" Nice editorial, Harry. Bigotry, hatred and intolerance are also expressed here on this site everyday. Anyone recall the "God hates fags" comments posted a while back? Often times these kinds of views are expressed by those who claim to be Christian. I would call that a oxymoron too. Check out the comments by one such poster on the Seattle ballpark thread. "

" egocentric, narcissistic people tend to open their mouth and let their brain fall out when given an opportunity to perform before a crowd. the bigger the crowd the bigger the show......and somewhere midway through, their out of brains. "

" I fail to see the relavance of what some priest says about something, all of a sudden being national news. "

" I don't see why everyone is getting in such a snit about this guy. Those who have watched Chicago news for years know this is just routine stuff for him. Just same-o, same-o. The guy is a certified fruitcake, the kind you learn to ignore. "

" The relevance is that Fixed news helped make a big deal out of it, because with their slanted reporting they are trying to tie him to Obama. They will be going after Obama's paperboy for stealing an apple from a local fruit stand later tonight.

But, as our friend Tom Andres says, "thank God for the FNC". "

" "A people united, will never be divided!" Viva la Comrades Obama, Rezko, Blagojevich, Chavez, and Castro!

(Practice the above chant for when Premier Obama takes over in January!)

Greetings comrades of the People's Republic of Illinois (PRI); you "enlightened bloggers" setting the "facts" straight vis-a-vis the Fixed (FOX) News Channel.

Au contraire comrades! Doing the "work of the state" WE HAVE A PROUD CONNECTION, a priori, between comrade Obama, of the ruling state Duma located in Chicago, and comrade priest Pfleger.

In addition to giving $20,000 of his own money to Jeremiah Wright, as a state senator Obama directed $225,000 of the Illinois taxpayers' money for programs run by Father Pfleger. In the U.S. Senate, Obama earmarked $100,000 of federal tax money for Father Pfleger's work. Giving someone more than 300 grand is not just some tenuous, coincidental association or is it comrades? "

" The only thing missing from Pfleger's tirade was his "black face" makeup. He's a cartoon character. "

" Neo, you're starting to sound a little bitter. Hey, your side had their turn, and look at the mess we're in today. Time for a change? "

" It,s easy for the cardinal to forgive him.the cardinal told him what to say. "

" Hey Neo, how do you feel about Bush and Cheney's financial connections? I guess because their Republicans,
they get a pass. And I'll bet you're even willing to overlook Bush's financial connections to the Ben Laden family too. I suspect your indignation runs along party lines. "

" I saw this on a site discussing Bush's legacy:

When someone asks me what is the worst thing Bush has done to date, I have to say that because everything that man does gets worse by the day, we will have to wait until the last day of his administration to properly answer that question.

I rally liked that, but I have decided that the worse thing he has done was to provide false and incomplete status reports to the congress in order to get their support for his invasion and resulting slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, including women and children, in Iraq.

We now know that the information provided to congress was incomplete.

As time passes, we will find out more about this subhuman piece of feces and his unrepentant gang of thugs.

History will probably rank him right up there with Hitler and Stalin.

Let's hope that Obama uses better judgement when selecting his VP than Bush, who selected a reprobate who had been playing the revolving door game between government and the military industrial complex for his entire career. That should have been a clue to that moron. By the way is any one surprised to learn that Halliburton went from number 18 to number 1 for government military contracts since Cheney became the VP? Probably just a coincidence, right Tom A?

Does anyone know if Cheney has given those Halliburton options to charity as promised yet? LOL! Just kidding, we all know the answer to that question.


Bush's choice of Cheney as VP would also rank toward the top of Bush's poor decisions.

Bush has done to this country what he has done to every business he was ever involved with, that is, ran it into the ground.

Well, actually there was one successful business, the one where he was used for his name to squeeze money out of the taxpayers to build a privately owned baseball team a new stadium. He was rewarded quite well for that con job too, over 14 million dollars.

I have to laugh everytime I hear the Republicans cry about Obama's lack of experience. Especially when I look at at Bush's background, which has been a series of business failures, multiple arrests, desertion from the military and I could go on, but you get the idea.

For more of the same, vote McCain! "

" Comrade Potter,

I think it is terrible that the wealth of GHB, and now President GWB, comes out of greedy via his capitalist, industrialist great-grandfather, Samuel Prescott Bush, a man that made his fortune through manufacturing, during the low taxation, 2nd industrial revolution in America, where the wealth now of the US was formed. We all know GWB was not as good a business man as his ancestor, let alone a good oil man. (How did he and Cheney make such good contracts with the Arabs?). It is ashame that this man SPB, through hard work of his own, and not through the combined efforts of the proletariat became wealthy. The state should have taxed him 150%. It's not like the Bush wealth comes from booze smuggling or cronyism, the later the only appropriate way a party member should acquire wealth, and like our comrades in the Illinois state Duma. They should have made money through entertainment too, like our movie star comrades Oprah, Clooney, Sarandon, Penn, Sheen, Roberts, Mellencamp, Pitt, Streisand, Jolie, Glover, Franken, Baldwin and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on. With these comrades' billions in wealth they have always (LOL) given...ah...well...ah...well some (small) percentage of their wealth to the less fortunate. Unlike those capitalist pigs like Carnegie, Gates or Buffet who gave it, or are giving it, away. We should tax these capitalists 150%, before they give it away, to support the state and the proletariat.

Yes, using Bin Laden against our socialist brothers from the USSR in Afghanistan was very bad, along with providing those construction contracts prior to 9/11.

Finally, Bush's legacy will be terrible. The U.S. has only gone now 6 years, 8 months, 28 days (total of 2462 days) without terrorist attacks on America. Terrorist world wide has dropped to virtually zero to under Bush. This an obvious suppression of our communist brothers in arms!

Be joyful that Bush's record will pale in comparison to Comrade Jimmy Carter's dealing with the Iranian terrorists (444 days in captivity, Russia in Afghanistan, and America a joke to the rest of the world). And there were not more than only a few terrorist attacks (actually 74, see Dept of Justice, FBI stats) in the eight years under our fearless leader Comrade Clinton. Yes, yes, we will be safer when comrade Obama talks sense into terrorists and terror-supporting states.

Obama - revolution we can believe...ah...I mean...ah... change we can believe in! "

" NeoCon Academician wrote on Jun 8, 2008 11:35 PM:""Terrorist world wide has dropped to virtually zero to under Bush. ""

statements such as above are why you can't be taken seriously. "

" In fact, terrorism worldwide has vastly increased since Bush launched his unjustified, immoral invasion of Iraq. The administrations own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated in April 2006, stated that "the Iraq War has become the cause celebre for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives." "

" Neocon Academician - I didn't think we allowed academics to be Republicans........ "

" The Question wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:00 AM:

" The administrations own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated in April 2006, stated that "the Iraq War has become the cause celebre for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives."

Nice....two-year old data. Hasn't moveon.org been updating their propaganda?

You're right that the jihadists are celebrating, because so many of them have gotten to see Allah and their 69 virgins so much sooner than expected. It's a shame that they haven't lived long enough to come over here and blow up a school. Don't worry, I'm sure Obama will withdrawl the troops immediately so they can get back to concentrating on America again. "

" Beaches wrote on Jun 9, 2008 3:28 PM:
" Neocon Academician - I didn't think we allowed academics to be Republicans........ """

*terrorist fist bump* "

" WASHINGTON - After 60 years of inattention and even denial
by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in
The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that
Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush,
served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative
for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926
until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush
and his "enemy national" partners.

The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according
to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury, tried to
conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz
Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s,
personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion
of democratic principle and German law."

Hey Neo, you should change your name to academagician. After experiencing you magically forgetting where the Bush millions first came from and then accusing any money that democrats have made is somewhat unearned, you truely are a master of the art. "

" Well, I guess I have to follow Becky with some more non-relevant history that ties a liberal iconic family to Hitler as well. This is from Joseph Kennedy and the Jews
By Edward Renehan, Jr.


"As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and [Viscountess Nancy Witcher Langhorne] Astor looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world problems" (Nancy's phrase). No member of the so-called "Cliveden Set" (the informal cabal of appeasers who met frequently at Nancy Astor's palatial home) seemed much concerned with the dilemma faced by Jews under the Reich. Astor wrote Kennedy that Hitler would have to do more than just "give a rough time" to "the killers of Christ" before she'd be in favor of launching "Armageddon to save them. The wheel of history swings round as the Lord would have it. Who are we to stand in the way of the future?" Kennedy replied that he expected the "Jew media" in the United States to become a problem, that "Jewish pundits in New York and Los Angeles" were already making noises contrived to "set a match to the fuse of the world."

During May of 1938, Kennedy engaged in extensive discussions with the new German Ambassador to the Court of St. James's, Herbert von Dirksen. In the midst of these conversations (held without approval from the U.S. State Department), Kennedy advised von Dirksen that President Roosevelt was the victim of "Jewish influence" and was poorly informed as to the philosophy, ambitions and ideals of Hitler's regime. (The Nazi ambassador subsequently told his bosses that Kennedy was "Germany's best friend" in London.)"

In other words....who cares? "

" I'm sorry, Ed. What's the last name of the fascist president in the White House? Is it Kennedy? "

" It's pretty obvious that old Joe Kennedy was quite a character and a lot of his businesses were just a shade above being illegal, but that does not negate the fact that Bush's grandfather was in bed with the Nazi, business wise.

Until the true story was recently confirmed through the declassification of government records, the Bush's adamantly denied that Prescott did business with the Nazis. The denial and consequent disclosure of the records is what makes this story relevant. On this very site, not long age, another poster was ridiculed for pointing out what is now public information.

It is good to see that people like ed miller aren't still denying the truth to the story, and the best they can come up with are stale stories about Joe Kennedy.

ed's lame argument sort of reminds me of a school kids taunts like, yeah but your sisters ugly. "

" FYI- Apparently many here have formed an opinion that George Bush schemed every member of congress to get them to vote for war. First of all one man CANNOT do such a thing and really do you think he has the mentality to do such a thing. haha. Many of you go by the news media for your information. I recently watched a documentary given by scholars who study terrorisism in regards to this whole mess. A report was given to all members of congress to read so that they could make their own decision about whether to go to war. Attached to this report was a summary which most of the members of congress chose to read instead of the report and they formed their opinions based on the SUMMARY. The members who voted against it read the report like Obama. Now the only ones to blame for going to war is our members of congress who took the easy road instead of doing their job. Since it hasn't gone very well the only thing to do is blame George and of course the media jumped on that band wagon. Makes a better story huh! Another point is that the majority of this country wanted someone to pay for what had happened and this government was pressured by the people to seek out and destroy those responsible. Well guess what they did! Originally it was believed the Osama bin Laden was the responsible party when in reality he wasn't. Another nut case by the name of Alzaquari is the one who brought those towers down. He self-associated himself with Al-Queda and hence Bin Laden was blamed because he is their leader. Of course he was happy about it all till Alzaquari refused to follow his orders afterwards. So it is believed that Al Queda unofficially handed over Alzaquari to the U.S. because he is the one who started the bombings in Iraq which have killed so many innocent people and that is not what Al Queda wanted. They wanted to kill only Americans. So in the process we went after Alzaquari and got him but standing in our way was Saddam and since he provided a safe haven for this nut he got taken out too. He was just a bonus nut. "

" Wow - I find it fascinating that we are so willing to judge an individual on their ancestors decisions and opinions. I have a grandfather who wanted to return to Germany early in the war because he believed that Hitler was bring Germany back to their glory days - does that make ME a Nazi sympathizer or follower? I have relatives who have broken the law and been in jail - does that make ME a lawbreaker. Judge people on their decisions and actions - that is what is relevant. "

" You are absolutely right about the Nazi thing, Beaches. The only reason I make a deal abut it is that the Bush family and those on this site who support them, have always adamantly denied the truth about Bushes Grandfathers connection to the German Nazis.

I don't know the status of the case, but I read some time back that some Holocaust survivors are suing the Bush family for reparations for the fact that some of Bush's business interests used forced slave labor to operate.

So I guess in some ways that makes this a newsworthy item to discuss. You do have to admit that it is rather interesting that the Bush family fortune was probably started at least in part from the Nazi regime in Germany. "

" Kennedy is just as relevant as Bush since one of the most powerful senators is a Kennedy and his granddaughter is helping to chose a VP candidate. I made the post because, as Beaches said, it is irrelevant about whose grandfather did what, and exactly what do Nazi's have to do with anything today? "

" Attempting to equate the power of one lone senator to that of the president seems rather foolish. "

" It's relevant because Bush's grandfather was a fascist, Bush's father is a fascist and George W. Bush, the president of the United States, is a fascist. Notice any pattern, Ed? "

" Ok, I'm wrong again. The Kennedy's have no political power. The Bush's are all closet goose-steppers. They probably torture kittens too. The worst thing is I heard the President has been flying Air Force One to Villa Pizza for lunch at taxpayer expense. "

" And to think old ed miller was accusing me of hogging this site just a day or so ago. I think old ed has developed a case of diarrhea of the fingers tonight. LOL! Tommy seems to have backed off but eddie is taking up the slack. "

" Neocon said "It's not like the Bush wealth comes from booze smuggling or cronyism", hence I showed where the Bush wealth came from. Nuff said. "

" No, Becky, the Bushes didn't get their money from booze. They acquired it, right down the line, by betraying American public trusts to private interests for money. You might call that the Bush family business. "