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Friday, March 21, 2008 3:34 PM CDT
COLUMN: Obama failed to answer why he wasn't aware of anti-US, racist sermons



Barack Obama’s speech Tuesday seeking to douse the firestorm erupting from his minister’s racial and anti-American sermons was eloquent, but vacant.

Rather than address the central question as to why he didn’t object a whole lot sooner to the ranting of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama called for Americans to break the “racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years.”

Obama had the opportunity to help do just that during the course of the 20 years he has been a member of the huge Trinity United Church of Christ of Chicago.

But, Obama didn’t. Not until last week when the videotapes exposing Wright’s diatribes stunned the nation.

And only in recent days did Obama drop the reverend from a group of campaign spiritual advisors.

Wright presided over Obama’s wedding ceremony, baptized his children and preached to him for those two decades. Obama has called Wright his friend and mentor. Wright inspired the title of Obama’s book, “The Audacity of Hope.”

Obama said he joined the church because he was impressed by the pastor’s dedication to building the black community and his message of hope.

In defending/condemning Wright’s inflammatory sermons, Obama pointed out many blacks are still angry over injustices in America. He ventured the rationalization whites shouldn’t be surprised if that anger erupts in sermons.

“The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of the Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday mornings,” Obama observed.

Does this excuse Obama’s failing to reject the pastor’s attacks long before the videotapes were played on TV news networks? It may be a “truism” that Sunday is the most segregated hour.

So what? Is Obama claiming special dispensation for tolerating a racist, a mentor who damns America and whites? How can Obama do this on the heels of taking Hilary Clinton to task for not immediately distancing herself from a racial comment made by former Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro?

Obama cannot justify his his end run around the pastor’s sermons with a “truism.”

This has little to do with Wright, who has been described as a theologian of the highest order, a man of intellect and deliberation.

This is the same man who only a few months ago delivered a sermon condemning “g-damn” America. The pastor has frequently attacked whites. In his December ramble, Wright castigated Hilary Clinton. She and husband, former President Bill Clinton, have long championed black causes.

On the heels of 9/11, Wright blamed the United States, saying the chickens had come home to roost. He has also claimed the U.S. knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked.

Wright has been engaging in the sort of rhetoric that does nothing to help break the “racial stalemate” but much to promote it.

This is not the voice or intellect of the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. This is not what Obama should have tolerated as a member of Wright’s church.

Obama’s assertions he was not in attendance at the time the videotapes were recorded may be true. And yet, it strains credibility that Obama was not present, over the course of 20 years’ membership, to hear Wright’s venom.

Even if Obama had been absent from all of the pastor’s tirades, still, he had to have been aware of them.

Let’s give Obama the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps, Wright prepared two sermons for each of his services — one for Obama and the other if Obama didn’t show up.

There is also the possibility Obama attended 20 years and — defying the odds — was absent from the pew on those occasions when Wright bannered bigotry, blatant racism and hatred of America — particularly white America.

In his speech Tuesday, Obama waved the race flag, but he did it much more subtly than Wright. Obama did it with the intent to divert the question from why he didn’t disassociate himself from Wright much earlier, to one of collective guilt for racism.

While abolishing racism — white, black, red, yellow and all shades between — is of towering importance, it cannot be accomplished in the face of denial.

Obama’s denial of having knowledge of Wright’s sermons does little to inspire confidence that he really gets it.

Another question evolves from the first. If it took Obama 20 years to learn about his pastor’s race-laced/America-hating sermons, how can we reasonably believe he wouldn’t be clueless as president?

Obama has been riding the wave of celebrity, carried by his oratory skills, charisma and his calls for change. He is not an ordinary politician, he claims, and I believe him.

The national recoil over Wright’s sermons and Obama’s attachment to the reverend remind me of the old adage that one shouldn’t throw stones if one lives in a glass house.

Obama skillfully avoided the question, but evasion is not an answer. And an answer, we need, not equivocation.


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objective79 wrote on Mar 21, 2008 4:17 PM:

" Perhaps you would save yourself the need to take your foot out of your mouth if you did your readers good by being an objective journalist.

As a journalist you are ethically required to vet an issue before passing judgment.

You and other media houses now have some explaining to do for foolishly jumping on the blind patriotism before reason bandwagon.

Fuller versions of Reverend Wright's sermon's are now availalbe on Youtube and what was shown the electorate was at best, character assasination.

You have all disgraced your profession. Rev Wright is a true patriot:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ

In a web 2.0 world, journalists have to be even more careful because we the readers have access to the all powerful internet. "

OpenMind wrote on Mar 21, 2008 5:10 PM:

" Obama absolutely answered the question! He was aware of incendiary remarks made by his pastor and said on Larry King Live that the remarks made by his pastor as shown on TV and YouTube were unpatriotic. He eloquently explained why he will not disown his pastor: Mr. Obama said that Rev. Jeremiah Wright was wrong. His sermons "denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation." Mr. Obama admitted that if all he knew of Mr. Wright were what he saw on the "endless loop . . . of YouTube," he wouldn't like him either. But he's known him 20 years as a man who taught him Christian faith, helped the poor, served as a Marine, and leads a community helping the homeless, needy and sick. "As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me." He would not renounce their friendship.

I understand Obama’s position because I have a family member who makes politically incorrect statements that are incendiary and embarrassing to me. Although we are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, I don’t disown him. I have a dear friend whose political beliefs are off the deep end, but we’ve been friends for 40 years and I will not abandon the friendship. My white Southern Baptist pastor has also made some statements from the pulpit over the years with which I strongly disagree, but I will not leave my church community because it is filled with many friends (with whom I also sometimes disagree). I am actively involved in my church’s missionary work that many other churches do not do.
For your information: The man who many conservatives quote today with fervor, was treated as an outcast in his own country when he gave a speech at Riverside Church on April 4, 1967, blasting America's involvement in the Vietnam War. Martin Luther King was disowned by many of his supporters, was denounced as a traitor to the nation and his speaking fees dried up.
Those who don’t want a Democrat, especially a black Democrat, in office, will use this incident to try to make Obama guilty by association. Are you one of them?
"

Illinoisbound wrote on Mar 22, 2008 9:17 AM:

" Good one, Harry. "

Just a Soldier wrote on Mar 22, 2008 9:59 AM:

" OpenMind, suggesting that anyone upset about this issue is only upset because they don't want a black man, or a Democrat, or both in the White House is far from open-minded. "

Dohbaugh wrote on Mar 22, 2008 10:55 AM:

" You hit the nail on the head, Open Mind. It's about those on the right, and the racists, finally finding an issue that they think will slow Obama down. They, along with their willing accomplices, Fox news, and radio hate mongers like Rush Limbaugh, will try to drag this issue out for as long as they can. Hopefully the majority of people will see through this smoke screen and will grow tired of it. Although they will vehemently deny it, I suspect the majority of them are against Obama because of his race. You will never see that on here, but I have talked to a lot of older people who willingly admit they don't want a black man in the white house. For those people, this issue came along at the right time. I have said for a long time that I too don't think this country is ready for a black president, and that ugly fact has certainly show it self to be true on this site. Stated briefly the bigots are merely using this situation to hide their hate behind. Interestingly enough, our resident war mongering Bush sycophant has even allowed this situation to overtake his Iraq war ranting. I didn't think any issue could do that, but it's amazing what racial bigotry and hatred will do to a person. The messages being put on here daily by the poster of multiple names, is much more than merely philosophical or political differences, they border on psychotic rages. "

The Question wrote on Mar 22, 2008 12:20 PM:

" Yes, we certainly don't need Obama to end the Iraq occupation. We need a good Republican to see that it continues for a 100 years.
Here's an example of the kind of great service that those no-bid, cost-plus Republican corporate contracts get you, from the Houston Chronicle.
"At least a dozen soldiers and Marines have been electrocuted in Iraq over the five years of the war, and investigators now are trying to learn what role improper grounding of electrical wires played in those deaths.
"And Houston-based KBR — which builds bases and maintains housing for U.S. troops in Iraq — is at the center of the probe, with questions being raised about its responsibility to repair known wiring problems."
"

1 cav wrote on Mar 22, 2008 2:00 PM:

" Good questions Mr. Reynolds.
It looks like we will not get the answers from slick willie Obama. He speech put his followers in a trance and that is all that is necessary,for his election. No reports of fainting this time?? "

coonbug wrote on Mar 22, 2008 2:49 PM:

" If this is the case, then Catholics failed to explain why they are still Catholics and attend a church that is affiliated with the Pope (Catholic church) -- after he and his comrades HID and IGNORED the sexual abuse that was going on for YEARS.

I don't care if YOUR priest was guilty or not -- by sticking with the church you are saying you support it and it's sins.

P.S.
I don't really believe this -- but to make a point, to ask a person to leave a church that lead you to God is ludicrous.

"

The Shadow wrote on Mar 22, 2008 5:53 PM:

" SpOkEn LiKe A tRuE bIgOt, DoHbAg. It MuSt Be MoRe Of ThOsE lIbTaRdEd VaLuEs. "

The Question wrote on Mar 22, 2008 6:38 PM:

" OpenMind, suggesting that anyone upset about this issue is only upset because they don't want a black man, or a Democrat, or both in the White House is far from open-minded.
------
And to suggest that racism ISN'T behind many people's great eagerness to attack Obama for what his minister, cousin, mail carrier or barber has to say would be naive, Soldier. You know, of course, that there are plenty of racists in America, and that they never admit that they are racists. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 22, 2008 6:56 PM:

" I heard the original document shredder, Oliver North fessing up on the Laura Ingraham show today (now there's a real can of right wing nuts) as to why the Iraq war went wrong. Reagan's scape goat for Iran Contra scandal and noted congressional liar Ollie said it was strategical error to dismiss over 500 thousand Iraqi troops, along with their weapons to go home to no job or no prospect of earning a living. Hmmmm...never have heard any of Bush's handlers bring that issue up. It took a lowly retired Lieutenant Colonel to admit that one. Ollie might find himself in Rogers Aile's office Monday along with Chris Wallace, who finally had enough of his fellow Foxers blasting Obama for three straight hours. Are the Fox boys finally getting it? Nah, they will fall back in line after a little pep talk from old Roger reminding them of Fox News's mission. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 23, 2008 12:48 AM:

" Yes, we certainly don't need Obama to end the Iraq occupation. We need a good Republican to see that it continues for a 100 years.

-------

More bad news for The Question-



Barack Obama military adviser Gen. Tony McPeak had this to say in an interview with the Oregonian in 2003-

Q. Is Iraq the last country we confront in the Middle East?

McPeak. “Who wants to volunteer to get cross-ways with us? We’ll be there a century, hopefully. If it works right.”

------

Now isn’t this the exact argument McCain has made repeatedly, and which Obama derides as “a hundred-years war”? Of course it is.

There he goes again Question-

"Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama"

LOL!!!!
"

The Question wrote on Mar 23, 2008 8:27 AM:

" By all means, let's talk about what some preacher said, and not all the good McBush progress being made in Iraq.
Remember how you supported this invasion and occupation, Harry? Why don't you tell us how wonderful it is now?
-----
Gunmen travelling in three cars have opened fire in a Baghdad market, killing at least six pedestrians, police and medics say.
At least 16 people were wounded when the drive-by shooting happened in the southern Zaafariniya area of the city.
Earlier, a barrage of fire had hit the city's heavily fortified Green Zone.
In further violence, at least 13 Iraqi soldiers were killed in a suicide bomb attack on an army base in the northern city of Mosul.
"

Woodstock wrote on Mar 23, 2008 9:09 AM:

" BINGO! Thank you for your editorial. It's good to hear the truth about Obama --- finally. It seems he's seduced the media is to some sort of fenzy that hates Hillary and ignores McCain. Your opinion is refreshing! Of course, I'm assuming you don't work for the Clinton camp, in which case, the Obama camp would demand you step down for speaking against Obama. It happened to Geraldine Ferraro...It could happen to any of us. Did I say that? "

Dohbaugh wrote on Mar 23, 2008 2:21 PM:

" It appears that Fox news is practically imploding over the Obama story. In their rabid dash to discredit him, even some of their more reasonable commentators are squabbling over some of the things being said. Even their idiot weather guy (Steve Doofus) has joined the let's get Obama fray. This is getting good. Hopefully more people will now see Fox news for what they really are. Even their most loyal fans have to ask them self, is this really reporting? This outfit is nothing more than a mud slinging propaganda machine. Fair and balanced, my a$$! "

medic wrote on Mar 23, 2008 2:27 PM:

" Hey Mr. Reynolds. I would like to know what kind of racial remarks you have made in your life. I bet youve made plenty, considering you have a narrow mind and self rightious attitude. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 23, 2008 2:27 PM:

" Barack Obama Feb 26 2008- “And if al Qaeda is forming a base in Iraq, then we will have to act in a way that secures the American homeland and our interests abroad.”


Osama Bin Laden March 20 2008- "Iraq is the perfect base to set up the jihad to liberate Palestine."


----------------


Any of you Liberal geniuses care to explain how Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama-

plans on pulling the troops out of Iraq ASAP?
"

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 23, 2008 2:59 PM:

" Oh and here's a specific question for,
The Question-

Do you plan on voting for Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama-

even though he share's the belief of George W. Bush that-

Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of the world? "

Dohbaugh wrote on Mar 23, 2008 4:19 PM:

" Not so fast there, Doh. I believe Bush sees himself as the Lord and savior of the world. I can't believe you set your self up so easy for that one. Moron! "

The Question wrote on Mar 23, 2008 5:02 PM:

" Bad news for all you Fox zombies. Sean Hannity's neo-Nazi, white-supremacist past is catching up with him.
----
The folks over at NewsHounds have been watching their Fox News Channel quarry dither over Senator Barack Obama's associations with pastor Jeremiah Wright, and noted Fox's own Sean Hannity getting himself tripped up in the guilt-by-association tango. Seems that one of Hannity's close chums is a neo-Nazi named Hal Turner who used to be a radio host, is apparently the top man in Bergen, NJ white-supremacist circles, and probably spends a lot of his time in his basement with Star Wars action figures acting out Holocaust-denier versions of The Return of the Jedi. In short, just the sort of person with whom you'd imagine Sean Hannity spends a lot of formational time with.
Anyway, a few days ago, Hannity brought Malik Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party on the show. Shabazz and his organization had previously chosen to endorse Barack Obama, who subsequently rejected the endorsement. It was up to Hannity to make some hay out of this, but the tables got turned very quickly. From NewsHounds:
Hannity added, "What I don't think you're understanding here, Malik, is that when you hear the minister of him for 20 years, when you hear the associations with Louis Farrakhan, one of the biggest racists and anti-Semites in the country, what you're not understanding is, America hears extremism at its worst."
Shabazz responded, "Let me ask you this. Are you to be judged by your promotion and association with Hal Turner?"
Hannity waved his arm around. "I don't know anybody named - this is nonsense. I don't..." Then Hannity changed his tune. "Sir, sir... That was a man that was banned from my radio show ten years ago, that ran a Senate campaign in New Jersey."
Then, as Shabazz refused to stop talking or back down, Hannity, in a tacit admission, said, "I'm not running for president."
"A neo Nazi, you backed his career," Shabazz said.
Hannity answered, "That is an absolute, positive, lie and you've been reading the wrong websites..., my friend. Good try."
....days later, Turner himself was doing his pal a total solid by coming out and stating, "Oh, yeah! We're best of buds!" I was quite disappointed when Sean Hannity at first tried to say he didn't know me and then went on to say that I ran some senate campaign in New Jersey. In fact, Sean Hannity does know me and we were quite friendly a number of years ago."
— JASON LINKINS

"

Dohbaugh wrote on Mar 23, 2008 5:29 PM:

" It should come to no ones surprise that Hannity has a personal connection to a Neo-Nazi. Sean Hannity gets high on bigotry, and Rush Limbaugh, well he just gets high. "

Just a Soldier wrote on Mar 23, 2008 5:52 PM:

" Question,

The difference between your "many people" and OpenMind's "all people" is one big flaw in your rebuttal to me. Aside from that, it is very convenient to paint everyone with a differing opinion as a racist. Is this what an Obama presidency would be like? If he raises taxes and I oppose, will I be a racist? Am I a racist for opposing his plan for withdrawl from Iraq. I would argue that a majority of people voicing concern over this Rev. Wright issue are far from biggots. My problem with his message is that it hampers unity, rather than strengthen it. If wanting to put the days of blacks and whites verbally attacking each other in the past makes me a racist, sign me up with the full membership package, complete with keychain and bumper sticker, because I don't want my kids living in a world where they hear garbage like that from the mouths of anyone, regardless of skin color. "

pj61938 wrote on Mar 23, 2008 6:04 PM:

" Dohbaugh, would you like to tell us about Barack Obama's history of drug abuse? You seem to enjoy that sort of tabloid garbage. So tell us all about your guy. "

Dohbaugh wrote on Mar 23, 2008 7:42 PM:

" Well OK, since you asked, pj61938. I believe he has come clean and admitted that like Georg Bush he tried drugs as a young man. There seems to be a lot more folks familiar with George's wild alcohol and cocaine parties than Obama's minor dabbling. The difference in him and Bush is that he never had to do community service like George did for his involvement with drugs as a young man. Considering Georges past with cocaine and alcohol use, I wonder if that was really a good question for you to be asking? Glad to be of help. Can't say I have heard too much about McCain using drugs but I have some pretty good dope on his infidelities, if you would like I could share them with you. I do have some pretty good info on McCains wife's drug addiction and drug thefts, though. Want some details on that issue? I am to please, fair and balanced, I report you decide. "

pj61938 wrote on Mar 23, 2008 8:12 PM:

" So Dohbaugh, basically everyone in politics has an association with drugs in way or another. And your point is? "

coonbug wrote on Mar 24, 2008 10:23 AM:

" Harry,

The Constitution (Article VI) states that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

You of ALL people should know this.

So technically, what is said inside this man's church is between him, God and it's visitors. Those of you pushing this story are requiring Barack Obama to prove something about his religious beliefs that the rest of the presidential candidates do not have to do.

If you require BELIEFS from one candidate - it's HIGH TIME you begin doing the same of others running for this office.
"

The Question wrote on Mar 24, 2008 11:30 AM:

" Well put, Coonbug. This whole media campaign is just a shameful way to "Dean scream" Obama, and has all the earmarks of a Karl Rove propaganda job. Rove always targets his opponent's strength, not his weakness. So when you're running a combat-dodging warmonger coward like Bush against a combat veteran like Kerry, you paint Kerry's service as an illegitimate scam. And when you're running against a biracial professor of constitutional law who has argued for American unity and reconciliation all his life, you paint him as a secret racist, putting the words of someone else into his mouth. And the American people are just about stupid enough to fall for it. "

miltmart wrote on Mar 24, 2008 10:45 PM:

" Just a Soldier: Thank you for your service and for your thoughtful posts. "

Cognitus wrote on Mar 25, 2008 8:41 AM:

" Let me put in perspective those who claim that Obama should have left the church the instant Wright made a racist remark.
I met my wife in Virginia where her family lived. Soon after we were married (I'm talking now about the mid 1950s) we went with her family to church in her home town. It was "Brotherhood Sunday". And the minister in his sermon toward the end suggested that in this time of racial strife we should consider that even blacks were our "brothers".
When we got home, my father-in-law, who was an elder in the church, said he did not consider blacks "brothers" and that at the next meeting of the Session they would "set the minister straight on this brotherhood business".
Question to those who think Obama should have left the church: was I obligated to castigate my father-in-law and divorce my wife over these remarks??
Come on folks: don't back off now with wishy-washy opinions. Be BOLD and as racist as you've been re Obama "

Read all over wrote on Mar 26, 2008 7:43 AM:

" A statement from the pastor of Hillary Clinton's church:

A STATEMENT CONCERNING THE REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times. He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. He has been a vocal critic of the racism, sexism and homophobia which still tarnish the American dream. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize. This is a critical time in America's history as we seek to repent of our racism. No matter which candidates prevail, let us use this time to listen again to one another and not to distort one another's truth.
Dean J. Snyder, Senior Minister
Foundry United Methodist Church
March 19, 2008
"

The Question wrote on Mar 26, 2008 8:56 AM:

" Nothing is more uplifting than watching MSNBC's "Morning Joe," where wealthy Anglicized Irish Americans like Joe Scarborough, Chris Matthews, Tim "Little Russ" Russert and Pat Buchanan hold forth on the topic of race. During the week beginning March, 17, 2008, the talk was all about whether Barack Obama should distance himself from Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Presumably in the same manner that they distanced themselves from Don Imus.
Buchanan has been awarded more time to discuss race and the bigotry of Rev. Wright than the scores of black intellectuals and scholars, who could provide some insight, combined. According to U. S. News & World Report (1/16/92), Pat Buchanan said In 1977 that Hitler was "a political organizer of the first rank," a man of "extraordinary gifts," "great courage" and elements of "genius."
— ISHMAEL REED "

father bob wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:44 AM:

" kind of amazes me that this whole jeramiah wright "hate spewing" as our neocon, rightwing, christian coalition, WASP posters like to refer to is somehow different than the hate their beloved rush, sean and bill spew everyday 24/7.....

talk about racist...... "

Steve Ditko wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:55 PM:

" MICHAEL GOLDFARB- Last month, long before the chickens came home to roost, Obama attacked McCain:


"I am looking forward to a debate with John McCain. John McCain is a good man. He's an American hero. We honor his service to this nation. But he has made some bad choices about the company he keeps."


If this is how we are to judge a candidate, then Obama still has a lot of explaining to do.

"

Steve Ditko wrote on Mar 26, 2008 10:02 PM:

" OBAMA ADVISER MCPEAK: WAR THE FAULT OF AMERICAN JEWS

"In an interview with The Oregonion about five years ago, McPeak argued that the influence exerted by American Jews is responsible for the lack of progress in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. According to the general the problem was New York and Miami.
“We have a large vote here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it,” he said.In the same interview, McPeak spoke of his personal experience with Israel.
“I’ve spent a lot of time in Israel, worked at one time very closely with the Israeli Air Force as a junior officer,” he said, “but that’s maybe the more cosmopolitan, liberal version of the Israeli population.”
McPeak also charged that Jews and Christian Zionists manipulated American foreign policy in Iraq. “Let’s say that one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq,” he said. - ynetnews.com "

Steve Ditko wrote on Mar 27, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Ed Morrissey- Those Democratic governors are dropping like flies now. Federal prosecutors got indictments against Puerto Rico’s governor Anibal Acevedo Vila and a dozen of his associates for corruption charges stemming from fundraising operations and tax fraud. Acevedo also holds another position of note — Democratic superdelegate and Barack Obama endorser.

///////

LOL! More of that company Obama keeps!
"

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 27, 2008 12:23 PM:

" Obama- "I am looking forward to a debate with John McCain. John McCain is a good man. He's an American hero. We honor his service to this nation. But HE HAS MADE SOME BAD CHOICES ABOUT THE COMPANY HE KEEPS."

---------

Hey wait a minute!

Isn't that exactly what we sane people have been saying about the company Obama keeps?

Phone rings:

"Hello?"

(pauses)

"One moment please."

(Put's the phone down.)

Hey, Obama apologists-

Hypocrisy's on the line......it wants to speak with you.
"

father bob wrote on Mar 28, 2008 10:38 AM:

" ""Hypocrisy's on the line......it wants to speak with you.""

sorry....your know him much better, you talk to him. you, hypocrisy and racism are always hangin' tight. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 28, 2008 11:17 AM:

" "sorry....your know him much better, you talk to him. you, hypocrisy and racism are always hangin' tight."

---------

Gee fatherbob- shouldn't that statement be directed towards Senator Obama and his spiritual advisor- Rev Wright? "

father bob wrote on Mar 28, 2008 5:36 PM:

" Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 28, 2008 11:17 AM:
" "sorry....your know him much better, you talk to him. you, hypocrisy and racism are always hangin' tight."

---------

Gee fatherbob- shouldn't that statement be directed towards Senator Obama and his spiritual advisor- Rev Wright? "

oh come on bryant....knock the dust off you hood and robe.....you know you want to...just let go "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 28, 2008 7:24 PM:

" "oh come on bryant....knock the dust off you hood and robe.....you know you want to...just let go"

------

Would you still say that to me bob-

if I told you I was black?
"

lefty wrote on Mar 29, 2008 12:00 AM:

" Good lord BRYANT, you know just about everything on Obama. Obsess much?! "

The Question wrote on Mar 29, 2008 6:46 AM:

" Would you still say that to me bob-
if I told you I was black?
-----
That is the funniest thing you've ever said, BL. "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 29, 2008 12:24 PM:

" Good news for all of fans of the gay bloated drug addicted, Rush Limbaugh. According to a piece on Drudge today, he has been encouraging his lemmings to cross over and vote as Republicans, and as dutiful little little stooges, they have. In addition he has been hawking his tee shirts and coffee cups to these idiots as well. He has been telling his flock that he will be prosecuted for this, but according to the Ohio Attorney general, it isn't a crime to lie through your teeth or be stupid in Ohio. So I guess your icon is safe for now. Until old Rush gets busted for buying, selling or using illegal drugs, or soliciting a male prostitute, as he did in Pittsburgh, several years ago, he should be free to blast away his messages of hate, division, lies by omission and as well as his outright lies for a while. "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 29, 2008 12:34 PM:

" "Good lord BRYANT, you know just about everything on Obama. Obsess much?!"

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And apparently you know very little about Obama- lefty. Ignorant much?

"

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 29, 2008 12:36 PM:

" " Would you still say that to me bob-
if I told you I was black?
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That is the funniest thing you've ever said, BL. "

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Really Question?

Will the answer to it be just as funny? "

Cognitus wrote on Mar 29, 2008 10:09 PM:

" Lanphier: Any of you Liberal geniuses care to explain how Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama-plans on pulling the troops out of Iraq ASAP? ###########
Well, I'll leave it to you, RightWing genius, to explain how your buddy Georgie W Bush is going to find "VICTORY" in Iraq.
Remember he's the guy who told us 5 years ago we would be greeted as "liberators". Yip, and we're still at work "liberating". Today it's Basra; not many remember that Basra is in trouble because one of the members of "our great coalition" packed up their gear, concluding Bushie didn't know his a## about Iraq, AND WENT HOME. Notice you don't hear Bush using the word "coalition" any more?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm not quite sure why Lamphier used the possessive of share when he wrote "even though he share's the belief of George W. Bush". I guess Lamphier is also a high ranking graduate of Harvard, a school he must love since he mentions it so often...... "

Cognitus wrote on Mar 29, 2008 10:12 PM:

" Lamphier: "Osama Bin Laden March 20 2008- "Iraq is the perfect base to set up the jihad to liberate Palestine."^^^^^^^^^
Don't waste time telling us the obvious; just admit that WE are the ones who made it so. Remember Saddam and bin Laden are on opposite sides of the religious fence so it would never have happened THEN; but we have made it possible to happen NOW.
Congratulations George W Bush!!!!!! "

Harry Potter wrote on Mar 30, 2008 8:38 AM:

" I'll ask again, Bryant, how's that surge going? "

Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 30, 2008 2:24 PM:

" Cognitus...... uhm, you still didn't explain how Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama-plans on pulling the troops out of Iraq ASAP.

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"I'm not quite sure why Lamphier used the possessive of share"

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Because I'm a simple man who is prone to simple mistakes- Cognitus.


Not unlike Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama.

But I would like to invoke the wisdom of your friend Locke-

"When logic fails, resort to grammar policing"

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By the why Cognitus-
It was The Question who first used the phrase- "Harvard-educated, top-of-his-class professor of constitutional law and bestselling author, Sen. Barry Hussein Obama".



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Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 30, 2008 2:30 PM:

" "I'll ask again, Bryant, how's that surge going?"

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The surge is still maintaining peace through out most of Iraq- Harry.

And Iraqi and U.S. troops are fighting to quell the recent violence in The Green Zone in Baghdad.

Thanks for asking- Harry.

"

father bob wrote on Mar 31, 2008 5:29 PM:

" Bryant Lamphier wrote on Mar 28, 2008 7:24 PM:
" "oh come on bryant....knock the dust off you hood and robe.....you know you want to...just let go"

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Would you still say that to me bob-

if I told you I was black?



i am black, and it's pretty easy to tell a lot of things from the hate you've spewed since you've tried to re-invent yourself. "

father bob wrote on Mar 31, 2008 5:48 PM:

" Cognitus wrote on Mar 29, 2008 10:12 PM:
" Lamphier: "Osama Bin Laden March 20 2008- "Iraq is the perfect base to set up the jihad to liberate Palestine."^^^^^^^^^
Don't waste time telling us the obvious; just admit that WE are the ones who made it so. Remember Saddam and bin Laden are on opposite sides of the religious fence so it would never have happened THEN; but we have made it possible to happen NOW.
Congratulations George W Bush!!!!!! "


no doubt he's brought people together!! "

even steven wrote on Apr 4, 2008 12:58 PM:

" Obama attending that church is really no different than if Clinton or McCain attended Westboro Baptist Church over the past two decades.

There is no way to sugarcoat hate speech. It is what it is. "

The Question wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:32 AM:

" There is no way to sugarcoat hate speech. It is what it is.
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Actually, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh manage to sugarcoat it pretty well every weekday. "

 


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