Monday, August 18, 2008 11:09 PM CDT
US, allies contemplating action against Russia
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) — The United States on Sunday accused Russia of stalling its military pullback in Georgia, but the Bush administration is not rushing to repudiate Moscow for its actions.
The White House is struggling to figure out the best way to penalize Russia. It doesn't want to deeply damage existing cooperation on many fronts or discourage Moscow from further integrating itself into global economic and political institutions. At the same time, U.S. officials say Russia can't be allowed to get away with invading its neighbor.
Fighting broke out after Georgia launched a massive barrage Aug. 7 to try to take control of the separatist province of South Ossetia, which is heavily influenced by Russia. The Russian army quickly overwhelmed Georgia's forces, then drove deep into the country, bombed Georgian ports and military installations and tied up an east-west highway through the nation.
``There's no doubt there will be further consequences,'' said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who briefed President Bush on the fast-changing crisis over the weekend at his Texas ranch.
She returned to Washington on Sunday and is flying to Europe on Monday to talk with NATO allies about what message the West should send to Russia.
Russia can't use ``disproportionate force'' against its neighbor and still be welcomed into the halls of international institutions, Rice said.
``It's not going to happen that way,'' she said. ``Russia will pay a price.''
But neither Rice nor Defense Secretary Robert Gates would be specific about what punitive actions the U.S. or the international community might take.
``We're going to take our time and assess what further consequences there should be to the relationship,'' Rice said.
The United States wants to take a tough stance against Russia, but there is much at stake.
``The facts are that the United States has to work with Russia on Iran, on nuclear problems of proliferation, on a whole raft of trade issues at a time in which the United States has a huge domestic deficit,'' said Sen. Richard Lugar, the senior Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
And holding open the prospect of taking steps against Russia gives the United States some leverage in pushing Russia to withdraw from Georgia. But nothing is expected to happen in a hurry, and the United States doesn't want to turn the conflict into a fight between the former Cold War rivals.
``There is no need to rush into everything,'' Gates said. ``We don't want to do it unilaterally.
``I think there needs to be a strong, unified response to Russia to send the message that this kind of behavior, characteristic of the Soviet period, has no place in the 21st century,'' he said.
Asked whether Russia should be kicked out of the Group of Eight major industrialized states, or whether it should be kept from joining the World Trade Organization, Gates replied vaguely, saying the U.S. and its allies can choose from a broad menu of possible punitive steps. Russia already is feeling repercussions, he said.
``The whole world is looking at Russia through a different set of lenses than just a week and a half or two weeks ago, so there are already consequences,'' Gates said. ``I think they may not appreciate the magnitude of those consequences yet. The longer they take to get out and to observe the cease-fire that's been declared and the arrangements that have been worked out, I think the greater those consequences will be.''
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Russian troops will begin leaving Monday, but made no mention of leaving the separatist province at the heart of the conflict between the countries. The Bush administration is hopeful yet skeptical that Russia will honor its pledge to withdraw troops quickly from Georgia under terms of a cease-fire it signed Saturday.
``My own view is that the Russians will probably stall and perhaps take more time than anybody would like,'' Gates said. ``I think we just need to keep the pressure and ensure that they abide by the agreement that they've signed and do so in a timely way.''
The Russians say they're going to take their time in leaving the South Carolina-sized democracy that declared its independence in 1991.
Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the Russian parliament's foreign affairs committee, said Russian forces will be out of Georgia ``sooner or later,'' but how much time it takes depends on how Georgia behaves.
Echoing Bush's call to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq depending on conditions on the ground, Kosachev said: ``If I would ask you ... `How fast the American forces can leave Iraq?' ... the answer would be, as soon as we have guarantees for peace and security there.
``The same answer would be toward this situation: as soon as we are assured that Georgians will not continue to use military force against South Ossetians and against Abkhazians'' — residents of two separatist areas of Georgia now overrun with Russian troops and abandoned by Georgian soldiers.
Rice and Gates pressed the administration's case during appearances on five Sunday talks shows — Rice on ``Fox News Sunday,'' CBS' ``Face the Nation'' and NBC's ``Meet the Press,'' and Gates on ABC's ``This Week'' and ``Late Edition'' on CNN. Kosachev and Lugar also appeared on CNN.
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coonbug wrote on Aug 19, 2008 7:30 AM:
The REPUBLICAN congressional years 1994 - 2006 (and 2000-2008 President Bush years) will be remembered for all theyve accomplished
Seven year war in Afghanistan, 5 year war in Iraq with close to 660 billion dollars spent, part of which we now owe China to pay for them.
North Korea, Iran and now Russia, are all greater powers then before the GOP took control of government. Pakistan with nukes is about to lose their (U.S. picked) leader. China is now listed as having the most manufacturing companies in the world.
Our food and toys are either poisoned or lead filled.
Were told that even though our attorney generals office committed crimes by picking justices by looking at their political views, they wont be charged with a crime because, Not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime, says Attorney General Michael.
Our privacy has forever been invaded.
Abortion (Roe vs Wade) is still legal even though President Bush had control of Congress and a conservative Supreme Court.
A CIA operatives name was leaked to the media by Bushs right hand men - with his and Cheneys permission yet after promising to fire anyone that leaked the info, those persons remain free.
Its now been proven that Americans were manipulated into going to war with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Well remember the famous Abu Ghraib abuse photos and that we didnt torture prisoners, then later were told, we didbut only three times.
New Orleans victims are still waiting for -safe- housing from Fema after the Katrina hurricane.
The new Homeland Defense dept is now building its on central intelligence office outside of CIA.
President Bush has written over 200 special executive orders, overriding bills hes signed into law so that he can avoid obeying those new laws.
Weve had the worst housing crisis in Americas history. Millions of jobs are lost and the country is in a recession. The rich got richer while middle class was forgotten. Oil companies made record breaking profits. Gas prices more than tripled and natural gas prices shoot up sky high.
Last but not least, well always remember being attacked by terrorists on 9/11 (Bush had been in charge for 8 months intelligence was warning his administration for at least 3 and a half of those months - of imminent danger) and when told, how our president took 7 minutes to finally get up and attend to the business of our nation instead of sitting in a class room full of children telling stories. Well remember finding out later that the Bush administration was warned in Augusts NIE about people planning to use planes hit buildings with and that Osama Bin Laden was aiming to attack the U.S President Bush just sat at his Texas ranch on vacation and did nothing about it.
President Bush says the terrorists hate Americans because of FREEDOM.
Osama Bin Laden is still FREE Somehow I doubt he hates freedom.
Memories.
Look back to John McCain's SNL sketch where he sings, "Memories, light the corners of my mind Misty water-colored memories, of the way we were." "