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Saturday, January 5, 2008 1:19 AM CST
Businesses not burned by ban — so far



Dean Gowin, owner of Cody’s Roadhouse and Spirits of Mattoon is not sure what he’ll do with the old ashtrays from his business with the statewide smoking ban in effect since Tuesday.

“Maybe we can use them for shooting practice or as hockey pucks. I really don’t know,” he said with a laugh Friday.

But like many area restaurant owners, he and his employees face no more hassles over seating requests for customers with non-smoking or smoking preferences. The recent addition to the restaurant has gone to a non-smoking section like the rest of the business, eliminating the constant demand on about 84 dining seats by smokers.

“Now it’s non-smoking or non-smoking. That makes it pretty easy,” he said.

Though he uses humor on the subject of the smoking ban in all Illinois public places, including restaurants and taverns, he also realizes it is too early to determine whether smoking customers will laugh it off. And that could cost him some business down the road.

“It is too early to tell what affect this will have on us. We can only worry about what we can control. It’s the law and we’re going to to have to live with it,” said Gowin. “Most people are in a restaurant for about an hour so they can take it in stride. But I have mixed emotions about dictating to people on what they can do.”

Old habits have been hard to break for some of the customers who had been accustomed to being able to smoke at Roc’s Black Front in Charleston.

Roc’s owner Mike Knoop said some smokers have gotten involved in a conversation and lit up this week, forgetting the state’s new smoking restrictions. Roc’s staff then has to remind them.

“The law is the law, so we are going to be as vigilant as we possibly can,” Knoop said. “I am a smoker myself and I can’t smoke here.“

Knoop said it is too soon to say whether the smoking ban will hurt his business, noting Roc’s was closed on New Year’s Day when the ban started. He said more customers than usual were smoking on New Year’s Eve.

Smoking and nonsmoking customers will get used to the ban over time, Knoop said. He added smokers are already accustomed to not being able to smoke inside their workplaces.

“I am hoping that the people who couldn’t take smoking will now be willing to come in,” Knoop said.

Deb Dunn, manager of Spanky’s Food and Spirits in Mattoon, is missing smoking there like her customers. Before Jan. 1, about 60 percent of Spanky customers and some employees could light up in every section of the business. Now only outdoors is a haven for smokers, which has offered little solace with temperatures in the single digits or teens most of the week.

“We allowed smoking here forever. Everybody has been pretty decent about it. They still want to do it. Sure they can go outside. But you could get pneumonia going out to our pavilion,” said Dunn.

But she worries the non-smoking ban will grind away at the better nature of some Spanky’s customers. But for now, there is relative peace there.

Some of the regular customers at South Side Cafe in Charleston have said they will not come in for their morning coffee if they cannot smoke there, recalled owner Tricia Craig. Smokers account for a good percentage of the cafe’s regular customers, she said.

“When some of the other places went to nonsmoking, smokers came here because we allowed smoking,” Craig said.

Although her business has been a bit slow this week, Craig it is too early to tell if the smoking ban is the reason. She said cold weather and the New Year’s season could also be factors behind the slow week.

Craig said businesses should be able to decide whether they will allow smoking. Now that the state has put the ban into place, Craig does hope new customers will visit South Side Cafe.

“I know a lot of people didn’t come in because we did allow smoking,” Craig said.

There was no last stand of smokers at the Alamo Steakhouse and Saloon in Mattoon, said manager Alex Schmink.

“We’ve had no complaints since Wednesday. We were closed Tuesday. People in the restaurant are really enjoying it mainly because they don’t smoke. Some people have said it’s state law so there’s no reason to complain to us,” Schmink said.

The restaurant had four tables dedicated to smokers before the ban took effect this week, he said. Smoking was also allowed in the bar and lounge area.

Located on the east side of Mattoon, Alamo Steakhouse is one of several food service businesses that draws some customers from Interstate 57. Are some out-of-state customers surprised by the smoking ban in Illinois? Schmink said the smoking sections caught out-of-towners by surprise more.

“When we had smoking sections some people out of state or from the Chicago area were surprised we had it,” he said.

One place where smokers can still light up is Indio Cigar Factory, a retail tobacco shop in Charleston that offers a lounge where people can watch sports on television and play games while smoking.

Indio co-owner Marvin Mirick said he was hoping to see an upswing in customers after the ban went into effect, but he has not seen an increase yet. He said business will hopefully pick up now that the holidays are over, the weather is warming a bit, and Eastern Illinois University’s fall semester is beginning.

Mirick said he is also planning a public relations campaign for his shop.

“A lot of people may not realize they can still come here and smoke,” Mirick said.

Contact Herb Meeker at hmeeker@jg-tc.com or 238-6869. Contact Rob Stroud at rstroud@jg-tc.com or 348-5733.


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Rotty wrote on Jan 5, 2008 2:57 AM:

" You go, Marvin! Indio Cigar Factory is right on the Charleston square folks. (Blatent plug here lol) Good Luck, Miricks'! "

smileyone wrote on Jan 5, 2008 7:35 AM:

" Well, I might as well be the first to comment on this VERY controversial subject! Next, they'll be telling us what time to brush our teeth and take out our trash! This country is becoming a real communist country! For the people who smoke, I feel pity for, you will now be banned from enjoying what you liked to do most while having a drink out socializing with your friends or even out bowling, and for the non-smokers out there, there were plenty of non-smoking places to visit already without raising a fuss and making all of the smokers suffer too. You could have kept visiting the non-smoking facilities without being "bothered" by the smoke. As far as the governor goes, he is just trying to ensure he has made his "I have POWER notation noted on his way OUT the DOOR" noted." "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 5, 2008 10:50 AM:

" I don't like..cough..cough.. the smoking ban..gasp...pant. gasp..cough...Come on kids get your coats on, we're going to Terre Haute, I think..cough.. you can still..pant.. smoke in the restaurants over there. "

The Dude wrote on Jan 5, 2008 1:27 PM:

" It's only a matter of time before the government does in fact enforce nationwide smoking bans. Not only that, they will regulate how much gas we can buy, how much trash we can throw away, and how much food we can buy. And we have no one to blame but ourselves. As lazy fat Americans, if we don't start taking care of our bodies and our planet ourselves, then it is up to the government to do it for us. And I commend them for it. "

medic wrote on Jan 5, 2008 5:40 PM:

" This is socialism at its best. I can see no smoking in restaurants, but in bars?? If the non-smokers want a smoke free bar then I say show me your entrepreneurial spirit and open a non-smoking bar. Hell whats next an alcohol free bar?? "

medic wrote on Jan 5, 2008 5:41 PM:

" Oh by the way, there are many other places that feel the smoking ban has hurt their business. Better do some more digging Herb because you are wrong. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:55 PM:

" Shades of the old Smokehouse that used to be on the square! Are ladies gonna be welcome at this establishment? It was an "unwritten rule" that "we girls" didn't go into the smokehouse when I was a mere teenaged lass. I'm surprised I didn't break that rule,as ornery as I could be sometimes. I think the reason I didn't, was because my dad knew everyone in town and there would have been hell to pay if he had heard I had been in there! It wasn't worth getting grounded for a month! LOL! "

Interested Observer wrote on Jan 5, 2008 9:59 PM:

" I don't smoke and never have, but I think that this 'nanny state' nonsense has gone too far. The last time I checked, we had a CHOICE about whether or not we patronize establishments that allowed smoking. "

Citizen Kane wrote on Jan 6, 2008 12:16 AM:

" Please people, please! You citizens simply don't understand what is best for you. You are all much too stupid to make such informed and logical decisions for yourself. That is the job of big government. For instance: a lot of you are consuming entirely too much fat and cholesterol- don't worry we'll soon take care of that. Not enough of you are exercising as much as you should- we will soon take care of that too. And not enough of you small business owners have a "diversified" work force- we will definitely be taking care of that. Oh and it would really be more convenient if every couple had a maximum of two children- we will soon take care of that little problem. And we prefer more male children- we'll be fixing that as well. Now then, a lot of you live in houses that are far larger than you really need....... "

Silver Tongue Devil Rotty wrote on Jan 6, 2008 1:01 AM:

" Bring on the women! The more the merrier! To quote "The Mask", we'll all be SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSMOKIN! LOL! "

coonbug wrote on Jan 6, 2008 12:39 PM:

" I'd love to see what would happen if some group started demanding that Drinking Alcohol can only be drank in ones own home -- I'm betting all HECK would break loose. Even though it's a fact that drunk drivers endanger and sometimes kill other human beings. It's also been proven that heavy drinking can cause health issues like liver problems for example....which causes health insurance to go up to pay for the alcoholics care. *********** Think that will ever happen? Doubt it! Coonsey's View: www.freewebs.com/coonsey/ "

Interested Observer wrote on Jan 6, 2008 4:46 PM:

" Some day the government will manage to anger the drinkers, smokers, gun owners and gamblers all at once; when that day comes, all he** is going to break loose! *grin* "

Dohbaugh wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:27 PM:

" Did you have to mention gun owners, IO? Please don't get them started. "

Why Not wrote on Jan 6, 2008 5:36 PM:

" Yes, Coonbug, drunk drivers do endanger and kill other humans...that is why it is illegal, as well, smoking NOW and FINALLY, at least in public. Yeah, drinking can cause health issues...so can smoking, but smoking can also cause health problems to those in the area not just the one consuming. You ever visit a nursing home and see how many people have respiratory problems from smoking and they are on medicare/medicaid? What about the costs of that health insurance? Ever stop at a home medical equipment provider and see the amount and cost of oxygen tanks to those homebound and on oxygen due to smoking? What about those costs? Ever talk to a child or young adult who never smoked, but they have respiratory problems that could have been caused by a parent's smoking? What about the cost and limitations to that person? "

coonbug wrote on Jan 6, 2008 6:41 PM:

" Why Not -- I have a sister with severe COPD, on oxygen 24/7 and it was most likely caused by her smoking. I smoked about 30 years, finally quit because of health and cost of cigs. Your point about smoking HURTING others - so does drinking, not only in cars, but in families with an abusive or uncaring alcoholics in them, children are mentally handicapped because of some situations, etc.. -- it also brings MY and YOUR insurance costs up because of drinkers habits. -- don't get me wrong, I drank for years and enjoyed it. Still would, just don't like the hangovers. My point is, wait till some group goes after YOUR favorite past time (if it is) - then tell me it's OK cause you know you're hurting others or you Could hurt others. Where does the GOVERNMENT controlling STOP? "

The Dude wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:12 PM:

" My favorite pasttime is baseball. The government will never control that. Wait a second...Bonds...Mitchell Report...Congressional hearings on steroids. Aww No! Government control on baseball too! Well we can always revolt and refuse to obey the government, and just smoke and drink, and not pay taxes. That's how this country got started anyway. "

Citizen Kane wrote on Jan 6, 2008 7:54 PM:

" Well said coonbug, succinct and to the point. Certain areas of New York and California have already mandated bans on smoking in private residences. Next will be the food police and God only knows what else. "

Citizen Kane wrote on Jan 6, 2008 8:05 PM:

" Yes Dude; a professional sports organization involving illegal prescription drugs is an accurate analogy for the freedoms and rights of an entire populace and their use of a legal substance at designated locations. Congratulations, you’ve managed to match the proverbial apple to the unrelated orange. I’m guessing you fall down a lot don’t you. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:00 PM:

" The post from The Dude made him sound like a Dud! "

kelly wrote on Jan 6, 2008 9:11 PM:

" Government has gotten too big for its britches. It seems like we are allowing people in power to strip our freedoms away one by one, little by little, and eventually we will have our lives run BY the government rather than having the government run by US. It is those we elect who make the laws, and we need to be watchful of what the agendas are when we cast our ballots. This is just another example of the controlling nature we have allowed. Look how far we have come since the forefathers created our wonderful land and Constitution...it really makes me wonder where we are headed and where this all will end. "

Citizen Kane wrote on Jan 6, 2008 10:28 PM:

" We are headed towards Socialist Europe and our final destination will be the neo-revival of the U.S.S.R. The Revolutionary War hero Gen. John Stark summed it up best "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." "

Harry Potter wrote on Jan 7, 2008 7:48 AM:

" Citizen Kane, I'll bet you look under your bed every night, for a new boogie man, don't you? Ooooooh...look out...their coming to get you! "

Collatine wrote on Jan 7, 2008 8:30 AM:

" It's odd some are equating the smoking ban with socialism or communism. You guys need an education in what socialism and communism really is... About the only thing socialism or communism bans is making a profit... but not banning certain unhealthy activities. It's overreach yes. Communism... not so much. "

whattobeacop wrote on Jan 7, 2008 12:37 PM:

" There you go again HARRY POTTER cutting the law down again
"

The Dude wrote on Jan 7, 2008 7:11 PM:

" Wow, did I just step into the Third Grade classroom or what. It seems as if all of the bullies in here are quick to insult someone rather than responding like an adult. "

tammer65 wrote on Jan 7, 2008 9:54 PM:

" Dude, Well said! I don't know why your posts generated such venomous attacks. Try not to take it personally, though. You should check out what passes as debate on some of the other threads, particularly if religion or the banning of anything that produces smoke is the topic. "

medic wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:05 AM:

" First of all, the fine for smoking (cigarette) is higher than the fine for getting caught with a marijuana cigarette. What the hell are we becoming? It makes me sick to see that we are losing our right to decide. What a country we live in. "

Beaches wrote on Jan 8, 2008 6:19 AM:

" There is a thread that is running through this, and many, posts on this site. Government telling us what to do. I hope all of you vote. What is truly disappointing is that we live in a democratic society and so few people actually exercise their right to vote. You can't complain about what government is doing if you don't take responsibility and take part for electing the government. People overseas are dying for the opportunity to vote and we don't even show up at the polls. "

Becky wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Beaches,

Here, here.....well said! "

coonbug wrote on Jan 8, 2008 10:31 AM:

" Beaches.....I agree.....VOTE people - be Americans. ------- Coonsey's View: www.freewebs.com/coonsey/ "

medic wrote on Jan 8, 2008 1:12 PM:

" I agree with you beaches. I would hope that people who have something to say, say it at the polling place of their choice. We are Americans, we used to fight for these rights that are now being ripped away because of complacency and laziness. If you are a smoker or a non-smoker, we should all be very vocal about this injustice. Call your congress person and let them know how you feel. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jan 8, 2008 3:27 PM:

" Dude, Sometimes the smarta$$ devil grabs hold of me and yikes, I let fly! Sorry Dude! "

Dohbaugh wrote on Jan 8, 2008 4:40 PM:

" For my friend Billie, it seems that our old pal Doh, has figured out a way to beat the name identification system on here and is posting all sorts of crap under my name. I'm sure he will make derogatory comments to you too, claiming to be me. If any show up, please know that they are from him and not me, thanks. "

Billie Brant wrote on Jan 8, 2008 4:59 PM:

" Dohbaugh, He never made any nasty statements to me before, so IF he's the one posting under your name, I doubt he'll do it now. I guess I just don't want to think he's doing all this stuff. We don't have absolute proof, so the benefit of the doubt comes into play here for me. I just wish Doh would come back. So.... to whomever has figured out how to beat the system and use Dohbaugh's name, forget about any nasty things directed at me under the guise of Dohbaugh. While he and I can disagree on things he doesn't get nasty with me, EVER! We do enjoy being smartalecs once in awhile though, and try to use humor to do it. I've taken some shots that hit me right between the eyes also, which made me blink a little! LOL! Gotta laugh once in awhile! Don't worry about whomever is doing it Dohbaugh. I KNOW better. "

George Bailey wrote on Jan 8, 2008 5:03 PM:

" So this is your next big bait- huh Doughy? Pretty lame screwy. Pretty lame. "

George Bailey wrote on Jan 8, 2008 7:11 PM:

" Hey Billie, I'm Doh! Don't you remember? I can't stop talking about Iraq, I'm not mean to you, I'm now a world class computer hacker, and I'm ten feet tall and can leap over tall buildings in a single bound! Yep! I'm SUPER DOH!!! LOL! "

Rotty wrote on Jan 8, 2008 8:54 PM:

" Who knows what's going on, but please know Billie's thoughts pretty well equal my own - even though I've had my ups & downs, I try not to get caught up in too much of the lunacy around here. Alot of you have become good friends, on here, even though we've probably went at each other a time or two, & I'd like to remain good friends. Life is too short the way it is. Take Care All! "

ItsJustDave wrote on Jan 11, 2008 7:32 PM:

" Put THIS in your pipe and smoke it....

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1063983120080110

Boss fires staff for not smoking

(Reuters) - The owner of a small German computer company has fired three non-smoking workers because they were threatening to disturb the peace after they requested a smoke-free environment.

The manager of the 10-person IT company in Buesum, named Thomas J., told the Hamburger Morgenpost newspaper he had fired the trio because their non-smoking was causing disruptions.

Germany introduced non-smoking rules in pubs and restaurants on January 1, but Germans working in small offices are still allowed to smoke.

"I can't be bothered with trouble-makers," Thomas was quoted saying. "We're on the phone all the time and it's just easier to work while smoking. Everyone picks on smokers these days. It's time for revenge. I'm only going to hire smokers from now on." "

Mattooner at Heart wrote on Jan 15, 2008 9:03 PM:

" I've probably posted this comment before so please forgive the duplication, but what is the easiest way to stop people from smoking? Take away their cigarettes! Why doesn't the state of Illinois ban the purchase and sale of cigarettes? There's too much money in tobacco taxes, sin taxes and tax taxes. Please don't pat the legislators on the back for looking after your health. They're looking after their wealth. ########## When elected officials sense a groundswell of some kind of complaint, their first and sometimes only reaction is "Make this go away." A law makes it go away. Is it constitutional? Who cares? That's up to the judicial branch. Will it hurt business? Who cares? We'll worry about that later. "

 

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Marvin Mirick, owner of Indio Cigar Factory in Charleston, lights up an Occidental reserve cigar while in his shop on Friday. Although Mirick has not seen any noticeable increase in business, he has seen some new faces walk into his shop to ask questions since the smoke ban has been put into effect. Jay Grabiec/Staff Photographer


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