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Monday, June 2, 2008 11:16 PM CDT
COLUMN: Righter, Rose, Flider must be 'rebuked' for opposing pay hike and demanding state budget be balanced



Members of the Illinois General Assembly wear rags, stand in soup lines, drive old jalopies — even hunt with tin cups on street corners. Gov. Rod Blagojevich has it a little better; he shuttles between Springfield and Chicago in a World War I plane and secretly works in a McDonald’s restaurant.

I’m tired of newspaper readers constantly complaining about the fact Blagojevich and the poor devils in the legislature don’t get anything done. That’s not true. Why don’t you all shut up, fill your luxury cars and trucks, stuff your bellies at the finest restaurants, crank up those air conditioners and hold benefits to help Ameren pay its bills?

The fine folks in Springfield tossed together a $59-billion budget shortly before running for the exits. You may think they should have done something realistic — like tackling the state’s huge deficit head-on. That would have been irresponsible.

The venerated Springfield lawmakers and governor (who uses a map to find the way to his office) didn’t want to leave. They wanted to do a budget-busting budget, but a Force 5 tornado was heading right for the General Assembly.

According to one of my inside sources, legislators were last seen screaming in terror as they poured into the streets. Many of them barefoot because they cannot afford Chinese-manufactured shoes.

Old ladies crumbled beneath the onslaught, many dogs were trampled. Some cats lost a life or two. My source said his heart went out to the lawmakers. Where, he wondered, would they go?

Some good news came out of the legislature. The state may delay payment of Medicaid bills, which means some doctors will probably quit seeing Medicaid patients. And that’s a good thing. The poor have it too good.

Nothing like children going without medical treatment. It toughens them. The little moochers need to find jobs. If our lawmakers and Blagojevich really wanted to help them out, they’d come up with the money to send the tykes to sweat factories in third-world countries to work 12-hour days, seven days a week for pennies.

Don’t feel sorry for doctors. Occasionally, people with zits sue them. Physicians enjoy watching their malpractice insurance soar in the wake of multi-million dollar settlements, but that doesn’t compare to the warm, fuzzy feeling they get when they have to slam the door on the poor.

Doctors can feed their families; they get to wear white coats. Some of them can even afford ties.

Fortunately, the tornado was responsible for inaction on legislation to fund construction of new roads, bridges and schools. If we’re lucky, the state won’t have enough to repair existing roads. We don’t really need them anyway.

Mechanics and body shops need the work. Nothing like watching a car owner pull into the shop. You should be thrilled watching the vehicle you paid thousands for being reduced to a pile of junk in a few short years.

With gasoline hovering around $4 a gallon, motorists should be calling oil company executives (who barely make enough to buy their daily bread) to congratulate them for Big Oil’s record profits.

The $59-billion behemoth, red-ink spilling, poverty-inducing Illinois state budget is a credit to our legislators. They’ve worked diligently for months to swamp government and empty constituents’ wallets.

You are probably unaware legislators don’t vote to raise their own salaries. An independent board does the job for them.

The board was created by the General Assembly after tight-fisted taxpayers began raising hell every time legislator voted for a pay raise.

If lawmakers don’t spurn the board’s decision, they have no choice but to take the extra money.

Really.

The Force 5 tornado denied lawmakers such an unselfish act — for the time.

Unrejected, their annual salary would increase from $65,353 to a mere $72,985. The boost is roughly 10 percent.

In this time of economic recession with gas, utility, and food prices soaring, would you begrudge the governor and hard-working legislators such a tiny increment? Are your hearts so hardened to the economic plight of the men and women who do their best to bankrupt the state?

How can taxpayers be so callous and cynical? Who among you would swap jobs with your legislator? Could you possibly afford to serve the people? Could you afford to give up your fine benefits in order to receive theirs?

And why should we reasonably expect state government to conduct business in a fiscally sound manner? Balancing the budget is no trifle. It requires time and the willingness to cut pork. It requires the guts to stand up against deficit spending.

These people cannot do it. And we should be applauding their failure instead of criticizing them. Why should we expect legislators and the governor to do what every household must do?

You ungrateful wretches!

Editor’s note: Republicans Sen. Dale Righter and Rep. Chapin Rose, and Democratic Rep. Bob Flider should be harshly rebuked for opposing a pay hike and demanding a balanced state budget

We didn’t elect them to act responsibly.


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Early Bird wrote on Jun 3, 2008 5:24 AM:

" The way the rules are set up, all of the mentioned politicos will get the raise, despite their voting against it, Harry. They can write their sanctimonious letters to the editor about how they opposed it, but I'm sure they will manage to get it. Anyone wanna bet on it?

No Harry, some of us are well aware of how raises come about.

We don't need your comments about how we are unaware of how state government works. That is the kind of condescending comment I have come to expect from you.

They set that automatic raise mechanism in for a reason. How wonderful for them to get a 10% raise when so many people are suffering with the high cost of gasoline and food.

I did get a chuckle from your little synchophantic comment that you closed your inane, as usual, editorial with.

I have never understood why small town city editors such as yourself feel the need to butter up our local politicians.

Perhaps you could let us know the reason for that sometime, Harry. "

Beaches wrote on Jun 3, 2008 8:36 AM:

" If I consistently missed my deadlines I wouldn't get a double digit raise. This is ridiculous. "

Tom Andres wrote on Jun 3, 2008 3:10 PM:

" Early Bird cups his hands around his mouth in megaphone style and from behind his curtain, and poised to run away, shouts out to Harry Reynolds: "I have never understood why small town city editors such as yourself feel the need to butter up our local politicians." // You may not agree with Harry, EB, but at least he uses his real name when he expresses honest debate. // Now to the real issue, the budget. End consumers pay all taxes. A $59-billion budget means that the average household in Illinois will pay a tax bill of $12,500 if this budget gets the nod. We have a very long way to go before an acceptable budget number is reached in our fine state. In the meantime, hold onto your hat - and your wallet. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 3, 2008 7:48 PM:

" I'm surprised Tom could tear himself away from the Fixed news channel long enough to post more of his manure infested blathering nonsense. I see you're still pushing that Obama's a Muslim lie, Tommy? "

Tom Andres wrote on Jun 3, 2008 8:52 PM:

" Harry Potter, I admit I do watch FNC - probably too much. Ask my wife who, by the way, seems addicted to Food Network. Harry, I did not say anything about Barack Obama being a Muslim, or about Barack Obama not being a Muslim. Check your extensive files of all my posts and you will not find any mention by me of Barack Obama's religion. I could not care less what his religion is - I never have. LOL. Another thing your mother used to say about you: Sometimes, because Harry tries to be a know-it-all and gets his nose into everyone else's business, he gets confused after a while. Kind of like that "Can't see the forest for the trees" thing. "

Mama says wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:46 AM:

" AND lets not forget they use catalogs or newspaper for tp in bathroom to save also. "

Early Bird wrote on Jun 4, 2008 4:58 AM:

" Tom, if you didn't go around putting your foot in your mouth all the time, there would not be a need for backpedalling.

And you really need to stop whining about screen names.

As has been pointed out to you on numerous times, using a real name does not give someones posts more credibility. You are the perfect example of that. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 4, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Nice try, Tom, but I believe most of the regulars know that it is you who bragged about your extensive files on your fellow posters.

Having passed away a number of years ago, I would appreciate if you would keep my mother out of your diatribes. That's a little crass, even for someone with your low standards. "

Tom Andres wrote on Jun 4, 2008 8:52 AM:

" EB, take a load off your mind. Stand up. // As to your abuse of screen names, you and TQ and HP are shining examples of how to make personal attacks while completely avoiding the issues. For example, in your 5:24 am post yesterday (You know, LOL, before you started signing in as TQ and HP), you didn't write one word about the state budget. Instead, you devoted your whole post to criticizing Harry Reynolds. Your criticism did not add value to the budget discussion. You call Mr Reynolds to account for his words, but because you are anonymous, you are not accountable for your own words. Thats the problem with screen names. I agree with you, that if you put forth positive and meaningful thought in your posts, your true identity is less important but you seem incapable of doing that. Your posts are seldom relevant to the discussion at hand because they are typically filled with unfounded personal attacks. "

longtimegone wrote on Jun 4, 2008 10:41 AM:

" It,s time to get rid of our elected thieves.On the other hand the next batch won.t be any better. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 4, 2008 12:09 PM:

" So what you're saying is that EB, The Question and I are the same person, huh? Tom, you might actually be dumber that I thought.

Your calling EB out for negativity is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. "

gringa wrote on Jun 4, 2008 12:44 PM:

" Well, whaddayaknow, I knew there was something special about Harry Potter. He speaks from the grave, and tells us: "Having passed away a number of years ago, I ..." WHAT?? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:42 PM:

" That's real classy, gringa. Making a joke out of some one's mother passing away is really showing how little character you have. "

61938 wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:39 PM:

" Making a joke out of some one's mother passing away is really showing how little character you have. "

Now there is a perfect example of the pot(ter) calling the kettle black. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:56 PM:

" You have made your feelings toward me pretty obvious 61938, and I couldn't care less, however, you will not ever find me making jokes over any posters who have had a death in their family. If you condone that, I feel sorry for you, as you must be a pretty pathetic person. I have noticed that you seem to be able to dish it out but cry foul when your feathers are ruffled. When are you going to actually add something of value to this site? How about your opinions on anything? Can you only insult those you disagree with? Is that the best you can do? What a pathetic weasel you must be! "

gringa wrote on Jun 4, 2008 5:12 PM:

" Harry Potter, so much of what you say on here is unbelievable. Give me a reason anyone should believe you're telling the truth. Welcome to the Anonymous Posters Club where part of the dues is that anecdotal posts are worthless. Depending on how well they are presented, good ideas may have value on here, but anonymous anecdotes are met with yawns. Unfortunately, you saying that your mother is dead cannot be verified because you are, guess what?, anonymous. How you "feel", one way or the other about that, is anecdotal and a waste of time. If I tell you that my dad died, you have no way of verifying that. I could say he is alive and well and you would have no way of knowing which is true. Either of us saying a parent has passed away has the same level of meaning to the reader as the death of a character in a novel. Sorry to be so blunt, but thats the reality of these threads. If it bothers you that your words are meaningless, write more about ideas and solutions, not so much about the other stuff. Above all, lighten up. "

ed miller wrote on Jun 4, 2008 9:26 PM:

" Get over it HP, no one is making fun of your sainted mother. Gringa was making fun of your misplaced modifier grammatical mistake. "

lefty wrote on Jun 4, 2008 10:22 PM:

" Hahahaha... GRINGA told someone to lighten up! This is the guy who could turn a lump of coal to a diamond by inserting it into his corn hole. "

tammer65 wrote on Jun 4, 2008 10:23 PM:

" Isn't it ironic that gringa would criticize another poster for 1) using an anonymous screen name -- unless of course he/she/it really was given the name gringa at birth and is some sort of one-name wonder, along the lines of Cher, and 2) failing to "lighten up," especially considering that gringa flies off the handle on a variety of subjects, on a fairly regular basis.

Ed Miller, actually, the grammatical error in question is called a dangling modifier, not a misplaced one. If you're going to nit-pick and pose as a grammar expert, you should use the proper terminology.

Don't let them get to you, HP! And I agree that making light of anyone's death, even in online forums like this where we often can't be certain of the facts, is in poor taste -- why not err on the side of human decency? Gringa's track record includes attacking real-life people with terminal brain cancer, BTW, so the excuse that he/she (gringa) didn't believe HP's mother really died just doesn't ring true. "

lefty wrote on Jun 5, 2008 12:00 AM:

" Call it a hunch, but maybe HARRY POTTER is referring to his mother... as in the one killed by Voldemort...

I love the clowns on here, especially GRINGA who is the ultimate moral relativist. The best line ever by GRINGA? I think it has to do with GRINGA accusing others of making slanderous comments while hiding behind anonymity.

Ill toss out another hunch... GRINGA MIGHT be an anonymous screen name... MIGHT! "

gringa wrote on Jun 5, 2008 12:12 AM:

" Hey, lefty, splain that part about the coal to a diamond. And what the heck is a corn hole? Maybe you should lighten up too, lefty. "

Early Bird wrote on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 AM:

" Look out, the grammar cops are back.

Are the spelling cops far behind?

I will say this for Tom Andres, at least he did stop picking at people for spelling and grammar errors.

Maybe there is hope for him after all.

Nah.....doubt it... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 5, 2008 7:12 AM:

" Hi ya Tammer. Don't worry I have pretty thick skin, and the likes of someone like gringa certainly isn't going to get to me. As was pointed out last night by lefty, he is probably the biggest hypocrite on here and is not someone anyone should actually take seriously.

I think that, like Tom Andres he is pretty full of himself, but I doubt that many on here are as impressed with him as he is with himself.

It's probably pretty close to the time for him to disappear and later reappear under a different name. That has been his style for months now.

The funny part is that he thinks
the regulars on here are fooled by that little act.

My favorite posts from him are the ones when he is obviously tanked up. Those are pretty interesting.

I don't recall which name he was using when he went after Ted Kennedy, but I suspect booze was involved. "

gringa wrote on Jun 5, 2008 7:49 AM:

" lefty, if you read my post again, you will see that I said to HP: "Welcome to the Anonymous Posters Club ..." When I welcomed HP to the Club, doesn't that infer that I'm IN that same Club? Give me a break. ... By the way, if you're done with the personal stuff, what are your ideas and solutions for the state budget - the original topic of the thread? I sense a high level of frustration in you with our Dem-controlled state. Am I correct? LOL! I certainly never was a Ryan fan, but he was a decent CEO when it came time for putting a budget together. "

lefty wrote on Jun 5, 2008 8:15 AM:

" GRINGA, I am nothing if not consistent. It must kill ya. Remember, you were the one who claimed he was leaving these boards forever because he couldn't take the pseudo-heat he generated?

Anyway GRINGA,it doesnt get past the fact that you make accusations of others for the same childish stuff you do. "

gringa wrote on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 PM:

" This is hilarious. It's as if you folks on the left are incapable of comprehending new data. You just keep spouting your vitriol as if no one ever corrected your past errors in thinking. I would love to be the fly on the wall if any of you still have children at home. Here's the scenario. "WHAT?? What do you mean, you're PREGNANT!?" ... "D-a-a-a-d-y, how could you be surprised? Jimmy and I have been shacking up right under your nose now for over two years! You and Mom knew that!! Don't you remember giving me the condoms for my 16th birthday? Remember that time you came home from the Starbucks run and caught us in your bed??" ... "Well, yeah, but that's no excuse for getting pregnant! Oh, wait a minute, I think I'm getting your message now. Hang on, let me think about this. Whatever happened to that nice girlfriend you thought you loved in Middle School?" ... "D-a-a-a-d-y, stop it! Don't you remember her special operation? Now she's Jimmy! Do you feel better about this now?" // Yeah, I know, Im going to catch hxll from EB for my attempt at humor. But, hey, Im laughing. Isnt that all thats important? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM:

" What, is gringa actually Tom Andres? "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 5, 2008 3:21 PM:

" Actually gringa, you're posts make more sense when you're sober. "

gringa wrote on Jun 5, 2008 3:22 PM:

" Harry Potter says: "What, is gringa actually Tom Andres?" ... No, C-e-e-e-sco, gringa is only gringa, am-e-e-e-e-g-a! Pero Senor Andreas y yo comparto a veces las mismas vistas polticas. "

tammer65 wrote on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM:

" Now gringa, you know you're not supposed to go off your medications. "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 5, 2008 6:11 PM:

" I still say it sounds more like booze then any sot of medication, tammer.

At least if it is he has an excuse, so what's the excuse of the slimy insurance salesman that stinks up this site on a daily basis with his Fixed news propaganda? LOL! "

ed miller wrote on Jun 5, 2008 6:29 PM:

" tammer, I was not being the grammer cop. I was merely pointing out that the post was making fun of the incorrect grammer and not the deceased mother. I am not going to argue the point, but I was taught that a dangling modifier is a type of misplaced modifier. Maybe we are both correct. "

tammer65 wrote on Jun 5, 2008 8:27 PM:

" Ed, they're in the same general category of error, but are 2 separate types. Misplaced is just put in the wrong spot in the sentence, but a dangling modifier lacks a clear subject referent. Could explain more fully but it would take up too much space, esp. for a point unrelated to the thread. I wouldn't have brought up the issue at all if you hadn't attacked another poster's grammar, with an incorrect correction at that! "

lefty wrote on Jun 5, 2008 10:56 PM:

" I have a question... why is GRINGA talking about his d-a-d-d-y-s condoms?

So bizarre.

Now it's time for Gringa to pout about left-wing conspiracies, boo hoo! "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 6, 2008 7:05 AM:

" I don't know, lefty, but it must be relevant to the discussion, or else Andres would be taking him to task.

Wait a minute, Harry NEVER takes his buddy gringa to task for any of his nonrelevant blathering tirades on here, like he did EB yesterday...hmmmm...do you think that maybe old Tommy boy and ginga are the....nah...gringa cleared that one up, and we all know the he is a beacon of truth... lol... "

Harry Potter wrote on Jun 6, 2008 9:35 AM:

" Sorry Tommy, that should have read: Tommy never takes his....

I wouldn't want to give anyone else, let alone myself, credit for your brilliant posts. LOL!

Now I suppose that error proves that I'm really EB or TQ, right?

If you keep up that paranoid thinking, you're going to think I'm really you, Tom. "

Chad(USAF) wrote on Jun 6, 2008 5:39 PM:

" Lots of mean-spirited comments in this thread folks... whatever happened to "do unto others"? We can disagree and that's a good thing, but the personal attacks on both sides are getting ridiculous. "

 


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