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Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:02 PM CDT
New charges in horse case; owner wants horses returned





LATESTCHARLESTON — More charges have been filed against the owner of a farm where several horses were allegedly neglected, and he’s now suing to try to get his horses returned to him.

Ernest C. Rose is now charged with 45 counts of misdemeanor offenses in connection with the treatment of the more than 60 horses Coles County authorites found dead at or removed from his farm at 1050 W. Coolidge Ave., Charleston.

Twelve counts of violation of owner’s duties were added to the case on Wednesday, five days after the initial charges were filed in the case. The earlier charges are 17 counts of violation of owner’s duties and 16 counts of unlawful disposal of a dead animal; some of the separate charges make allegations concerning a single horse.

There’s no indication when Rose might appear in court.

Continued attempt to contact Rose haven’t been successful, but on Thursday his attorney, Michael Tague of Champaign, said Rose denies the allegations.

“We believe those charges are unfounded,” Tague said. He said Rose plans to plead not guilty to the charges, adding that he didn’t want Rose to talk to the news media about the case.

On Tuesday, Tague filed a lawsuit on Rose’s behalf in U.S. District Court in Urbana that claimed the seizure of the horses represented a violation of Rose’s constitutional rights. The suit asks for the horses to be returned and for monetary damages to be paid to Rose.

“He does not intend to get out of the horse business,” Tague said. “Part of our agenda is to get the horses back.”


Coles County sheriff’s deputies and animal shelter officials first visited on Aug. 1 and reportedly found some horses dead and numerous others in a state of neglect. On Sept. 12, authorities removed the remaining horses at the farm, about 60 in all, after they said Rose didn’t start caring for them properly as he indicated he would.





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HisChild wrote on Oct 11, 2007 2:46 PM:

" NO WAY!!!! "

horseshaverights wrote on Oct 11, 2007 4:48 PM:

" That place was disgusting.If he cared so much about the horses why didn't he make an attempt to improve the conditions. They were crowded into stalls, little or no food or water. Some were up to thier knees in mud. The horses should stay where they are. "

medic57 wrote on Oct 12, 2007 2:35 AM:

" Arrogance at it's finest. A man who was cruel to dozens of horses and his idiot attourney. They ought through them both in jail, 1 for breaking the law and the other for being stupid. "

Tom Andres wrote on Oct 12, 2007 9:36 AM:

" Except for the fact that there were 14 dead horses found on his property, and many more that were said to be in poor condition, don’t be surprised if Rose walks away from many of the charges against him and wins his civil suit as well. It’s frustrating that the ‘obvious’ (as it appears to a lay public) sometimes yields little that’s legally ‘black and white’ in a courtroom. Emotional witness accounts won’t necessarily gain a guilty verdict in front of a judge. I’m betting that Rose will avoid a jury trial (where emotions do come into play) requesting a bench trial instead. **** I’m not supporting Rose. I’m just saying that, in the end, it’s going to be very difficult to prove all of the charges against him and that he may even get his horses back along with some cash. As for the rescuers in this case, it may turn out to be one of those ‘no good deed goes unpunished’ situations. "

TigerRose wrote on Oct 13, 2007 6:32 AM:

" Well, isn't that real swell. He hasn't even cared for his horses enough in the past, so some of them died because of his lack of care... plus the ones left alive were in poor, starving condition. NOW he wants to have the opportunity to kill off the rest of the herd. IF the court is so silly as to give Rose that chance, we need a new judge in office, IMO. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Oct 14, 2007 3:34 PM:

" If Dr. Rose had been contrite, admitted that he was overwhelmed as an absentee owner and offered sincere apologies, I would have been open to the idea of a lengthy probation term, with the condition that he not own horses. Now that 'does not intend to get out of the horse business' , i hope he has to run that horse business from a jail cell. 45 counts? Seems like 45 CONSECUTIVE 11 month sentences in county jail oughtta do it. "

Dohbaugh wrote on Oct 14, 2007 6:18 PM:

" Excellent post, Tom. I'm afraid anything short of lynching Rose will not satisfy this mob. It's good to see that someone has the brains to see that the courts will only be allowed to mete out punishment as the laws are written, but this won't mean a thing to all our self-appointed experts who post on here. This is a concept that seems to elude the minds of many on here, especially when it comes to emotionally charged issues, such as this. Personally I hope the horses are permanently removed, but that is unlikely. You can believe that there will be those calling for Ferguson's head and or the judges when this issue is finally settled. In fact one moron has already called for the judges head, if the verdict doesn't go her way. Lady Justice is blind, isn't she? "

ItsJustDave wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:05 AM:

" An absolutely ignorant comment. No one wants to see Dr. Rose 'lynched'. They want to see him properly punished. I suppose some mentally deranged parent whose many children are found living in filth and waste, malnourished and neglected should get to adopt a few more Foster kids and get paid to 'take care' of them, too, huh? The guy deseves his day in court, but to even suggest that he has done nothing that he can be convicted for is ridiculous. "

Dohbaugh wrote on Oct 16, 2007 4:41 PM:

" Absolute ignorant comment? In case you missed the point, Dave, I was speaking metaphorically, about the lynching. Did that go right over your head, perhaps? And please enlighten me as to who has suggested that he should not be punished. Your starting to concern me, Dave. Your unrelated tangent about abused and neglected kids is confusing too. What the hell does that have to do with this case? Have you been smoking some of that funny stuff? Maybe you should consider laying off the hooch before posting. "

ItsJustDave wrote on Oct 16, 2007 7:19 PM:

" Dohbaugh wrote on Oct 16, 2007 4:41 PM: "And please enlighten me as to who has suggested that he should not be punished." Well, try these: Mr Andres' (Whose opinions I happen to respect)post implies as much - not that he shouldn't be punished, but that he very well may not be; Dohbaugh wrote on Oct 14, 2007 6:18 PM: "I'm afraid anything short of lynching Rose will not satisfy this mob." So, those calling for this sick, inhumane act to be severely punished are now a lynch mob? "Personally I hope the horses are permanently removed, but that is unlikely." That says that your opinion is that he will go unpunished, and you don't seem to be too terribly upset about it. As for my 'unrelated tangent' , multiple studies, encompassing many decades of research, indicate that those who mistreat animals are also likely to mistreat humans, as well. Sure - give the good doc his beloved horses back, as well as a cash settlement. While we're at it, let's fund a puppy daycare for Michael Vick. Oh - that's right - there ARE laws against animal abuse and neglect, and they CAN be enforced if one cares to. Imagine that. This is my last post on the subject. In fact, I think I'll take a break from any further postings, on any subject, at all. I'm too high (although I have never been a pot smoker) and drunk (even at 6:05 am) to comment further. "

Dohbaugh wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:10 PM:

" If I don't get to pitch, I'm taking my ball and going home. When did you turn into such a whiner, Dave? Suggesting that he probably won't get much of a punishment is a little different than saying he did nothing to get convicted for. Good grief, Dave. Yeah, you're probably right, maybe you should stop posting for a while. "

TigerRose wrote on Oct 17, 2007 7:11 AM:

" It may be a good idea if Dohbaugh refrain from posting, since that person feels it is necessary to try & defame & harm the reputation of another person by calling them a "moron." Re:Oct. 14 2007 6:18 PM "

Early Bird wrote on Oct 17, 2007 7:55 AM:

" It never fails to amaze me how some people want to dictate how others should react to stories in the paper. Dave's post is just another example of this. I would like to have a dollar for every time I have seen people express this idea. I have been chastised myself for refusing to criticise another poster many times, despite repeated requests, I will not bow to these types of demands. With some folks, it's not enough for them to express their views, they want to try to browbeat others to join them in their condemnations. Some folks don't seem to get they fact that just because you don't jump on their bandwagon, it doesn't mean you don't agree with their ideas, or that you agree with whomever they are upset with. Personally, I, like most people, don't like to be dictated to. The louder they get, the more stubborn I get. "

Dohbaugh wrote on Oct 17, 2007 5:49 PM:

" I'm not trying to defame you, TigerRose. You're doing a pretty good job of that yourself, by posting some of the most asinine things ever on this site, you have proven me right, time after time, and on many subjects. Perhaps moron was a little strong, would you settle for simple mindedness? "

 

 




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