" well we've heard all about her feelings towards oil so.... "

" This was such a wind stealer, even Gustav, weakened soon after it was announced. Suddenly opening a vacuum tends to do that, with proportional air around it.

The only criticism I have seen of not picking Hillary, has been from across the aisle. HMMM. Had this paper been properly represented at a recent event they provided cradentials for, Hillary and Bill are both, past it. They spoke about it, I am sure someone of the 15000 reporters there, took a note of that.

Now I see why an AP report has been the only mention of this. Even with waterwings, a life jacket, and a fun noodle, its too deep of water for ya'all to be out in as a group. Put politics on the list of things poorly covered, poorly understood, and given the standard and poor Our View, Poorly attempted to yet again seem relavent. Its all over the place, with regurgitated infomation, poorly chosen but mingled with slight wording modifications, to give it the feel of an opinion. Its unfortunate people are exposed to such weak outdated coverage, it just brings braincell numbers down, to the labotomized politics, with a pin the tail on either, its my party, party platform, IV drip. "

" hmmmmm....i wonder exactly what's going to "change" except women's rights? "

" I want to know who the 33 idiots are that voted Yes in today's online poll. "

" If Obama is such an inexperienced nobody who the Republicans aren't afraid of, why are they taking his campaign slogan and running with it themselves? McCain and change????? Gimme a break :( "

" Tell me, Tex, what would the Fox News reaction be if the Obamas had an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? Would it be an issue in the election then?
As I recall, Fox used the insulting term "Baby Mama" to apply to the LEGALLY WED mother Michelle Obama, did they not? "

" Becky, the Republicans aren't just running against Obama. They're running against Obama and NBC and ABC and CBS and PBS and CNN and MSNBC and AP and NYT and LAT and .......

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Last night when President Bush was addressing the convention and the nation via remote satelite, CBS and NBC and ABC muted the audio in the convention center. What came through on their broadcast was only the audio and video of the president. Obviously, there were long pauses during his delivery (absent the sound at the convention center while he waited for the applause to die down) and it made Bush look just like the networks wanted him to look like. This is how it's done over and over and over. Thank God for Fox News! We were able to hear the whole speech, including the applause.

When McCain/Palin win this one, it'll be another huge defeat of the MSM! Americans are tired of being deceived by the $400 haircuts! "

" Question, the only time that it should be an issue is if say Obama was out preaching the virtues of his perfect family and then something like that came out. I don't watch Fox News so I never heard them call Mrs. Obama a Baby Mama. Anyway, I was talking about the online poll not what any paper or gossip rag was saying. I just want to know what 33 idiots in Mattoon, IL think that her pregger daughter should be an issue in this campaign. Obviously they taught her enough to know that life is precious and having the baby is better than aborting it. They seem to be a good sound supporting family. That is certainly refreshing in this day and age. Can you imagine the uproar if she would have gotten an abortion? On both sides!!! I am certainly looking forward to getting to know Sarah Palin and what she is about before I make any kind of opinion of her and her politics. But I would still like to slap some sense into those 33 idiots. "

" I hate to tell you this, Tex, but this is now a Mattoon/Charleston area paper. And perhaps because it is an online poll some of those idiots who voted might be from Texas. I hear that Texas is known to have put out an idiot or two. LOL! "

" Jg-TC's Online Poll

Should Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy be an issue in the election?

Yes (55 Votes, 17%)

No (269 Votes, 83%)

(At this time)

....

Hmmmm....
How telling.
Too bad some don't seem to be getting the picture. "

" Question, the only time that it should be an issue is if say Obama was out preaching the virtues of his perfect family and then something like that came out.
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Then of course you agree it should be an issue for Sarah Pit Bull, who vapidly preaches the virtues of abstinence-only sex education. Obviously, her policy failed miserably right within her own family, didn't it? "

" Would someone PLEASE expain to me how McCain is (still) a maverick politician? It keeps getting repeated, over and over and I don't know what they are talking about. Please, someone enlighten me (really, I do want to know). "

" McCain has been called a "maverick" because he often sided with democrats and went against President Bush on several issues. "

" Hey, here's some GOP news for you. Did you hear that one of Dick Cheney's fellow Halliburton criminals is going up the river?
A former chief executive of construction firm KBR Inc. has pleaded guilty to federal bribery charges in connection with the company's natural gas operations in Nigeria from 1995 to 2004.
The Justice Department said Albert "Jack" Stanley entered a guilty plea Wednesday in federal court in Houston to conspiring in a decade-long scheme to bribe Nigerian government officials in return for engineering and construction contracts.
As CEO of Houston-based KBR, Stanley headed a subsidiary within Halliburton Co., the oilfield services conglomerate whose chief executive from 1995 to 2000 was Vice President Dick Cheney. "

" In my opinion its because he watched Top Gun Once. It might have been his pilot call sign fourty plus years ago as well.

Politics is a chess game of words to November. Adopting words, is how campaigns paint the pictures of what they represent. Some seem to paint by number with a paint roller. Political slogans and campaign button mottos date back to the beginning. This campaign has one word to define its candidate, and it gets a lot of miles when it is the only paint roller used. Maverick, is this guys campaign drum. True ways he fits the term, without changing the pre McCain accepted meaning is lost on me, but I am sure a dedicated follower would expand on how exactly he is a maverick, besided that its in the hand out. "

" Well Question, if she does preach that then yes she did fail miserbly. I will give you that. And yes, Texas has put out it's share of idiots as well as Illinois LOL. She did give an AWESOME speach last night. Very impressive. "

" You're right TQ, her daughter's pregnancy should be a major issue in this campaign. After all, that's probably the only occurrence in recorded history of a teenager not listening to the advice of a parent. "

" Yes, Ed but that was in 2000. Since then he has voted 95% with Bush, sang a song about bombing Iran with nukes, said that staying in Iraq for 100 years wouldn't bother him, is now pandering with the fanantical religious right and then picks a VP whose views are EXTREMELY to the religious right. What still makes him a maverick? I really liked him in 2000, but today he seems a mere shell of the man of maverick qualities. "

" McCain's veiw of change is clear when his ideal for health care came out.
If he get the office he plan's to tax
you for what your employer pays on your premiums.As if paying most of the cost already wasn't enough.
And if you can afford insurance on your owen with all the loop hole's
and selective coverage according to your health you get a tax break.
If you have ever had to try to get it on your owen, good luck!
pre existing conditions and the health history Q&A will only make your premiums higher,and refuse you coverage.
His running mate will help back door
Americans into anwar.
With the lawsuit she has on Washington
on behalf of the oil companys against the polar bears would in legal terms put her at a conflict of intrest,with
the energy department and the American
people.
Oil is no longer the Answer.
By all means lets open up for off shore drilling so every time there is a storm are gas price's go up.
Da!!! "

" Eddie, your pal Bill O'Reilly says the blame for teenage pregnancy falls "primarily on the parents of the girl." Don't you agree with your own Fox News spokescreature? "

" right here texas t, being a good role model and leader should start at home "

" ed miller wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:42 AM:

" McCain has been called a "maverick" because he often sided with democrats and went against President Bush on several issues. "

SO why is he siding with him now then? "

" So TQ, you and your cronies are saying that people should vote for Obama because McCain's VP pick has an unwed pregnant daughter. That is so pathetic. "

" Palin wasn't picked for her brains,experience or qualification for high office. She's to appeal to the nonthinkers. Fertile ground in 2008 America. Shameful. "

" Hey GRINGA... more brilliant insight from yourself.

Obama doesn't get $400 haircuts. He gets $10 haircuts from a Southside Chicago barber every couple of weeks.

I know, I know, you SOOOOOO badly want him to be an elitist, but let us not forget the McCains 7 homes, the good Senator's $500 Italian shoes, or Cindy's $300k outfit she wore last night.

Sure, this is petty, but you brought it up... hypocrite. "

" Wow they sure Got Palin's wiki page full of stuff, and changes in a few days. She suddenly has a briming full resume, with lots of pats on the back.

They can lay claim to those changes, I'll give them that much. It is nothing like it was, on Saturday.

That Carl Rove, is one smooth writer.

Shows how last minute a choice she was, her wiki resume hadn't been created and updated yet. If I were in poltiks I would have done that, before I announced her, but in the understandable scramble, I can see how Lots of people wer busy doing lots of stuff, and it was not at the top of the to do list.

Now maybe they will write her a different speech.

She might be in whitness protection, or in the CIA, since all this had to be put together, and is only slightly like it was a few days ago. Didn't know a name from a hat, put on a ticket, would automaticly inherit Cheyney's executive priviledges, and secrecy demands now. I wonder if she gets to learn the secret handshakes, if they win?Hopefully someone printed the old one out, it might be worth something, to inquizative folks looking to compare before the republican paint rollers white washed that fence. "

" Palin wasn't picked for her brains,experience or qualification for high office. She's to appeal to the nonthinkers. Fertile ground in 2008 America. Shameful. "

Excellent point, what!

I notice that the right wingers keep saying the only thing those on the left have is the poor morals of the daughter and ancient DUI. That's really not true, as those are two pretty minor issues. There is a whole laundry list of questions abut Palin's character, decision making skills etc. Those defending her, only want to talk about the pregnancy and the DUI. What aren't they addressing the real criticisms, such as her using her position to punish her opponents, her ideas on book burning, her links to the crooked Ted Stevens etc? Their ignoring these issues is pretty telling.

Personally I don't care about the infidelity rumors, daughters bad morals and pregnancy, husbands driving record etc. Let's just her about issues such I have listed.

Lastly, I got a kick out of one of the editorial writers comment that the man at the head of the straight talking express had bent himself into a pretzel defending this poor choice for VP.

I'm afraid this Palin issue won't go away. "

" When asked questions about the economy, John McCain openly admits he doesn't know much about the subject. The best he could do was to make a lame quip about having read Greenspan's book.

Now with the rumors flying around about Palin's infidelity problems, John should be able to help, after all that's a topic he should be well versed in. I'm sure he and Cindy will be able to council Sara on the subject of cheating on your spouse.

The National Enquirer is hot on the trail and I suspect they'll be coming out with the results of their investigating on Palin's sleazy past.

I can't wait for the spin on this one. LOL! "

" So TQ, you and your cronies are saying that people should vote for Obama because McCain's VP pick has an unwed pregnant daughter. That is so pathetic. "
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Oh, and for the record, I don't care how many illegitimate children Palin's daughters have, or how young they are when they have them. A whole litter is fine with me. "

" Actually, lefty, I was referring to Edwards haircut when I mentioned the $400 haircuts. I think you probably knew that.

As I read through the usual leftist mantra on here, naturally I'm tempted to address each one individually, but I've got better things to do today. Suffice it to say, the general theme of all this crap falls under the heading: Lefties are now wishing they had chosen Hillary at the top of the ticket and Obama as their VP.

Stick a fork in the Democrat ticket. It's done. Better luck next time. "

" By the way, the truth is that the corporate media has given Palin a pass on the fact that she is unqualified for the presidency. And another pass, apparently, on the story of her adultery, as they also did for McCain.
Why is adultery a major story worth weeks of coverage only when it involves a Democrat who is not running? "

" By the way, the truth is that the LIBERAL media has given OBAMA a pass on the fact that HE is unqualified for the presidency. "

" As someone said, Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor. "

" This "liberal news media" lie has many uses for the right, Ed. As neocon Bill Kristol finally admitted, it's "working the refs" so that the neutral news media will tend to shy away from stories that might be perceived as anti-right.
It also helps keep the unwashed from realizing that corporate media is really skewed to the far right, especially in the stories it DOES NOT cover. (Why is a documentary film maker the only one to tackle a major problem on the minds of many Americans, the ongoing collapse of the American health care system, which is absolutely NOT "the greatest health care system in the world?" What happened to the news coverage of the burning immigration issue? Where is it?).
Finally, any air time or newspaper space that gets eaten up by this nonsense does not go toward examining what the Bush administration and the Republicans are really up to. So it's all good. Hence the constant "liberal media" refrain from our little Stepford fascists. "

" "Vanity Fair editors estimated that Cindy McCain's fierce saffron shirt dress with the popped collar, diamond earrings, four-strand pearl necklace, white Chanel watch and strappy shoes totaled up to $313,100."

Now there is someone who is really in touch with the American people. I think if I added up everything that I own, I wouldn't have $300,000 worth of stuff. "

" I see in the news,but it isn't the headline and should be,"AP sends out all of it Special Force Hit men to DESTROY Sara Palin". We have only seen a small sample of it printed in our paper to date.
Stay tuned for updates. "

" Friday, September 5, 2008

CONSERVATIVE CREDENTIALS



Romney Restates Belief That McCain Is Outside GOP Mainstream


ST. PAUL, Minn. -- In the heat of the Republican primary battle, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney blasted John McCain as "outside the mainstream of conservative Republican thought."

But does Romney, who spoke in support of McCain on Wednesday night, still believe that?

Actually, yes.

In an interview Thursday afternoon with Washington Post reporters and editors, Romney said he stands by his assessment of how he and McCain stack up against each other in terms of their conservative credentials.

"I still think my views on those issues are more consistent with the mainstream of my party, but you know what? He won. And I didn't," Romney said. "

" Funny that their symbol is an elephant. How soon the Republicans forget.
It was just a short time ago, during the endless hours of coverage of minister quotes and "terrorist fist bumps," when Fox News and the right wingers were saying things like: "Well, if Obama can't handle any negative news media coverage, then he's not going to be able to handle anything as president."
And now Caribou Barbie and the War Mummy are being treated so UNFAIRLY by that meanie media. Oh, boo hoo. Boo hoo. "

" Rush Limbaugh on John McCain:

Stunning. Limbaugh thinks its appropriate to joke about McCain being taken prisoner and held as a POW? All because Bush got caught failing to do his duty and McCain isnt out there lying on the presidents behalf?

To his credit, McCains office is showing great restraint and responding with an incredibly mild rebuke.

McCain is taking the high road. His spokesman, Marshall Wittman, said the only comment he would provide is this:

Senator McCain has made it crystal clear on numerous occasions that he believes the president served honorably in the National Guard.

When pressed about Limbaughs comments, Wittman said, Its just not truthful.

Considering that a draft-dodger like Limbaugh is mocking McCains years as a prisoner of war, I suspect there are stronger responses available than its just not truthful. "

" Roger Simon apologizes:
On behalf of the elite media, I would like to say we are very sorry.
We have asked questions this week that we should never have asked.
We have asked pathetic questions like: Who is Sarah Palin? What is her record? Where does she stand on the issues? And is she is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?
We have asked mean questions like: How well did John McCain know her before he selected her? How well did his campaign vet her? And was she his first choice?
Bad questions. Bad media. Bad.
It is not our job to ask questions. Or it shouldn't be. To hear from the pols at the Republican National Convention this week, our job is to endorse and support the decisions of the pols. "

" "Roger" owes us an apology, not for asking tough questions but not asking them to everyone. Where is the media grilling Obama over his association with terrorists and crooked Chicago politicians or his lack of qualifications. He went to the senate, not to serve his country, but to launch his campaign.

The Saddest Thing About Barack Obama's Available Military Expertise...

...is that though he has Wes Clark in his corner, the only person he knows with the experience of getting a bomb on target is Bill Ayers. "

" McCain will put the bomb on target alright. As long as he avoids wrecking his airplane or just up and ejecting on his way to the target. "

" Palin will be there or not, on election day.

After watching both speeches, and knowing what we know of how thoroughly both candidates weeded through, over long periods of time to pick their running mates, who is more likey to make effective appointments in their administration with great thought going into it? Policy and many facets of government relate to the cabinet, and other appointments made. From how McCain chose Palin, what should make anyone think he will be any different in chosing people he appoints to the many positions. Sure he is a senior senator, and has rubbed elbows with more people, over his 70 plus years, then Palin was mayor or governor over, but he's a maverick. So maverick, and all over the place, on issues it is likely some appointments could conflict with each other. He doesn't seem capable of big picture focus thought. Hes a republican one minute, independent another, and who knows what he stands for the next. This guy is like a superball, in a pinball machine.

Depending on what rerun of matlock he watches, deciding what frame of clarity of thought he has for a moment, or the afternoon, is not my idea of leadership to be depended on. Shooting completely from the hip in your support staff, and appointments, should frighten the heck out of everyone. It might work if he were running for the president of the McCain museum, but this guy is running for president of The United States.

Chosing Palin, plays to his favor. Everyone else, has been out there, on the road and in the news, constantly for almost 2 years. She only has to survive 2 months of it. Tons of free publicity for his ticket. Curiosity is peaked. It wouldn't have been as much so, if he picked anyone already known. He gets a few more weeks to coast through under the radar, with still no substance on any policy so Rove or the like can manufacture some.

All the distraction of Palin, is right from the GOP sneak it through while they aren't looking playbook. The outrage over personal information likey a calculated effort to continue to distract from real issues, where they are traditionally weak. The palin discussion should not become the focus of the campaigns. Her issues will be sifted in hopes of golden headlines, by many groups.

McCain has been twiddling his thumbs, since march. Now his campaign is still on auto pilot, with the whos Palin frenzy, he can coast by a few more weeks. Republicans can't say what he stands for and plans to do. He is a republican maverick, because they never know. For anyone to vote for this guy, from any party is completely baffeling. Republicans can only hope for a few crumbs of him representing their views, here and there, if his throw the bums out speech is to be held up as his real view of things.

If the Democrats get sucked into this weapons of mass selfdistruction, hide and seek. We might all be asking serious questions about who's President elect Nader's running mate, come electoral college tally time. I guess he had a convention, I have no Idea, or who his number two is. Under the circumstances, he is likely more of a threat than the McCain ticket. Any debates McCain won't go, because he can't preapprove the questions, or supply the ones Rove prepared them for, Put Nader in. Get the focus on Policies and Plans, not someone from nowhere. She wasn't that big a deal, for the last 2 years, she still isn't. A strong well established candidate, who has established policy, and consistent decisions to refer to, can pick a Quale, VP and win. This is not the case, it should be treated like the lame ducks ticket it is. When they run out a maverick policy outline, then give them some attention. Until then its just tabloid politcs, and Palin is his Paris Hilton, front page story, ticket. If not for her, he would be stuck between the funnies and obits, still. If the Paris Palin distraction, gets him elected, it will be the simple life for all of us. His ad is really ironic now isn't it, lol. "

" i just can't wait to vote and get it over with, time will tell and we will see who is talk and who isn't "

" Obama mocks McBush.
McCain has acknowledged voting with President Bush 90 percent of the time in Congress, Obama said.
"And suddenly he's the change agent? Ha. He says, 'I'm going to tell those lobbyists that their days of running Washington are over.' Who is he going to tell? Is he going to tell his campaign chairman, who's one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington? Is he going to tell his campaign manager, who was one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington?" "

" Remember how Obama tried to take the high road and declare that family attacks were off limits? Anyone catch Howard Gutman going after Gov. Palin's family again on On Friday's Laura Ingraham radio show?

So who is Howard Gutman...

* Official member of Barack Obama's campaign. You know, one of those folks eligible for something Obama calls "firing" should they attack a candidate's family --- properly or otherwise.
* Only one of 35 bundlers to raise over $500,000 for Obama, on par with Hollywood moguls Daivd Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg
* Not only a registered lobbyist, but Lobbyist of the Year (2006)
* Not only Lobbyist of the Year, but he played a lobbyist (himself) on HBO's K Street
* Did I mention he likes to lobby?
* And that Obama does not?

I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any other candidate in this race to take on lobbyists and won. They have not funded my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president.

Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007

* And last but not least, defense attorney for Bill Ayers' Weather Underground killers, springing domestic terrorist Susan Rosenberg from prison. (Correction: While Bill Clinton sprung Rosenberg via one of his 140 last minute pardons, Gutman was still actively seeking to spring her before Clinton's timely pardon.)

We'll see if Obama fires him over his "off limits" Palin family smear because Howard Gutman OWNS Barack Obama. Oh I love the hypocrisy from the Liberal Messiah. "

" (Correction: While Bill Clinton sprung Rosenberg via one of his 140 last minute pardons, Gutman was still actively seeking to spring her before Clinton's timely pardon.)

Gee eddie, I guess only Bill Clinton ever pardoned anyone, huh?

Now what happened to all the criminals who brought us the infamous Reagan Iran-Contra scandal. Surely they weren't pardoned by Daddy Bush. "

" If Palin is the epitome of motherhood, the flag and apple pie as her party is so desperately trying to portray her, and enough people fall for it, we might be in deep trouble. "

" This morning on C-Span, I heard some guttersnipe from Georgia explaining that he was sure that Obama was either a Muslim or a worshipper of a "monkey god he carries in his pocket."
Unfortunately, he was serious. If Obama loses, it will be this kind of stupid American racist trash thinking that does the trick. And the whole nation will pay the price. "

" I understand Mattel is now offering Caribou Barbie in her Georgia Bush "Mission Accomplished" Flight Suit with "Big Hair" Flight Helmet! ($29.95). "

" What is it about Republican women and morals, values and ethic? First it was Cindy McCain and her lurid past, starting with her having an affair with a married man, to her lies about Mother Theresa asking her to adopt her daughter, lying about being an only child then her drug thefts and culminating with the biggest insult to every self respecting mom in the country, stealing cookie recipes. I doubt if Cindy even knows where he kitchens are in any of her mansions, let alone knowing any cookie recipes.

Then old McGoo picks someone with about the same value system to be his running mate.

What I'm really wondering is if the same folks who are defending these two reprobates are the same ones who got so upset over Clinton's actions? I have a hunch they are. LOL! "

" Mattel's "Caribou Barbie" comes with everything you see here:
-- Dead Caribou
-- Snowmobile
-- Sexy Librarian Glasses
She even talks, chirping such fun phrases as:
-- "I'm a pitbull with lipstick!
- - "My family is off limits!"
- - "What is it the vice president actually does?" "

" John McCain made a quick stop at the Capitol one day last spring to sit in on Senate negotiations on the big immigration bill, and John Cornyn was not pleased.
Cornyn, a mild-mannered Texas Republican, saw a loophole in the bill that he thought would allow felons to pursue a path to citizenship.
McCain called Cornyn's claim "chicken-s---," according to people familiar with the meeting, and charged that the Texan was looking for an excuse to scuttle the bill. Cornyn grimly told McCain he had a lot of nerve to suddenly show up and inject himself into the sensitive negotiations.
"F--- you," McCain told Cornyn, in front of about 40 witnesses.
It was another instance of the Republican presidential candidate losing his temper, another instance where, as POW-MIA activist Carol Hrdlicka put it, "It's his way or no way."
There's a lengthy list of similar outbursts through the years: McCain pushing a woman in a wheelchair, trying to get an Arizona Republican aide fired from three different jobs, berating a young GOP activist on the night of his own 1986 Senate election and many more. "

" Oh thanks for reminding us, TQ. The media has kind of slacked off lately, what with trying to trash Gov. Palin's family and all.

Once again America, if you don't vote for Obama, then you are a racist. "

" Looks like Palin and Blago do share on trait, that is, neither one wants to lives in the Governors mansion. I wonder if Blago's critics will go after her or that issue too?

I'm sure her supporters will view this as her wanting to keep her family intact, while Blago's actions speak of arrogance on his part. I'm sure they will have some sort of justification for this decision on her part.

Just another issue, from a long list, where the Republicans forgive their own and blast the Dems for the same thing.

And according to Fox news, her preacher is busy converting homosexuals from being gay into becoming straight, so that should win over the hearts of the religious fanatics too.

Fox news is doing their part into creating the illusion that this woman is the second coming.

Will the whole country fall for this ruse? "

" Let's face the facts, John McCain picked a running mate with close ties to a indicted, disgraced Senator. That is NOT putting "Country First", that's a reckless political act that's going to backfire big time.

(For some good reading: Google Palin Steven connections)

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. More to come.

This gets better by the day.

McCain can't keep her away from the press much longer. But maybe that's her idea.

As mayor she issued an edict that department heads could only speak to the press through her office. "

" Oh thanks for reminding us, TQ.
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You're more than welcome, Eddie. Any time. "

" You know what represents real McCain "change?" Shoving women in wheel chairs. That's certainly a change in standards of behavior.
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According to McClatchy's report, in 1996, McCain was met in the Senate office halls by a group of family members of POW-MIAs who had been pressing him to pursue more information on their relatives.
Six people present have written statements describing what they saw. According to the accounts, McCain waved his hand to shoo away Jeannette Jenkins, whose cousin was last seen in South Vietnam in 1970, causing her to hit a wall.
As McCain continued walking, Jane Duke Gaylor, the mother of another missing serviceman, approached the senator. Gaylor, in a wheelchair equipped with portable oxygen, stretched her arms toward McCain.
"McCain stopped, glared at her, raised his left arm ready to strike her, composed himself and pushed the wheelchair away from him," according to Eleanor Apodaca, the sister of an Air Force captain missing since 1967. "

" The story, which appeared just hours before Mrs Palin was due to address the Republican convention today, was branded "scurrilous" by McCain chief strategist Steve Schmidt, who said it was "a vicious lie"

"The smearing of the Palin family must end," he said.

"The allegations contained on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Governor Palin had an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie. "

And just how would he know it's a lie? Oh yeah, Sara told him, and Republicans NEVER lie do they? LOL!

After the investigators at the National Enquirer get through with their search, McCain might be red faced, and wish he had actually spent more than one day with her before making such a rash decision.

I'm still laughing at what the Repugs would have said if Obama had picked such a novice for his running mate and tried to sell the idea that being mayor for a burg the size of Arcola*, and the governor of one of the least populated states in the union was a qualifyer for her to be VP.

*With apologies to the fine folks of Arcola. "

" Is the party of traditional marriage aware that the vice-presidential nominee actually eloped with her now-husband? And just in case you missed it: Scott Richter, Todd Palin's former business partner, has just filed an emergency motion to seal his divorce papers.

For those not keeping up, Scott Richter is Palin's alleged former lover.

Now why he want his divorce papers sealed?

Hmmm...

The plot thckens.

This gets better by the day... "

" If blago did his job, and footed the bill, he could live in Chicago, Cairo, or Alaska. Communication has advanced, a majority of things could be done away from the desk, and just show up every so often to sign what still needs actual ink on it to be legal. If it was done efectively, it is a non issue.

Parts of her stories are good stories. Many parts she intentionally leaves out, are still good stories, but not in creating the image they hope to.

Alaska is a oil rich tick, it has been since the pipeline push long ago. It gets more pork per person, than any other state, even with her five dollars per person, cut she made in requests for it, from the first to the second of the two she presided over.

As mayor she got a huge civic center sports complex put up for this town of 7-10k people. It is operating in the red, and this town is long in her political wake, still dealing with decisions made under her supervision.

She ran for governor on the very bridge to nowhere issue, Support for it was a big part of the platform. She now boasts she had a hand in its demise. Alaska got all the money that was intended for the bridge, but federal support for the bridge project its self, fizzled. Alaska got to decide to use the money to build it, or spread the hundreds of millions around the state, in many projects. She still took the bridge money, and spent every dime of it. There is no bridge, but most of the road that would have led to it, is completed I think. A road to nowhere was built under her supervision.

It should sound like a local new interchange, from 57. Exit 192 to CO RD 1000 N.

Rod ran on reform, many parallels between them should be triggering a few flags from his many critics.

Republicans suddenly for reform, from republican politics, is an interesting twist to this snake charming campaign.

They tell their crowds they know times are tough, and many other placating lines to seem like they feel your pain. They campaign on change, but have no ways to actually do it. Change simply for the sake of change, with no specifics, is not usually change for the better.

Now the pitbull in lipstick is eager to go to washington and break some china. They want to finally begin to work for the people all of a sudden, but break the china peoples tax dollars were spent on.

Selling the contents of the whitehouse on ebay, or burning, banning, and breaking it under the guise of change, is not going to get its value out of it. Anyone know what the final bid price she accepted for that jet sold on eBay was. State assets, even jets can be poperly utilized, limited or disposed of, getting some real value in return for doing it right.
They could sell air force one two and three, on ebay for a dollar each. Buy new less fancy cargo planes, and come across as implementing change. Most of alaska can't be reached by car. Selling the jet, limited where she could and would go, in her home state, without chartering a flight to do it.

They could start hosting state dinners on the lawn, on paper plates, make them pot lucks rather than catered, but how is that going to fix whats broke, outside the whitehouse fence.

If they have a plan, its a secret. People are supporting and endorsing the R , not the platform of the two folks who fell to the top on the R ticket. At least wait till they come up with one, or pretend to.

Following anyone or group blindly leaves you limited in direction, results, and potential. "

" Does the Palin affair deserve as much attention as the Edwards affair?

I would think more, after all Palin is in the race and the news of Edwards affair came out after he was out of the race. It starting to look like the affair story just might be true, so will McCain keep her after the story breaks? Given the number of stories that have surfaced about McCain's own infidelity, I think he would look like a big hypocrite if he chooses to dump her.

But then he has shown that he will do what even it take to win, from kissing Bush's rear to hiring the very person who cost him the election in 2000, Karl "dirty tricks" Rove.

If it looks like she will pull him down, he will throw her under the bus in a heartbeat. Of course if that happens some cockamamie story will come out about her firing.

Has anyone else noticed that since McCain got the nomination, the Repugs, on this site and elsewhere, have been awfully quiet about Bill's infidelity.

Kind of funny, huh?

It used to be that the local right wingers had to remind us of Clinton's infidelity at least once a week or so.

Collective right wing Amnesia on their part? LOL! "

" So now we're told Palin will no interviews until "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference,", according to McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis (TPM).

Who the HELL does he think he is? Who the HELL does she think she is? She works for US --it's not the other way around.

Meanwhile, anybody interested in discussing why we should get the bulk of troops out of Iraq? I have a commenter taking me on -- seems to think he/she is an expert now, which I've never claimed to be -- just stating my opinion and desires.

TROOPS SLOW TO LEAVE - WHY? http://coonsey.wordpress.com/ "

" Echo.
LOL! "

" Oberman and Matthews, on the bench until after elections. Palin doin a charlie gibson interview maybe, tues. Free press is alive and well. lol "

" The Bush administration's seizure of troubled mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is potentially a $200 billion bet that it will help reverse a prolonged housing and credit crisis.

This story has been brewing for days. So where are the cheerleaders for free enterprise on this one. It's hard to imagine what they would be saying if a Democrat were to do this. "

" The Bush administration's seizure of troubled mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is potentially a $200 billion bet that it will help reverse a prolonged housing and credit crisis.
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According to this newspaper's banner headline, they "siezed" them, Bird. But what they actually did involves a word the Republicans are desperate to avoid using: they nationalized them. Just like the commies. LOL. "

" Hey Coonbug, if you want people to go to your website, pay for a classified add like everyone else. "

" Apparently someone has to explain this all to the slow people. TQ has equated this government involvement in the mortgage companies as "communism". Apparently he does not understand that they are already government backed, non-profit organizations known as GSE's.

This is from Wiki(I'm sorry if there are any big words, TQ)

"The government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) are a group of financial services corporations created by the United States Congress. Their function is to enhance the flow of credit to targeted sectors of the economy and to make those segments of the capital market more efficient and transparent. The desired effect of the GSEs is to enhance the availability and reduce the cost of credit to the targeted borrowing sectors: agriculture, home finance and education.[citation needed] Congress created the first GSE in 1916 with the creation of the Farm Credit System; it initiated GSEs in the home finance segment of the economy with the creation of the Federal Home Loan Banks in 1932; and it targeted education when it chartered Sallie Mae in 1972 (although Congress allowed Sallie Mae to relinquish its government sponsorship and become a fully private institution via legislation in 1995). The residential mortgage borrowing segment is by far the largest of the borrowing segments in which the GSEs operate. Together, the three mortgage finance GSEs (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the 12 Federal Home Loan Banks) have several trillion dollars of on-balance sheet assets."

So you see, it was already a Government sponsored entity anyway. The republican president is just trying to take care of the economy. Your candidate (Obama), just admitted that the Republican tax cuts were helping the economy anyway and he wouldn't rescind them right away. Gee,....less taxes, better economy. What a concept.

"Communism" is where we give all of our money to the government and they distribute it equally among everyone. That is pretty much Obama's economic plan. "

" I find it rather hard to believe that after what almost 8 years of Bush/Cheney policies have done to our country, that people are even thinking about voting for 4 more years of the same failed policies. Absolutely unbelievable! "

" It looks like the Palin/e-Bay/plane sale turned out to be another big lie too. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:25 PM:
" I find it rather hard to believe that after what almost 8 years of Bush/Cheney policies have done to our country, that people are even thinking about voting for 4 more years of the same failed policies. Absolutely unbelievable! "

Most of the time it was ok. It's only the last couple of years that have been really bad. Hmmm..., that's when the Democratic congress was elected. Go figure. "

" Alaska contracts Arizona to house prison and jail inmates, 1091 of them. It does save money paying the Us Marshal service 127k to transport 145 prisoners, on flights, rather than using the jet to tansport prisoners as it was done as 50 percent of its use.

I would think another local prison, would pay for its self rather quickly, under those circumstances. A republican governor not building a prison, is kind of sacreligeous isn't it? Especially when they are paying as much as they are just to fly them around. But it is our tax dollars funding Alaska, and oil money, so it must be that new republican reform thats taking hold, and I just don't understand the complex issues involved in it.

Jet was put on ebat but didn't sell, it was sold for 300k below broker value to an alaska entrepreneur.

At least thats another version of one more of her political lines. Most of the prepared statement thats been repeated, by her, is not exactly as she presents it to be.

She will fit behind Cheyneys desk just fine, I agree with that. An asset as a VP, is yet to be determined, but not looking like much more than one of those makeover shows. Cheyney might leave her his shotgun, he had some experience hunting big game in his day as well. lol "

" Hey Mike,

People read like two lines of your posts and fall asleep. Just thought you'd like to know. "

" Here's a little chronology for Six-College Sarah:
Fall 82 (3 weeks) - University of Hawaii (Hilo)
Fall 82 Hawaii Pacific
Spring 83 to Fall 83 - North Idaho
Fall 84 to Spring 85 - University of Idaho
Fall 85 - Matanusaka-Susitna
Spring 86 - Spring 87 - University of Idaho
Add them all together, they spell "stupid. "

" This sort of says it all:

The festering Sarah Palin "Babygate" scandal just got weirder. The McCain-Palin campaign announced that the Alaska governor's unmarried, 17 year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant. It is obvious that John McCain picked the under-qualified moose-hunting pro-life Sarah Palin to appeal to the white trash vote the Republican Party has coveted since the Ronald Reagan years, but this is ridiculous! "

" Sarah Palin: Attempted Library Censorship
According to a female resident of Wasilla, Alaska who wishes to remain anonymous writes:


While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

I heard Newt Gingrich trying to spin this one today by saying all Palin did was have a meeting with the head librarian to discuss what magazine were appropriate for teenagers to check out at the library.

Considering Newts penchant for dishonesty, I don't put much stock in anything he has to say. Remember he was the one who was carrying on behind his wife's back during the Clinton affair.

I have read several comments from different sources that said Pain went after the librarians head for this and for refusing to support her run for mayor.

What other Palin incidents/scandals/outright lies are the Repugs trying to spin? "

" Here's a little chronology for Six-College Sarah:
Fall 82 (3 weeks) - University of Hawaii (Hilo)
Fall 82 Hawaii Pacific
Spring 83 to Fall 83 - North Idaho
Fall 84 to Spring 85 - University of Idaho
Fall 85 - Matanusaka-Susitna
Spring 86 - Spring 87 - University of Idaho
Add them all together, they spell "stupid. "

Match the Shemoose up with Mr McGoo who graduated at the very bottom of his class, and you have a couple of real winners, huh? I would imagine this is why they are appealing to the red neck illiterate wing of the Republican party. "

" For a visual image of where Sara got the bulk of her "executive" experience being touted by the right wingers: Google {Images) Wasilla Alaska city hall.

If that claim wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny. "

" Now Obama has basically called Sarah Palin a pig with his little comment, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." with obvious deference to her Pit Bull/Hockey Mom joke in her speech. That is pretty low for a presidential candidate and goes against everything he has previously said. It just goes to show how desperate the Democratic party has became. "

" Lipstick on a pig is an old saying. The party it was directed at, being represented by a 72 year old man, should be quite familure with it.

Apparently it was almost a trojan condom ad slogan, but someone thought better of it. Cheyney used the same exact line, in Nov 04 in reference to Kerry being fit for office because of his service record.

I am more dissapointed they used a Cheyney quoted line, than anything. But it is an old saying, with many variations, and countless uses toward various misleadings. The republican ticket is now more of a pig in a dress, than ever. It means they as a team, aren't what they seem. Sudden character introductions, and complete platform changes tend to lead many to that conclusion.

In current times of pants suits, man bags, murses, and male cosmetics, any version lipstick or dress, on the pig, is not a gender aimed remark, its still just a pig. "

" In the same remarks reference was made to wrapping an old fish in paper and calling it change. Its still just a stinky old fish. Its good and odd that both weren't taken the same way. Feinting the occasional victim is such a sympathy gatherer. If they play that card too often, with the cried wolf too often effect, will leave them less sympathized with. They haven't even started in on the old guy really yet. "

" So Cheney used this pig line on Kerry? Thanks for pointing to the hypocrisy coming from the McCain camp on this issue, Mike P.

Given all the stuff that is coming out of the woodwork on Palin, their sensitivity is understandable, though.

I noticed that Fox on line is jumping all over this story too, which is not surprising. I'm sure the got upset with Cheney too, and being fair and balanced, they will be chastising him too. LOL!. "

" Proving once again that McCain is nothing but a big hypocrite, and not very bright too:

Obamas campaign said the lipstick on a pig expression commonly said in Washington D.C. wasnt referring to Palin and said GOP outrage is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card. The campaign also noted that McCain once used the same phrase to describe Hillary Rodham Clintons health care plan. "

" Right..... just a coincidence. "

" " Right..... just a coincidence. "
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When McCain said Hillary's plan was "lipstick on a pig," was he calling her a pig. Eddie? "

" This campaign needs all the distraction it can put out. It has no original ideas of its own. Any possible straw tied to distraction, will be grasped at firmly, and ran with like a baton in a relay race. It has no firm history of their suddenly shifted to last week position of change.

It only has Rove and others running their rudder, to try and herd a few sheep, and those who are just anti Obama with them to November. Only their opponents taking themselves out of the race, by huge misteps or scandal, will find them in the whitehouse in January.

The worse this campaign goes, the wider effect it will have on many good republicans finding their way to an elected office. Its a train wreck that has been going on for years and is still pulling car after car off the tracks. It is continuing notions of change, but not in a way that is going to benefit anyone ultimatly.

Both parties are needed, but have to be capable of compromise. Stacking the deck with one party, simply to change the letter in front of the name on their seat, is not ever going to fix anything. It compounds the problems. Change is needed in atitudes, not just one letter denoting the party.

Strong willed opinionated individuals, are not necessarily the best for politics. People have to be able to work with others, and not see every issue as an us against them, fight for life survival. They need to be on the same team, not constanly competing for scraps dropped on the floor, or tossed to them from lobbyists. They need to work as a team to get things done, and leave the ego and me me me, at home, when they go to work in any public office. "

" Fine TQ.

You're right. Maybe he said Hillary's "PLAN" was lipstick on a pig.

Obama made the same reference merely days after Gov. Palin made the infamous joke in her acceptance speech. You can witness the obvious laughter of the brainwashed idiots behind him to see that this was a deliberate jab. The man who claimed to be above "dirty politics" has now resorted to them because he realizes the shine has wore of his empty campaign. "

" What's the big fuss all about? Cheney used the same line about Kerry and McCain did the same thing when talking about Hillary. Obama used the line, and the McCain camp cries foul. Can you say hypocrite? Where were all the critics when McCain said Chelsea Clinton was ugly because she was the daughter of Janet Reno? Did Fox news headline that one? McCain is calling for an apology from Obama, but I don't think I recall hearing an apology for his nasty joke. Republicans are looking rather foolish on this issue. "

" Ed, you ain't got the brains God gave a donkey. Cheney used the same expression, and so did McCain. Obama was clearly referring to McCain and his relationship with Bush -- you would know this if Fox News had played the entire clip.

Can you think for yourself or must you repeat the same mantra pushed out from your favorite pundits? This pretending to be offended it ridiculous. Of course, when you can't stand on the issues, I suppose any distraction from them is welcomed. "

" Its likely after McCains solo public outing not drawing flies let alone a cheering adoring crowd, he will be a public recluse, unless Palin is at arms length so he gets in a few of the camera shots.

The article out on possible reasons Charlie Gibson got the get, is pretty interesting. It speculates on why him of the big 3 evening news anchors.

It is a huffington post feature, but is rather objective, in likely reasons for and some possible ones of why the other two were passed over. Besides that NBC is on the outs with the GOP. That list is likely to be pretty long shortly, hopefully.

It is possible that this event, will have long reaching lasting positive effects. This campaign is now a news driven popularity event. If not for the buzz, it would have made little more noise than it has since march, when the top of the ticket clinched his nomination. Paris Palin, has made all the difference.

The majority of the press may get inspired to not be as manipulated as they have often been. People really want to know, not be told this is all they need to know. Palin may be just what the country needed, after all. She may be the reinforcing element that drives that message home to media heads. News is more than just furnished filler. Palin may be the agent of change, so complacent coverage is much less the norm. She was small town news, three weeks ago, now its covered world wide. Its not the change they are running on, but they just now made their mind up, that was what they stood for, and they might inadvertantly be part of what helps needed change happen. McCain/Palin might just reform things from the outside in. Lots of news bombs begin to drop, when the press gets back in the mood to dig for gold, rather than settle for trinkets handed to them and just say what their told to. "

" At least I don't look like the Donkey's other end, Locke. Fox did play the entire clip, several times. Only days before, Sarah Palin made a joke that mentioned her wearing lipstick and shortly after, Obama made his statement about lipstick on a pig. You cannot be naive enough to think that was a mere coincidence, or maybe you are. Do you think Obama and his political machine would have made that "slip-up", unless it was intentional. Did you see the audience reaction? They knew what he was doing. I don't really care who said what before or when. The timing was just to perfect to be an "accident". Since when has Mr. Uppity, Harvard educated Obama been known for his folksy expressions anyway? "

" No, this is fake outrage. Better to talk about this than the issues. "

" Hey, want to know what else is fake? The whole gig about the hurricane during the convention. Look, some people used the hurricane as an excuse not to attend the convention and score points.

Let's see what is done for Ike, okay? You think Bush will come out and stop everything to brace for impact? I bet it is hardly even mentioned and the politicans will keep on pressing forward.

Anything but the issues, when the people don't agree with you on the issues. "

" So far the Dems have been able to document 5 separate incidents where McCain used the lipstick on a pig adage. After using that bit so many times, why would he complain about Obama using it? I'm thinking McCain probably just forgot, just like he probably forgot what he had for breakfast. "

" "Mr. Uppity, Harvard educated Obama?"
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So you're saying Obama is an "uppity black," Ed? Or maybe you'd like to use another word? "

" Hahahha... Oh ED MILLER, calling mr Obama Mr Uppity and a Harvard educated elite...

Not like McCain who was born into military elite, married a women worth over a 100 million and has a love for $300k suits.

No, thats not elite in the slightest. Theyre common folk! "

" Having a military family legacy, and being the son of an admiral, is to be commended.

The son of an admiral being fifth from the bottom of his academy graduating class, takes a lot of something. Remedial efforts would have likely gotten him at least in the top half, because of his family history. It took a lot of doing to be at the bottom. Some people were not fit for military. Some people were, just barely.

Service is to be commended, by all who answered the call. It sometimes hasn't. It always should.

Some people are just in the middle of things by accident. Some manage to rise up and stay right in the middle of all kinds of things. If you are always in the middle of something, eventually you get associated with some of the group photos you showed up for. McCain has been the middle man all his life. He has been in washington for decades, in both houses of congress. He has not been a leader at the forefront of any efforts on anything, in all that time. He just keeps showing up. This is the same guy that was running four years ago.

In the last four years, has he fought for getting things done, or continued to just show up and dabble in what suits his mood at the time. Last week he announced he is now for change. He has had four years to be in the front lines of making any change, and hasn't. He could have appeared to, knowing Bush couldn't knock him off a campaign again. He waited until this year to appear distant to Bush on anything. As a senior member he should have pull, to effect some change, but hasn't. His party had the majority until last year, and possibilities to change for the better were always there.

Two weeks ago, he decided now he's ready to lead change. Why should any rational person believe this guy wants to lead change, when he has always been found bouncing around right in the middle of what he now vows to fight.

Earlier references to a type cast actor fit this guy to a T. He has type cast himself. Now suddenly he thinks he can lead. Some folks do well at knowing their limitations and living within them, and staying type cast, or they put in the work in the trenches out of the spotlight. Proving they deserve a shot to be the lead, more significant or a contrasting character. He had every chance to be the guy he says he is now. He wasn't. But suddenly he will be. We're supposed to just trust him on that.

Laying claim to something, doesn't necessarily mean you own what you represent you do. We had a local fella sell some Lincoln land under the same basis this impromptu claim could be based on. Suddenly he claimed it so it was his to sell. Now someone is selling Change by the square inch, and some folks are lining up to buy it. "

" HP: "I'm thinking McCain probably just forgot, just like he probably forgot what he had for breakfast."

I would have said, "...just like he forgot how many homes he had." "