" There is a difference between race and racism. I really wish Tom would share his magic crystal ball that looks into alternative realities and can tell the future.

'_If_ McCain were to speak in Berlin and say I know I dont look like the American who spoke here last week, the liberal media _may_ well brand him a racist and demand that he surrender his candidacy.'

Please Tom, develop you own ideas. I caught enough of Fox News a couple weeks ago to hear this story/angle. You have not added anything new. "

" Ever since I accused you of being a racist, you never miss a chance to try to disprove it. It was not really meant to be a serious charge, Tom. And J C Watts? Doesn't he have the same zipper problem as Bill Clinton? What about a Hispanic candidate? Would you still still be so gung ho for McCain if he picked a Hispanic for a running mate? LOL! "

" the lack of talent of mcwimpy the third.ejected from six navy air craft all total losses.Soldout his fellow pow,s.Made out with cindy while his wife was in a wheelchair in the next room. brownnoses wimpy the second every chance he gets. "

" Good common sense letter. Keep posting, Tom. "

" why is it republicans are the ones bringing it up all the time? "

" Andres, as usual, is searching desperately for a way to atack Obama.
I CHALLENGE HIM to find in the Obama speech the "I know that I DON'T LIKE the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city" that he quotes.
Come on Andres; to show that it is an accurate quote, quote us -- if you can -- the sentence that came before and the one that came after the one you have used.
Some Republicans will tell any lie to gain advantage.
It is McCain who uses the race issue at every possible point.
Most disgusting is the claim that Obama played basketball instead of visiting wounded soldiers while abroad. The reporters who were present have testified that this McCain claim is an OUTRAGEOUS LIE.
The McCain advisers have found that McCain cannot win honestly, so they have decided -- as Bush campaigned against McCain in 2000 -- to use any lie necessary to gain advantage in this campaign. If he should win by such dishonesty, he will hardly find a unified US behind him.
But what could one expect from a man with the character that led him to dump the wife to took care of their kids while he was in Vietnam, had an affair with -- and married -- another woman who was young and RICH. The guy is a real scoundrel and should be recognized as such.
In such issues as offshore drilling, he was "against it before he was for it" -- a familiar phrase 4 years ago, but Republicans hardly remember it now.
Also, those who recognize this president as an ignoramus who speaks English as if it were his second language, should beware the present candidate who GRADUATED IN THE ***BOTTOM 1%*** OF HIS CLASS AT THE MILITARY ACADEMY. Don't people recognize that this means 99% of his graduating class were smarter than he? Do we really want a president who has been proven to be STUPID. "

" What I like about people like you is that you set up arguments based on hypothetical situations. The fact is that McCain didn't speak in Berlin. Obama did.

Race is an issue in every election. It was an issue in 1960, when some of the people from your party lobbied against civil rights. And it's still an issue today. For you to deny that is a is a blatant lie. You know better.

Black men were hanged, buddy. They were hanged, beaten, thrown in rivers. They were told they couldn't eat in restaurants or shop in stores. They were forced to go to different schools.

If you think there's something wrong with Obama celebrating how far black America has come, there's clearly no hope of changing your mind. But base your arguments on reality instead of relying on hypotheticals. Then we can talk. "

" I somewhat agree with that. It's like racial differences are kept going simply by talking about it over and over again. We heard more sexism bologna though when Hillary was running. This election has sucked horribly but its been equal. Each one of these candidates has been ripped a new one over and over again. "

" Here's what Sen. John McCain is, Tommy. He's a Keating Five crook and an adulterer who dumped his disabled first wife for a beer heiress who could do him some real good. Hes one of those Republicans, like Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh, who regard marriage as another inconvenient tax they should not have to pay.
Funny that Republicans thought adultery was an impeachable offense when Bill Clinton did it, but regard it as a facet of sterling character in McCain.
That sterling character of McCains also led him to lie to the American people when he said that the anthrax attacks may have come from Iraq. Like Bush and Cheney, McCain lied to manipulate the U.S. into the invasion and occupation of a country that never attacked or threatened us. All three are morally responsible for the disaster that has followed.
Obama is too much of a gentleman to say these things, but Im happy to bring them up, and will be glad to do so again. "

" Locke, actually, that WAS my own *angle*, as you put it. I can't help it if FNC followed my line of thinking about Obama's race baiting comment in Berlin. As soon as I heard him say that, I did a search for the text of his speech, while he was still speaking, and sure enough, there it was: first sentence of the third paragraph. I'm not saying I've added anything new, but I am addressing an important issue. Obama has played the race card several times now, and you know it.

For HP: what about a Hispanic? (By the way, HP, that in itself is a racist comment. Would you actually vote for someone just because he/she is Hispanic?) I have no objection to any non-white American presidential candidate. Race doesn't matter to me - but conservative values sure do.

Cognitus, it's fairly simple to do your own research on exactly what Obama said that day. Key in *A World that Stands as One*, and then hit Search. Technically challenged, are we?

HeinekenMan, LOL, *people like me?*. Do yourself a favor and take a black history lesson by going the National Black Republican Association website. Keep your mind open and you may actually learn something about who was opposed to civil rights for black America in the 60s. And by the way, Martin Luther King was a Republican. Just guessing here, but Ill be you didnt know that.

Yes, I know all about discrimination in the south, uh, *buddy*. I lived there. I knew it was wrong back then, but I couldnt do anything about it as a kid. As an adult, I point it out and chastise it whenever and wherever I can. Make no mistake about it, like many adults in his generation, Obama is a racist. That bothers me a great deal; but his biggest problem is hes a socialist!

TQ, my letter was about Obama and his racist remark in Berlin. If you want to talk about McCain, write a letter to the editor and well comment on the subject of your letter. Its pretty obvious you dont want to discuss what your candidate stands for. Enough with the red herring already. Try to concentrate on the issue at hand, OK? "

" I think what TQ is saying is that McCain has typical Ronald Reagan type personal values, Tom. From Ronald Reagan (getting Nancy pregnant while still married to his first wife) to Henry Hyde (fathering a love child), JC Watts (fathering a love child), Newt Gingrich(carrying on behind his wife's back while pushing for impeachment of Clinton), those good old Republican values keep showing up. And I didn't even mention those that prefer men, or in the case of Rush Limbaugh, little boys. But perhaps I should just to make a point. Let's see, there's Larry Graig, and Mark Foley, just to mention a few. It seems that infidelity and deviant sexual behavior is only a sin if you're a Democrat. LOL!

Hey, here's an idea, why not have JC Watts be McCain's VP. They have something in common, that is, they have both cheated on their spouses. Sounds like a good basis for a team to me.

What kind of excuse would you make for that, Tom? "

" The Question (but no answers): Clinton was a serial adulterer. No one in the republican party that I know of is defending adultry in McCain, Limbaugh, or any other republican who strays, but the libs screamed to high heaven (whoops, I forgot it doesn't exist) when complaints were made about Clinton's constant womanizing. Remember "That's between him and his wife", "What a person does in the privacy of his bedroom is nobody else's business", and on and on and on.

And you said he was lying when he said, "...the anthrax attacks may have come from Iraq." No one knew where they came from at the time. Saying that they "MAY" have come from Iraq was no lie. There is no doubt that Iraq had anthrax. If it is then any time the police name someone as a "person of interest" they are lying by inferring that they "MAY" be guilty. "

" http://tinyurl.com/5ezwps

NOW HE'S HOLY!!!!!......how laughable is this???



John McCain has criticized Barack Obama supposed presumptuousness frequently. Last week, a McCain ad suggested Obama is styling himself the new Messiah. But who's really playing the God card? First McCain's campaign came out with this poster (above). Now he's telling Clinton voters that support him over Obama that they'll be thanked in the afterlife:

Also Thursday, McCain called Debra Bartoshevich, the Racine County resident who lost her delegate seat at the Democratic National Convention for endorsing McCain instead of Obama, a "person of great courage" for endorsing him.


"Perhaps your reward will be in heaven - not here on Earth," McCain told Bartoshevich as he addressed the Civic Centre crowd.

No word yet from God on what the prize will be. "

" In response to Cognitus, "Andres, as usual, is searching desperately for a way to atack Obama.I CHALLENGE HIM to find in the Obama speech the "I know that I DON'T LIKE the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city" that he quotes."

I'm not sure if you typoed or not, but Andres actually quoted Obama as saying, "I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city." Again, I'm not sure if the typo was intentional or not, but the two sentences are quite different with the absence of the word "look."

CNN has the full text of Obama's speech here - http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/24/obama.words/ including the sentence, "I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city." And according to this blog from the L.A. Times, Obama's advisor has admitted he was referring to race in the statement.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/obama-race-mcca.html "

" Brazile: Of course Obama injects race into the campaign

VIDEO: http://tinyurl.com/6ce3my

Democrat strategist Donna Brazile admitted the obvious on ABCs This Week earlier today, but she tries to pin the blame on John McCain anyway. After George Will points out three different times in the last six weeks that Obama has brought up the race issue, two in which he accused McCain and the Republicans of using it, Brazile allowed that Obama had done so. "

" Race-baiting ad of the day: Democrat compares opponent to Klansman

VIDEO: http://tinyurl.com/55ztkd

Of what vile sin could this Republican brute be guilty? Did he display a photo, perhaps, of Barack Obama talking to a white woman, along the same lines as the dozen examples to be found on Obamas own website? Not exactly. Playing the role of the conservative is liberal Democrat Steve Cohen, who represents a majority minority district in Memphis, endorsed Obama before Super Tuesday, introduced the resolution formally apologizing for slavery that recently passed the House, and last year tried to join the Congressional Black Caucus before being rejected on account of insufficient pigmentation. Heres what he gets for his effort. The one consolation this past week in the playing of the racist card on McCain is that, in a way, its not really personal. Certainly the left will be quicker to play it on conservatives, but when theres advantage to be had, no one is safe. (Which is always true of witch hunts, needless to say.) Not even the first black president. Exit question: If even the editor of a magazine as deep in the tank for Obama as Newsweek thinks southern voters just aint that different anymore, whats David Gergens next move? By Allahpundit "

" WashingtonPost By Dan Balz Aug 1, 2008

Was it Barack Obama, who not so subtly pointed to John McCain and seemingly accused him of trying to scare voters by drawing attention to the fact that Obama doesn't look like (read: he is African American) all the other presidents? Or was it McCain's campaign, which cried foul over Obama's statements with such vehemence that race became the story of the day on all the networks, in all the papers and on all the blogs?

.........

First, Obama campaign officials, lacking any example of McCain ever pointing directly or indirectly at Obamas race as an issue in the campaign, have backpedaled rapidly away from any suggestion that their Republican opponent is using the very tactics Obama suggested on Wednesday.

Campaign manager David Plouffe was pressed hard during a conference call on Thursday for examples and could not point to any. An inquiry to the Obama campaign later in the day produced no immediate response and later no answer to a direct question asking for evidence to buttress Obamas suggestion that McCain would try to scare people into not voting for Obama because hes black.

.......

Before all this happened, McCain advisers believed that the Obama campaign successfully pinned a racist label on Bill Clinton during the during primaries for comments that drew protests from some leading African American politicians and were determined not to let the same happen to McCain. Also, they take personally any suggestion from the Obama campaign that they are part of a campaign that would play the race card and are indignant about it. "

" Running While Black
by Bob Herbert

Gee, I wonder why, if you have a black man running for high public office - say, Barack Obama or Harold Ford - the opposition feels compelled to run low-life political ads featuring tacky, sexually provocative white women who have no connection whatsoever to the black male candidates.

Spare me any more drivel about the high-mindedness of John McCain. You knew something was up back in March when, in his first ad of the general campaign, Mr. McCain had himself touted as the American president Americans have been waiting for.

There was nothing subtle about that attempt to position Senator Obama as the Other, a candidate who might technically be American but who remained in some sense foreign, not sufficiently patriotic and certainly not one of us - the us being the genuine red-white-and-blue Americans who the ad was aimed at.

Since then, Senator McCain has only upped the ante, smearing Mr. Obama every which way from sundown. On Wednesday, The Washington Post ran an extraordinary front-page article that began:

For four days, Senator John McCain and his allies have accused Senator Barack Obama of snubbing wounded soldiers by canceling a visit to a military hospital because he could not take reporters with him, despite no evidence that the charge is true.

Evidence? John McCain needs no evidence. His campaign is about trashing the opposition, Karl Rove-style. Not satisfied with calling his opponents patriotism into question, Mr. McCain added what amounted to a charge of treason, insisting that Senator Obama would actually prefer that the United States lose a war if that would mean that he - Senator Obama - would not have to lose an election.

Now, from the hapless but increasingly venomous McCain campaign, comes the slimy Britney Spears and Paris Hilton ad. The two highly sexualized women (both notorious for displaying themselves to the paparazzi while not wearing underwear) are shown briefly and incongruously at the beginning of a commercial critical of Mr. Obama.

The Republican National Committee targeted Harold Ford with a similarly disgusting ad in 2006 when Mr. Ford, then a congressman, was running a strong race for a U.S. Senate seat in Tennessee. The ad, which the committee described as a parody, showed a scantily clad woman whispering, Harold, call me.

Both ads were foul, poisonous and emanated from the upper reaches of the Republican Party. (What a surprise.) Both were designed to exploit the hostility, anxiety and resentment of the many white Americans who are still freakishly hung up on the idea of black men rising above their station and becoming sexually involved with white women.

The racial fantasy factor in this presidential campaign is out of control. It was at work in that New Yorker cover that caused such a stir. (Mr. Obama in Muslim garb with the American flag burning in the fireplace.) Its driving the idea that Barack Obama is somehow presumptuous, too arrogant, too big for his britches - a man who obviously does not know his place.

Mr. Obama has to endure these grotesque insults with a smile and heroic levels of equanimity. The reason he has to do this - the sole reason - is that he is black.

So there he was this week speaking evenly, and with a touch of humor, to a nearly all-white audience in Missouri. His goal was to reassure his listeners, to let them know hes not some kind of unpatriotic ogre.

Mr. Obama told them: What theyre going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, hes not patriotic enough. Hes got a funny name. You know, he doesnt look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. Hes risky.

The audience seemed to appreciate his comments. Mr. Obama was well-received.

But John McCain didnt appreciate them. RACE CARD! RACE CARD! The McCain camp started bellowing, and it hasnt stopped since. With great glee bursting through their feigned outrage, the campaigns operatives and the candidate himself accused Senator Obama of introducing race into the campaign - playing the race card, as they put it, from the very bottom of the deck.

Whatever you think about Barack Obama, he does not want the race issue to be front and center in this campaign. Every day that the campaign is about race is a good day for John McCain. So I guess we understand Mr. McCains motivation.

Nevertheless, its frustrating to watch John McCain calling out Barack Obama on race. Senator Obama has spoken more honestly and thoughtfully about race than any other politician in many years. Senator McCain is the head of a party that has viciously exploited race for political gain for decades.

Hes obviously more than willing to continue that nauseating tradition.

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company "

" Father Boob: Your OPINION piece by Bob Herbert of the New York Times is just that.....opinion. Rushbaby posted right before you the facts....that when pressed the Obama campaign could not and cannot come up with any instances of the McCain campaign playing the race card. That's the FACTS, Jack! Although you all on the left are trying very hard to make your silly argument about the ad using Paris HIlton and Britney Spears as racist, it just doesn't fly...not even with the Obama campaign. "

" Dan Bakitus, here's what happened. It wasn't my typo; it was the Journal Gazette's. My original letter to the editor quoted Obama correctly, including the word "look". Somehow this mornings print version dropped the word look, and the first online version carried that error as well.

You can see, above, where they patched in the word in order to get it right. LOL, I don't know what it is about the JG/TC website software, but they kind of botched the patch job too, didn't they? Same problem they usually have with copying apostrophes and quotation marks, etc.

Anyway, Obama said "I know I don't LOOK like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city". My point was that if McCain were to say I know I dont LOOK like the American who spoke here on July 24th, he would be castigated for racist speech, but somehow Obama gets away with introducing racial differences between the two candidates into his speeches time after time.

Why dont we replace George Washington with Barrack Obama on the dollar bill so we can get through this race crap and move on to more substantive issues such as corruption, pork, energy, taxes, the economy, the war, illegal immigration, national security?

No one seems to want to address my question: Has Obama matured enough to run as a non-hyphenated American? I think the reason he seems so focused on race in his campaign is because while he was in Illinois as a community activist and a member of a deeply racist church for twenty years, thats what he spent his time doing engendering wars between the poor downtrodden blacks and the evil racist whites. This is not change; this is his partys attempt at Jim Crow reincarnate. "

" But McCain IS a serial adulterer, Sappy, just like the oh-so-despised Bill Clinton.
By the late 70s McCain had engaged in many adulterous affairs, as chronicled in the book "The Nightingale's Song" by Robert Timberg. Timberg wrote:
"Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates. At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."
McCain and the Bush administration had no evidence that the anthrax came from Iraq, and no reason to believe it. They just lied about it to start a war. It was obvious, even then, than the anthrax most likely sent by home-grown right-wing terrorists. Why else would they target American liberals and the New York Times? "

" You right wingers are like the old Soviets, and are expected to keep up on the ever-changing IDs of yesterday's allies who are now and have always been your enemies, like Paul O'Neill and Gen. Taguba, and yesterday's enemies who are now and have always been your allies, like John McCain.
Remember how you right wingers hated McCain when he sponsored campaign finance reform and backed amnesty for illegal aliens?
You could never hope to keep up without the talk radio politburo telling you the latest version of what you have always believed. Luckily you're well-practiced at slavishly following a party line, even when it reverses itself constantly. "

" TQ, did you even read this part of the quote from the book?: "At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona...." Keywords: RUMORS, TRUE OR NOT! "

" tom (snotnose) andres....you're one to be talking about jim crow. "

" "the liberal media may well brand him a racist"

Oh, you mean the way the conservatives have branded Obama a racist? And an elitist? And anti-American? And a terrorist?

Here's how it would have gone down if McCain had in fact gone to Berlin and said "I know I dont look like the American who spoke here last week": He would have delivered the line with his awkward chuckle, and then Fox News and all the other right-wingers would have claimed it was just McCain being his charming, authentic, straight-talking self.

There is a double-standard in this campaign and it is not to Obama's benefit. If Obama had made the same awful rape joke McCain made, or the one about beating his wife, or the one about killing Iranians with our cigarette exports, he would have been ripped to shreds. If Obama had said "I'm no expert on the economy" and then denied saying it over and over (even though it was captured on tape), it would have been headline news. And isn't it funny how Obama has been labeled an elitist, while there has been no mention of the fact that McCain wears $500 imported loafers?

Newsflash: Obama does NOT look like any of our past presidents, and there are many, many people in this country who will never vote for a black person. For Republicans to play dumb and claim there isn't a racist among them is a complete joke. "

" oh and here tommy...in case you missed this...i know you'll monitor your own pathetic thread...



John McCain has criticized Barack Obama supposed presumptuousness frequently. Last week, a McCain ad suggested Obama is styling himself the new Messiah. But who's really playing the God card? First McCain's campaign came out with this poster. Now he's telling Clinton voters that support him over Obama that they'll be thanked in the afterlife:

Also Thursday, McCain called Debra Bartoshevich, the Racine County resident who lost her delegate seat at the Democratic National Convention for endorsing McCain instead of Obama, a "person of great courage" for endorsing him.


"Perhaps your reward will be in heaven - not here on Earth," McCain told Bartoshevich as he addressed the Civic Centre crowd.

No word yet from God on what the prize will be. "

" Good grief miltmart, even his own staff went to the press with info on his infidelities. If he was be unfaithful to his first wife, what makes you think he would be faithful to his current one? "

" Locke(as in not-open-minded), Harry Potter(enuf said), longtimegone(you said it), father boob(Rev Wright), Cognitus(yeah, right), HeinekenMan(actually PBR), The Question(but no answers), Michelle W (honey, we have some men in Mattoon who wear $500 loafers, so what?): all these posts from the left, and still not one real issue raised! See what I mean? Let's get down with this campaign (that's *let us address the issues* for the non-hip-hoppers in the crowd). LOL. "

" Maybe no one is answering it because it's a stupid question, and doesn't warrant a serious answer, Tom. Any by the way your assessment of Obama is about as accurate as your prediction about Bush's legacy. LOL! You know Tom you constantly whine about those on the left being so blind in their loyalty, and can't see that you are just as blind in your loyalty to the right wing agenda. Rather funny if you think about it. "

" TQ- "You right wingers are like the old Soviets,"
Were not the party that is trying to turn this country into a Socialist nanny-state. That would be you Obama-lemmings. If the communism fits, then I suggest you wear it. "

" Why Bill Clinton may cheer John McCain

ABCs Good Morning America caught up with Bill Clinton this weekend while the former president tours Liberia. They discovered that Clinton still has not recovered from the bruising primary. It didnt take much prompting to get Bill to insist that he got smeared in the primaries in a manner that sounds very similar to what happened this week:

Q: Do you personally have any regrets about what you did campaigning for your wife?

A: [Pause, shakes head] Yes, but not the ones you say, and it would be counterproductive for me to talk about it. There are things I wish Id urged her to do, things I wish Id said, things I wish I hadnt said. But I am not a racist, I never made a racist comment, and I didnt attack him personally.


Democrats should take this as a hint that party unity will not be forthcoming, at least not beyond the superficial. Bill Clinton, at least, has not forgiven his treatment as a racial pariah during the latter part of the primary campaign, nor has his mood improved much. Neither he nor Hillary have rushed to Obamas assistance yet, and except for the most cursory of statements of support, the Clintons have almost cloistered themselves over the last two months. "

" Tom: Just because I don't agree with you on the paranoia about the "liberal media", subscribe to your narrow religion, bash homosexuals for their sins, praise the GOP on every issue, call the JG-TC out for being overtly biased when reporting on Illinois politics, and parrot Fox News word for word doesn't mean I am not open-minded -- quite the contrary.

Furthermore, I resent your accusations that I am on the left. Trust me, if a liberal/democrat dragged us into a war based on a lie, destroyed our economy with tax-breaks for the rich and out-of-control spending, and was a general moronic dirtbag, I would be equally critical of them. In fact, I was. During the 1990s I was quite harsh on William Jefferson Clinton -- of course, you would not know that because you do not know me. Until I post a comment with adoration of the Democratic Party, don't brand me either -- of course, that's hard to do when you subscribe to an "us or them" mentality so common in American political discourse.

I have yet to comment positively about a Democrat, just as I have yet to comment positively about a Republican. Yes, I am more critical of the Republicans -- with good reason. "

" Tom, I did my research. Here's the most poignant statement I could find on MLK Jr.

"To suggest that Martin could identify with a party that affirms preemptive, predatory war, and whose religious partners hint that God affirms war and favors the rich at the expense of the poor, is to revile Martin," said the Rev. Joseph Lowery, the former president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which the slain civil rights leader helped establish.

So that's an ongoing debate.

No, about your ifs. If you could bring facts to the table, I might spend a little more time in replying to you. If you're simply going to throw out hypotheticals, however, go out back and shoot some rats or whatever you backward hillbillies like to do. "

" McCain Not First to Compare Obama to Paris Hilton

By Seton Motley (August 4, 2008 -

... it appears that someone years ago beat Sen. McCain to the comparison punch.

Would all of this overwrought press hysteria be rendered even sillier were it to turn out that Sen. McCain was in actuality quoting Sen. Obama?

Methinks that it would.

A February 24, 2005, Washington Post article begins:

There's nothing exotic or complicated about how phenoms are made in Washington, and, more to the point, how they are broken.

"Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame," says Barack Obama. "I've already had an hour and a half. I mean, I'M SO OVEREXPOSED, I'M MAKING PARIS HILTON LOOK LIKE A RECLUSE."


That is pretty much the who and the why of Sen. McCain's explanation of his ad, is it not? It turns out he wasn't mocking Sen. Obama so much as channeling him. Or making a mini-documentary out of the Post's article.

Either way, it is just another example of the elite media not liking a Leftist's own words being used against him in the court of public opinion. "

" always a coincidence with you guys tommie:

Stephen Price, a reporter from the Tallahassee Democrat, tells Keith Olbermann about being kicked out of a John McCain event. Price was told only national press were allowed -- but none of the other local reporters weren't asked to leave. "The fact that I'm black was the only obvious reason," Price concludes. Watch:

http://tinyurl.com/5h4xt3 "

" Zogby: Obamas summer swoon

John Zogby usually has good news for Democrats, but not so for Barack Obama. According to his latest polling, conducted last week, Obama has not just lost his overall lead but has lost ground in core demographics he cannot afford to lose. Obama lost ground among women, young voters, and 26 points among Catholics:


"Barack Obama has lost ground among some of his strongest bases of support, including young people, women, Democrats and independents, according to a new ATV/Zogby poll.

The Illinois Democrat has also lost some support among African-Americans and Hispanics, where his lead over Republican John McCain has shrunk, and among Catholics, where hes lost his lead."

-------------------

In other words, hes fallen back across a broad front of the electorate. Most dangerously, he lost a combined total of 36 points in the 18-29 demographic. He still leads by 11 points, but young voters had been the second-most loyal base of his energy a dangerous base under any circumstances, and one proving to be just that in 2008. McCain pulled within five points of Obama among women, and now leads Obama among Catholics by 15 points after having trailed by 11 earlier.

Zogby also says that Obama lost ground in the Latino and African-American community. Maybe McCains appearances at the NAACP and the Urban League had an impact. McClatchy doesnt give the numbers, and Id suspect that the movement was small, but thats still significant. If Obama loses much ground in either or both demographic, hes toast. "

" Locke- "Furthermore, I resent your accusations that I am on the left. Trust me, if a liberal/democrat dragged us into a war based on a lie, destroyed our economy with tax-breaks for the rich"

No, no Locke. You're definitely not a Lefty. Not at all. You just happen to sound exactly like them as you parrot their baseless talking points whenever the opportunity arises. Yep, you're right down the middle, alright. The middle of Left-field. "

" McCain only won the Republican nomination because the more openly, traditionally fascist Republican candidates all crashed and burned, and that happened because the Bush and Cheney took the Republican Party down in flames with their neocon schemes.
John McCain is a Hail Mary pass thrown by a party that has destroyed itself in the process of a ruining a nation through its own bottomless greed and power lust.
And to win the nomination, McCain reversed himself on every decent view he once claimed to hold. He's a crawling, pandering hypocrite whose single unshakeable belief is in the glory of bloodshed. "

" The Bush-Cheney-McCain Iraq warmonger lies continue to unravel.
Ron Suskind, author of "The Price of Loyalty" and "The One Percent Doctrine," is out with a new book that includes CIA forgery of pre-war intelligence, the Politico reports:
A new book by the author Ron Suskind claims that the White House ordered the CIA to forge a back-dated, handwritten letter from the head of Iraqi intelligence to Saddam Hussein.
Suskind writes in "The Way of the World," to be published Tuesday, that the alleged forgery - adamantly denied by the White House - was designed to portray a false link between Hussein's regime and al Qaeda as a justification for the Iraq war.
The author also claims that the Bush administration had information from a top Iraqi intelligence official "that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - intelligence they received in plenty of time to stop an invasion." "

" McCain has decided to run against Bush. LOL.
John McCain emphasized his independent streak and reformer credentials in a new TV commercial Tuesday as he sought to counter Democratic charges that he's the same as President Bush.
"Washington's broken. John McCain knows it. We're worse off than we were four years ago," says the ad. "He's the original maverick."
"Only McCain has taken on big tobacco, drug companies, fought corruption in both parties," the ad says. "He'll reform Wall Street, battle big oil, make America prosper again."
It does not mention areas where McCain and Bush agree, like tax cuts, the Iraq war and free-market economics, a point the Obama campaign highlighted in its response to the ad.
Heres something else the ad overlooks. On The O'Reilly Factor, McCain said: "I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 ... And not only that, far more important than a vote, I campaigned everywhere in America for him ... I enjoyed it. I campaigned with him. I did everything I could to get him elected and reelected president."
Hey, Tommy, why dont you write an commercial for McCain? It could be all about what a great hero George W. Bush will be for his glorious holy war on terror. Dont let McCain diss the man you worship, Tommy. Stand by your chimp. "

" More new evidence of Bush lies to embroil the U.S. in war. Immediately after 9/11, the New York Daily News reports, White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda, according to a former FBI official:
After the Oct. 5, 2001, death from anthrax exposure of Sun photo editor Robert Stevens, Mueller was beaten up during President Bushs morning intelligence briefings for not producing proof the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide.
They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East, the retired senior FBI official told The News.
If there was any justice in the universe, Bush and Cheney would be impeached, tried and imprisoned for the rest of their rotten, fascist lives. "

" As Jim Hightower says, the significant thing about the Obama phenomenon is not Obama, its the phenomenon. After seven years of greedy, relentless Bush-Republican lies and destruction, Americans want as much change as they can grab with both hands. "

" Yes Question, now it's a new allegation of a CIA forgery of pre-war intelligence, and also a White House conspiracy involving the anthrax mailings. Well of course.

Why don't you just throw those two little gems on top of that steamy pile of Left-Wing contrived Iraq war conspiracies of your's that have YET to result in any kind of serious investigations much less any impeachment hearings.

And yes I know I know, the TRUTH is out there, but the Democrats are too cowardly to pursue it for some inexplicable reason, right? The TRUTH is out there Question, you just keep looking to the sky. I'm sure it's falling too. After all, you've been telling us that it is forever now. "

" "And yes I know I know, the TRUTH is out there, but the Democrats are too cowardly to pursue it for some inexplicable reason, right?"
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That's right. Funny that you right wingers spend decades accusing the Democrats of being cowardly, and then deny it when I actually agree with you. "

" Oh I don't think the Democrats are so much cowardly, Question. I think they're outright liars, just like you. "

" Now just why might the Democrats in Congress be so reluctant to investigate and impeach Bush, no matter how damning the evidence against him?
Well, for the sake of argument, let's say the president had seized the power of unlimited, unchecked domestic spying. Now, what ramifications of that situation might encourage his political opponents to sit down and keep their mouths shut tight? I'll give you a little hint. It begins with a "B," and they often call it an ugly word.
But of course, that's all silly and theoretical, isn't it? No American president would ever be so much of a naked totalitarian fascist that he would seize unlimited, unchecked domestic spying powers, right? "

" So tell us Question, if the Democrats have all this explosive evidence that the evil Bush White House lied this country into war, then why EXACTLY haven't they act on it?

Why haven't they launched an all out investigation complete with provable criminal charges against a political party whose current Presidential Candidate still supports the War; especially NOW during an Election Year? "

" RushBaby wrote on Aug 5, 2008 9:38 AM:If Obama loses much ground in either or both demographic, hes toast. """"

well rush, like your namesake, you're full of fertilizer.

one thing you geniuses seem to forget....60% of adults under 40 and 75% of all african-americans have no landline telephones and are unable to be polled. the only polling of these people takes place in a particular setting at a single point in time like downtown pittsburgh outside a movie theatre. it doesn't get the cross section of population that old polls used to get.....and it just so happens that this is the largest percentage of obama backers.

so as they say, figures don't lie, but liars figure. "

" And how was Bush's forged Iraq letter used?
The letters existence has been reported before, and it had been written about as if it were genuine. It was passed in Baghdad to a reporter for The (London) Sunday Telegraph who wrote about it on the front page of Dec. 14, 2003, under the headline, Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam.
The Telegraph story by Con Coughlin (which, coincidentally, ran the day Hussein was captured in his spider hole) was touted in the U.S. media by supporters of the war, and he was interviewed on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"Over the next few days, the Habbush letter continued to be featured prominently in the United States and across the globe," Suskind writes. "Fox's Bill O'Reilly trumpeted the story Sunday night on 'The O'Reilly Factor,' talking breathlessly about details of the story and exhorting, 'Now, if this is true, that blows the lid off al QaedaSaddam.'" "

" So let's recap, Question.

The Evil Bush Empire is BLACKMAILING the Democrats through the diabolical use of the Evil Wire Tapping Bill;
but the Evil Bush Empire only has the BLACKMAILING power to prevent the Democrats from investigating and impeaching The Evil Empire, but does NOT have the power to prevent the Democrats from making accusations?

Oh and, THIS theory makes sense to you, but the fact that Saddam Hussein was a threat to world peace and that the U.N. was too corrupt to stop him, doesn't? ROFLMAO! "

" The problem, Question, with your ridiculous new "forged CIA letter" conspiracy,
is that it is predicated on the Left-wing urban legend that one the reasons given for the invasion of Iraq was a Saddam/911 connection.
BUT a Saddam/911 connection was NEVER cited as a reason for the invasion.

So what we have here, is a Far-Left lie, built upon another Far-Left lie. And you're nutz. "

" Raven, The Question is just a useful
Liberal lemming who believes the constant stream of excrement that the Left throws at the public wall, in the hopes that something will stick.

That explains that funny smell around The Question. HAH "

" fatherbob wrote "so as they say, figures don't lie, but liars figure."
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And illiterate stooges like you can't read bob.
Tell it to Zogby, moron. It's their polling numbers. "

" TQ- is he back? LOL! "

" Video: Jon Stewart skewers the lefts paranoia over McCains ads

http://tinyurl.com/66fbso

Even the Liberal Stewart is making fun of the Far-Left screwballs in here. LOL!

This one's for you bobby! "

" The Democrats have plenty of evidence of Bush's and Cheney's high crimes and misdemeanors. Yet they are the dog that did nothing in the night time, and that is the curious incident. "

" Yes, he's back, Harry. In fact, whatever his current nom de guerre, he's rarely absent. "

" Right Question.
Let me translate for you:
"I can't explain my BLACKMAIL CONSPIRACY and I couldn't find any evidence of the Evil Bush connecting Saddam to 911 just now so I'll wax poetic about my nutjob theories." LOL! "

" father bob, maybe your own (claimed) race is convoluting your sense of reasoning here, but frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. You say things like *the GOP has made this whole presidential campaign about race, and how "different" people should be feared*. Nothing could be further from the truth. Are you not aware of Obama's comments, such as, *I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city*? Are you saying Obama was not referring to race? "

" New anti-Obama books selling big!

CBSNews- Anti-Obama Books Are Best-Sellers
Three Releases Criticizing Obama In Amazon Top 20 Despite Little Media Coverage

NEW YORK, August 5, 2008 AP) Going negative against Democrat Barack Obama isn't just a campaign strategy for Republican John McCain. It's also a good formula for selling books.

Three anti-Obama releases were in the top 20 of Amazon.com's best-seller list on Tuesday, despite little critical attention or mainstream media coverage.

"There's a pent-up demand from people on the right side of the aisle who feel that the mainstream media is effusively covering Barack Obama and not critically covering him," says Marji Ross, president and publisher of the conservative Regnery Publishing, Inc., which just released David Fredosso's "The Case Against Barack Obama." "

" Someone sent this to me and I can't help but share it.

I'm voting Democrat

I'm voting Democrat because I believe politicians will do a better job of
spending the money I earn than I would.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is
offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it
will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in
ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of
millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed
to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest
away to politicians for redistribution as they see fit.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a
gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

I'm voting Democratic because everybody deserves equally crappy
healthcare. Long waits for treatment do not bother me.

I'm voting Democratic because I believe that the biggest problem in
Washington DC is that the politicians just don't have enough money or
power.

I'm voting Democratic because I believe in the idea of "From each according to his ability, and to each according to his need."

I'm voting Democratic because I like the vague words "hope" and "change".

I'm voting Democratic because everybody should be entititled to food, a place to live, health care, and education while actual work and effort should become optional.

I'm voting Democratic because artificially limiting supplies of oil by not allowing drilling will lower the price of gas at the pump.

I'm voting Democratic because the real cure for racism includes
preferential policies based upon race.

I'm voting Democratic because I really like the Kool Aid. "

" Gringa: Good luck getting an answer from Father Bob on the obvious fact that it is indeed Obama who keeps injecting race into this campaign. I posited the same question on another thread and all I got was some nonsensical answer. "

" sapient! Great list! I'll be sending that list to a dozen friends and two dozen Democrats. LOL! "

" miltmart- "all I got was some nonsensical answer"

Their Liberals milt, they don't HAVE to make sense. They just have to have good intentions motivated by white-guilt and a festering hatred of themselves and of this country.

These are Liberals- not rational human beings. "

" miltmart, yeah, I know. LOL, it gets pretty old, doesn't it? You're a racist. No, you're a racist. No-no, you're a racist. Ad nauseam. I suppose one of these days I'll just read the rag version of the JG in the morning with a cup of joe, and go back to using the internet for trading stocks instead of barbs. "

" Team Obamas vetting proves inexperienced, too

Just over a week ago, the Barack Obama campaign announced with some fanfare their new Muslim outreach director, Mazen Asbahi. Within a fortnight, the media and bloggers did the vetting that Obama and his team neglected, and found that Asbahi had a habit of speaking at events sponsored by fundamentalist mosques and had served on a board with a fundamentalist imam. Faster than one can say the wheels of the bus go round and round, Asbahi found himself underneath them:


WSJ August 6, 2008- Chicago lawyer Mazen Asbahi, who was appointed volunteer national coordinator for Muslim American affairs by the Obama campaign on July 26, stepped down Monday after an Internet newsletter wrote about his brief stint on the funds board, which also included a fundamentalist imam.
.....

In 2000, Mr. Asbahi briefly served on the board of Allied Assets Advisors Fund, a Delaware-registered trust. Its other board members at the time included Jamal Said, the imam at a fundamentalist-controlled mosque in Illinois.
......

The eight-year-old connection between Mr. Asbahi and Mr. Said was raised last week by the Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report, which is published by a Washington think tank and chronicles the activities of the Muslim Brotherhood, a world-wide fundamentalist group based in Egypt. Other Web sites, some pro-Republican and others critical of fundamentalist Islam, also have reported on the background of Mr. Asbahi. He is a frequent speaker before several groups in the U.S. that scholars have associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Boy! Obama sure has lot's of "interesting" preachers, colleagues, and friends doesn't he?
And of course, he never has ANY knowledge of their past or present lives. He's always completely unaware of anything. A fine quality for a President! "

" gringa wrote on Aug 5, 2008 7:39 PM:
" father bob, maybe your own (claimed) race is convoluting your sense of reasoning here, but frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. You say things like *the GOP has made this whole presidential campaign about race, and how "different" people should be feared*. Nothing could be further from the truth. Are you not aware of Obama's comments, such as, *I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city*? Are you saying Obama was not referring to race? """"""

what the hell are you talking about??? "

" The Question wrote on Aug 5, 2008 7:02 PM:
" Yes, he's back, Harry. In fact, whatever his current nom de guerre, he's rarely absent. """"

i just figure his social worker cleans his room while he's in decompression, and throws away his log-in information and it takes another week for him to come up with a snappy new name. "

" In a legislative update sent to GOP members and staff on Tuesday, Republican House Policy Committee Chairman Thaddeus McCotter (Mich.) accused "Beijing George" Bush of throwing House Republicans "under the bone-dry bus" on his way to the Olympics in China.
His memo stated, "Today, in his final term, the wildly unpopular President George W. Bush boarded Air Force One bound for the Beijing Olympics and a meeting with his chum Hu Jintao, the dapper ruler of a nuclear armed, communist dictatorship. ... Perhaps our Compassionate Conservative-in-Chief will bring our absent Democrat Congress some 'Made in (communist) China' souvenir t-shirts: 'Bush went to Beijing and all I got was this lousy five week, paid vacation.' "
The memo ends, "Bon Voyage, Mr. Bush! House Republicans will fight on for America!"
Come on now, boys. Wheres that famous Republican goose-stepping slavish obedience, the kind that makes you take a 28-gauge shotgun blast to the face and then apologize to the drunk who shot you?
Stand by your chimp, GOP! Go down with the chimp, my valiant captains of Jesus-soaked greed and intolerance! "

" Come and listen to a story 'bout a man named McCain.
Never held a position that ever stayed the same...
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* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he's against it.
* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
* McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
* McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (although he actually still supports it.)
* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.
* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country."
* McCain said he would "not impose a litmus test on any nominee." He used to promise the opposite.
* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration's warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn't.
* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn't.
* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn't.
* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a "'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement, in that I will not raise taxes."
* McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.
* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
* McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting "irresponsibly." His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now he's against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving "feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."
* McCain said he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as "a mission accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course." In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.
* McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were "too tilted to the wealthy." By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image of the 'Straight Talk Express.'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York. "

" Tom Andres....i don't see how you can label all african americans racist. "

" father bob says *Tom Andres....i don't see how you can label all african americans racist.* Please, point me in the direction of where and when I made such a statement. Care to be more specific? Or would you prefer to just sling more totally unsubstantiated trash talk around this site? "

" Way to go, FB and TQ! Just spray it out there and see if anything sticks. Maybe some day some of it will. Keep trying. I better hurry this up because it's about time for one of you to post again and I don't want to get caught in the spray and fumes. "

" Here, let me shorten that list for you right wingers who have difficulty reading.
Issues on which Sen. John McCain has completely reversed his position at least once:
* The drilling moratorium.
* A windfall profits tax on oil companies.
* Bush's warrantless-wiretap program.
* "Privatizing" Social Security.
* Abortion rights in cases of rape and incest.
* The estate tax.
* Unlimited detention of terrorist suspects.
* Litmus tests on nominees
* Whether telecoms should explain their role in the administration's warrantless surveillance program.
* Storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.
* Moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba.
* Whether the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas.
* Whether the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria.
* Whether the NRA should have a role in the Republican Party's policy making.
* His own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997.
* His political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley.
* The Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming.
* Whether he would pledge not to raise taxes.
* A "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
* Whether he considered joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.
* Raising cigarette taxes.
* His economic worldview.
* A long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq.
* Whether Americans are both better or worse off than they were before Bush took office.
* Earmarks for Arizona.
* Whether homeowners facing foreclosure should be helped or permitted to sink.*
* Whether he would balance the federal budget by the end of his first term.
* The use of torture, specifically waterboarding.
* The Law of the Sea convention.
* Whether legal status should be granted to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school.
* His own legislation on immigration policy in general
* Whether grassroots lobbying coalitions should reveal their financial donors.
* Whether the Iraq war will be won easily.

* Whether the U.S. was or was not on the right course during the years of the Iraq occupation.
* The repeal of Roe v. Wade.
* Gay marriage should be allowed.
* Whether TV preacher Jerry Falwell was "an agent of intolerance."
* Bush's tax cuts for the rich.
* Whether he ever SAID he opposed the tax cuts.
* A major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name.
* A holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr.
* Whether presidential candidates should campaign at Bob Jones University.
* Ethanol.
* State promotion of the Confederate flag.
* Whether he would never, ever associate with Henry Kissinger, or name Kissinger the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York. "

" Poll: Trouble Signs in Obama's Lead

TimeCNN Wednesday, Aug. 06, 2008

...on specific issues, Obama is treading water or sinking a bit. On the number one issue of the campaign right now, the economy, Obama leads McCain 43%-39%, compared to 44%-37% reported by TIME's poll in June. Despite his highly touted tour of Europe, the Middle East and Afghanistan last month, Obama may be in something of a late summer slump. The poll shows that voters have increased their faith in McCain's ability to manage the Iraq war, favoring him over Obama by a margin of 51%-36%, a five point jump since June. And voters boosted their belief that McCain would do a better job in managing the war on terror than they did in June, favoring the Arizona Senator over his colleague from Illinois by a 56%-29% margin, up from 53%-33% in June.

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Rasmussens survey of voter trust yesterday, where McCain leads believe it or not on nine out of 14 issues, including by 12 points on Iraq. Quote: Perhaps the most interesting finding of these polls is that McCain has expanded his leads on nearly every issue he had previously had the advantage on, while Obamas leads have diminished over the past two weeks. Theyre dead even on the economy, and on social security, where McCain used to trail, he now leads by fully six points. Karl e-mails to say he suspects it has to do with being a wrinkly old white-haired dude, as Paris Hilton put it, but if that were so he never should have been behind. It has to be attributable to those ads chipping away at Obamas credibility, no? "

" Saturday, June 21, 2008
Collection of Obama Flip-Flops


In no particular order...



Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.

(Source: Washington Post)


Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.

(Source: Washington Post)


The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."

(Source: Washington Post)


Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."

(Source: Washington Post)


Decriminalization of Marijuana: While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.

(Source: Washington Post)


Running for President or Vice President of the United States: On the January 22nd edition of Meet the Press, Tim Russert and Obama had the following exchange:Russert: When we talked back in November of 04 after your election, I said, Theres been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?Obama: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.Russert: So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008? Obama: I will not.

(Source: Audacity of Hyprocrisy)


Single-Payer Healthcare: On January 22nd, the Hillary Clinton Campaign releases a video that proves that Obama lied about his position on single-payer healthcare.The video compares statements Obama made during the January 21st Democratic debate with those he made to an AFL-CIO conference in June 2003 while campaigning for the Senate. Contradicting what Obama said at the debate, the old footage shows the senator saying, I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare coverage. Thats what Id like to see.At the debate, Obama stated: I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer (healthcare).Single-payer healthcare is an euphemism for socialized medicine.

(Source: Audacity of Hypocrisy)


NAFTA: On February 29th, the Obama campaign told Canadian Television (CTV) that no message was passed to the Canadian government suggesting that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obamas senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.CTV didnt stop there. They announced that their sources, at the highest levels of the Canadian government, reconfirmed the story to CTV and one of their primary sources provided a timeline of the discussion to CTV.

(Source: Audacity of Hyprocisy)

7/3/08 UPDATE: Video Daily Double on the NAFTA Flip-Flop courtesy of Red State.


Donations from Lobbyists and Special Interest PACS: Obama say he doesnt take money from DC lobbyists and special interest PACS. This is the type of double-talk politics of the past rhetoric Obama rails against.While his claim is technically true, what he does do is take money from state lobbyists and other big money contributors who have substantial lobbyist machines in DC, like law firms and corporations.In April 2007, the LA Times quoted the Campaign Finance Institutes Stephen Weissman as pointing out that the distinction Obama makes on lobbyist money is meaningless: He gets an asterisk that says he is trying to be different. But overall, the same wealthy interests are funding his campaign as are funding other candidates, whether or not they are lobbyists.The Capital Eye reported that [a]ccording to the Center for Responsive Politics, 14 of Obamas top 20 contributors employed lobbyists this year, spending a total of $16.2 million to influence the federal government in the first six months of 2007.

(Source: Audacity of Hyprocisy)


Rev. Jeremiah Wright: Barack Obama repudiated what he called inflammatory and appalling remarks made by his Chicago pastor.Obama said he had not been present during the sermons in question.Obama told MSNBC, Had I heard them in church I would have expressed that concern directly to Rev. Wright.Please note, he says that he would have expressed concern, not repudiate, the words. (Source: Audacity of Hypocrisy) Previously Obama had said "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

(Source: The Hill's Pundits Blog)


Jerusalem: "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.

But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes "Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties" as part of "an agreement that they both can live with."

(Source: Jerusalem Post)


Meeting with Foreign Leaders: Obama Now Claims That He Will Only Meet With Foreign Leaders At A Time Of His Choosing If It Will Advance U.S. Interests, But Previously Said He Would Meet With Rogue Leaders His First Year In Office Without Preconditions:

In His Remarks To The AIPAC Conference, Obama Claimed That He Would Only Meet With The "Appropriate Iranian Leaders At A Time And Place" Of His Choosing. Obama: "Contrary to the claims of some, I have no interest in sitting down with our adversaries just for the sake of talking. But as President of the United States, I would be willing to lead tough and principled diplomacy with the appropriate Iranian leaders at a time and place of my choosing - if, and only if - it can advance the interests of the United States." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The Annual AIPAC Policy Conference, Arlington, VA, 6/4/08)

But At A July 2007 Debate, Obama Said He Would Meet With Hostile Leaders During His First Year In Office. Question: "[W]ould you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"...Obama: "I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them - which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration - is ridiculous." (CNN/YouTube Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Charleston, SC, 7/23/07)

At A September 2007 Press Conference, Obama Confirmed That He Would Meet Specifically With Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Question: "Senator, you've said before that you'd meet with President Ahmadinejad ..." Obama: "Uh huh." Question: "Would you still meet with him today?" Obama: "Yeah, nothing's changed with respect to my belief that strong countries and strong presidents talk to their enemies and talk to their adversaries. I find many of President Ahmadinejad's statements odious and I've said that repeatedly. And I think that we have to recognize that there are a lot of rogue nations in the world that don't have American interests at heart. But what I also believe is that, as John F. Kennedy said, we should never negotiate out of fear but we should never fear to negotiate." (Sen. Barack Obama, Press Conference, New York, NY, 9/24/07)

(Source: RNC via Fox Business)


Legislation Labeling Iran's Revolutionary Guard A Terrorist Organization: Obama Has Been Inconsistent In His Views On Labeling Iran's Revolutionary Guard A Terrorist Organization. "Obama's campaign suddenly discovered that their man -despite having spent the last nine months campaigning on his opposition to Kyl-Lieberman - 'has consistently urged that Iran's Revolutionary Guard be labeled what it is: a terrorist organization.' Well, not that consistently. Senator Obama has been scrupulously careful not to call explicitly for designation of the IRGC as a terrorist organization. Now, however, with the Democratic nomination almost in hand, Obama feels comfortable telling a pro-Israel audience what it wants to hear."(Danielle Pletka, "Obama's Pander Pivot," Weekly Standard, 6/4/08)

"[T]he Audience At AIPAC Might Ask Why Senator Obama Has Pivoted From Opposition To 'Lieberman-Kyl' To Support For The IRGC Designation His Audience Demands. Is This Really Change They Can Believe In?" (Danielle Pletka, "Obama's Pander Pivot," Weekly Standard, 6/4/08)

"Which Barack Obama Will Be The Democratic Standard-Bearer: The One Who Vowed To 'Eliminate' The Iranian Nuclear Threat Two Days Ago, Or The One Who Opposed Designating The Revolutionary Guards A Terrorist Organization?" (Editorial, "Obama And Iran," The Washington Times, 6/6/08)

(Source: RNC via Fox Business)


Palestinian Elections In 2006: Obama Says That He Opposed Palestinian Elections In 2006. Obama: "There is no room at the negotiating table for terrorist organizations. That is why I opposed holding elections in 2006 with Hamas on the ballot. The Israelis and the Palestinian Authority warned us at the time against holding these elections, but this administration pressed ahead. And the result is a Gaza controlled by Hamas, with rockets raining down on Israel." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The Annual AIPAC Policy Conference, Arlington, VA, 6/4/08)

But During His 2006 Trip To The Middle East, Obama Met With Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas And Said The Election Represented An "Opportunity...To Consolidate Behind A Single Government." "Illinois Senator Barack Obama's journey to the Middle East took him to the West Bank Thursday for a meeting with the man elected to replace Yasser Arafat. ... For a time Thursday in the West Bank there was only the clatter of cameras as the newly elected president of the Palestinian authority, Mahmoud Abbas, met with Illinois Senator Barack Obama. At a meeting with Palestinian students Thursday, Obama said the U.S. will never recognize winning Hamas candidates unless the group renounces its fundamental mission to eliminate Israel, and Obama told ABC7 he delivered that message to the Palestinian president. 'Part of the opportunity here with this upcoming election is to consolidate behind a single government with a single authority that can then negotiate as a reliable partner with Israel,' said Obama." (Chuck Goudie, "Obama Meets With Arafat's Successor," ABC 7 News, http://obama.senate.gov, 1/12/06)

The Palestinian News Agency WAFA Reported That Obama Was Supportive Of The Palestinian Elections Being Held At Their Scheduled Time. "President Mahmoud Abbas met Thursday with the U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), in the Presidential HQ in Ramallah...President briefed the U.S. Senator about the latest developments in the Palestinian territories including the preparations for the legislative elections.... Abbas and Obama discussed the means of underpinning the American-Palestinian economic relations...Obama asserted the US supports and eager that the Palestinian legislative elections on its proposed time (January 25)." ("President Meets U.S. Senator And Armenian Delegation," WAFA, http://english.wafa.ps, 1/12/06)

(Source: RNC via Fox Business)


Iraq War: At a time when American casualties are down, at a time when the violence is down, particularly affecting the Iraqi population, is that the right time to try and set time tables for withdrawing all American troops? I mean you talked aboutthe end of 2009, Kroft remarked.

Yeah, absolutely. I think now is precisely the time. I think that it is very important for us to send a clear signal to the Iraqis that we are not gonna be here permanently. Were not gonna set up permanent bases. That they are going to have to resolve their differences and get their country functioning, Obama said.

And you pull out according to that time table, regardless of the situation? Even if theres serious sectarian violence? Kroft asked.

No, I always reserve as commander in chief, the right to assess the situation, Obama replied.

(Source: 60 Minutes via Dirty Harry's Place)


The Threat of Iran: Obama's comments in Oregon yesterday:
I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us....You know, Iran, they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world.
Today in Montana, Obama changed his tune:
Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the region and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust...

(Source: Weekly Standard)


North Korea: U.S. Democratic presidential frontrunner Senator Barack Obama has recently indicated he no longer opposes the removal of North Korea from a U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism. Obama in January 2005 came out against the removal of the Stalinist nation from the list until it gives an account of the kidnapping and death in the North of the Rev. Kim Dong-shik in 2000.

(Source: ROK Drop)


PATRIOT Act: "Giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activity is the right thing, and the Senate showed earlier this year that it can be done with the oversight of our judicial system so we do not jeopardize the rights of all Americans and the ideals America stands for. We should not let the PATRIOT Act expire at the end of this year, but instead extend the current law for three months so that we can come to an agreement on these critical issues in Congress."

(Source: Obama's Senate site)

On the Issues FactCheck: Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it.

(Source: On the Issues)


Coal: Obama, whose support for coal-to-liquid has been widely criticized by environmentalists, sent out a press release clarifying his position on liquid coal:

Senator Obama supports research into all technologies to help solve our climate change and energy dependence problems, including shifting our energy use to renewable fuels and investing in technology that could make coal a clean-burning source of energyHowever, unless and until this technology is perfected, Senator Obama will not support the development of any coal-to-liquid fuels unless they emit at least 20% less life-cycle carbon than conventional fuels.

This clarification is an important step for the Obama campaign in trying to gain support from environmental organizations and voters. However, the LA Times notes that his position change on this issue is even more significant because it symbolizes theres a race to the top among the Democratic candidates for the strongest position on how to solve the climate crisis.

(Source: Carbon Coalition)


PAYGO: Obama promised to "restore a law that was in place during the Clinton presidencycalled Paygothat prohibits money from leaving the treasury without some way of compensating for the lost revenue." but now Obama says he's not going to sacrifice his domestic priorities for deficit reduction. Universal health care, renewable energy, and all he rest won't be sacrificed on the altar of PAYGO.

(Source: Q and O)


Meeting with Ahmadinejad:"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama underscored his willingness to talk to leaders of countries like Iran that are considered U.S. adversaries but said that does not necessarily mean an audience with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad." (Caren Bohan, "Obama Says Won't Guarantee Ahmadinejad A Meeting," Reuters, 5/26/08)

"'There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know he's actually in power. He's not the most powerful person in Iran,' Obama told reporters while campaigning in New Mexico." (Caren Bohan, "Obama Says Won't Guarantee Ahmadinejad A Meeting," Reuters, 5/26/08)

But in July 2007, Obama said he would meet with the leaders of hostile foreign nations, including Iran:
At a July 2007 debate, Obama announced he would personally meet with leaders Of Iran, North Korea, Syria and other hostile nations "without precondition."

Question: "[W]ould you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"

Obama: "I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them - which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration - is ridiculous." (CNN/YouTube Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Charleston, SC, 7/23/07)

(Source: RNC via NewsMax)


Illegal Immigrants and Driver's Licenses: As a state senator in Illinois, Obama voted to require illegal immigrants to get a driver's license. The change? In the November 2007 CNN debate, he was asked what his stand was on that issue and he said, "I am not proposing that's what we do."

(Source: Nashua Telegraph)
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And this list was made in June and it's INCOMPLETE! "

" Tom Andres wrote on Aug 6, 2008 12:12 PM:
" father bob says *Tom Andres....i don't see how you can label all african americans racist.* Please, point me in the direction of where and when I made such a statement. Care to be more specific? Or would you prefer to just sling more totally unsubstantiated trash talk around this site? """

i know you said it....do you deny saying it? sorry tom, your denial doesn't hold water. i think you said it so therefore you said it, and you believe it. you can deny all you want tom, but facts are facts. tom, everyone knows how you feel...it's no secret. "

" Tom this very letter to the editor brings up the race card...shame on you. you need to keep your racist views to yourself. i see you playing the race card at every turn nowdays tom. it's too bad you feel the way you do about minorities tom. "

" Right. "

" That 4:14 post by uh... well.. uh...OK I'll play along with the new name, RushBaby, must have set a cut and paste record. Does anyone really bother to read these sort of things? LOL! "

" Well Harry, no more than they read The Question's 11:05 AM or 3:39 PM posts.

See how that cuts both ways Harry?

Or did you not have a problem with those posts? "

" Can we all say it's official? Father Bob has gone off the deep end. *****

RushBaby: great list and I did read it. Imagine making your point and actually backing it up with sources. What a novel idea! "

" Father Bob IS the deep end. "

" I'll second miltmart Rushbaby, great list. It seems the Obama supporters can't handle any facts that make their messiah look like a typical Chi-Town Democrat. I read every single flip flop! "

" And Fatherbob, what is your point? Are you drinking or are you just running out of things to say? "

" If you liked Rush's list, you must have loved TQ's rundown on McCain's flip flops, miltmart. LOL!

Is it any wonder that McCain wants to talk about Paris Hilton? After reading that list of his flip flops, I don't blame him for trying to take the focus off of the real issues. "

" Come on now, boys. Wheres that famous Republican goose-stepping slavish obedience, the kind that makes you take a 28-gauge shotgun blast to the face and then apologize to the drunk who shot you?

Good one, TQ.

When I read your comments, I immediately pictured McCain hugging and kissing on Bush, even though I see he is trying to distance himself from the, as you say wildly unpopular, soon to be ex-president. Another flip flop? LOL! "

" RavenH4 wrote on Aug 6, 2008 9:57 PM:
" And Fatherbob, what is your point? Are you drinking or are you just running out of things to say? """"

ROFLMAO....just spreading a little "GOP" justice around. you know that "say anything and swear it's the truth" rationalization. c'mon tommie...ya gotta admit you're just a little more than "anti minority". your posts reflect that. and when someone calls a spade a spade....oooops...did i say that?...hehe...you get all pi55y and say you're "above all that"....you're pathetic. "

" That's it Early Bird, take it all the way down to the gutter. Can you go a little lower? I think you can. How about "snot snot snot, and your mother too!" That would add another profound level to your position.
You're living the example of Obama's new politics of Hope and Change aren't you. I must say, it certainly sounds a lot different than the old Washington politics as usual. Just like Obama's flip-flops which are completely different than the usual Washington politics. I'll bet that's that "Change" that you Obama-disciples were "Hoping" for "

" As Maureen Dowd notes, Obama didnt even tell Harvard Law School that he was black on his application. "

" Two Iraqi officials say the U.S. and Iraq are close to a deal under which all American combat troops would leave by October 2010 with remaining U.S. forces gone about three years later.
A U.S. official in Washington acknowledges progress has been made on the timelines for a U.S. departure but offered no firm date. Another U.S. official strongly suggested the 2010 date may be too ambitious.
A timetable is part of a security agreement being negotiated by U.S. and Iraqi officials. Both sides stress the deal is not final and could fall apart over the issue of legal immunity for American troops.
One of the U.S. officials said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had a long and "very difficult" telephone conversation Wednesday in which she pressed the Iraqi leader for more flexibility, particularly on immunity.
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Better late than never. And what does John "Let's stay a century" McCain have to say about this? "

" It was around this time eight years ago when the traveling campaign press seized on the "Who would you rather have a beer with?" test for the presidency, Brian Morton notes. "And five years after that, we learned that the winner of the beer test appointed the commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association as administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency before a hurricane wiped out an American city. We saw how that turned out." "

" The Jim Crow Era followed the Civil War, Reconstruction and the constitutional corrections of Amendments 13, 14 and 15, Robert C. Koehler notes. "This era was characterized by racial prejudice hardly less virulent than during the Slave Era, lynching picnics and a wide array of laws maintaining racial separation and inequality in every aspect of life. White supremacy was overt and unashamed of itself: James Jeffries was "the Great White Hope," for instance, when he took on black boxing champ Jack Johnson in 1910.
"The Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s ended the Jim Crow Era, stigmatized racism and shattered most legal forms of racial discrimination, forcing the still-virulent racism harbored in many American hearts underground. This is the era we are still in: the era of racial code words and indirect, de facto discrimination. It's the era of Bush I's infamous Willie Horton ad and Nixon's Southern strategy, by which the Republican Party quietly ceased to be the party of Lincoln. It's the Era of Forgetting.
"And Obama, by poking at the nation's subterranean racism, by suggesting that the McCain campaign was not above tapping into it through fear and innuendo, violated the cardinal rule of the Era of Forgetting: He talked about it. McCain, through Paris and Britney, sought only to remind us of how scared we used to be. It was a nostalgic appeal to the good old days. Don't make more of it than that." "

" Oh, I have one more flip-flop to add to McCain's laundry list of them:
* Whether you should check your tires. "

" McCain takes lead on YouTube hits!

'Celebrity' attacks against Obama amuse younger generation.

WashingtonTimes Thursday, August 7, 2008

Paris Hilton may think John McCain is just a wrinkly white-haired guy, but the Republican presidential candidate apparently has figured out the younger generation just fine. Over the past two weeks, his celebrity attacks have stomped Democratic presidential opponent Sen. Barack Obama in YouTube hits.

Mr. McCain has pumped out a series of brutal yet entertaining attack ads and Web videos mocking the press and Mr. Obama, and the combination of wit and insult has pushed his YouTube channel to the sixth most watched on the site this week. Mr. McCain has beat Mr. Obama's channel for seven straight days and 11 of the past 14 days, in a signal he intends to compete for the YouTube vote.

That is a giant reversal. Mr. Obama had been quadrupling Mr. McCain's YouTube views and beat him every day since February, according to TubeMogul, which tracks online video viewing."

SWEET! "

" NAME THAT PARTY.

Judge orders Detroit mayor jailed

CNN- DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick will spend the night in jail after a judge ruled he violated the terms of his bond in his perjury case by making a business trip to Canada and not informing the court.
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Gee! CNN never seems to say what political party the good mayor belongs to.

Anybody have any ideas?

I'm sure this was an honest oversite by the media. I'm quite sure. LOL! "

" UH-OH!

TIME MAGAZINE- Have the Clintons Gotten Over It?

Hillary STILL Skeptical Obama Can Win In the Fall...

Operation CHAOS still at work! "

" At least our friend has finally come clean about his admiration for the drug addict drama queen Limbaugh. Like we didn't know it all along. LOL! "

" Check this out- the drug addicted drag queen, Rush Limbaugh was lamenting that Obama is an ego maniac and his wife is on drugs. I laughed so hard that I almost had to pull my car over after that one. LOL! I don't know what happened, but after the break the old closeted Queenie came back and tried to weasel out of the drug charge. Sort of reminds me of Tom trying to back away from some of his racist Mexican jokes. "

" Dedicated to our Rush fan:

Whats the difference between a dittohead and a diaper?

They both soak up feces from an infantile sphincter, but the diaper has the decency not to spread it around. "

" Yeah, Rush really gets to you Liberal idiots doesn't he Harry. The fact that he's the most listened too voice in radio for the last twenty years just kills ya! LOL! Even through his drug addiction he still remained on top and came out of it even stronger.
Say, how's Air America doing? HA! "

" Democratic jitters as Obama heads home

Financial Times.com Published: August 7 2008-

Few people are more likely to need a holiday than Barack Obama. Yet as he heads off on Friday for his first week-long break since he launched his presidential bid 19 months ago, Mr Obama is dogged by rising angst about his campaigns direction.

Although he has run what is widely acclaimed to be one of the most impressive campaigns in years, Democrats live in fear of Mr Obama falling prey to the kinds of accident that derailed predecessors in earlier cycles.

With polls showing him neck-and-neck with John McCain at a stage at which many Democrats expected he would be in the clear lead, they worry about the kind of stray image that helped to defeat John Kerry in 2004. "

" "Two Iraqi officials say the U.S. and Iraq are close to a deal under which all American combat troops would leave by October 2010 with remaining U.S. forces gone about three years later."

I saw this story breaking on the major news outlets. Out of curosity, I visited Fox News. Suprisingly, I did not, and have yet to, see this information presented. Instead, I did see as the primary news article, a story on "how Islamic terrorist plan to distrupt the Olympics." "

" New Orleans was brought up in an earlier post and the President (big surprise!) was once again blamed for how badly things went. I suppose that Democrat Gov. Kathleen Blanco and Democrat Mayor Ray Nagin bore no responsibility? In the meantime, Mississippi, hit just as hard, picked themselves up, dusted themselves off and moved on; under a Republican administration. People in New Orleans, 3 years later, are still whining. Maybe they should take a page out of the book of good old Midwesterners who in a small town in Kansas last year and this year in Iowa were hit hard by a tornado and flooding. But do we hear about them? No, because they are perservering (sp?), moving on and fixing things themselves instead of sitting back and asking, "what have you done for me lately?" And let me guess where the posts are going to go once this is online. "

" Locke: And your point is?.......Instead of being pleased at what I would think would be good news, you use the opportunity to bash Fox News because they weren't reporting the story in the 5 minutes you probably watched. "

" What are you talking about Locke?

It's right here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399402,00.html

It's been there most of the day.

And the Conservative Blogs posted it shortly after 12 noon today. "

" Obamagasm wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:52 AM:

" That's it Early Bird, take it all the way down to the gutter. Can you go a little lower? I think you can. How about "snot snot snot, and your mother too!" That would add another profound level to your position.
You're living the example of Obama's new politics of Hope and Change aren't you. I must say, it certainly sounds a lot different than the old Washington politics as usual. Just like Obama's flip-flops which are completely different than the usual Washington politics. I'll bet that's that "Change" that you Obama-disciples were "Hoping" for "

Thanks for a good laugh, this fine morning, Obamagasm.

I'm sure that being new to this site (wink wink) you aren't aware of the gutter comments from your side.

Perhaps you have been living in a cave for the past few years, and aren't aware how folks on your side have totally gotten into the gutter with their attacks on Obama. The name you have chosen is a perfect depiction of that.

Obama has been the target of gutter politics from day one.

The age old stereotype of blacks males craving after young white females is only the latest gutter attack.

The fact that McCain's poll numbers jumped right after this ad ran indicates that smear or gutter tactics work, so I'm sure we can expect McCain to continue those sort of attacks.

And I'm sure you will criticise him for that too, LOL!.

You must not be aware of all of this, huh?

Oh and I guess you're not aware of your hero's flip flops. "

" Yes, miltmart, it's obvious that Republicans are better at handling disasters. I'm sure that was the thinking, when Bush put the horse guy in charge of FEMA. LOL! "

" Locke wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:00 PM:

" "Two Iraqi officials say the U.S. and Iraq are close to a deal under which all American combat troops would leave by October 2010 with remaining U.S. forces gone about three years later."

A campaign present for McCain?

How shocking (wink wink)...now what's coming up in November?

Actually, I believe several of us predicted this quite a while ago.

Good timing, Georgie boy! LOL! "

" Let me get this straight Early Bird;
Two white girls in an anti-Obama ad equals RACISM?
Sounds like you view everything through a racist lens Early Bird.
There's nothing more biased than a Liberal who claims to be "unbiased". LOL! "

" Rasmussen

Poll: Number who want troops home before war is won dips below 50%

"The number of Americans who believe getting the troops home from Iraq is more important than winning the war there has fallen below 50% for the first time since Rasmussen Reports began polling on the question in May." "

" "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
-H.L. Mencken
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Mission accomplished! "

" Cenk Uygur notes that back when the government was pushing the idea that Iraq might have been responsible for the anthrax attacks, we saw plenty of news stories that said this was a terrorism. Since we found out the alleged killer was a white, Christian right-wing Republican, not one news story has called this an act of terrorism.
Funny, isn't it? "

" "It took seven years for the Bush administration's military commissions system to get its first conviction for a crime that is regularly prosecuted in federal court. And when it did, it was a driver who even the administration acknowledges did not participate in the planning or execution of any terrorist attacks. Surely there is a better way to protect America and bring terrorists to justice while adhering to the constitutional values that have kept us safe and strong for 200 years."
- Rand Beers, president of the National Security Network and retired counterterrorism official. "

" Consumer debt has never been higher. Savings have never been lower. The trade deficit has never been higher. The dollar is spectacularly weak. Foreclosures are mushrooming. Quality jobs are disappearing in droves. People are working longer to maintain the same standard of living, or often less. Employers are economizing, among other ways, by cutting healthcare benefits. Real estate values are plummeting, David Michael Green notes.
George Bush has laughingly admitted that he got gentlemens Cs when he was in college (those are what the rest of us, whose daddies don't endow library wings at Ivy League schools, refer to as F's ), so perhaps that explains his misreading of the economy Given the above-referenced indicators, is what in the world would it take for the Boy Wonder to finally say that the fundamentals of the economy are not sound?
The same should be asked of the New Bush, Sen. John stay a century McCain, whose spectacularly corrupt chief economic advisor dismissed Americans who were concerned about the dying U.S. economy as whiners. "

" Question wrote "Since we found out the alleged killer was a white, Christian right-wing Republican, not one news story has called this an act of terrorism.
Funny, isn't it? "
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Hey Question, the anthrax killer (Bruce Ivins) was a STAUNCH DEMOCRAT!
according to TheDemocratUnderground.com

Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/5uggel

BWAHAHAHAAA!

FUNNY ISN'T IT! ROFLMAO "

" So Ivins was a registered Democrat who tried to murder two Democratic U.S. senators and a bunch of news media staffers? That doesn't seem likely, does it? "

" Doesn't "seem" likely, Question?

Why not? Because you Democrats are so "sane"? Like you are in here?

Did you follow my link?

The story comes from YOUR Left-Wing web site, The Democrat Underground.

And it links to another site that checked into Ivins voting registration and voting record.

No matter how you slice it; either a Democrat was a homicidal nut-case or a Democrat web site is lying. Pick your poison.

Read it and weep! LOL! "

" Harry Potter wrote on Aug 8, 2008 3:16 PM: " Oops, disreguard my last post, my meds hadn't kicked in yet.
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Huh? "

" Perhaps George W. Bush put it best on Sept. 17, 2002, when he said, "There's an old saying in Tennessee I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says, fool me once, shame on shame on you. Fool me you can't get fooled again." "

" I think Obama said it best on August 1, 2008 when he said to McCain: Youre running ads with Hillary and er with Britney and ah Paris in it "

" Obama likes to talk about hope, but then, so does Bush.
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream," Bush said in LaCrosse, Wis., on Oct. 18, 2000. "

" A few points to remember and consider:

You can verify the tax information at

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html if you'd like.

(INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES &PROPOSED CHANGES IN TAXES AFTER 2008 GENERAL ELECTION.)

Time to consider your pocketbook:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN:
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA:
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?

If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.


DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN : 15% (No change)

OBAMA : 39.6%

How will this affect you?

If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.'


INCOME TAX (find your bracket)

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reverse all tax cuts)

Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750

Under Obama, your taxes will more than double!

How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.


INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Will restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you?

Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes. (Legalized theft!!)


NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet.

New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)

New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)

New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....

New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

THE FOREGOING IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF. . . IT SHOULD MAKE YOU THINK BEFORE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE IN NOVEMBER. "

" Amusing, Raven. The difference between our quotations is, of course, that my quotes from Bush, in which he reveals himself to be a moron, are real. "

" The post at 3:16 was obviously made by our friend who changes names every few weeks. I have asked that it be removed by the moderator. If he continues to post under my name, I will inform every one of his immature and stupid stunts. We went through this with him a few months ago, and it looks like he going to try it again. The act of a rather pathetic and sick individual, I think. "

" Sapient: Unless you received an Mallard email from PFR, you ought to give credit to those that posted this on this site on another letter.

Your relocating comments in the post shows that you either got this information from my post or from the Mallard email.

You've been caught.
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ONCE AGAIN IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU REALLY THINK BEFORE VOTING!!!!!!!!! OBAMA IS NOT ALL WHAT THE MEDIA WANT YOU TO THINK HE IS!!



Don't think these affect you....think again!



Think there is no difference between the candidates? Here is Tax Data, with references, all US voters SHOULD be required to read, and understand, before being allowed to vote.

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Proposed changes in taxes after the 2008 General election:

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CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples).
McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

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DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.'

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INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500

Single making 50K - tax $12,500

Single making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 60K- tax $9,000

Married making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 125K - tax $31,250



OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)

Single making 30K - tax $8,400

Single making 50K - tax $14,000

Single making 75K - tax $23,250

Married making 60K - tax $16,800

Married making 75K - tax $21,000

Married making 125K - tax $38,750

Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

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INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

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NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet.

New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)

New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)

New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....

New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

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You can verify a lot of the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html



http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/



http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

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" Obama also likes to talk about "Change". And it seems he's changed his positions quite frequently lately. "

" Are you suggesting, Question, that my Obama quote was not real? "

" Group Plans Campaign Against G.O.P. Donors

NewYorkTimes August 7, 2008

Nearly 10,000 of the biggest donors to Republican candidates and causes across the country will probably receive a foreboding warning letter in the mail next week.

The letter is an opening shot across the bow from an unusual new outside political group on the left that is poised to engage in hardball tactics to prevent similar groups on the right from getting off the ground this fall.

Led by Tom Matzzie, a liberal political operative who has been involved with some prominent left-wing efforts in recent years, the newly formed nonprofit group, Accountable America, is planning to confront donors to conservative groups, hoping to create a chilling effect that will dry up contributions.

The warning letter is intended as a first step, alerting donors who might be considering giving to right-wing groups to a variety of potential dangers, including legal trouble, public exposure and watchdog groups digging through their lives. "

" I think this example of Obama's unscripted brilliance says it all:

May 9 2008

"It is wonderful to be back in Oregon, Obama said. Over the last 15 months, weve traveled to..a.. every corner of the United States...a... Ive now been in...(pauses)...57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it. "

" Sapient: A correction--the information that I posted was from another friend, RW, and not PFR. "

" CD: You caught me. I'm just soooo embarassed. Actually, I hadn't noticed it on the other cite until after I had posted it, however, one can't point out the truth too often. The truth is the truth and that is the absolute truth (whoops again.I keep forgetting there is no such thing as absolute truth). Obama's tax proposals and his socialistic commitments will sink this country. "

" RavenH4 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 4:27 PM:

" I think Obama said it best on August 1, 2008 when he said to McCain: Youre running ads with Hillary and er with Britney and ah Paris in it "

Better to confuse the names of Paris, Britney, and even Hillary, than to get confused about the names of large foreign countries, or even worse, talk about a country that no longer exists, as was done by the candidate obviously suffering from senility or perhaps dementia. LOL!.

I'm not surprised that the right is focusing on Obama instead of trying to justify that old Repug retread.

If McCain's handlers were smart they would stick with race baiting ads and curtail the public speaking. If they insist on having him speak publicly, they need to do the same thing Bush's handlers did, that is, have him use a hidden hearing device so his staff could correct his speaking errors, and tell him how to answer the really tough questions. "

" So, in terms of capturing the masterminds who planned and executed the two terrorist attacks against the U.S. that occurred on his watch, the Republican president has failed miserably, twice. And one of those terrorists actually worked for him. Hard to compile a more impressive record of incompetence and corrupt than that, isnt it? "

" "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." That's George W. Bush, discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson, as quoted by Robertson, and displaying the full extent of his knowledge as commander in chief. "

" The Republicans who are busy preening in moralistic high dudgeon about John Edwards' affair are forgetting the transparent abode in which their own candidate resides.
Steve Chapman, the libertarian Chicago Tribune columnist, said: "Not that Republicans would be able to make full use of this exposure had Edwards been the nominee. Their prospective nominee, after all, was guilty of the same sin during his first marriage."
Cenk Uygur at AOL News said: "Now that Edwards has admitted to an extramarital affair, everyone will now condemn him and say he has no political career left. I want to ask all of those people, how is Edwards' affair any different John McCain's? If Edwards is disqualified from running for office because of this, isn't McCain as well?"
What could be more important than the adulterous affairs of a Democrat who isn't running for president? How about the adulterous affairs of a Republican who is?
But don't worry. The so-called "liberal media" will probably cover up John McCain's scandals, just as they always do. "

" It's official, both Bush and Cheney will speak at the Repug convention.

What? Just a few days ago, McCain was trying to distance himself from those two. Must be a Karl Rove move.

Here's what two Internet bloggers had to say about that decision:

After the thousands of Republican convention goers are shown giving Bush and Cheney extended standing ovations and genuflections and we get closeups of McCain weeping with joyous ecstasy in the presence of his mentors, the American people will hopefully finally realize that we can't keep handing the car keys to people who don't believe in traffic laws and never even learned to drive anyway.

Someone else noted that having the most unpopular president and VP of the century speak was a gift falling into Obama's lap. I agree.

While the hard core base will no doubt fall all over Bush and his number two thug, this will probably motivate the opposition even more to retire as many Repugs as possible on election day.

Although I don't look forward to watching Bush mangle the English language, and seeing Grandpa John slobbering all over Bush, I like this decision on the part of the McCain camp. "

" Here's the difference between Democrats and Repugs when it comes to fooling around. Democrats (like Clinton & Edwards) go for the opposite gender, and Republicans (such as Larry Craig, Foley and Limbaugh) go for their own gender. Oops, not always, when John McCain was having his extramarital affair, he had the decency to go after someone of the opposite gender. LOL!

No TQ, the Repugs will look awfully foolish if they try to make an issue on this. I suspect they will be quiet as Church mice over Edwards admitted affair. Of course Fox news, and the number one radio drama queen will carry on about it for weeks.

After several well publicized affairs, McCain should be the last person to bring it up. LOL! "

" Oh that's nothing Harry. Obama apparently thinks that there are 57? 58? or possibly 59 states in the U.S.

Now is that senility or just his blatant stupidity that tends to reveal itself when he doesn't have a teleprompter or script in front of him? "

" Explaining last May, why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography:

Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So its not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.

On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois? "

" Another reason for not voting for Obama. He is against the defense of marriage act and in favor of gay adoption. Obama sent a letter outlining his position to Jennifer Chrisler, Executive Director of the Family Equality Council, after the homosexual lobby group demanded his response to Republican presidential contender John McCain's statement to the New York Times three weeks ago: "I don't believe in gay adoption." (http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071408.html)

"That's why we have to repeal laws like the Defense of Marriage Act. That's why we have to eliminate discrimination against LGBT families. And that's why we have to extend equal treatment in our family and adoption laws."

This will please the lefties, but this is not what most of America believes. "

" It looks like Joe Lieberman is on McCain's shortlist for VP. I'm surprised that the Dems haven't striped him of his leadership positions in the senate for his having traveled around the country touting McCain's bid for the presidency.

I really don't think McCain is seriously considering him, and this is probably just throwing him a bone for his disloyalty to the Dems.

As poor of a choice as I think Lieberman would be, I think the consummate brown noser and scheming opportunist Mitt Romney would be worse.

Perhaps the best candidate for McCain would be senator Larry Craig. I hear he's going to be looking for work after November. LOL! "

" Sapient says:

This will please the lefties, but this is not what most of America believes.

Using that standard, why are we still in Iraq? LOL! "

" Harry Potter wrote on Aug 9, 2008 5:31 PM:

" Here's the difference between Democrats and Repugs when it comes to fooling around. Democrats (like Clinton & Edwards) go for the opposite gender, and Republicans (such as Larry Craig, Foley and Limbaugh) go for their own gender. Oops, not always, when John McCain was having his extramarital affair, he had the decency to go after someone of the opposite gender. LOL!

No TQ, the Repugs will look awfully foolish if they try to make an issue on this. I suspect they will be quiet as Church mice over Edwards admitted affair. Of course Fox news, and the number one radio drama queen will carry on about it for weeks.

After several well publicized affairs, McCain should be the last person to bring it up. LOL! "
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The Difference Between John Edwards and John McCain

10 Aug

Posted by macranger as 2008 Election, John Edwards, News, democrats

Since Edwards has to pull out the Weasel Clause and use John McCains indiscretions as a See he did it too moment, Im going to have to reiterate the point I made in a previous post.

John McCain never stood before the American people and said that He never had sex with that woman, or called anyone a liar for even bringing it up.

It says a lot about Edwards, as it did Clinton, of the character of one when they get caught of how fast they pull out the Weasel Card.

Although Edwards lied time and time again to the American public through the media that the story was false, instead of just saying Im a liar, kick me in the (a)ss, he has to drag others into the muck with him.

What a tool. "

" The "news" reporters, the pundits, and the public all like a good sex scandal, so they jumped on the Edwards story like hungry wolves, Mary Shaw noted. This one has all the ingredients to sell lots of newspapers: a handsome politician, a cancer-stricken wife, two small kids at home, and an attractive, younger, blonde 'other woman.'
Plenty to judge. Schadenfreude heaven. Cha-ching.
So then why do the media remain relatively silent about John McCain's infidelities? If they are so interested in politicians' marital infidelities, why do we not hear about the fact that McCain's wife, Cindy, was his mistress while McCain was still married to his first wife? And why did the Vicki Iseman scandal have such a short shelf life?
My guess is that it's because the media today are owned by just a very few rich guys who have their political and financial reasons to serve the Republican party that gave them their current level of power and wealth through ever-growing media consolidation and deregulation.
This very story illustrates how just deeply the corporate news media is in the tank for McCain. "

" Obamas 3 AM Breakfast: Waffles

Barack Obama has apparently reversed himself on what John McCain called a 3 AM moment, in reference to Hillary Clintons primary campaign ad. Originally, Obama had decided to castigate both Georgia and Russia over the outbreak of hostilities in South Ossetia, even while Russian bombs fell on Georgia itself. Today, Obama has changed his tune, following McCains lead in demanding that Russia cease its aggression:

Reuters Sat Aug 9, 2008 10:26pm - "Obama called for direct talks among all sides and said the United States, the U.N. Security Council and other parties should try to help bring about a peaceful resolution.

I condemn Russias aggressive actions and reiterate my call for an immediate ceasefire, Obama said in a statement.

Russia must stop its bombing campaign, cease flights of Russian aircraft in Georgian airspace, and withdraw its ground forces from Georgia.
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BUT heres Obama's original statement:

Politico Sat Aug 9 7:52 AM- I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict, Obama said in a written statement. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint and to avoid an escalation to full-scale war. Georgias territorial integrity must be respected.
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McCain, however, initially responded sooner than Obama (who, it should be noted, was in transit to Hawaii), and with a great deal more accuracy. "

" Mark Penn, the top campaign strategist for Hillary Rodham Clintons campaign, advised her to portray Barack Obama as having a limited connection to basic American values and culture, according to a forthcoming article in The Atlantic.

The magazine reports Penn suggested getting much rougher with Obama in a memo on March 30, after her crucial wins in Texas and Ohio: Does anyone believe that it is possible to win the nomination without, over these next two months, raising all these issues on him? Wont a single tape of [the Reverend Jeremiah] Wright going off on America with Obama sitting there be a game ender?

Penn, the presidential campaigns chief strategist, wrote in a memo to Clinton excerpted in the article: I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values. "

" Hammering Obama on Jeremiah Wright? Looking for video of the Obamas nodding approvingly to Wrights demagoguic tirades on race and America? It didnt start with the Republicans at all; it started with the Clintonites. Furthermore, the Clintonites apparently agreed with Republicans in their assessment of Obama and his long-time association with anti-American radicals like Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, and Bernardine Dohrn. They concluded that Obama is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.

Democrats came to that conclusion long before Republicans even worried about Obama. In March 2007, Penn warned Clintons team to focus on values-based voters, women, and working- to middle-class families. That strategy finally got adopted in February 2008, when it was just a little too late to help, but Penn saw Obamas flaws very clearly even in the early stages of the race. "

" Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson says there's a lot
of truth to President George Bush's comment that Wall Street "got drunk and now it's got a hangover."
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Yes. That is EXACTLY the kind of metaphor that Bush would understand, isn't it? "

" Despite creeping toward withdrawal himself, McCain continues to lambaste Obama for setting a timetable, columnist Steve Chapman observed. "But if the current policy is the stunning success depicted by McCain, it should be eminently practical to turn Iraq over to the Iraqis by the middle of 2010. If it is impossible to do that, more than seven years after the occupation began, how can McCain say the existing strategy is working?" "

" Hey cd, Sean Hannity says it was OK for McCain because he was a prisoner of war. LOL!

Actually, Clinton, Edwards and McCain are all unfaithful reprobates and you know it. Just because McCain didn't try to weasel out when caught, doesn't make him one bit better, prisoner of war or not. All three of them cheated on their spouses and that says a lot about the character of all THREE of them. "

" McCain has an unusual relationship with facts. He refuses to acknowledge them.
After Obama proposed a 16-month timetable for U.S. troops to exit Iraq and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said that it sounded good, McCain initially denied that al-Maliki said it. Then, he stated: "It's a pretty good timetable based on conditions on the ground." Two days later, he denied using the word "timetable." As we all know, newfangled videe-oh and voice recording machines don't exist, yet, in McCain's world.
Addressing a crowd in New Mexico, he fantasized: "I know how to win wars. I know how to win wars - And if I'm elected president, I will turn around the war in Afghanistan, just as we have turned around the war in Iraq, with a comprehensive strategy for victory. I know how to do that."
McCain didn't reveal what wars he'd won but, rumor has it, one involved Helen of Troy and a big, wooden horse.
Ed Naha "

" Karl Rove's strategy is always to attack an enemy's strong point and pervert it into a propagandized vice. In this case, Obama's polish and intelligence is reframed as "elitism," while, shucks, old McCain's private jets and his wife's $100 million inherited fortune are jess plain folks stuff.
Right wingers have also suggested that Obama is too well-educated, and too fit. I kid you not.
The "elitist" label also plays into the sullen, lizard-stupid, lowlife resentments that rich whites have traditionally used to keep poor Southern whites focused on hating blacks instead of wondering why they remain poor. "

" Harry Potter wrote on Aug 10, 2008 4:09 PM:

" Hey cd, Sean Hannity says it was OK for McCain because he was a prisoner of war. LOL!

Actually, Clinton, Edwards and McCain are all unfaithful reprobates and you know it. Just because McCain didn't try to weasel out when caught, doesn't make him one bit better, prisoner of war or not. All three of them cheated on their spouses and that says a lot about the character of all THREE of them. "
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True, HP, cheating is cheating. But lieing is lieing.
Clinton and Edwards Lied! "

" "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c***." John McCain, responding to his wife commenting that his hair was thinning, as reported by three Arizona reporters on the campaign trail in 1992, from Cliff Schecter's book The Real McCain. "

" So what your inferring is that McCain's infidelity is less serious because he didn't lie about it, huh? Having a bit of a struggle criticizing a fellow Repug, huh cd? LOL! "

" Georgia has a message for Big Mouth McCain.
Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili on Wednesday called for John McCain and other American leaders to do more for Georgia in their response to the conflict in his country.
"Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, 'We are all Georgians now,'" Saakashvili said on CNN's American Morning. "Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it's time to pass from this. From words to deeds." "

" Harry Potter wrote on Aug 12, 2008 7:14 AM:

" So what your inferring is that McCain's infidelity is less serious because he didn't lie about it, huh? Having a bit of a struggle criticizing a fellow Repug, huh cd? LOL! "
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No HP, what I'm saying is that McCain didn't compound the situation with adding lieing to the mix.

They were all equally guilty of infidelity. For that, they all should have been equally raked over the coals.
But Clinton's and Edward's lieing added to it. McCain took his heat straight up, Clinton and Edwards attempted to lie themselves out of it.

If that were enough to disqualify the three from any office, where do we stop?
What about breaking the law whether misdemeanor or felonies?

What about those ethic improprieties?

What about all the other 'sins' by Biblical or Civil standards of our elected officials?

What about those situations that are perfectly legal and ethical, that hints at illegality, or common decency?

And the last, but not necessarily least, passing the mustard of everyone in this forum? ;-)

Since our elected are human, and their are no PERFECT humans, where do you suggest we find anyone that doesn't flunk at least one of the above questions? "

" CORRECTION:

What about those situations that are perfectly legal and ethical, that hints at illegality, or common ^indecency^? "

" Any man who cheats on his wife is scum as it is. Crap like that ruins families and should be highly un american but unfortunately it's as common as cellphones and probably goes hand in hand. "

" I don't trust anything that McCain/Obama say's..That is why my vote goes to the third party. "

" Most working families today do not have homes that have anywhere near ten rooms. John McCain has ten houses. Many working people in America have to work two and three jobs to provide for their families and pay their car loans. John McCain hops on a private jet. Is it any wonder why McCain champions a George Bush agenda of cutting taxes for corporations and the wealthy, helping oil companies turn record profits, and leaving working families to fend for themselves? McCain's velvet world leaves him utterly unprepared to make the tough choices we need to restore the middle class and ensure that everyone in America has quality, affordable health insurance.
Andy Stern, President, Service Employees International Union (SEIU) "

" Obama ready to pick a VP.

Mr. Obama had not notified his choice or any of those not selected of his decision as of late Monday, advisers said. Going into the final days, Mr. Obama was said to be focused mainly on three candidates: Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana, Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia and Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware

On the Republican side it looks like McCain will be picking one of the following: Senator Larry Craig, former congressman Mark Foley or possibly Tom Delay. McCain said which ever one stayed out of jail would be his pick. He also noted that his first pick, Duke Cunningham was unavailable for the time being. "

" Remember how Bush continually lied that he was going to "cut the deficit in half" by some BS future date, even as he continued to spend borrowed billions like a stupid drunk? Here is the truth from the BBC:
"The next US president is expected to face a record federal budget deficit of almost half a trillion dollars."
That, plus a national debt closing in on $10 trillion. A great example of that good, old Republican "fiscal responsibility" for you. "

" I think it would be easier to list the things Bush didn't lie about, TQ. It would be a much shorter list. "

" The Republican man of the people, John McCain, said in an interview with Politico on Wednesday that he was uncertain how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own.
"I think -- I'll have my staff get to you," McCain said. "It's condominiums where -- I'll have them get to you."
Gee, I'll bet that "elitist" Obama does actually remember how many houses he owns. Darn elitist, always showing off his smarty-pants memory.
By the way, McCain owns 10 homes worth an estimated $13,823,269. "

" More Republican racism from Limbaugh:
On the August 20 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh asserted of attacks by Sen. John McCain against Sen. Barack Obama: "[S]ee, there are Democrats -- the drive-bys" -- a term Limbaugh uses to denote the national media -- "are just so upset with these so-called 'ferocious attacks.' These have been benign. Even the Britney Spears/Paris Hilton ad was funny. It was benign." He later added: "It's -- you know, it's just -- it's just we can't hit the girl. I don't care how far feminism's saying, you can't hit the girl, and you can't -- you can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right, It's not fair. He's such a victim." "

" Hey TQ, did you hear the guy who got past the screener on the drama queens show today who called Limbaugh out for not being able to keep McCain from getting the nomination. Limbaugh's response was hilarious. This guy had him on the ropes over the fact that despite the efforts of all the right wingers on the radio, McCain got the nomination. Limbaugh was sputtering and at a loss for words and couldn't get rid of the guy fast enough. Of course he dumped the call and thought for a minute and came back with his usual bombastic line about how this guy was an idiot and had no idea of what really happened. I was surprised the guy actually got through, as it seems the only who get on the show are those who heap praise on the old windbag. LOL! "