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Friday, May 2, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
OUR VIEW: Empty lot at least costs less than a park



The Coles County Board will decide later this month, at its May 13 session, whether to join with the Charleston City Council and develop a small park near the courthouse square.

The obvious question is: Should they, or shouldn’t they? An old saying may provide the answer: It’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.

City leaders already gave a green light to an intergovernmental agreement with the county to create a park at the northwest corner of the courthouse square. That site, at Madison Avenue and Sixth Street, once hosted a bank building which the county bought in 2000 from Bank of America at a price of $426,000.

After closing the building, county officials’ plans to replace it with a courthouse annex were submarined by budget shorfalls, and the structure was demolished in 2005 in part with funding help from donations.

Now, part of the lot is used for parking. The rest remains empty.

Officials estimate the cost of creating the park will be $30,000, with the county contributing $10,000: half now and half in the next fiscal year. The proposal calls for Coles County and the city of Charleston to then split maintenance costs for the park, once it is completed.

On one hand, it’s nice that local officials are trying to do something positive with an empty piece of property in such a high-traffic area. A small park at the square could be a lunchtime destination for workers in the area. It also could be useful during public events such as Christmas in the Heart of Charleston.

On the other hand, however, it seems difficult to justify a quaint little green space that cost, essentially, $456,000.

It is disappointing to see a local governmental body spend so much money on what turns out to be an empty lot of land. To be fair, county board members likely also are frustrated by the turn of events that left them unable to utilize the land as they originally envisioned. A small park is one way to salvage this venture.

Yet with a stalled economy and tight budgets from the statehouse to the county courthouse to city hall to the kitchen table, spending any unnecessary funds is difficult to justify. The city of Charleston and the county, for example, which partner for recycling efforts in the city, just this week cut back recycling bin hours. But each will both spend funds initially and also incur more expenses — even if they are modest — by adding maintenance of this park to their to-do list.

This proposal has its good points, including adding eye appeal to the square in place of the empty lot. Also, green space is harder and harder to come by within city limits, and to preserve it and spruce it up is a reasonable goal. But surely this money could be better spent elsewhere.

Turning this site into a park may be making lemonade out of lemons, but at this price tag, in these economic times, it will take a lot of added sugar to remove the tart taste.

JG/T-C Editorial Board


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usmcvet wrote on May 3, 2008 7:26 AM:

" The park is a bad idea.All that would end up being is a place for the bar patrons to smoke and the college kids to tear things up.It is awful funny that the recycling is being cut back but we have money for a park ? I personally think that the members on the county board that made the poor decision to buy this property for $ 426,000 should have to pay for the park,if that is what is gonna be done with the property.

When are some of these county board members gonna have to answer for their terrible decisions ? Probably never.

Like I said before, maybe Reggie would be interested in building another apartment complex. The city council seems to think we need more anyway. Reggie would be more than happy to buy that property at a fair price. At least that way the county board could recoup some of the taxpayers money they spent on a very poor decision. Instead of putting more money into a LOUSY idea.

City council and county board I think it's time to start making some better decisions concerning spending on BAD ideas. "

Early Bird wrote on May 3, 2008 7:39 AM:

" Just think if they do make a park out of it, it will probably be the most expensive park in the state, size wise. Close to half a million dollar in all. Wonder how much that come to per square foot? Perhaps they should considering selling it, we know it's worth at least 426 thousand dollars, right? LOL "

Harry Potter wrote on May 3, 2008 3:52 PM:

" What, no mention of Todd Reardon's brilliant idea of turning this corner into a garden patch to feed the prisoners at the county jail? I think the local paper missed a scoop on that one. LOL "

Dally wrote on May 3, 2008 9:09 PM:

" Have any names been chosen for the park yet? I would just leave it the way it is and call it Yow Park! "

medic57 wrote on May 4, 2008 8:02 AM:

" Yow Park! :):):) "

Rotty wrote on May 4, 2008 8:53 AM:

" Nice touch, Dally.
Sounds good to me. "

85CHSGrad wrote on May 4, 2008 9:43 AM:

" $426,000... YOW! "

Harry Potter wrote on May 4, 2008 1:17 PM:

" Better yet, how about Todd's folly? "

usmcvet wrote on May 4, 2008 1:19 PM:

" Sounds like a good idea Dally.Either Yow park or just "The lousy decision county board park". "

medic57 wrote on May 4, 2008 11:34 PM:

" How about a parking lot? Or here's a novel idea, a county run bookstore. "

krusayda wrote on May 5, 2008 10:58 AM:

" How about setting up a croquet field and having tournaments each 3rd Tuesday between May 5 and October 17 at 3:18 in the afternoon! "

Interested Observer wrote on May 6, 2008 10:03 AM:

" Parks, a/k/a 'green spaces', are an asset to any community-- just ask any business, etc., weighing whether or not to locate in a given community. While I believe that the county board made a very poor decision initially when it purchased the old bank building, there is no good reason to maintain a weed-strewn vacant lot within eyesight of the courthouse. A nice park along the proposed lines laid out by the City of Charleston would be a huge improvement. "

Charlie Watts wrote on May 6, 2008 2:06 PM:

" The more I think about this, my vote is to scrap the park idea and let's build a White Castle on the site. If we could find someone named Snappy to run it I think we would have the newest hot spot in Charleston. "

Harry Potter wrote on May 6, 2008 4:46 PM:

" Now that's the first thing said on this thread that makes a lick of sense, thanks, Charlie. "

Rotty wrote on May 6, 2008 7:26 PM:

" I agree.
Good post, Charlie!
White Castles, Yum! "

gringa wrote on May 7, 2008 11:19 AM:

" Ha, speaking of Snappy's (and grease), does anyone remember Nick's Pizza out on 130 back in the 60's? Before Pagliai, Pizza Hut, Little Caesars, Monicals, Jerrys, Papa Johns, Dominos, Chubbys, Big Tonys, Angies, there was just Nick's. Ah, those were the days. 4-o-clock club at Roc's, then finish the night off at Nick's. And for all the old Snappy's and Nick's fans, now there's Nexium. "

Charlie Watts wrote on May 7, 2008 4:31 PM:

" It's good to see someone got my Snappy's comment. I can't say I remember Nick's, it must have been before my time. I do remember ther was a piaaz place on 130 north of the tracks on the east side of the road but I can't remember what it was called. As for me it was either Pagliai's or Pizza Joe's. "

Harry Potter wrote on May 9, 2008 7:43 AM:

" Your Snappy comments seemed to have influenced Harry's column today, Charlie.
"

Charlie Watts wrote on May 9, 2008 8:26 AM:

" It makes me think that Harry actually might be reading the stuff we put on here. I kind of expected him to finish with "and then I washed it all down with a rootbeer float from Covalts". "

gringa wrote on May 9, 2008 4:33 PM:

" Charlie, I didn't think anything was 'before my time' where you're concerned - except maybe dirt. Nick's Pizza was just a shack (literally), with a small dining room in front (maybe four tables), a very small kitchen in back (mostly oven), and an always sweaty Nick as your owner/waiter/chief cook and bottle washer - but his pizzas were the greatest! I think he closed down after Pagliai's opened. Got a question for you, though. Where was Pizza Joe's? I don't remember that one, unless it was the one down by Sporty's. "

Harry Potter wrote on May 9, 2008 6:13 PM:

" Kind of cheesy of Harry, not to give you any credit, Charlie. LOL.. Kind of makes you wonder if old Harry is gleaning these boards for more ideas. "

Billie Brant wrote on May 10, 2008 7:08 AM:

" gringa, The original Pizza Joe's was on Jackson St about a half a block off of the square on the south side of the street. I'm not sure which building it was in now, but it was in one of them. He moved to the Sporty's location later. I don't remember Nick's. His place must have come in after I moved to Wisconsin in 1961.

Snappy's! Yes! The grease made them taste great! Yum! I liked the chili too, but the crackers were always stale. Oh Well! Ya can't have everything! LOL! "

Harry Potter wrote on May 10, 2008 5:26 PM:

" I believe the pizza place you're talking about was out on 18th street, across from what is now a car wash. If it's the one I'm think about, it was ran by a guy named Jerry Nikitas. This would have been about 1964 thru about 1966, or so, On an additional note the same owner moved to Springfield and opened up a restaurant in Springfield. It was a very popular eatery, and had another link to Charleston. This was where a former state senator, who shall remain anonymous was arrested for harassing a waitress. In fact I believe she eventually had to get a restraining order against to keep that old hound dog at bay. And to think that old reprobate gets a state check every month, even though his most notable achievement was getting half his relatives on the state payroll. LOL! And just in case my buddy Tom Andres reads this, he was a Republican. "

what? wrote on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM:

" A few years either side of 1970 their was a little diner on 316, across from the fairgrounds, very good home cooking. If memory serves, dinner was $1.25. "

Charlie Watts wrote on May 11, 2008 7:41 AM:

" If I remember the sequence correctly, Joe's was part of the Sporty's building until it burned down sometime in the 60's, I don't remember if he was located somewhere else before then. Next he opened half a block east of the square on the south side of Jackson next door to the Roundavous tavern (anyone remember Wolfy?). Some years later he sold his name, recipes, and business to Jerry Myerscough and went to Casey for a while but eventually came back to Charleston and opened under Adduccis pizza. He had a place over by the Will Rogers for a while and I think eventually moved back to Jackson. The last part if kind of sketchy but is as close as I remember. "

Charlie Watts wrote on May 12, 2008 8:19 AM:

" HP, the name Jerry Nikitas is real familiar to me but I can't remember exactly why. I know I either know about him from businesses he had or possibly from other people I came in contact with. You wouldn't know any additional dealings he had in the area would you? "

Harry Potter wrote on May 13, 2008 7:57 AM:

" Here's the deal, as I remember it, Charlie. Nikitis (sp ?) owned a pizza place on 18th in Charleston. Later he bought the bar in Ashmore (the one to the east) and eventually opened up a bar in Mattoon and called it the Rubaiyat, which mysteriously burned down, and eventually he went to springfield and opened up high line restaurant. "

 


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