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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
LETTER: Somewhere, Machiavelli is surely applauding



Thursday’s headline was, “All options open in dealing with Iran, Bush says.” Doesn’t that make you a bit nervous? Though his host, Angela Merkel, explicitly stated that “I pin my hopes on diplomatic efforts,” George Bush indicated he was “willing to give diplomacy a chance to work” [remember when we heard that before?] but that “all options are on the table.”

From Inauguration Day, Bush was determined to attack Saddam. At the first meeting on national security, Secretary O’Neill reports that all attendees were ordered to “Go find me a way to do this.” When informed by intelligence officers the evidence against an Al Qaeda link with Iraq was overwhelming, Bush demanded “any shred” of evidence against Iraq and when subsequent reports continued to deny a linkage the reply was, “Wrong answer; do it again.“

Skipping over all the backstage movement concealed from the public, White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card said on Sept. 7, 2002, “From a marketing point of view you don’t introduce new products in August.“

But the Republican establishment began to talk about the “aluminum tubes,” “mushroom clouds,” the “Axis of Evil,” mobile biochemical laboratories, “yellowcake,” and it became evident to all that the decision had been made, despite the fact that the Downing Street Memorandum had already declared the evidence provided by the US “frankly unconvincing“, sounding more like “a grudge between Bush and Saddam.“

So today’s events resemble the same scenario that we’ve been through before. But this time Bush has an even stronger motivation. His approval ratings below freezing, it seems there is no positive way that he can improve them before January. The Warren G. Harding Club is already dancing with glee. But there is one way that GWB can improve his legacy, and that is to be followed by a president with lower ratings than his — and what easier way to do that than to saddle him with another unwinnable war.

So stand back and watch it unfold through the same stages as before: claims of efforts at diplomacy, efforts at enlisting the support of other countries and then — particularly if a Democrat is elected in November — a midnight attack on Iran, leaving the new president with not two, but three, impossible wars, his hands further tied by the Bush directive that troops will serve shorter deployments with longer intervals between them.

Somewhere, Machiavelli is surely applauding.


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The Question wrote on Jun 25, 2008 5:54 AM:

" Atkins nails the fascists again. "

Early Bird wrote on Jun 25, 2008 6:00 AM:

" Regardless of what happens in Iran, the new president will have his hands full considering what he will be inheriting from the current administration.

It's time for a new leader, with new ideas. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:10 AM:

" Looks like Ferrel's firin' up the ole BatSignal again.

Okay Moonbats- synchronize your Loontard conspiracy theorizes

in......three......two....one... "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:13 AM:

" Early Bird- "It's time for a new leader, with new ideas."
------

Let me know when we get one-

unfortunately, all we have are Barry Hussein and McCain............ "

Presidential Candidate wrote on Jun 25, 2008 11:59 AM:

" Early Bird wrote on Jun 25, 2008 6:00 AM: "It's time for a new leader, with new ideas."

It's time for a new leader the the RIGHT ideas! Hence:

http://www.voteformein2008.blogspot.com "

even steven wrote on Jun 25, 2008 1:00 PM:

" Machiavilli can't be applauding. He's dead... much like letter writer's brain. "

Cognitus wrote on Jun 25, 2008 2:09 PM:

" Lamphier writes:"Let me know when we get one-
unfortunately, all we have are Barry Hussein and McCain............ "
To begin with, our present president
uses English as if it were his 2nd language (listen to Great Speeches on
Dave Letterman). Barry Hussein has
admirable command of the English language, perhaps even better than Lamphier, and McCain can speak it tho he has a little trouble reading it from teleprompters -- but he has that winning smile (think he uses tooth-whitener?) while waiting for the next page to come up.
Lamphier refers to Obama as "Barry Hussein" -- I wonder why he didn't also refer to "Johnney Sidney".
Lamphier, sorry to tell you you're outnumbered. Google can find only 62,000 Lamphiers, but 31 million Husseins.
Lamphier itself... hmm sounds Frenchie...... and you know how we Americans feel about the French -- remember FREEDOM Fries in the Senate. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 4:35 PM:

" Cognitus, let me know when we get one-

unfortunately, all we have are Barry Hussein and McCain............ "

Cognitus wrote on Jun 25, 2008 5:18 PM:

" even steven wrote on Jun 25, 2008 1:00 PM:
" Machiavilli can't be applauding. He's dead...
As I interpreted it the "Somewhere"
rather implied he was .... looking down
from "somewhere" other than earth..... "

father bob wrote on Jun 25, 2008 5:40 PM:

" Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 4:35 PM:
" Cognitus, let me know when we get one-

unfortunately, all we have are Barry Hussein and McCain............ """

it's ok Doh....if we're lucky, when you go back in about 3 weeks for your decompression, they'll put you in a drug induced coma and awake you in about 12 years when hillary's starting her second term....nite-nite... "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 6:28 PM:

" hmmmmm....I wonder when ole Dohbaugh's going to blow in here and give us the latest results from his Prescott Bush/Nazi "fact-finding" mission at the local grocery store. I certainly hope they had the latest National Enquirer and Globe "references" for his research. I know how much he loves his "work".......coockoo* coockoo* coockoo*............. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 6:33 PM:

" fatherbob- "if we're lucky, when you go back in about 3 weeks for your decompression, they'll put you in a drug induced coma and awake you in about 12 years when hillary's starting her second term....nite-nite..."
------
Let me know when you've finally awaken from yours fat-headbob.....good morning Dizzy..... "

Locke wrote on Jun 25, 2008 7:08 PM:

" When all else fails, start calling people names. Great tactic. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 25, 2008 8:10 PM:

" Locke- "When all else fails, start calling people names. Great tactic."
------
Yeah Locke, why do people on the Libtard side do that?

Hey Locke- can you help Harry Potter out? Can you fill us in on his Nazi theory? "

ed miller wrote on Jun 25, 2008 10:13 PM:

" Cognitus wrote on Jun 25, 2008 2:09 PM:
"... Barry Hussein has
admirable command of the English language..."

He shore does have a purdy mouf!

It's sad, but's that's why so many are enamored with Obama. Someone in USA Today had a perfect description of the Senator as a "Ferrari without an engine, wonderfully shiny, but with nothing under the hood." "

The Question wrote on Jun 26, 2008 5:42 AM:

" To begin with, our present president uses English as if it were his 2nd language (listen to Great Speeches on
Dave Letterman).
----------------
As someone observed, listening to Bush try to finish a sentence is like watching a fat drunk attempt to cross an icy street. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 26, 2008 7:13 AM:

" TQ- "As someone observed, listening to Bush try to finish a sentence is like watching a fat drunk attempt to cross an icy street."
------
Yet you still make it across the street- fat, drunk, and all- eh TQ. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 26, 2008 7:43 AM:

" Gee, eddie, yet another gay reference?

You just can't control yourself, can you?

And of course I expect Doh to come to your rescue again. "

ed miller wrote on Jun 26, 2008 8:42 AM:

" What gay reference? I was talking about fancy speeches. You seem to be the one bring up the gay thing all of the time. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 26, 2008 12:01 PM:

" Harry P's homophobia strikes again.

........sad really........

Maybe a nice little Nazi conspiracy will take his mind off of those filthy little thoughts......hmmmmmmm..... "

Cognitus wrote on Jun 26, 2008 2:59 PM:

" "Ferrari without an engine, wonderfully shiny, but with nothing under the hood."

Whoever wrote this either hasn't been
listening or has dropped his wrench into
the grease pit. "

father bob wrote on Jun 26, 2008 4:12 PM:

" Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 26, 2008 12:01 PM:
" Harry P's homophobia strikes again.

........sad really........

Maybe a nice little Nazi conspiracy will take his mind off of those filthy little thoughts......hmmmmmmm..... """

as i recall Doh, you're just more than a little interested in the male derrire. you've often spoke of spankings in particular. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 26, 2008 6:15 PM:

" fatherbob- "as i recall Doh, you're just more than a little interested in the male derrire. you've often spoke of spankings in particular."
-------
Hey bobby?

Have you thought about maybe.......seeing a "professional"......maybe someone in the "medical" field..........say, someone who could write you a nice little prescription......and maybe have you lie down on a couch and talk your problems out......?

I think the time has come for you to seriously consider that option bobby. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 26, 2008 6:16 PM:

" Thanks for the reminder, fb. I had forgotten Doh's obsession over that issue too. LOL! I seem to recall him going on for quite a while about that. I wonder if Doh and ed miller could exchange numbers and leave the rest of us out of their little conversations? "

lefty wrote on Jun 27, 2008 12:57 AM:

" Ok guys, I cant stand it anymore! I have to admit.. I am GRINGA & BRYANT LAMPHIER... lol! I cannot believe no one saw this! Seriously, it should have been clear. It just shows how I operate at such a higher level, which you notice moreso when I sign in as BRYANT or GRINGA. I may continue posting under those two names, but we shall see... "

Early Bird wrote on Jun 27, 2008 4:59 AM:

" What's with all the homosexual comments on this thread? There is a thread strictly for that subject. Miller and Bryant L need to move over to it. LOL! "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 27, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Early Bird wrote on Jun 27, 2008 4:59 AM:
" What's with all the homosexual comments on this thread? There is a thread strictly for that subject. Miller and Bryant L need to move over to it. LOL! "
--------
Well good morning- Harry Potter- or is it fatherbob? "

father bob wrote on Jun 27, 2008 9:49 AM:

" lets see.....BL's called Harry homophobic, he's called me homophobic, he's called question homophobic....he's sure interested in homophobia....seems like we all have supported gay/lesbian/trans-sexual/trans-gendered issues.

i think all i have ever done is bring to his attention he's perpetual interest in the male derrire.

he needs his 3 week decompression in a bad way.

i suppose we should be happy to see Doh expand his horizons though, now he can be obsessed with homophobia and get off the WMDs for a while. "

The Question wrote on Jun 27, 2008 10:03 AM:

" "Well good morning- Harry Potter- or is it fatherbob? "
------
LOL. Harry and Bob have different writing styles and insights, BL. You must have a tin ear for dialogue. So if you're planning to write any documentary screenplays about Saddam's vast, secret volcano lairs full of death rays and doomsday bombs, you're going to need a ghostwriter, I'm afraid. "

ed miller wrote on Jun 27, 2008 10:46 AM:

" This thread is getting out of hand. It's amazing how fast you sank into the "I'm not gay, you are" debate. Shows your level of maturity. I'm done here. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 27, 2008 5:14 PM:

" Oh yes Question- Harry P and fatherbob have *completely* different writing styles.

Yeah, Harry uses capital letters and bob doesn't. Other than that- one is simply an echo of the other.

Soooooo Question, who's ghostwriting your screenplay about those patriotic Democrats who told us all about Saddam's vast, secret volcano lairs full of death rays and doomsday bombs?

I'll bet it's speedbump-harrybob.....am I right? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 27, 2008 5:52 PM:

" Well Dang! No offense, fb, but I wanted to be TQ and EB too. Following your logic, Doh, you would be Tom Andres, ed miller, gringa, Neo and every other right wing nut case who ever posted on here. Seriously, Doh, you need to get back on your medication. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 27, 2008 7:01 PM:

" Maybe Bryant L could bring back Doh full time to write those screen plays, TQ. And by the way, I'm not at all insulted that Dohnut boy thinks I'm fb, actually I take it as a compliment. "

The Question wrote on Jun 27, 2008 7:18 PM:

" "Shows your level of maturity. I'm done here."
---------------
Be still my beating heart. Remember, he has teased us with false promises of his disappearance before. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 27, 2008 7:47 PM:

" I've got the *perfect* opening speech for Questions screenplay about those patriotic Democrats who told us all about Saddam's vast, secret volcano lairs full of death rays and doomsday bombs:

Senator John D. Rockefeller (Democrat) SENIOR MEMBER OF THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE Addressing the US Senate October 10, 2002:


"There has been some debate over how "imminent" a threat Iraq poses. I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated. It is in the nature of these weapons, and the way they are targeted against civilian populations, that documented capability and demonstrated intent may be the only warning we get. To insist on further evidence could put some of our fellow Americans at risk. Can we afford to take that chance? We cannot!"
---------

Ooooooooo look at that.....did he insinuate that Saddam and 9/11 were connected...ooooooooo

So whaddya think TQ? Looks like a winner huh.....? "

The Question wrote on Jun 28, 2008 11:10 AM:

" You can stop peddling your arcane, fear-the-nonexistent WMD blather any time now, BL. John McCain and Alan Greenspan have already admitted what the Iraq invasion was about.
During a townhall event in Denver in May, John McCain said, "My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will that will then prevent us that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East."
Oops! The slip confirmed what former Fed Chief Alan Greenspan wrote, admitting that that he is saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Jun 28, 2008 3:56 PM:

" Sure thing TQ- just as soon as you stop peddling your un-provable, conspiratorial ramblings of "fixed Intel", cherry-picking, phony-memos, subliminal speeches and unsubstantiated oil theft.

Or better yet- PROVE IT......... "

Read all over wrote on Jul 5, 2008 9:03 AM:

" As our newspaper chooses to minimize any coverage of John McCain, I invite the reader to look at this site:

http://therealmccain.com "

Presidential Candidate wrote on Jul 8, 2008 7:58 AM:

" I don't know if The Question quoted Sen. McCain correctly in his post of Jun 28, 2008 11:10 AM or not, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he did.

I cannot believe that Sen. McCain would say something like "...eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will then prevent us that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East." That's as much as saying we went to the Middle East because of our dependence on oil from there.

If one can state we will never have to fight in the Middle East if we aren't dependent upon them for oil, one must have to know two things: One, that we went there because of oil in the first place, and two, that oil would be the only reason we'd go there again.

If oil really WAS the reason we went there in the first place, then it's amazing how STUPID our Senate and House can really be! "

 


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