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Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
Charleston PD gets first-hand jolt from Taser



CHARLESTON — A Taser electronic control device has less output than a 100-volt wall outlet or even a Christmas tree bulb.

Still, a hit by a Taser’s twin probes causes enough electro-muscular disruption to cause the strongest of people to drop to the ground or freeze in place.

Taser capabilities were demonstrated on Wednesday when Charleston police officers took a recertification class. The officers fired the devices on Illinois National Guard volunteers, who gritted their teeth as they were held upright during the 5-second Taser cycles.

The class also prompted some of the police officers to recall being on the receiving end of Tasers during previous training sessions.

“It felt like a severe back spasm,” recalled police Sgt. Justin Peterson. “Wow! That was the longest five seconds.”

Lt. John Bennett, a Taser instructor, led the class in the Charleston fire and police training facility on West Madison Avenue.

Bennett said a 100-volt wall outlet’s electrical output is 16.0 amps and a Christmas tree bulb’s output is 1.0 amp, whereas a Taser’s output is 0.0036 or 0.0021 amps depending on the model used.

“People don’t realize how little energy is put out through there,” Bennett said.

Still, Bennett said Tasers have proven to be an effective means for police officers to subdue individuals during violent altercations. He said Tasers use wire-propelled probes or direct contact to conduct electrical energy to briefly disrupt a subject’s sensory motor functions.

“It basically overrides your nervous system impulses,” Bennett said, adding the Taser causes neuromuscular incapacitation.

Bennett said a chemically stimulated or mentally imbalanced individual can fight through a pepper spray hit, but this does not happen with Tasers. He added about 247,000 people have volunteered for Taser demonstrations over the years, and 99 percent of them were incapacitated.

Nationwide, a small number of individuals have died after being hit by Tasers, Bennett said. These deaths were caused by the physical condition of the individuals when they were hit, he said.

Their heart rates were already accelerated due to use of illegal drugs or other stimulants and their heart rates were speeded further by struggling with police prior to the Taser hits, Bennett said. Similar deaths have occurred during use of pepper spray or physical force to subdue individuals, he said.

Most Taser-related injuries occur when the individual falls and the injuries are not directly related to the electric shock, Bennett said. He added modern pacemakers and similar implanted devices withstand external electrical defibrillators at least 100 times stronger than the Taser energy pulses.

“Nothing is 100-percent safe, but the Taser is very, very safe,” Bennett said. “They are incredibly safe and they are incredibly effective.”

Contact Rob Stroud at rstroud@jg-tc.com or 348-5734.


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Mama says wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:34 PM:

" Hey test laser on 55 puppymill owner and the pitbulls owner. Put em in cages and no room standup,,,,then sock it to em. "

lefty wrote on Aug 23, 2008 10:47 AM:

" Wow! Way to go Mr Stroud, writing an article that supports the use of Tasers. The only bit of "criticism" in your article is quickly brushed aside with no critical analysis from experts, just a user... a cop.

Continue shilling, Mr Stroud, continue shilling. "

Rotty wrote on Aug 23, 2008 4:24 PM:

" Excellant idea, Mama!

Great post! "

injustice85 wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:32 AM:

" "Most Taser-related injuries occur when the individual falls and the injuries are not directly related to the electric shock, Bennett said"

Or when they hold it on the victim for like 20 freakin' minutes lol "

Amber wrote on Aug 24, 2008 12:21 PM:

" Nationwide, a small number of individuals have died after being hit by Tasers, Bennett said. These deaths were caused by the physical condition of the individuals when they were hit, he said.

Their heart rates were already accelerated due to use of illegal drugs or other stimulants and their heart rates were speeded further by struggling with police prior to the Taser hits, Bennett said. Similar deaths have occurred during use of pepper spray or physical force to subdue individuals, he said.
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So with all the meth use going on in coles county, wouldn't that be like "Murder" on part of our Police Dept? Tasering is cruel and inhumane, and you all know it. Why else would you suggest using it on the dog abusers? Even I wouldn't want to see the users/abusers getting a Death sentence. "

Harry Potter wrote on Aug 24, 2008 1:19 PM:

" Wow, Mattoon gets military assault type weapons and the CPD elects to go with Tasers. What's next, assault vehicles? "

arab38 wrote on Aug 24, 2008 3:33 PM:

" If you don't want tased don't run and do what the officer(s) tell you. Kind of like if I child doesn't want to get in trouble by their parents, then don't cause problems "

The Question wrote on Aug 24, 2008 4:10 PM:

" " If you don't want tased don't run and do what the officer(s) tell you. Kind of like if I child doesn't want to get in trouble by their parents, then don't cause problems."
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Yes. Ve haff vays of making you OBEY ORDERS in freedom-loving Amerika! "

injustice85 wrote on Aug 24, 2008 6:59 PM:

" yeah and some cops will tase you anyway just like the john kerry rally on tv, i'm glad the cops have all this equipment to use while their chatting at marathon and hucks! "

Independent wrote on Aug 24, 2008 9:54 PM:

" The following is a short play for your reading pleasure, or displeasure.

Mr. Iknowbetterthanu: Excuse me Officer Doe. I'm your new supervisor.
Officer John Doe: Um, pleased to meet you.
Mr. I: I'm sorry, you cannot go on patrol like that.
Officer D: What do you mean?
Mr. I: First of all, you need to relinquish your assault rifle. You don't need it. School shootings could never happen in small towns like Charleston and Mattoon.
Officer D: But, what about the shootings at Paducah, Ky. and Northern Illinois Univ...
Mr. I: Please don't interrupt me when I am talking. You will also need to give up your sidearm. That is just a big liability issue. You know what those lawyers are like.
Officer D: ???
Mr. I: Drop off the TASER on your desk as well. There have been instances of police officers abusing TASER usage. Surely then, no officer can be trusted to carry a TASER.
Officer D. Can I still carry my pepper spray?
Mr. I: I am afraid not. If someone is in an overstimulated state due to drug use and violently resisting arrest, there is a slight possibility your pepper spray might push him into cardiac arrest. We just can't take that risk.
Officer D: What about my baton?
Mr. I: Did you not see the Rodney King video? That baton is just bad public relations waiting to happen.
Officer D: Can I at least wrestle a subject to the ground?
Mr. I: Hmm...that won't work. The subject might get hurt, or you might get hurt and need to file a workman's compensation claim. Don't worry thought. Your file shows you have used your "verbal judo" skills to defuse a lot of domestic disturbances and angry drunks over the years. I am sure that will work in all other instances as well.
Officer D: What the f...?
Mr. I: Good luck on patrol. Let's all be careful out there. "

pj1983 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:50 AM:

" and just what do you suggest amber, that you'd rather them shoot the ppl with their bullets? "

jrhendren wrote on Aug 25, 2008 2:41 AM:

" I wish people would make up there mind. Do you want to be safe or let the criminals decide how safe you are? Whining because Charleston PD has tasers. Give me a break, and get a life. You can't shot them with a gun, you can't hit them with a nightstick, and now oh no don't hit with a taser. Yet if they were the ones needing help, they wouldn't care what the PD did as long as they saved them. I guess to make the extreme left happy we should let the criminals in prison out, since they are all wrongly accused and jailed wrongly, along with being mistreated. Then we need dismantle all of the police departments, since they are all crooked. We next need to get rid of the elected officials since again they are all crooked and evil, well those that might not agree with the left at all times. We need to close all the churches, since they say there are absolutes. Please! Just let the police do there job, protect and serve. "

Becky wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:08 AM:

" October 14, 2007, Vancouver, BC - Robert Dziekanski became agitated after waiting ten hours in the Vancouver International Airport. Police shocked Dziekanski with a TASER multiple times, and soon after he was pronounced dead

September 14, 2007, UT - Jared Massey was struck by a TASER for refusing to sign a speeding ticket

November 13, 2006, Sheffield Lake, OH - Kristina Fretter was taken to the Sheffield Police Department after being picked up for drunk driving. She was later struck by a TASER while wearing handcuffs.

Let's just hope that much needed training is also given along with these so-called non lethal forms of torture (in order to get the masses to do what "da man" wants). Tasers can be a useful tool, in the right hands but if you get them in the hands of some power junky, then the temptation to abuse a citizen who is merely disagreeing with the police is too high. "

lefty wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:40 AM:

" JRHENDREN, I am more in the middle, not extreme right, yet I don't support the use of tasers. I think cops carrying a gun is a strong enough deterrent.

But anyway, ya you're right, no tasers probably do equal chaos. I would hate to debate someone with such a rapist whit like yourself. "

injustice85 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:45 AM:

" jrhendren i just hope they are ready if the time comes to use them, i feel like they should be watching over the town even when it's a quiet night instead of schmoozing at the local gas stations, if they were patrolling or sitting somewhere and watching they might catch some action but all they do is wait for the bars to let out and they sit near them which is great but we do have more of a town than just lincoln avenue "

jrhendren wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:54 PM:

" injustice85 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:45 AM:
" jrhendren i just hope they are ready if the time comes to use them, i feel like they should be watching over the town even when it's a quiet night instead of schmoozing at the local gas stations, if they were patrolling or sitting somewhere and watching they might catch some action but all they do is wait for the bars to let out and they sit near them which is great but we do have more of a town than just lincoln avenue "

I agree again with you 100% they do need to be patrolling and watching all the streets not just the ones with bars on them. I also believe any officer caught sleeping on the job or not answering a call, without a legitament reason, they should be suspended for a certain amount of time without pay. Let hope they are prepared and trained properly, and do not have to use deadly force unless there is not other way.

lefty wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:40 AM:
" JRHENDREN, I am more in the middle, not extreme right, yet I don't support the use of tasers. I think cops carrying a gun is a strong enough deterrent.

But anyway, ya you're right, no tasers probably do equal chaos. I would hate to debate someone with such a rapist whit like yourself. "

In this country luckily you have the right not to agree with the use of tasers, that is what makes America great. Oh and I am not trying to debate you, I am just giving my opinion same as you. "

Mama says wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:52 AM:

" Im just glad I don't break laws and not need handcuffs,,,,let alone laser or other means. If they don't want tazed or cuffed they shouldn't break laws.
The 80ish wheelchair bound woman in NY had been beaten so she bought a .44,,,,same guy brokein she shot him.
One less womanbeater/thief. Good going granny!!! "

Mama says wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:56 AM:

" On the otherhand maybe get my ex new girlfriend a taser for her birthday coming up soon. She gonna need help. "

lefty wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:19 PM:

" Here's the thing... taser's are punishment. You can say all you want about the use of force, but tasers are punishment that are more likely to lead to death than mere hand to hand combat.

In other words, before anyone is proven guilty, they are punished with violent, painful, and potentially lethal force.

Sure, go ahead and say someone shouldn't break the law... well, what if they're found innocent but they got tazed on their way to court? Additionally, what if the individual tazed, dies due to tazing? Does that justify tazing?

Say what you will, but too much risk goes into using a tazer. Personally, I like the American system that presumes innocence until proven guilty. A tazer not only punishes, but potentially metes out the ultimate punishment without proof of guilt: death.

Oh, and for those of you who want to be tough on crime, two points.

First, if a perpetrator pulls a weapon, police may use deadly force, it is their right.

Second, if our cops are incapable of taking down a non-weapon-wielding perpetrator with their own hands, then WTF are they a cop for?! Hire better equipped cops! "

 

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Charleston Police Department Patrolman Scott Lindecker fires a TASER at a target Wednesday morning (August 20, 2008) during TASER certification class on the Charleston Fire and Police Training facility firing range in Charleston. (Photo by Ken Trevarthan).


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