surprised? And Ed, very good point that I hadn't thought of. Where are Obama's past friends and acquantices? (sp?) BESides REv. Wright, Bill Ayers and the Chicago gang, who did he hang with growing up and where are they? Which reminds me of how I was particularly struck by McCain's fellow veterans at the convention and the obvious bond that is still there after all these years. But I guess when you go through what they did, that is not surprising. I have not been a big fan of McCain but he deserves credit for making the bold move that Obama did not have the guts to make. "

The Question wrote on Sep 11, 2008 6:42 AM:

" Palin, who is afraid to be interviewed or even answer questions from the voters, would be fine if she were running for the job of driving your kids to hockey practice. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 11, 2008 7:05 AM:

" TQ has even resorted to continuing to repeat internet lies that have been disproved....

And what lies would that be?

About everything I've seen about the Godzilla-like Palin has been documented by several sources. Of course we're still waiting for the full report of Palins alleged romances, but the troopergate story, firings of Wasilla department heads who didn't support her re-election, connection to the disgraced Ted Stevens, lies about her beauty contest results, car wash ownership incident etc, have documented. And this is just a small portion of the claims being made about her. As has been noted, a new scandal a day comes out about this woman. She must be keeping the folks at Fox news busy in the spin room. LOL!


I'm glad to see you're on board with the issue of Internet lies, Marty. I look forward to your comments about the Internet lies that have been and continue to told about Obama. Oh wait, you don't do that, do you? "

The Question wrote on Sep 11, 2008 7:24 AM:

" After eight years of Republicans in the White House and five years of Republicans controlling Congress as well, not to mention the Supreme Court, the U.S. is despised worldwide. The stock market is tanking. Yet another major bank is about to collapse. The Iraq occupation is stalled and the Iraqi government is gridlocked while we spend $3 billion a week there. Afghanistan is falling apart. Military suicides are at record levels. Unemployment has shot up. The federal deficit is monstrous, and the national debt will soon hit $10 trillion. The U.S. tortures and secretly imprisons people without rights. And we may have just ignited a new cold war.
And what are we talking about? Porcine lipstick. People stupid and willfully ignorant enough to be fooled by such transparent political tricks deserve every horror thats coming to them, but the rest of us dont.
The alarm has already gone off, America. Its way past time to wake up. "

Becky wrote on Sep 11, 2008 7:49 AM:

" Mary, neither did Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Kristol, Rice, or any other croney in power today. And there was a war going on when they were young. They all dodged the draft because they were all rich spoiled brats. In fact, I don't think there is a Republican senator in office who's been in the military. So, if being in the military is needed to hold a high office, I guess we should get rid of every other Republican out there and replace them with veterans. It wouldn't bother me a bit if we did either :) "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 AM:

" father bob brought up an interesting point yesterday. Given the age of Palin's daughter and the age of her impregnator, why hasn't he been arrested as a sexual predator? By legal definition, he would be classified as a sexual predator. They're are young men walking around out there who have done the same thing but will carry that identity for the rest of their life. Talk to any probation officer if you don't believe me. I guess it's all in who you know.

I must say seeing McCain hugging a sexual predator on national TV was really quite a sight too. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:31 AM:

" becky wrote: "In fact, I don't think there is a Republican senator in office who's been in the military."

OK, how about Robert Bennett? Thad Cochran? Larry Craig (they didn't ask, he didn't tell)? Michael Enzi? Chuck Hagel? James Inhofe? Johnny Isakson? Richard Lugar? john McCain? Pat Roberts? Arlen Specter? Ted Stevens? Craig Thomas? That's 13. Guess how many Democrat senators served? 13.

You say get rid of every senator who never served? Like Barack Obama? Hillary Clinton? Joe Biden? Evan Bayh? Barbara Boxer? Robert Byrd? Dick Durbin? Russ Feingold? Diane Feinstein? Harry Reid? Chuck Schumer? Jay Rockefeller? Fine with me.

Or did you mean just republicans who never served? "

William Ayers wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:44 AM:

" Did you all hear about Joe Biden's 5 student draft deferments and his final ineligible classification based on his childhood asthma?
According to Joe-Hair-Plug's own autobiography, his childhood asthma didn't seem to inhibit his amazing performance on the football field or his heroic duties as a lifeguard all through high school.
Apparently it only flared up again (after years of remaining dormant) right around the time his draft number was called up.

Yep- country first. "

The Question wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:52 AM:

" I think the best example of the Republicans' overall disconnect from what we serfs call "reality," occurred during McCain's acceptance speech. For over five minutes during McCain's gasbagging, the picture of a huge mansion appeared behind McCain. Nobody could figure out what the Hell it was.
The folks over at Talking Points Memo finally deduced it was a shot of Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, CA. Apparently, the McCainiacs were attempting to tub-thump Johnny's patriotism with a shot of Walter Reed Army Medical Hospital... Once the mistake was realized, the school snap was yanked and an American flag waved on the screen for the remainder of the speech.
Ed Naha "

Becky wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:58 AM:

" Dave: well of course I meant Republicans only silly. And Ayers, do we really want to go there with deferrments? My point is, that it is being said that McCain would be a good leader because he served in the military. Personally, I think it's a good thing and it would add to someone's ability to lead...BUT....if that's the right wing mantra, how did Bush and & Cheney and their whole crew get into leadership and why did Kerry's time get black listed and made fun of? So, you all enlighten me. Why is a military background such a good thing when just 4 years ago it was something to ridicule? "

William Ayers wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:50 PM:

" (Ayers, do we really want to go there with Joe-Hair-Plug's deferrments?)

I thought I already went there Becks. "

William Ayers wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 PM:

" Biden Gaffe; Asked Wheelchair Bound Senator To Stand

Biden tells Graham to "stand up" "Chuck, stand up, Chuck, let 'em see you. Oh, God love you, what am I talking about?"
Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden goofed when he asked Sen. Chuck Graham, D-Columbia, to stand up to be acknowledged by the crowd. Graham is confined to a wheelchair.

Looks like Joe Hair-Plugs Biden wins the Dan Quayle award today. "

Mike P wrote on Sep 11, 2008 1:52 PM:

" Crowds of people have been interested and cheering for Palin, at any event she has been at, for the two weeks we knew she was alive. McCain goes to a mall, by himself and didn't draw a croud big enough to impede the progress of a bunch of mall walkers. I doub't he saw that comming either.

He's been so popular for the last two weeks, with her at stage right. The announcement he was going to be there, must have been printed wrong or cell phones were likely down, so the spontaneous buzzing crowd factor just couldn't happen. The media likely had something to do with it. Its funny how some media and folks get all, iron pot calling the iron kettle rusty, about things.

This guys so maverick, he might have been at the wrong mall, or in a different town than he was supposed to. He might have been standing there holding his Change sign, and people thought he was a senior citizen from the old folks home, looking for donations, and forgot his bucket to put them in.

People form the crowds. Some in the media, follow the crowd. Crowds translate into ratings usually. Some media will follow a candidate, but some candidates can't speak except for one speech yet. Evidently the campaign calculated suspense and ensuing speculation was the best she has to offer their cause up to now. These handlers are professionals. They kept the Bush machine in business, for eight years. Some got him the job in the first place.

Fundraiser this week was 50k to sit at the head table, and have a chance to talk to her. Would any of her fans fork over 500 or 50 bucks to be in the room, and hear the one speech again. I am no hillary clinton fan, but comparing this woman to hillary is more anti hillary than anything. Perhaps they meant Hillary Duff.

There are many capable women, who could and would be good presidents. Some of them may already be governors. There were a lot to choose from, who offered more substance and were already capable of handling themselves beyond one speech for two weeks.

Vindictive, divicive, and bitter, in men or women, isn't a character trait to put back in the office for another eight years though. He had a lot of strong inteligent women to choose from, who don't have a record of constant axe grinding on their outdoorsy resume'.

Most people would want more knowledge and background of their kids school teacher or school bus driver, to be checked out, than some think this person should be questioned about to be VP. Yet one more double standard offered at the same time when equality of gender and race, is supposed to be supported by all involved.

Equality isn't an occasionally double standards fit notion. Its equal respect and equal suspicions, of people as individuals defining themselves. Not how a characteristic of their appearance makes them seem, because of preconceived notions of what ever the basis is. Everyone who dislikes Obama is not a racist. Everyone who dislikes Palin is not a sexist. Some are, its unfortunate legacies of our past. Not just thiers. "

eugene wrote on Sep 11, 2008 4:58 PM:

" Becky, why do you think Kerry's service in Vietnam is a sham ? He is just like Hanoi Jane or do I need to give you some background on Hanoi and Kerry? "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 11, 2008 5:05 PM:

" I think Doh is forgetting that Cheney had 6 deferments. LOL! I think it's time to post a list of all of the draft dodgers surrounding Bush too.

Seriously, Doh, that was a poor topic for you to be bringing up. "

Locke wrote on Sep 11, 2008 6:29 PM:

" "He is just like Hanoi Jane or do I need to give you some background on Hanoi and Kerry?"

You know what Kerry's problem was? He didn't stand up and defend himself while he was being torn down by his opponent. Here are some facts:

MILITARY SERVICE

Kerry: With a degree from Yale, he served in the United States Navy active duty from 1966 till 1970. He volunteered to serve on a Fast Patrol Craft in 1968. During his time on a "swift boat" he received three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star. He left active duty in 1970 where he remained in the Naval Reserve until 1978.

Bush: With he degree from Yale, he served in the Texas Air National Guard from 1968 until 1973. He barely qualified to become a pilot, and in 1972 he transfered to the Alabama Air National Guard while he worked on a Republican campaign. During the last year and a half of his service, there were no records of him attending his drills.

POST SERVICE ACTIVITIES

Kerry: After returning to the States, Kerry joined an anti-war organization where he utilized his Constitutional right of free speech to voice what the majority of Americans felt -- the war was no longer worth the sacrifice. This is where people draw criticism of Kerry. He was there; he had a right to comment on subject. During this time he worked to free American POWs from Vietnam, testify before Congress, and in a more radical episode, he did throw his medals over the fence of the capital building. By 1985 Kerry was elected to the United States Senate.

Bush: After his service in the Texas Air National Guard, he went to Harvard. After graduating, Bush had a DUI in 1978, went to work in the oil industry, and had stopped driving excessively by in 1986.

The truth is, Kerry served with honor. He was targetted by a 527 that comprised of 200 swift boat veterans, many of whom were "in Kerry's unit" who decried he was undeserving of the medals. Some of those 200 witnessed, from afar, what happened during Kerry's wartime activities. However, almost universally, Kerry's crew, those who were there with him, next to him, agree to the established facts surrounding Kerry's merit.

Some people, perhaps rightfully so, did not like how Kerry conducted himself after the war. That's there right, but it is a shame to dishonor an American who volunteered, opted for hazardous duty instead of staying safe miles off the coast, and served honorably in the line of combat.

But then again, it's not really about honor, sacrifice, or service -- it's about whether you are a Republican or Democrat and whether you paid lip service to veterans or whether you served alongside them.

And to this, the uneducated fops only decry Kerry as Hanoi Jane because that's all the information their small brains were fed on the subject. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:10 PM:

" You're wasting your time with this bunch, Locke. The swift boaters turned out to be a bunch of liars, but by the time this came out it was too late. I find it absolutely hilarious that the Palin supporters are upset over what the perceive as Internet lies being told about Palin, especially after what has been, and continues to be put out about Obama and what they did to Kerry. Hopefully Obama will take the golve off and not allow himself to be swiftboated with Karl Rove like attacks and lies. "

Mike P wrote on Sep 12, 2008 2:57 AM:

" Tooot toooot

Double straight talkin express pullin out the station. Excerpts of interview, I would have made her a C G green screen figure in this one. Can she get two or three more weeks out of speech number one. Questions, repeated, Charlie.... rebuke.... confusion...... Don't Blink. We can't blink. Visine may want to sponsor her first pop up book.

Once it gets edited to run on fox, it might flow a little smoother, I only saw a few questions worth. I doubt I could sit through 3 hrs of it. Charlie needs a big fat raise. "

The Question wrote on Sep 12, 2008 9:54 AM:

" Saddle up the dinosaur, Honey. Wez a-goin to the White House! "

father bob wrote on Sep 12, 2008 5:16 PM:

" ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:53 PM:
It wasn't always civil, but there used to be a bit of give and take; now it's all about shouting down those who hold views that don't mirror TQ and HP."""
________

gee dave, it's kinda like your hero McGoo and his attack dogs....sometimes we do learn from the opposition. you can thank karl rove. "

Kim_w wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:53 PM:

" Mr. Reynolds would do well to heed his own advice and wait until the votes are counted before he starts running John McCain's victory lap. Last I checked, polls don't count for much.

Furthermore, Mr. Reynolds, unless you have done some investigative reporting that you failed to include here, your statement that the Obama campaign asked Hillary to be an "attack dog" against Palin is a bold-faced lie. I feel you owe your readers an apology. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 13, 2008 9:45 AM:

" It has become increasingly evident that McCain did not choose Paris as his VP. I recall Rush Limbaugh threatening him about not selecting s moderate like himself, and it looks like he actually caved in to Limbaugh and the rest of the radical right with his choice of the social reactionary and unqualified partisan hack, Palin.

The next logical question seems to be that if elected will he pick truly qualified people to fill important positions or will he follow in the footsteps of George Bush and appoint incompetent partisans hacks such as Paul Bremer and "heck of a job Brownie" Michael Brown?

And speaking of Paris Palin, check out page 10 of the local paper today. Talk about a uncanny resemblance. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 13, 2008 10:09 AM:

" From the Atlantic.com:

On Charles Krauthammer, noted right wing commentator and Fox wacko:


Why is Krauthammer not dissing Palin? I mean: we know nothing about her, compared to Obama. He has had four years to be vetted. She was vetted in five minutes. "

The Question wrote on Sep 13, 2008 10:36 AM:

" " ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:53 PM:
It wasn't always civil, but there used to be a bit of give and take; now it's all about shouting down those who hold views that don't mirror TQ and HP."""
---
Gee, Davey, did you ever consider the fact that maybe that's because everybody in this country with half a functioning brain has finally realized that THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS DESTROYING THE NATION. "

The Question wrote on Sep 13, 2008 11:10 AM:

" Palin says Obama regrets bypassing Clinton
---
So now the Republicans are allowed to simply speak for the opposing candidates and that becomes a headline.
There goes that darn "liberal, pro-Obama" news media again.
Maybe it would be better if the Republican candidates would just debate themselves, too, and the Democrats were excluded like Ron Paul and Ralph Nader. "

The Question wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:18 PM:

" It is inherent in the very nature of journalism that conservatives will decry it as "liberal." Conservatives do not want the machinations of the powerful exposed. Conservatives do not want the plight of the underdog revealed. Conservatives do not want ordinary people learning the truth. They don't believe ordinary people can handle the truth (reference neoconservative guru Leo Strauss).
Note that conservatives always want to talk about the presumed philosophical orientation of the reporters, never about the facts in the reporting. Note that conservatives hire male prostitutes to pose as White House reporters to spread propaganda, and bribe columnists to lie to their readers. Note that instead of letting internet conversations flourish, conservatives hire lying saboteurs to infiltrate and disrupt blogs (reference here and now).
Conservatives do not regard accurate information as the lifeblood of a democratic republic, but as a weapon to be twisted into disinformation and turned against their enemies. That's why they have demonized the term "liberal."
It's not that conservatives are angry at liberal journalists. Conservatives are angry that THERE IS ANY journalism. They much prefer advertising. "

The Question wrote on Sep 13, 2008 1:29 PM:

" Where are the Moose Queen's tax returns? Joe Biden has released his. Why isn't the corporate media demanding hers? "

William Ayers wrote on Sep 13, 2008 4:09 PM:

" (everybody in this country with half a functioning brain has finally realized that THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS DESTROYING THE NATION.)

Thanks for admitting you have half a functioning brain, Question. "

William Ayers wrote on Sep 13, 2008 4:19 PM:

" (So now the Republicans are allowed to simply speak for the opposing candidates and that becomes a headline.)

tsk tsk tsk Question.

You need to stop crying like a little school girl.

Obama made the biggest blunder in politics by not picking Hillary as his VP. You'll just have to live with that, princess. :) "

Mike P wrote on Sep 14, 2008 2:47 AM:

" Republican handlers were prepared to deal with VP Clinton. That they ran the dip net so deep into the lagoon, to dig up this person for their VP pick, shows how much they were counting on the Clintons being the focus of their attacks. "

Early Bird wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:50 AM:

" Doh says:

You need to stop crying like a little school girl.

That sounds like some good advice for you to take, Doh.

By the way, say hello to Bryant Lamphier for us. LOL! "

The Question wrote on Sep 14, 2008 1:05 PM:

" A group of doctors have signed this petition urging John McCain to release his medical records:

John McCain has not yet released his medical records to the public. McCain is 72 years old, and has been diagnosed with invasive melanoma. In May of this year, a small group of selected reporters were allowed to review 1,173 pages of McCain's medical records that covered only the last eight years, and were allowed only three hours to do so. John McCain's health is an issue of profound importance. We call on John McCain to issue a full, public disclosure of all of his medical records, available for the media and members of the general public to review. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:08 PM:

" On the National Enquirer story about Palin's infidelity, Ryan Churches Says:

Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 4:05 pm
I like but don't support McCain. However, I rue the day someone like Palin becomes President.

My 2 cents:

-I would never vote for someone, or not, based on a story like this. Thats their personal business, and its also like blaming a snake for being venomous. Its not that fidelity is not a desirable trait in a politician, its just that its contrary to the ego that makes them seek office. Its the nature of the beast.

-The National Enquirer is not Obamas Cronies nor is it the Left Wing Media. Nobody here, or at the McCain camp has read the article. I dont know how he could be threatening to sue them, without even knowing what they plan to write.

-If the source is one unnamed Enemy of Palin, presumably her ex-Bro-in-Law, with no corroborating evidence, we should be suspicious. If the reporting is as thorough and accurate as it was during the Edwards scandal, well, thats another story. Theres nothing wrong with having one angry source, if you can back him up with evidence, circumstantial or otherwise.

-I said I would never vote based on this, and I dont think the religious right would either, as long as the candidate isnt a Democrat. If it were true, how ironic would it be that the party of morality would have two adulterers on the ticket? Ironic and hypocritical, and we know what the bible says about that.

-Sara Palin scares me, but not because I think she will win it for McCain. I think her policies represent a huge step backwards in a country where certain sects of American protestants are both too fundamental and too vocal. Their politics are as fundamental as you can get, short of radical Islam, and that isn't hyperbole.

-I take pride that Obama preached change, and didt pick a woman, or Clinton, just to win the election. we have 28 years of Bush/Clinton in the White House. Surely the right wing that believes Palin will win it for McCain must then agree that Hilary would have won it for Obama. So he said change and he meant it, and then the Republicans said change, too (how original), but they meant a reactionary change, apparently. And pay no attention to the party behind the oval office.

-I dont know if McCain as songbird is true, but I wouldn't blame him if it was. Its a romantic fantasy that people hold out when being tortured. Im not saying the information would be good, but they will talk.

-Finally, I dont believe that race is close. Post convention McCain is still down, but overall, and down in key states. These polls under-represent students living on campus, people who are institutionalized, and deployed military.

You can bet the first two of those groups will vote Obama. Surveys of the military personnel they could get to suggest they lean McCain, but the ones overseas donate 6-1 for Obama, despite the McCain campaigns claims that they love him. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:30 PM:

" Shades of Reverend Wright?

Palin's preacher invites a speaker to spew anti-Semitic nonsense while she sits in the audience and listens. Also, her own church sounds as crazy as anything dished out by Obama's. Can we say Reverend Wright? This one has the potential to turn off crucial Jewish voters in the two key states of Ohio and Florida. If McCain loses either of those states, he's done.

I seem to remember a meltdown from the right side over Obama's preacher's comments a while back. Can we say hypocrisy? "

Cognitus wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:03 PM:

" William Ayres wrote:"" Did you all hear about Joe Biden's 5 student draft deferments and his final ineligible classification based on his childhood asthma?"
Ayres, haven't you seen the list of
Republican chickenhawks -- those who vigorously supported Vietnam but declined the opportunity to exercise their patriotism. Let's have no BS from Republicans about our candidates until they acknowledge theirs. The Manchester Guardian has a LONG LIST
of the guilty Republicans. Dick Cheney
leads the list.....who got his wife pregnant only 2 days after it was announced men with children might be drafted despite student deferments. "

Cognitus wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:15 PM:

" It has not received much publicity but the Palin VP is likely to be 2 for the price of 1. It was revealed today that Palin's husband attends official meetings and is copied in state correspondence. So the question is whether she or he is the REAL governor of Alaska.

The husband, incidentally, just received a subpoena to appear before the committee investing the Stevens-Pailin scandal. Republicans claim that it is a "smear", but note that Palin's home REPUBLICAN senator voted with the Democrats on this issue.

I'm getting sick of hearing about McCain's "honor". In the Naval Academy, he was the leader of those who "went over the wall", i.e. violated military orders and "DESERTED" his post to party. He was then able to defy the Commandant because of family connections. On another instance he beat up a superior officer whom he did not like.
These are hardly actions appropriate to an officer and a gentleman in the service of the United States. "

injustice85 wrote on Sep 21, 2008 11:39 AM:

" laugh and cry "

 



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