" a great man and a great pick by obama. mccain won't have one minute's peace from here on out. "

" Sen. Barack Obama and his newly-picked running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, may have sparred during the primaries. But on one issue they are firmly united: the need to forge closer ties to the government of Iran.
Kaveh Mohseni, a spokesman for the Student Movement Coordination Committee for Democracy in Iran, calls Biden a great friend of the mullahs.
He notes that Bidens election campaigns have been financed by Islamic charities of the Iranian regime based in California and by the Silicon Iran network, a loosely-knit group of wealthy Iranian-American businessmen and women seeking to end the U.S. trade embargo on Iran.
In exchange, the senator does his best to aid the mullahs, Mohseni argues.
Bidens ties to pro-Tehran lobbying groups are no secret. But so far, the elite media has avoided even mentioning the subject.
Ken Timmerman

It will be interesting. "

" Sen. John McCain and his newly-picked running mate, Gov. Mitt Romney, may have sparred during the primaries. But on one issue they are firmly united: the need to forge closer ties to the dominion of the Underworld. Beelzabub, a spokesman for the Satanic Movement Conglomeration Committee for Wickedness in the Abyss, calls Romney a great friend of the Devil-Worshippers. He notes that Romney's election campaigns have been financed by Satanic charities of the Diabolic regime based in California and by the Silicon Demon network, a loosely-knit group of wealthy Satanic-American businessmen and women seeking to end the U.S. trade embargo on the Nether Void. In exchange, the governor does his best to aid the Satanites, Beelzabub argues. Romney's ties to pro-Devil lobbying groups are no secret. But so far, the elite media has avoided even mentioning the subject.

Ken Timmerman

It will be interesting! "

" Biden is an excellent choice and I too agree this campaign has already lasted too long! Oh, and sapient, I have 2 words for your post.....Iran-Contra. "

" Glad to see Barry pick some one with a resume like his own. "

" The Joe Biden pick is not change, its more of the same. "

" more of Obama's same, thats a good thing, he took Obama's words and put some agression behind them "

" bad call on romney sapient, McCain has a woman now, way for him to bring in attention, won't last long "

" "Won't last long." We'll see but it will be interesting. "

" Yeah, Biden is going to have fun with McCain's Sarah Palin. What happened to the experience fight McCain? The governor of Alaska on her second year who used to be mayor of a town of 6500 people. Man, that's some HUGE experience. I bet she's ready to lead. I guess she adds up to McCain's journey of continuing a Bush administration. She's anti-choice among many other issues, but she LOVES oil and she LOVES guns. "

" shes already got a shady background, i think McCain blew it with this decision, the lack of experience issue is definetely out the door "

" Yeah she may have been the mayor of a town of 6500 but it is as much if not more experience than Obama has. What has he ever led? Or what has he ever done? Name one bill that has his name on it. It's all smoke and no fire. About the only thing is he seems to be is a professional at running for an office. "

" At least the lack of experience isn't at the head of the ticket like it is on the Democratic side. "

" What's her connection to Ted Stevens? Anybody know? "

" better than lack of common sense as the republicans so choose to lead with, Obama has worked with community after community "

" Kind of surprized this View didn't get mothballed, when the VP pick came out today. Obviously, the papers think tank, didn't account for the remote possibility of anything close to this candidate being a choice.

Hey it worked Putting the unknown Quale on the ticket, not so long ago. Now he can be more compared to george sr, than jr. With some alaskan govenment officials, being under investigation, I would think they might have just been the most surprized at the pick. Now the press and others, will be headed to the top of the world, to find out any thing they can, in two months.

I hope the anticipated slugfest is avoided. Stick to issues, facts, and policy, even with all the opportunity for attack this pick opens up. directly attacking a woman, new mom, child with downs, and several other don't pick on those people issues, I am sure, it just makes it petty. Part of several reasons for it I am sure. Not as likely to go right at her. Unknown candidate, so it would take a brigade of archaeologists, to sift with dynamite, to dig up as much dirt as McCain has had cleaned off by someone else from his expensive shoes, since the last time he ran for office.

Frankly Politics is a persuit, someone usually isn't just thrown into it, they want to be there. But i'm a girl, shouldn't change it. Equality of pay, equality of price should be expected, as crass as that sounds. When it is over, she may be lucky to still be Governor of Alaska. But that McCain sure is a maverick, aint he. Hopefully the defenition of maverick isn't changed to reflect what this campaign is. Just like it being mistakenly used, like much of the english and sometimes spanish language among others were in the Bush administrations.

Don't Haul of and slug her Biden, but send a few warning shots across the bow, and ship her back to the Northern lights. Hard to think a more out of touch person could have been found than McCain. Him being the one to do it, reinforces just how much so he is. Baseball season is over in October, But count on McCain/Palin to be out there manning left field, in November. "

" just wondering: Okay, one bill that was amde possible with the help of Senator Obama is the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006. In fact, he has sponsored 131 bills since the beginning of his term and co-sponsored over 600. He hasn't done nothing as you'd like people to believe. While in IL, he worked hard to improve health benefits for children among various other tasks. Sure, Obama hasn't been in office for 30 years, but he hasn't done nothing. I'd rather have someone who actually knows how the federally government works over someone who knows how to take care of 700,000 people. "

" Hello misogynists! the little woman is about to rock your world. and the MILLIONS of conservative women will let you know what it means to hear them ROAR. oh and tired ole Joe is going to stand in this one's way? LOL! you are all too funny. as for experience, she has much more than the community activist the socialist party nominated for the top job.

Okay, she has not been liviing off of our tax dollars for three decades like plagiarzing slojoe but instead raising a family, fighting for her community, and standing up for what is right. Hockey mom is the new sheriff in town. So get used to it. "

" What does mcwimpy,s insignifcant other think of seethru sarah as runningnmate? "

" " What's her connection to Ted Stevens? Anybody know? "
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Her connection is she had a video endorsement from him on her website until the very morning the VP announcement was made. Then it suddenly vanished. LOL. "

" Her connection is she had a video endorsement from him on her website until the very morning the VP announcement was made. Then it suddenly vanished. LOL. "

Sort of like Cindy's Mother Theresa's whopper, huh TQ.

It must take several people to keep up with removing all of the McCain's lies from their web sites. LOL!

Do they have to do the same thing with his VP pick too? "

" Her and McCain have met one time, ONE TIME! He wants Hillary's voters, it's a publicity stunt at best, she said she doesn't even really like politics!!!!!!!!!!! "

" Injustice85: When did I say anything about Romney? "

" Let's see....What is required of the VP?

able to represent US in state functions when President is too busy or said nation is not important enough to warrant his attention.

Mostly they are for election purposes only, to get votes from an important state or demographic group that will prove difficult for the presidential candidate, or to shore up some perceived weakness of the candidates themselves. "

" my mistake sapient that was locke!...my bad "

" The Vice President of the United States[1] is the first person in the presidential line of succession, becoming the new President of the United States upon the death, resignation, or removal of the president, serving out the balance of that presidential term no matter how much or little time remains in it. Every presidential term ends on January 20 of the year immediately after a presidential election. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber.[2] He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.

Considering Mccain's age, there is a very good chance that she would have to take over. Of course its only speculation on the part of myself and others, but she does seem to lack the experience needed to do the job.

You have to admit her resume is rather thin. Small town mayor and only in the second year as governor of one of the least populated state in the country is not very impressive for a person who would sit a heartbeat away from the presidency.

In your attempt to downplay the importance of the position, I think you are missing the points of those who criticize Palin for her extreme lack of experience, ed.

I find the experience issue rather ironic considering that McCain has made such an issue of Obama's lack of time in government. I doubt that he will be talking about political experience, now that he has picked someone who is practically a political novice.

Historically very few VP's have helped the ticket in the way that you seem to think. LBJ would be the most notable exception.

I would also note that if McCain was picking a woman to get the disgruntled Clinton voters, he made a poor choice, considering that she is completely opposite of Hillary on about almost every issue, such as abortion for example.

I'm not saying she won't draw some of the disgruntled Hillary people, but I doubt it will be a lot. Those that leave the Democratic party to vote for McCain will be doing it out of revenge, and certainly not for political ideology. That seems rather shallow to me.

Personally I would have been more comfortable if he had chosen someone like Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Elizabeth Dole. I really don't care for either of their politics, but I think the country would be better off with one of them at the helm, than having a political rookie in the most powerful and important job in the world.

There are reports that McCain had only met this woman one time before making his decision. If that's true, it sounds like he made the decision last minute. If that's an example of his decision making process we could be in big trouble. McCain's reputation as a hot head is rather well documented, but adding shoot from the hip decision making to that should scare the hell out of us.

If the stories circulating on the Net are true about the firing of her ex-brother-in-law are true, than it sounds like she might be the type of person who uses her position to punish her enemies. That's the type of VP we've had for the last 8 years, and do we really want another Cheney in that office? "

" Sarah Palin's mother-in-law uncertain about how she'll vote
BY NANCY DILLON
DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF


Gov. Sarah Palin was a surprise to most Republicans as John McCain's vice presidential pick.


WASILLA, Alaska - Sarah Palin's hometown rallied around her as mayor - now Republicans wonder if the rest of America will warm up to the surprise pick from cold country.

Though her mother-in-law has doubts.

Faye Palin admitted she enjoys hearing Barack Obama speak, and still hasn't decided which way she'll vote. "

" For the folks who think Biden is any better than the other scoundrels should look into his activities on 9/13 2001. He was taking a meeting with Mahmoud Ahmed of Pakistani intelligence service and the bagman for the "hijackers". This man instructed a wealthy supporter to cut a check to Muhammad Atta for $100,000. Look into the facts. Google "Biden Mahmoud Ahmed" "

" i thought you republicans liked experienced crooks? make up your minds already! "

" How about googling: Bush family connections with the Bin Laden family, Clif. LOL! Wow, talk about the lack of morals from one family..... "

" Vote for McCain, not Hussein. "

" Let's see... Obama picks some tired old plagiarist and liar for his VP? Wow... now there's some change to believe in! "

" Just wait till the lawsuit filed against Obama and his false claim of being a natural born US citizen hits.

"Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC are to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated."

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in the lawsuit documents maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected." "

" really wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:58 PM:
" Just wait till the lawsuit filed against Obama and his false claim of being a natural born US citizen hits."""

page two: aliens abduct cindy mccain, impregnate her with martian sperm. "

" What about this, really? LOL!


John McCain Born in Panama, can he even be President?

The Constitution clearly states only those born in the United States may be President.


This is not open to interpretation or overturned by the 14th Amendment as it is very clear in the Constitution that the founders were being very specific on who could be the President.

The 14th Amendment was not written to change the rules of who could be the President, it was to determine citizenship. Citizenship does not allow just anyone to be the President. Only those born in the United States have that privilege.

Although John McCain was born in Panama many would argue that he was born in a US territory and is considered a US citizen. Being a citizen is not the litmus test the founders directed when they wrote the requirements to become the President.

A territory is not the United States. The United States is one of the 50 states. If Panama was a state things would be different. However Panama is a sovereign Country.

If this were the case, then we would have to allow all children born on US territories to be naturalized citizens. For example, if an Iraqi woman has an American service mans baby in a hospital in Iraq that happens to be a US Military base, then the baby would be born in US territory. This is not what the founders would have contemplated as a US naturalized citizen.

While this is probably an issue the courts would most likely rule that McCain is fully eligible to be the President, I my self would not vote for a person who is questionably walking a fine line on the founding fathers rule of Presidential eligibility.


Robert Werden- "

" The AP reports that, at the request of the McCain campaign, bipartisan lawyers have reviewed John McCains citizenship and agree he is eligible to be President. Republican Ted Olsen, who supports McCain, and Democrat Laurence Tribe, who supports Obama, conducted the review:

A federal judge in California has been asked to determine whether McCain meets the legal test to hold the nations highest office. Although McCain has called questions about his eligibility nonsense, his campaign, as it did in his first White House run in 2000, sought a review from legal experts to put the issue to rest.

Based on the original meaning of the Constitution, the Framers intentions, and subsequent legal and historical precedent, Senator McCains birth to parents who were U.S. citizens, serving on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, makes him a natural born citizen within the meaning of the Constitution, the review found. "

" Of course McCain is eligible to run, I was merely pointing out the absurdity of your inane message about the Wack job's law suit against Obama. "

" sapient wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:03 AM:

" Vote for McCain, not Hussein. "



McCain is as bad as the former hussein, he likes innocent people to die in wars based on false ideals "

" NEW YORK (AP) - A controversial new study contends nearly 655,000 Iraqis have died because of the war, suggesting a far higher death toll than other estimates.

So the logical question then becomes: who is responsible for the deaths of the most Iraqis, Saddam Hussein or George Bush and Dick Cheney?

As bad as Saddam was, I think old George and the the immoral Dickster might have gotten more Iraqis killed.

For more of the same, vote McCain. "

" "So the logical question then becomes: who is responsible for the deaths of the most Iraqis, Saddam Hussein or George Bush and Dick Cheney?"

Are you kidding me? Saddam tested weapons on his people. 600,000 on the very low side were estimated to die under Hussein's rule although many believe that number is closer to the 1,000,000 range.

And since when do the suicide bombings deaths of foreign radicals get blamed on the US. You can say what you want but 80% of Iraqis would take what they have now over what it was like before. (And if you don't believe talk to some soldiers who have actually been there) Because now at least they know that each day things get better for Iraqis. For a country that has to deal with all the messes of this war Americans whine about it more than they do. Iraq could've been much, much worse. After we pulled out on them after the gulf war its amazing that every Iraqi didn't pick up an AK and fire on us back in 2003. The fact that they didn't just shows us how fed up they were with Sadamm's rule.

Whether or not the reasons for going to war were justified or not WERE THERE. We started the mess so now we have to finish it. Until the Iraqis can secure their own county (which will be very soon) we have to finish the job. Its that simple. Otherwise youre going to see the 25,000,000 million people of Iraq wanting revenge against the US. It would take several generations to ever hope to regain any sort of peaceful relations with the citizens of Iraq. "

" The middle east, has been at war for centuries. It is a tribal region, that when they aren't fighting with someone else, they are infighting, between tribes, or being restrained from it by a dictator. These are the same folks that surrendered by the thousands, in Desert storm. Left to fend for themselves, completely it is very unlikely they can. The 20 percent, that don't agree with Foreign occupation, and nation building, is where the fraction of a percent of Radicals will likely come from. Terrorism is carried out by a few radicals, not the muslem religion, or the middle east region. War and repression, has been the history of the region, for centuries. One war waged by us, is not going to suddenly make history moot, and disapear. We overestimate our power yet again, by even considering it might. "

" BY NORM DIXON

On August 18, the New York Times carried a front-page story headlined, Officers say U.S. aided Iraq despite the use of gas. Quoting anonymous US senior military officers, the NYT revealed that in the 1980s, the administration of US President Ronald Reagan covertly provided critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war. The story made a brief splash in the international media, then died. "

" you are totally right harry, more Iraqi's have died under Bush's invasion than Husseins rule, either way murder doesn't justify murder "

" nj85, after looking at several sites, the highest number of estimated killed under Saddam, isn't even half of the estimated number killed with the Bush/Cheney invasion and occupation of Iraq. "

" definetely Harry, I didn't even bother to look it up because it just makes sense and it's sad that people think it somehow justifies everything that Saddam Hussein did, and even worse if we complain about it then we automatically are against the troops, we are against the morons that sent our soldiers to murder and die for their benefit "