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Friday, August 29, 2008 8:34 PM CDT
COLUMN: Electrical outlets difficult to find on 'media row'



Denver, as a host city of the 2008 Democratic National Convention, offers a wonderful environment for this celebration of democracy.

As a high desert city, Denver lacks only two incidental ingredients — air and water. Hotels warned reporters to be on guard against dehydration and overexertion. A few interpreted those warnings as a directive to sit in a bar and imbibe. (I’m only kidding ... maybe).

Reporters were much more concerned with access to the three elements that were more scarce than oxygen or H2O. All reporters craved:

1. An Internet connection

2. An electrical outlet

3. And, a unique story.

With 15,000 reporters covering this event, all three resources were in short supply.

The Pepsi Center, site of the convention, offered an Internet connection for reporters. But they weren’t ready for the volume of digital data being generated.

Based on the speed of the connection it felt like evacuating the city of Chicago via an alley. Fortunately, I had a wireless card that allowed me to circumnavigate the congestion.

I was not as lucky with electrical outlets. On the first night of the convention I arrived relatively early. A host of seats, with a small table in front, and an electrical outlet underneath were available.

I didn’t appreciate my luck.

On the second night of the convention, when Hillary Clinton was speaking, seats were at a premium. Electrical outlets were but a dream. Thus began my nightmare.

I was close to the deadline for the submission to the paper, and my article was not quite completed. It was then that I got the “low battery” alert.

So I had a choice. I could complete the article, but lose power before I was able to email it.

Or I could e-mail the uncompleted article and hope that the paper would allow me to dictate the final paragraph via my cell phone.

I said a little prayer, and chose the latter. God is either a friend of desperate Republican reporters or a fan of the Mattoon Journal Gazette and the Charleston Times-Courier.

The battery lasted long enough to e-mail the article and the editor was kind enough to take my dictation for the final paragraph. I wonder if security would have allowed me to bring in a small diesel-powered generator?

The third resource of scarcity at a political convention is a unique story line. Reporters are desperate to get a scoop. But, it’s akin to roaming with a pack of wolves and wondering how to capture a tasty elk without attracting the attention of the rest of the group.

So here are the few scoops I can offer.

The first is for everyone to read. The second is only for Republicans

At Monday’s event, we were seated in front of the top aide to a Massachusetts Democratic Congressman. (I can’t you give you his name, as I want to protect my source. But if I’m hauled into court, I will sing like a bird.)

This was the night that Senator Ted Kennedy made his surprise appearance at the convention.

At the start of the address, the aide leaned forward and said, “The Senator’s cancer is terminal. He might make it to the election, but he is not expected to survive to the inaugural.”

While I disagree with most of Senator Kennedy’s positions, I respect the historical influence of his family. It was fascinating to watch the address realizing this might be his last.

Okay, my other scoop is for Republican eyes only.

I’ve warned you, if you are a Democrat you do not want to read the next few paragraphs.

OK, here goes. Ed Rendell, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, recently stated that he found the press coverage of Barack Obama to be “embarrassing” in its blatant bias for the candidate. This was a startling statement to be made by a Democrat. It should be noted that Rendell, now an Obama supporter, first backed Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

While the media was quick to disagree with Rendell’s statements, we certainly got a first-hand view.

Sitting in the press gallery of the Democratic Convention, we weren’t looking for the bias. But it was hard to avoid.

On several occasions, I was shocked to see reporters actually standing and wildly applauding the conclusion of particular speakers.

More disturbing was a reporter who loudly chastised several of his fellow reporters for not clapping at the conclusion of Joe Biden’s speech. He said, “You weren’t clapping. You must all be Republicans.”

So, the Democratic bias by reporters is so acceptable that “neutrality” is considered by some members of the media to now be a flaw.

Bob Schultz is an East Central Illinois businessman, investor and political enthusiast. Although he identifies as a Republican, he attended the Democratic National Convention to bring JG/T-C readers a local perspective.


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Martha K. Yeakel wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:20 PM:

" Ok, I guess you've already figured out I'm a big fan of these missives from the convention. Nothing like a first-hand, on site view of what is actually taking place is there? "

Read all over wrote on Aug 30, 2008 7:36 AM:

" Your Kennedy comment is tasteless, dude.

Your tech apology is not far removed from "the dog ate my homework." You should have arrived with battery fully charged and with proper power-saving settings.

What's more embarrassing is that you went to cover a convention and on the day the candidate accepted the nomination, you reported that "blogging will be light." You were a witness to history and you had your eyes closed.

And the only person you thought worth interviewing was the representative of a Republican Swift-boat-style group.

You have a great future in journalism, at least at that distinguished paper of record, the JGTC. "

Irant wrote on Aug 30, 2008 7:59 AM:

" This series has been the worst "journalism" I have ever read (and I have read some poor journalism in my day). If I did not have access to the television and to the internet, I would be bewildered. Shame on you for covering Michelle Obama's speech without hearing it, and shame on you for passing on sheer gossip about the state of Ted Kennedy's health. That, my friend, is not journalism. I hope that your career begins (as it has) and ends with the Journal Gazette/Times Courier, and I hope never to see or hear anything from or about you after I cancel my subscription. "

The Question wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:21 AM:

" I certainly agree that the news coverage of Obama has been embarrassing, Bob, but not for the reason you think. The endless broadcast news hours spent trumpeting the sayings of his minister, the lies about his being a Muslim, the brain-dead GOP nonsense about a terrorist fist bump, the criticism of Obama for not going to the Mideast, the criticism for Obama for going to the Mideast -- all Republican-scripted claptrap.
Have you been offended by all the news articles about McCains adultery. Bob? About his abysmal grades at the Naval Academy? About the fact that hes the elitist son and grandson of admirals? About all the planes he managed to crash? About his corruption as a member of the Keating Five?
I know you havent, because those articles havent appeared.
Whatever his flaws, Obama is light years smarter, more honest and more compassionate than any presidential candidate offered by the Republican Party in this century. There is literally no contest.
And lets not forget your LAST presidential candidate, although you are desperate to do so. For years, you right wingers worshipped Bush while his corruption and lies systematically brought this nation to the brink of ruin.
Funny, I didnt see the name Bush in your Republican screeds, did I, Bob? Why not tell us about Bush, Bob. Tell what a great Republican leader he is again, and how hes the true embodiment of the Republican Party. Because he is, you know.
Maybe the newspaper will continue to offer you a forum for your pre-digested Republican talking points. Of course, youll have to change the title of the column from Both Sides of the Aisle, which was ridiculous mislabeling anyway. How about Pure GOP B.S. for a logo? "

Mike P wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:34 AM:

" Batteries not included. This disclaimer can now be added to any written objectives provided by this publication to its eyes on the skies, one ear to the ground, reporting staff.

In an age where state troopers can text and drive, the lap top even is an antiquated piece of equipment to send information from. Its rumored phones now have email and internet.

Thanks for the local perspective, but seriously you didn't prominately display or mention where you were from, did you. We really don't need that kind of publicity or notoriety. So while comming clean, and wrapping up the excusses, let us know if you were interviewed, or mentioned this specific area to others. Some may need to prepare a statement, excuse, or explanation of their own. Some shredders may need to be brought in by the truck load, if any curiosity was peaked. Some business/civic/political leaders, may need to go on that long business trip to an extradition free beach. A can of worms, is not the easiest thing to get the lid back on with everything intact. Those politicians in alaska are sure to figure that out in a hurry.

Seems like there was something in the news about alaska, also historic, to a point. I don't see it prominently mentioned in the paper, except for the AP reports of it breaking. I find that Odd. Very very odd. While some new tweeking to the site seems to have a constant musical chairs going on with the articles, and now also including everything but the wierd facts from nowhere, I don't see even an anonymous OUR VIEW on it. Weird Wild Stuff. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 30, 2008 1:59 PM:

" Nothing like a first-hand, on site view of what is actually taking place is there? "

Absolutely, Marty. But were not getting it from this home grown partisan hack, are we? LOL!

I'm surprised that old Bob didn't try to interview the fair and balanced folks from the Fake news channel like Sean Hannity who were also there. I'll bet you would have really liked that. "

Rotty wrote on Aug 31, 2008 12:26 AM:

" Will someone please inform this boob to not give up his day job - either that or someone please remove his energizer batteries.

Enough is enough, already!
Geesh!
LOL! "

The Question wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:14 AM:

" Well, I see the Republicans have finally learned to fake concern for disaster victims. We saw the results of their laissez faire "Oh, let 'em drown" political philosophy during Katrina. "

ed miller wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:51 AM:

" Hey Bob,

I have to say your articles are the most horrible things I have ever read because your views are not exactly like mine. If you want some pointers about making your articles better...

Tell us how you wildly cheer at everything Obama says and does.

Tell us he's going to give us "change"

Tell us how objective the media is except that one guy from FOX, reporting that Obama sold his soul to the Devil.

Most importantly, in every article you need to mention that he is African American because that's all that matters. "

The Question wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:42 AM:

" How can you Republicans be so cruel, so heartless, so mean to your "great leader" and to a "straight shooter" who "says what he means and means what he says?" What about all those wonderful "gut decisions" he made for you, without ever even pausing to think? Where is your GRATITUDE, Republicans?
Don't you Republicans even want to have a beer with Bush anymore? (Sniff.) Come on, Cindy can supply the beer free. Pretty please? "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 31, 2008 3:51 PM:

" From the Huffington post:

We rely on elected officials not to use the power of their office to pursue personal agendas or vendettas. It's called an abuse of power. There is ample evidence that Palin used her power as governor to get her ex-brother-in-law fired. When his boss refused to fire him, she fired him. She first denied Monegan's claims of pressure to fire Wooten and then had to amend her story when evidence proved otherwise. The available evidence now suggests that she 1) tried to have an ex-relative fired from his job for personal reasons, something that was clearly inappropriate, and perhaps illegal, though possibly understandable in human terms, 2) fired a state official for not himself acting inappropriately by firing the relative, 3) lied to the public about what happened and 4) continues to lie about the situation.

Oh yeah, she would make a great VP, Marty Yeakel. And yes, you should be excited at the possibility of having this hack in office. Perhaps McCain should have had more than just one meeting with her before deciding. Maybe old John just got caught up in those big pretty eyes. LOL!

I look forward to the Repugs coming on here and defending this idiotic choice. "

The Question wrote on Aug 31, 2008 3:56 PM:

" The Republican president and vice president aren't even going to attend THEIR OWN PARTY'S CONVENTION. LOL.
Why don't you Republicans explain to us all why the GOP is running away from Bush as fast as their greedy little Guccis will carry them? "

Martha K. Yeakel wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:35 PM:

" Try to be honest for once and tell the whole story as to why the President is not going to the convention and then admit that if he did you would be the first one bleating your tiny little heart out because he was going. "

gringa wrote on Sep 1, 2008 8:07 AM:

" Give it up, Martha. Trying to confront the lefties on here with common sense and a more balanced approach to government is akin to repeatedly batting your head against the wall. When you suggest that they *Try to be honest for once and tell the whole story...*, do you really think you're causing them to rethink their positions? Trust me, it's a total waste of time.

Just post the issues and ignore their lies and half-truths. That's the best you can do for your readers. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 1, 2008 8:38 AM:

" Bush/Cheney/Chertoff let the local and state governments make the decisions regarding hurricane Katrina preparedness and response, as was the law, and many flipped out. The pathetic incompetence of the half-wit mayor of New Awlins and hard-headed refusal of Gov. Blanco to ask for federal aid - as was REQUIRED before such aid could be deployed - and Katrina 2005 and her aftermath is the result. Elect competent leadership and react like Florida, which has much stronger hurricanes, much more frequently than Louisiana has ever had, has done for DECADES, and the results speak for themselves. Hurricane Andrew in 1992 wiped out much of South Florida. Four hurricanes hit all parts of the state in 2004. There are still a very few Florida folks in their free gubmint trailers from 2004, but nothing like those in New Awlins three years after the flood. No riots in Florida. No Sean Penn and Jesse Jackson. No locals trying to roll Michael Moore back into the gulf. Just good folks helping themselves and each other. Knowing where they live and carrying appropriate property and flood insurance; personal responsibility and reactive government on all levels, not cowering in a corner or mobbing a government agency demanding $2,000 debit cards to spend at the local casino or strip club.
And then this buffoon who calls himself 'The Question' tries to spin this into another rant on Bush/Cheney. That is absolutely pathetic. Past mistakes were made. They have been learned from. More mistakes will be made, on a much smaller scale, this week, and even more will be learned. Bush/Cheney aren't going to a party, but instead will oversee disaster relief efforts that, though the federal government is NOT responsible for 72 hours after the fact, they are involved in already. Laura Bush has cancelled her speech tonight. The McCain campaign has chartered jets to get the Louisiana/Mississippi delegations back home. That's leadership and putting country before self, even if it's partly pandering to the crowd. Anyone, ANYONE - who thinks that Obama would have given up his coronation in front of 75,000 cultists is wrong, and the Clintons would have been there had CHELSEA been undergoing life-threating brain surgery during their speeches. The pubs are running from Bush, who has a 30%+- approval rating, and they're stupid? What does that say about your beloved algore who cost himself the 2000 election by treating Bill Clinton, one of the most popular presidents in recent history, like a leper during his pathetic run in 2000? With a popular outgoing president, a booming economy and a sitting vice president running to succeed his boss, it should have been a landslide. Many said only an idiot could lose to unintelligent, undereducated daddy's boy Bush in 2000; they were right.

Harry Potter: Sarah Palin has experience of a Mayor in a samll town. That's an exutive postion. She has experience as a governor in a HUGE state, geographically speaking. She has been commander in chief of a a state Nationial Guard. She knows more about energy production than anyone on either ticket; more than any of the primary candidates. Does that qualify her to be president of the United States? Of course not. Obama has lead nothing, except maybe an anniversary party for the weather undergound terrorist Ayers. He was in the illinois legislature, which is like being a towel boy for the Chicago Bears. He was 1 of 100 in the United States Senate for year or so before he began his campaign tour for healer of the world. Kinda like being the 4-H correspondent for the Chicago Tribune. No one cared. NO meningful legislation that Obama authored has been passed into law. NONE.
So, Palin has FAR more qualifications to be president than Obama does, and she's considered nowhere near ready by the leftist loons. What's that say about B.O?

As for Mr. Schultz' battery mishap: if any of you critics has a laptop with a battery life, during heavy use, of more than 2 - 3 hours, call Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. They'd love to hear from you. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 1, 2008 9:43 AM:

" prey tell us TQ, what would you and all the other Bush-bashers say when they went to big convention party while a potentially devastating hurricane was pounding the gulf coast? "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:21 AM:

" The Vice President is a heartbeat away from becoming President, so to choose someone with not one hour's worth of experience on national issues is a dangerous choice.
"If John McCain thought that choosing Sarah Palin would attract Hillary Clinton voters, he is badly mistaken.

"The only similarity between her and Hillary Clinton is that they are both women. On the issues, they could not be further apart.

"Senator McCain had so many other options if he wanted to put a women on his ticket, such as Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison or Senator Olympia Snowe they would have been an appropriate choice compared to this dangerous choice.

"In addition, Sarah Palin is under investigation by the Alaska state legislature which makes this more incomprehensible." "

sapient wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:21 AM:

" It doesn't matter to the Bush haters whether he goes to the convention or not. They are going to vilify him either way. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. This is probably why few pay any attention to their ravings. "

Read all over wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:44 AM:

" It's not unusual to get 4 hours or more from a laptop battery. It's not clear that writing a piece in a wordprocessor is heavy use either.

But what's really sad, again, is that on the day the candidate accepted the nomination -- history! whichever side you're on -- he reported that "blogging will be light." What kinda reporter is that?! "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:56 AM:

" No meaningful legislation, NONE, as reported from our friend Dave. Oh really? read on:

List of bills sponsored by Barack Obama in the United States Senate
Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act. Obama introduced two initiatives bearing his name: "LugarObama," which expanded the NunnLugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, and the "CoburnObama Transparency Act," which authorized the establishment of www.USAspending.gov, a web search engine.

Obama sponsored legislation requiring nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks. In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor. On January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007. He introduced S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections. Obama also introduced the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007.


Obama and Richard Lugar visit a Russian mobile launch missile dismantling facility Later in 2007, Obama sponsored an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges. He sponsored the "Iran Sanctions Enabling Act" supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry, and co-sponsored legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism. Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program providing one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.


Committees
Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006. In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.
As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama has made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa.

Seriously, Dave, you need to turn Fox news off and start reseaching on you own.

But I'm sure to you Republicans Sara's time as mayor of a tiny burg, and and her year and a half as governor on one of the least populated states in the union make her much more qualified than the rookie Obama with his limited legislative experience and accomplishments. LOL!

Dave, your comparisons are quite laughable. "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 11:07 AM:

" Bush flies to Texas for briefings on Gustav
Or, as we say here in the real world, another vacation.
Guess they don't have any emergency command centers in Washington, D.C, eh? LOL. "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 11:14 AM:

" When Bush canceled his planned appearance at tonight's opening session to focus on preparations for Hurricane Gustav, there were more than a few sighs of relief.
"It's a good thing," said former Rep. Dick Zimmer, the Republican candidate for Senate in New Jersey, where Bush is not especially popular. "The first thing I was asked when I won the primary was whether I planned to ask President Bush to come to New Jersey to campaign for me. The answer was no."
Dan Schnur, a former aide to John McCain, agreed. If Bush's speech had been today's main event as originally planned, he said, then media coverage of the convention might have turned into "one long Bush vs. McCain soap opera" focusing on tension between the two.
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WHAT? But why the sighs of relief from the GOP delegates that your great chimpanzee champion is staying far, far away, Martha? Pour your tiny little heart out to me and bleat away. LOL. "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 12:19 PM:

" The long-trumpeted Republican agenda of "smaller government" was fully realized in the Bush White House, which methodically dismantled and de-funded agencies like FEMA, pushing out the motivated and experienced staff in favor of corrupt political appointees.
And during Katrina, we saw the results of that deliberate Republican failure spelled out in human lives. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 1, 2008 1:56 PM:

" What is really funny is the liberal posters complaining that McCain's VP pick doesn't have enough EXPERIENCE. "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:16 PM:

" Protesters in Minneapolis have been targeted by a series of highly intimidating, sweeping police raids across the city, involving teams of 25-30 officers in riot gear, with semi-automatic weapons drawn, entering homes of those suspected of planning protests, handcuffing and forcing them to lay on the floor, while law enforcement officers searched the homes, seizing computers, journals, and political pamphlets. Last night, members of the St. Paul police department and the Ramsey County sheriff's department handcuffed, photographed and detained dozens of people meeting at a public venue to plan a demonstration, charging them with no crime other than "fire code violations," and early this morning, the Sheriff's department sent teams of officers into at least four Minneapolis area homes where suspected protesters were staying.
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Fascism on the march. And I can just hear you goose-stepping Republicans applaud. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:20 PM:

" That's an exutive (sic) postion (sic). She has experience as a governor in a HUGE state, geographically speaking.

Huh?

Yeah HUGE alright, 48th out of 50 for total population.

Obama represents millions of people as a US Senator and the entire state of Alaska is well less than even one million people. And how many people were in that gigantic metropolis she was mayor of? Let's see 100,000 people? 50,000 people? 25,000 people? 10,000 people? Try about 5,000 people. About the size of Arcola and Tuscola put together. OK, you could throw in Humboldt too. LOL!

Only a die hard partisan would try to pass this dud off as anything more than a better looking Dan Quayle. I'll concede that she is a good looking woman, but that's not a qualification to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.


I have a feeling this is just going to get better and better, as more stuff comes out about this woman. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 1, 2008 3:02 PM:

" Hey TQ, do you think they will be on the look out for Larry Craig at the airport? I remember hearing that they were going to take down all the stall partitions in the public restrooms while the Republicans were in town. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 1, 2008 3:25 PM:

" d miller wrote on Sep 1, 2008 1:56 PM:

" What is really funny is the liberal posters complaining that McCain's VP pick doesn't have enough EXPERIENCE. "

By all means, eddie, tell us about her vast experience. You can do it with one sentence too. "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 4:08 PM:

" All I know, Harry, is that when the Republican "family values" convention is in town and you hear a faint tapping in the men's restroom RUN! "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 4:33 PM:

" I haven't heard. Are you Republicans having another Purple Heart Band-Aid night at your national convention this time, like you did last time? "

injustice85 wrote on Sep 1, 2008 4:35 PM:

" an executive position, ha a crooked abuse of power as usual for Ms. Palin, and now her 17 year old daughter is pregnant what an example for our country! "

The Question wrote on Sep 1, 2008 4:52 PM:

" Hey, Bob, did you hear what your Fox News pal Neil Cavuto had to say about McCain?
Cavuto: "I'm also hearing a lot of people are waiting for Senator McCain to snap; for him to do something crazy and that just as he's on the verge of winning this, he's gonna go, you know, kinda like a Norman Bates deal." "

ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:31 PM:

" OK, Harry Potter, you're right. Alaska is NOT huge, geographically speaking. (Huh?)
All that matters is population. Please remember that the next time your hero Blago and his boyz in Springfield and Chicago shutter another downstate park, refuse to build or upgrade central/southern Illinois schools or hospitals and let the local roads' potholes grow to the size of Volkwagens; after all, every town within 100 miles of here combined wouldn't even make a good Chicago suburb. Right?

As for Obama's accomplishments: Toss out everything with a 'supported' as a qualifier. Supporting something is not an accomplishment - it is NOT authoring passed legislation. "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act."
Want a good chuckle, folks? Google that one. Wiki sez: "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act ("McCain-Kennedy Bill", S. 1033) was an immigration reform bill introduced in the United States Senate on May 12, 2005 by Senators John McCain and Ted Kennedy." Sheeesh.
Obama, inspired by Gore, no doubt, had his name attached to a bill authorizing the establishment of a web search engine. As unimportant as that is, he didn't write that one, either. Visited a facility that decommissions Russian military stuff. Quite impressive. Also wants to take a few investment bucks out of Iran's oil companies - the equivalent of you cancelling your DirecTV service. No effect on Iran whatsoever. Committees? Are you serious? Anyone who's ever been on a committee, or even attended a single meeting, knows how useless that is - not a real resume enhancer. Obama wants to require nuke plants to report leaks. How bold, considering that they are already required to do so. As for SCHIP, you might wanna do a bit of research on who champoined THAT program - it wasn't Obama, it was Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch. Bill Clinton fought tooth and nail to kill it, and initailly did. Hillary browbeat Bill into letting it pass. Obama wasn't even a senator then. He tagged on a little addendum years later. Big whoop.
"He introduced S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections" C'Mon!! Stop it. I'm dyin' here.
I'm not implying that Sarah Palin is ready to be president, but she's closer to being ready than B.O. is.
Oh, and thanks for the corrections of my typos. That added SO much to your argument. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 1, 2008 8:09 PM:

" Well now, I think you're a little confused Dave. Your last posts seem to be very convoluted, hysterical, laced with name calling and full of suppositions. What's going one with you?

Obama has been on the national scene for quite a few years now, but of course you're going to blame him for all the problems in Illinois that are the responsibility for the state government, and Obama hasn't been involved with the state government for several years, but don't let that little fact get in the way of you anti Obama rant.

And as far as the spelling notations go, I was only showing you what its like to read pettiness, like most of your last message was. You know, a tit for tat sort of thing. I use spellcheck, but even with that I know some misspelled words get through, and certainly my grammar is rather poor at times.

I see you managed to try to downplay all of Obama's accomplishments, and just think I didn't even mention any of his legislative accomplishments as a state rep. I'm sure you would have tried to downplay them with your illogical spin too.

I'm anxious to hear of anything Palin has done, so far all we have heard is scandal after scandal, starting in with her decisions as a mayor and carrying over to the state house. Surely she had done more than act like Leona Helmsley when some one gets in her way. I really would like to hear about her expertise about energy production as you claimed. Keep in mind having a husband who works in a low level job at BP doesn't count.


It sounds like you must have been hiding in the oval office, that is since you seems to think you know just what went on in the White house under Clinton's. That wasn't you wearing a black wig and a blue dress was it?

Seriously Dave, I'm getting concerned for you if you actually think this woman is actually more qualified than Obama for the job.

I think we both know what the real issue is, but I really don't expect you to admit it.

Oh.. and...uh... that terrorist that you right wingers like to bring up was doing his thing when Obama was 8 years old. Maybe you should stick to the Pastor Wright story. "

Early Bird wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:02 AM:

" Looking at the argument between Harry and Dave, that took place one here yesterday, I would add that Dave seems to have confused the words support and sponsor, when it comes to describing Obama's legislative efforts.

In addition, I would say that Dave's attempt to downplay Obama's legislative experience was rather inane, disingenuous and at times rather dishonest. I actually lost count of all the red herrings our friend Dave threw into his argument.

Was this a reaction stemming from Dave's realization that McCain made a poor choice when picking someone with such a weak background, who will, in all likelihood add nothing to his candidacy, and will, given all of her personal baggage and past scandals, actually detract from it and cause him to spend the rest of his time on the campaign trial defending his poor choice.


It's unbelievable that those on the right can actually claim that she is more qualified than Obama, to lead this nation. I never thought I would see people justifying someone for such a high office by pointing out her experience as the mayor of a tiny burg, and governor, for a year and a half, of the 3rd from the least populated state in the union. Not only is this ridiculous, it's downright insulting and shows how desperate her supporters are. Touting her experience as the mayor of a tiny boon dock town in Alaska only serves to illustrate her weak resume. "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:04 AM:

" Too bad nobody told Palin that you're supposed to talk about Americans' undying love for Iraqi "freedom," and not admit the fact that the Iraq invasion was really about seizing their resources for the oil companies that bribe GOP politicians.
In a recent BusinessWeek interview, Palin admitted that she believes the Iraq war was fought because of oil:
"We are a nation at war and in many [ways] the reasons for war are fights over energy sources, which is nonsensical when you consider that domestically we have the supplies ready to go." "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:10 AM:

" As I recall, Fox News used the term "Baby Mama" to apply to the LEGALLY WED mother Michelle Obama.
Does that mean we should properly refer to Palins daughter as Baby Mama, and Palin herself as Baby Grandmama? Enlighten us, Fox fans. "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:37 AM:

" Palin's such a great patriot she favored a vote for secession from the United States.
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.
And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:15 AM:

" Let me get this straight. You are arguing that your democratic PRESIDENTIAL candidate has more experience than the Republican's VICE-Presidential candidate. How pathetic is that? "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:51 AM:

" The Intrade prediction market has opened trading on whether Sarah (cough, cough, "Harriet Miers") Palin is to be withdrawn as Republican VP nominee before 2008 presidential election. At 8:55 a.m. Tuesday morning, the market is selling the prediction at 18 a share and rising. That means 18 percent of traders think Palin will be removed. "

Becky wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:57 AM:

" I wonder if she makes McCain mad, will he call her the c-word too? Heh. "

father bob wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:10 AM:

" ed miller wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:15 AM:
" Let me get this straight. You are arguing that your democratic PRESIDENTIAL candidate has more experience than the Republican's VICE-Presidential candidate. How pathetic is that? """"

mr. ed....you need to do your own research instead of listening to talk radio and watching Fixed News. "

father bob wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:16 AM:

" gringa wrote on Sep 1, 2008 8:07 AM:
" Give it up, Martha. Trying to confront the lefties on here with common sense and a more balanced approach to government is akin to repeatedly batting your head against the wall. When you suggest that they *Try to be honest for once and tell the whole story...*, do you really think you're causing them to rethink their positions? Trust me, it's a total waste of time.

Just post the issues and ignore their lies and half-truths. That's the best you can do for your readers. """"
_________
how freeeking laughable is that? you can actually post those last two sentences after upholding the history's biggest liar, murdering coward and his thugs for the last 8 years??....you need professional help. "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:38 AM:

" Oh, nothin' could be failin' like a campaign bailin' out Sarah Palin in the mor-or-or-ning "

Mike P wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:40 AM:

" McCain had a list of 20, Palin was chosen from. Be it darts, names in a hat, how ever it happened, with two months to go he could easily go through half a dozen, draws in the hat, by the time november hits. She was his #1, and it has been 5 whole days. The next couple, might not make it a full day each, once the sharks are feeding, rather than circling. All this does take him out of their path, more than a competent, less controversial, less confounding pick would. He could easily throw a few more tokens, under the straight talk express bus, pick a real one in the last two weeks, and single handedly do more than anyone, to remove corruption in the republican party in the process. The more he gets charged, by December, the more names get throwm a pardon commemorative bush blanket, on dec 31. They are a tents already folded up Party. They know it is a foregone conclusion, and why subject possibly future role players, to this. The electoral college, would have to meet on a spring break trip to Mexico, to give the ruling party, another four years. Votes will be cast and counted, but reality has already set in, with those capable of realizing it. They are looking ahead to 8 or 12 years from now, to try to recover from the last 8. "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:05 PM:

" Palin is inexperienced, knowing little or nothing about foreign policy or national issues, George Lakoff notes. She is really an anti-feminist, wanting the government to enter women's lives to block abortion, but not wanting the government to guarantee equal pay for equal work, or provide adequate child health coverage, or child care, or early childhood education; she shills for the oil and gas industry on drilling; she denies the scientific truths of global warming and evolution; she misuses her political authority; she opposes sex education and her daughter is pregnant; and, rather than being a maverick, she is on the whole a radical right-wing ideologue. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:54 PM:

" I'll not address the LIE, not misperception, that Palin supported the secession of Alaska - it's documentedly false.
It really doesn't matter thast palin has more EXECUTIVE experience than 'community organizer' Obama, or that Obama is in DEEP debt to the corrupt Chicago machine. He's not qualified, she's not qualified. It cancels out. That said, it's really a moot point in Illinois. Obama's gonna win Illinois, and most of you Obama slurpers can't vote anywhere else. If the MSM gets their wish and the Chosen One wins the election in November, I'll survive. I'll keep my job. I'll keep my house. I'll keep my cars. I'll travel when and where I wish. I won't pout for years like y'all will. Michael Moore said that he couldn't get out of bed for three days after Bush won in 2004. Yanno, On November 5, I'll go about my business as usual. I'd prefer that a socialist not be elected president, but if he is, I'll still be fine. It's been eight years, and some of you still check under your beds and in your closets for Rove and Cheney every night. Obama can't get to me, and I know it. I'm not looking for the gubmint to hold my hand and give me freebie after freebie wheteher I deserve it or not, so I don't need him. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:59 PM:

" you can actually post those last two sentences after upholding the history's biggest for the last 8 years??....you need professional help. "

Oh, and Father Bob: 'the history's biggest liar, murdering coward and his thugs' beat the best that your guys could conme up with in 2000 and 2004, even with the MSM on your side.... a stupid, drunk, coked up, draft-dodging business failure won TWO terms against your best and brightest. 'how freeeking laughable is that?' "

gringa wrote on Sep 2, 2008 3:40 PM:

" The Question says *That means 18 percent of traders think Palin will be removed.*

Even a small dose of common sense would help you with the concept of relevance. That 18% you cite also means that an overwhelming 82% of traders think Palin will NOT be removed. Perhaps the 18% who are on the wrong side of this wager should call the toll-free number for Gamblers Anonymous.

By the way, the Buy is now at 14.9 and the Sell is now at 13.2. LOL, think of the liberal fortunes already lost today! "

The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 4:47 PM:

" Oh, yes, let's all keep politicians' families off limits, by all means.
John McCain: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."
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The Question wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:01 PM:

" On the occasion of the Republican National Convention, lets consider the legacy of the Republican president who has been shoved so rudely out of the spotlight, shall we?
Bush, his party and his abject supporter John McCain have provided:
 Lies to manipulate us into war.
 A $10 trillion national debt in place of a budget surplus.
 American torture.
 Widespread, unchecked spying
on American citizens.
 The end of Habeas Corpus.


 Failure to develop an energy plan beyond oil company greed.
 The Enron loophole.
 The mortgage meltdown.
 The plunging American dollar.
 Abu Ghraib.
 The Katrina
 disaster.
 Failure to capture the mastermind of 9-11.
Shall I go on? "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:18 PM:

" .... a stupid, drunk, coked up, draft-dodging business failure... Finally a Repug tells the truth about Bush! This is a good sign, maybe he'll come clean about McCain too. LOL! "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:36 PM:

" ...the history's biggest liar, murdering coward. I can't believe he even said this about Bush too. "

gringa wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:53 PM:

" "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

LOL. Finally, a flaming lib tells the truth about Chlesea and her dad, Janet. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:23 PM:

" Hey TQ you forgot the Bush's legacy of thousands of dead terrorists who never got the chance to attack our soil and a crumbling Al-Qaeda organization. "

injustice85 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:10 PM:

" I love how people get state and U.S. senates mixed up! but none the less amen to the question! "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:32 AM:

" " Hey TQ you forgot the Bush's legacy of thousands of dead terrorists who never got the chance to attack our soil and a crumbling Al-Qaeda organization. "
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The Al Qaeda terrorists are perfectly safe, Gringa. They were from Saudi Arabia, the country that Bush protects because they have spent decades paying off his crooked family. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:11 AM:

" Hey, Sarah, your own daughter didn't listen to you. What makes you think world leaders will? "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Fox News is as predictable as a yawn. That's why its effectiveness as a fascist propaganda engine continues to slip.
Even regular Fox News viewers, who are remarkably stupid, can probably remember that Fox was claiming that John McCain was a lunatic a mere six months ago. "

Mike P wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:17 AM:

" Odds are like horse racing, the bigger the number difference, the less likely it is given odds to happen. Palin leaving ticket is showing 8 to 1 today, with 33 to 1 she goes by the end of the week. Big number means more of a long shot. Small number, means bet to be more likly to happen. If you are for her being a good choice, and sticking it out till november, the bigger her odds are, the more people betting agree with you. Odds makers report, one of the few times the odds have have been wrong, in the last 100 years, in the outcome of the election, was the 2000 elections popular vote. "

krakatoa wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:01 AM:

" " Lies to manipulate us into war.
 A $10 trillion national debt in place of a budget surplus.
 American torture.
 Widespread, unchecked spying
on American citizens.
 The end of Habeas Corpus.


 Failure to develop an energy plan beyond oil company greed.
 The Enron loophole.
 The mortgage meltdown.
 The plunging American dollar.
 Abu Ghraib.
 The Katrina
 disaster.
 Failure to capture the mastermind of 9-11."

The war yeah the intelligence was faulty. What can we do? We started the mess so we have to finish it. When the Iraqis secure their own country history books may look back on this war as one of the most influential, for good reasons, of the 21 century(and yes i'm aware that it could go the other way too). But yea Im not arguing that we can Monday quarterback it and say we never should have went there.

The debt: Yeah that started way before 2000. And to blame on one party is absurd. We havent taken a single step towards reducing that debt since the Democrats took control.

American torture: What do you suggest? We ask terrorists nicely to please give us the intel we need? In a perfect world torture wouldnt exist but this is the real world. So you want for us to be the only country in the world that doesnt use questionable tactics for interrogation? Our enemies will thank people like you for their pleasant vacation in Cuba at our expense.

Widespread spying on Americans: Well I like my privacy as much as the next guy but I have nothing to hide so they can listen in on every one of my phone calls if they want. But the real question here is where in the US Constitution does it say we have the right to privacy? Ill help you out its not in there.

End of Habeas corpus: Habeas corpus is not guaranteed again after a simple reading of the constitution youll understand that habeas corpus can be suspended during times of emergency or war. Having said that, with the exception of during World War II Habeas corpus for citizens in general hasnt been suspended since the Lincoln presidency. It was only removed for persons deemed unlawful enemy combatants. So unless you or anyone else on here is funded by a terrorist organization habeas corpus is still in effect.

Failure to develop an energy plan: LOL what politician has? You can say this about every politician since the 70s when it became apparent we needed another energy source.

Enron Loophole: You do realize that CFMA was signed into effect by President Clinton right?

Mortgage meltdown: You cant blame that on any single party. Dems & Reps both are as guilt as the other. Unless we had a president who was an economist of a psychic it would have happened regardless of which party controlled the oval office or CONGRESS (who you seem to just give a complete pass for all your accusations). American citizens also deserve blame for not being better consumers as a result of poor economic knowledge.

The plunging American dollar: Hey Im all with you on this but this isnt a partisan issue its all politicians. Republican and Democrat no free passes here.

Abu Grahib: Again this is another issue that would be a non issue in most countries. What do you want? Should we make sure their beds are made and put a mint on their pillows? And I got news for you. I can guarantee you conditions like that have been around under every president during the last century.

Katrina: Well currently we cannot control the weather. New Orleans has been vulnerable for years. Why wasnt it taken care of during Carter or Reagans presidency? And the federal government should not be responsible for evacuations. The feds are slow and unorganized with everything they do evacuations are a state matter and Louisiana failed. And yes support was slow because weve never faced a disaster of that magnitude so of course or government was slow to react. It was a learning experience and hopefully relief efforts will be much better in the future. Mother Teresa could have been president and nothing would have improved.

Failure to capture Bin Laden: Well Clinton had the chance to get him and he didnt do it. So why not use him as the scapegoat? And yeah we failed on this one but it was by no means an easy task. And now well never see the day he getss captured because more than likely hes been dead for years now. Weve never had confirmation of any of his death reports but when you look at his age, need for a dialysis machine, and the many other factors its highly unlikely that well never find anything more than a grave if were lucky.

Has the republican party been great during Bushs reign? No and far from it. But the way you blame all these issues on the whole republican party while sparing all other politicians of other parties from blame is just plain ridiculous. It leads me to wonder where you get your ideas from. High times? As horrible a president as i beleive bush has been he was still the better candidate in each of the elections. Which quite frankly, is very sad. With the candidates we have to choose from today its pretty much a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:45 PM:

" Oopsy! Guess who's got "minister problems" now? LOL.
Officials of Gov. Sarah Palin's former church, Wasilla Assembly of God, in Alaska, shut down part of their website Wednesday, stating that their server could not handle the higher-than-normal traffic.
The part of the website no longer functioning appears to be the section where the sermons of senior Pastor Ed Kalnins were available, including one from 2004 -- after Palin left the church -- where he suggested heaven wasn't necessarily in the cards for anyone who voted for Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
Also no longer available is the video of a speech Palin delivered in June at the graduation service for the church's School of Ministry. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:50 PM:

" "American torture: What do you suggest?"
I suggest civilized human beings do not torture people. And you can save your ticking nuke nonsense for when you play your "24" video game. The reason Bush and Cheney like to torture people is because it allows them to indulge their lust for POWER. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:01 PM:

" "The debt: Yeah that started way before 2000. And to blame on one party is absurd. We havent taken a single step towards reducing that debt since the Democrats took control."
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Excellent attempt to lie there. You will recall, however, that Clinton, with the help of a Republican Congress, managed to actually generate a budget surplus. Instead of emulating that accomplishment, Bush has increased the national debt from $5.7 trillion to a staggering $9.654 trillion and counting. Each citizen's share of this debt is now $31,690. Bush is the most insanely fiscally irresponsible public official in American history. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:27 PM:

" Laurence Britts 14 Elements of a Fascist State:
No. 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
Sadly, it came as no surprise when we learned that U.S. military trainers at Guantnamo Bay based their interrogation techniques on a 1957 USAF study of Chinese Communist torture used.
"Routine" treatment of prisoners witnessed by the FBI included bending the detainee's thumbs back and grabbing his genitals, chaining detainees' hands and feet together for as long as a full day and leaving them to defecate on themselves, terrorizing them with dogs, stripping them, dressing them in women's underwear and subjecting them to blaring music, freezing cold and burning heat. And thats only what has been officially confirmed by the U.S. government.
U.S. officials did make one change to the communist torture techniques they adopted. They renamed them harsh interrogation.
Cases of U.S. torture have been extensively documented by the International Committee of the Red Cross and by journalists at numerous locations in Iraq, including Abu Ghraib. U.S. prisoners have also been disappeared or rendered to countries where torture is routine. A CIA assessment warned the Bush administration in 2002 that up to a third of the detainees at Guantanamo Bay may have been imprisoned by mistake, but White House officials ignored the finding and subjected them to imprisonment and torture anyway.
Despite the strenuously spread right-wing lies to the contrary, those who are on the side of the terrorists are the people who endorse torture and secret, permanent imprisonment. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:30 PM:

" As I recall, the first time I heard the name "Osama bin Laden" it was from President Clinton on TV, identifying bin Laden as the greatest threat the western world faced. I also recall that when Clinton tried to kill bin Laden, Republicans shrieked that he was only trying to distract us from the all-important oral sex case.
By contrast, Bush blithely ignored a presidential intelligence report saying that bin Laden was determined to strike in the U.S. Thus is history rewritten by lying right-wing hacks and their corporate news prostitutes. "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:46 PM:

" Would you like to know what the top Republican pundits REALLY think of Sarah Palin? Here it is, on a live mic.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 5:49 PM:

" Have a look at this for the extremely rare and thrilling experience of two prominent Republicans speaking honestly (when they think the mic is off, of course).

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM:

" Palin Wants Independent Trooper-Gate Probe Called Off

By Zachary Roth - September 3, 2008, 10:09AM

In the latest sign that Sarah Palin's promised cooperation with the Trooper-Gate investigation is failing to materialize, her lawyer is now demanding that the entire case be taken out of the hands of the independent prosecutor hired by Alaska lawmakers, and given over to a state personnel board -- whose three members were appointed by the governor herself.

In an unusual "ethics disclosure" filed last night, along with related documents, to the state Attorney General, Palin's lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, asked the personnel board to look into the firing of Walt Monegan, the former public safety commissioner at the center of the case. Van Flein also asked the legislature to drop its own investigation, contending that only the personnel board has jurisdiction over ethics. And he suggested that if the legislature didn't agree to hand the matter over to the personnel board, Palin would not be made available for a deposition.

This woman sounds like she's been taking advise from the Bush Cheney regime, whose usual game is to stonewall everything to death and then claim executive privilege.

Oh yeah Sara, that board made up by your politically appointed hacks is sure to be objective. LOL! "

The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM:

" Why not run Ronald Reagan for vice president? After all, even a dead person is more qualified than Sarah Palin. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:31 PM:

" The Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:01 PM:
" You will recall, however, that Clinton, with the help of a Republican Congress, managed to actually generate a budget surplus."

Must be nice to be President during peacetime (except when he abandoned troops in Somalia) and during a stock market artificially inflated by the housing and internet bubbles.

But I can understand why you want Obama to tackle the debt. With his vast experience as a "community organizer", he cold put together a heck of a bake sale. "

Mike P wrote on Sep 4, 2008 12:45 AM:

" Bush had every opportunity to be a peace time president. He chose to finish daddys fight, what ever the cost, instead. Housing and stock bubbles and crashes, or subtancially insignificant uninformed dips, have happeed during his last term.

He just promised a billion more to Georgia. I guess when your trillions in the red, whats a billion more, between oil comrades.

He adopted the reincarnated foreign policy that fought beside, funded, trained, armed and organized bin ladin back in the 80's, and legitimized and enabled him as a hero, of the war with russia, in the process among his followers. Propelling him to be able, to start al kaida.

Its the republican way. Any means necessary, consequences will fall where they may, for as long as they have to. The only thing missing was bringing ollie north back to take the fall, for it all being repeated, and seing it all on c span. I don't recall, I invoke the fifth, I have executive privilege, and so do my minions. No givsie backsies.

When you give your self special powers, and immunity, as long as bin laden stays on the run, you can just slide through it to the last day of the second term, any blames caught can all dissapear with the stroke of a pen, on a stack of pardons.

Bush had potential to change the direction the country would go for centuries to come. He reacted instead of acted, and now it is once again up to the people, to pay this all off, and see how long until we get misled off to war again, or called off to fight people we trained, armed and organized.

A few extremists, came and trained here for months. Thousands of innocent people have been killed and wounded. This kind of policy perpetuates extremists motives, and recruiting. Surgical covert direct missions, could have had this resolved years ago. Bush chose to overextend, and strain our military resources, rather than to properly utilize them prudently. Weakness have been exposed, needless losses of lives, and money by the tanker full has gone wasted. "

The Question wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:50 AM:

" With his vast experience as a "community organizer", he cold put together a heck of a bake sale. "
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Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review. That's a little different than Sarah Pit Bull, who was president of the Harper Valley PTA. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:30 AM:

" Mike P wrote on Sep 4, 2008 12:45 AM:
" Bush had every opportunity to be a peace time president..."

Right..... when those people flew planes into the twin towers, he should have used economic sanctions. "

The Question wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:54 AM:

" Right..... when those people flew planes into the twin towers, he should have used economic sanctions.
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Right ... It's just a darn shame Bush invaded the wrong country, and let the mastermind who planned and executed 9-11 escape, isn't it? "

The Question wrote on Sep 4, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Stand back. Here are the McBush Republican Party policies at work.
---
Wall Street tumbled Thursday on more disappointing economic news retailers posted sluggish back-to-school sales reports and the government said the number of workers seeking unemployment benefits spiked last week. The Dow Jones industrials fell nearly 250 points.
Investors, already highly anxious about the overall state of the economy, were further unsettled when many of the nation's retailers said shoppers curtailed spending last month due to higher gas and food prices. Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world's largest retailer, beat Wall Street projections because of its discounts. "

Mike P wrote on Sep 4, 2008 2:26 PM:

" Setting up shop in afghanistan was just as bad a decision as nation building in Iraq. "

Matt Toon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 2:45 PM:

" Did Palin actually try to get books banned at her local library? If so, that's pretty serious. I remember a number of years ago a Mattoon school board member was defeated for re-election partly because he advocated book banning. If he could be defeated in conservative Mattoon IL, surely a case could be made that she should be defeated for vice president of the U.S. "

The Question wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:02 PM:

" Now we know Caribou Barbie can read from a Teleprompter. That does put her one up on Bush, doesn't it? "

The Question wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:20 PM:

" Caribou Barbie has a peculiar academic track record.
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Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin attended five colleges in six years before graduating from the University of Idaho in 1987.
Federal privacy laws prohibit the schools from disclosing her grades, and none of the schools contacted by The Associated Press could say why she transferred.
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Not exactly president of the Harvard Law Review, though, was she? "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:37 PM:

" Matt Toon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 2:45 PM:

" Did Palin actually try to get books banned at her local library? If so, that's pretty serious.

Google: Palin's book banning "

injustice85 wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM:

" Palin's teleprompter couldn't have been bigger, it took other people an entire day to fix and redo her speech "

The Shadow wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:31 PM:

" iNjUsTiCe85 NeEdS sOmE rOuGe FoR tHaT pAnAcHe PoTtEr SpOt On HiS nOsE. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:48 PM:

" Time magazine quoted a political opponent of Palin's who stated she approached a librarian about how to get rid of books that some voters found offensive. The liberal media and the gullible idiots who regurgitate their biased lies are trying to make it look like she's one of Bradbury's firemen torching books. "

The Question wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:21 AM:

" Did you righties happen to notice that "Reformer" McCain is running against Bush? "

The Question wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:25 AM:

" Time magazine quoted a political opponent of Palin's who stated she approached a librarian about how to get rid of books that some voters found offensive.
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Um, that's what book censorship is, Eddie. Caribou Barbie IS one of the one of the firemen in Fahrenheit 9-11.
Oh, sorry. That's Fahrenheit 451, isn't it? Now what was Fahrenheit 9-11...? "

Matt Toon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:05 AM:

" Here is further evidence that the mainstream news media is not biased against the Republicans: A couple days ago the McCain-Palin campaign issued a public statement denying a story in the National Enquirer that Palin had had an affair with a business partner of her husband. The mainstream media could easily have justified using this denial (and playing it up rather big). After all, there should be nothing wrong with using a statement issued by candidates for president and vice president of the United States. Instead, the mainstream media either played down or, as in most cases, totally ignored the entire matter. If anything, I'd say that's bias IN FAVOR of the GOP. "

The Question wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:55 AM:

" You are correct, Mr. Toon. The real mission of the corporate media, now owned by a mere six corporations, is to reassure the public about the benevolence of corporate-welfare capitalism and to justify both economic and social inequality and the dominant role of the corporation as the provider of income and benefits. "

ed miller wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:08 PM:

" So TQ, exactly what books did she TRY to ban and how did she go about doing it? The only source I found was TIME's article which used a political opponent as a source. So what are the facts? Did you also happen to read that the librarian in question was very vocal in support of the opposing mayoral candidate. Now, isn't it quite common for a politician to fire people who supported the opposition?

Oh and Mat Toon, what should we make of the Enquirer's story about Obama's alleged affairs? Why didn't the main stream media pick up on that? I think that sounds like bias to the Dems, don't you think? "

ed miller wrote on Sep 5, 2008 1:36 PM:

" Oh yes, another favorite of the liberals. The Republicans take money from the poor and give it to the big bad corporations. The corporate tax rate in the US is over 39%, second highest in the world. Most of the other high taxing nations are European and enjoying double-digit unemployment as a result. It's no wonder companies are flocking overseas and taking our jobs with them. If Obama is elected he will tax them even more to fund his plan to have government bureaucrats micromanage every aspect of your life from your health care to your child's education. "

Harry Potter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 1:37 PM:

" Did you righties happen to notice that "Reformer" McCain is running against Bush? "

Not to be nit picky, my friend, but shouldn't that have been McCain is running away from Bush? LOL! "

The Question wrote on Sep 5, 2008 2:07 PM:

" The Anchorage Daily News has the story on Sarah Censorship, Eddie. I tried to post the link for you, but it didn't appear for some reason. "

The Question wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:04 PM:

" You Rethuglicans like to talk about connecting the dots. But can you?
When your little monkey and his organ grinder took office in 2001, the price of gas was $1.50 a gallon and it cost roughly $900 to heat your home during the winter. This winter, its likely to be $2,500. And Exxon-Mobil just gobbled up the largest quarterly profit in human history.
Go ahead, connect the dots, Republiscum. Here's a hint, if you find it too tough. You'll get a picture of a hand and a middle finger. "

injustice85 wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:26 PM:

" thats sweet SHADOW but your just another example of someone that can't handle the truth and hey on top of that, just another example of the types of people we don't want in charge of this country "

ed miller wrote on Sep 6, 2008 11:16 PM:

" In Nov 2006, when the Democratic congress was elected, the price of a gallon of gas was about $2.23. Not bad considering a war in the Mid-East and Katrina. Nobody was really complaining too much. Since then, the demand has skyrocketed and market factors have driven the price through the roof. Well, your President and several Republicans wanted nuclear power and more drilling and the Dems blocked it. Since the price of oil is highly affected by the futures market, the mere suggestion of more drilling will drive the price down. We know more drilling is only a temporary solution, but it is at least something. So the next time you complain about spending $100 to fill your SUV, if there's an OBAMA sticker on the bumper, you might as well get used to it. "

The Question wrote on Sep 7, 2008 8:54 AM:

" The problem is the inherent oddity of the incumbent party running on change. Here were Republicans -- the party that controlled the White House for eight years and both houses of Congress for five -- wildly
cheering the promise to take on Washington. I don't mean to be impolite, but who's controlled Washington this decade?
That is from arch-conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer, of all people. "

 


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